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Title: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on June 06, 2020, 05:26:27 AM
PROLLY A HUGE DISAPPOINT TO ALL YOU GURAL ASS KISSERS

Total Handle

$2,882,818.00


TIME FOR THE GURAL ASS KISSERS TO CHIME IN, NOT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Pull the Pocket on June 06, 2020, 07:18:58 AM
they were doing over 3 million on Fridays pre pandemic

what went wrong?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 06, 2020, 09:22:05 AM
PROLLY A HUGE DISAPPOINT TO ALL YOU GURAL ASS KISSERS

Total Handle

$2,882,818.00


TIME FOR THE GURAL ASS KISSERS TO CHIME IN, NOT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
Genius, last year:  Total Handle: $2,503,386 on a fast track.  Last night was a deluge of rain.  Go get a job at CNN already. You have the same credibility.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Atthetrack7 on June 06, 2020, 09:27:15 AM
Genius, last year:  Total Handle: $2,503,386 on a fast track.  Last night was a deluge of rain.  Go get a job at CNN already. You have the same credibility.

WASNT RAINING IN MY LIVING ROOM, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE FOUND WAGERING ON A SCIOTO DOWNS PROGRAM BETTER THAN A MEADOWLANDS CARD.  I BLAME THAT ON NO ONE OTHER THAN GURAL
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: The Exporter on June 06, 2020, 09:30:16 AM
The harness racing market shrunk and is struggling to be relevant. This belief there will be a pent-up demand for wagering on harness racing was and is a pipe dream. In 3 months, people have changed their behavior in the how they they will spend their gambling dollars.
 It will take a strong, well targeted and funded marketing program. When was the last time you saw that? Even then, the cost will prove to be cost prohibitive.
 
 If there is a viable market for harness racing wagering, the $2,882,818 was disappointing. Let's see what happens over the next few weeks.
 
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Calhoun on June 06, 2020, 09:32:47 AM
Genius, last year:  Total Handle: $2,503,386 on a fast track.  Last night was a deluge of rain.  Go get a job at CNN already. You have the same credibility.
You should apologize before someone shows you how Mohawk did y/o/y or lists the # of tracks that ran yesterday vs a year ago.

Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on June 06, 2020, 10:26:17 AM
You should apologize before someone shows you how Mohawk did y/o/y or lists the # of tracks that ran yesterday vs a year ago.

The deluge was too much to overcome
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on June 06, 2020, 10:27:26 AM
Its going to be interesting to see what sciotos handle does in the next few weeks. Casinos open in ohio on june 21 so there will be othere places for people to blow their money
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Jctoronto on June 06, 2020, 10:41:48 AM
Everybody RELAX on bigtrack handles...wait for fullstories to play out.

CASINO NOT OPEN AT MOHAWK

NO FANS AT MOHAWK, SO NO LINEUPS TO BET WITH TELLERS, AND MOST IMPORTANT, IN THOSE LINES NO 'OTHER TRACK TVS' TO BET ON AS WELL WHEN YOURE IN LINES..

NO FANS IN TORONTO AT WOODBINE TBREDS SO NO CROSSOVER ACTION

AND OF COURSE NO OTBs LOCATIONS OPEN IN THE ONTARIO SO LOTS OF HANDLE, ESP. FROM SUPER SENIORS, IMMIGRANTS AND WELFARE FANS...THATS HANDLE TRACKS ARENT SEEING

it all adds up.....
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Harness Driver on June 06, 2020, 10:50:36 AM
 I WAS AT NORTHFIELD THE OTHER NIGHT AND MY STEED WARMED UP AWESOME, SO I WANTED TO GET A TWENTY ON HIS NOSE

THE BASTARD FUCKERS CLOSED THE BETTING WINDOW IN THE PADDOCK

THIS SHIT HAS GOT TO GET BACK TO NORMAL AND SOONER THE BETTER

IF US DRIVERS CANT BET, NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BET
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on June 06, 2020, 11:03:58 AM
A betting window in the paddock.  ngc3
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on June 06, 2020, 11:47:45 AM
I was actually shocked with 13 races I thought 4 million was obtainable. To not even get close to 3 was extremely disappointing. Maybe tonight .
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 06, 2020, 11:59:01 AM
I canít believe with 13 full fields and they didnít do 3m,,,something wrong,,,
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: GeeMoney on June 06, 2020, 12:03:15 PM
A betting window in the paddock.  ngc3

Every track I have been to has at least one self betting terminal in the paddock for drivers, trainers, grooms, judges, the food/concession worker, the judge, track employees, etc to wager.   
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 06, 2020, 12:25:52 PM
Pocono has a teller
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: dinkadoo on June 06, 2020, 01:40:26 PM
I noticed the handle on a couple of Meds races -- and thought this is not the number they had to be hoping for.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: stanetelman on June 06, 2020, 01:56:27 PM
They were satisfied with the handle because it was close to what they do on a typical Friday. Meadowlands usually handles about $200k on track so the empty grandstand had minimal impact on the handle.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: dinkadoo on June 06, 2020, 03:08:47 PM
They were satisfied with the handle because it was close to what they do on a typical Friday. Meadowlands usually handles about $200k on track so the empty grandstand had minimal impact on the handle.
but what was typical of a Friday minus 200k doesn't seem like the goal they should be striving for.

Not when Northfield and Scioto are racing on the same night and handling 2.5 million collectively or more
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: dinkadoo on June 06, 2020, 03:33:56 PM
with purses tonight at the Meds === Meds need to handle 3.76 million to cover purses at 5% return from ADW.... but does not include expenses like staff, utilites, maintenance, etc.

As Gural said --- everyday we race, we lose money --- Jeff is probably for that sports book to reopen....
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on June 06, 2020, 08:55:08 PM
but what was typical of a Friday minus 200k doesn't seem like the goal they should be striving for.

Not when Northfield and Scioto are racing on the same night and handling 2.5 million collectively or more

Did Northfield and Scioto really do 2.5 mill last night??
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: horses first on June 06, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
They are on average to handle less on a Saturday. They are lucky to get a 5% split. It all depends how much of that handle is in the state of NJ. The % is lower to out of state ADW betting. Sport bettors have turned to trading stocks with no takeout with having no trading fees.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on June 07, 2020, 12:12:16 AM
Handle didnít look good tonight thatís for sure
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on June 07, 2020, 06:23:46 AM
THE RACE TRACK BULLY, GOT HIS ASS KICKED AS THE BETTING PUBLIC CHOSE OTHER AVENUES TO WAGER THEIR GAMBLING DOLLAR

total Handle

$2,743,509.00

A FULL HALF A      BILLION   LESS THAN L GETS GOING AGAINAST YEAR

THE BULLY MAY THREATEN TO SHUT HIS TRACK DOWN ONCE SPORTS GETS BACK ON THE MENU.

  THE RTB, HAS THE WORLD TO HIS SELF RIGHT NOW, AND THE PUBLIC IS GIVING HIM A KICK SQUARELY IN THE BALLS

RACE TRACK OWNERS LIVES DONT MATTER
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Germy dDay on June 07, 2020, 07:20:22 AM
HAWTHRONE KICKED OFF THE SEASON WITH A MILLION DOLLAR HANDLE  tmbz1
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 07, 2020, 09:33:27 AM
THE RACE TRACK BULLY, GOT HIS ASS KICKED AS THE BETTING PUBLIC CHOSE OTHER AVENUES TO WAGER THEIR GAMBLING DOLLAR

total Handle

$2,743,509.00

A FULL HALF A      BILLION   LESS THAN L GETS GOING AGAINAST YEAR

THE BULLY MAY THREATEN TO SHUT HIS TRACK DOWN ONCE SPORTS GETS BACK ON THE MENU.

  THE RTB, HAS THE WORLD TO HIS SELF RIGHT NOW, AND THE PUBLIC IS GIVING HIM A KICK SQUARELY IN THE BALLS

RACE TRACK OWNERS LIVES DONT MATTER
Horatio Hornblower, you are something else.  I live in the NYC/NJ market.  The 2 main OTBs in NJ are Winners at Bayonne and Favorites at Woodbridge.  Monmouth Park also has a nice simulcast following.  All three are currently CLOSED.  The Meadowlands is currently CLOSED too for on site betting.  Once all 4 are allowed to reopen there will be a nice increase in the total handle.  Believe it or not, not everyone bets on their computers.  I for one do not and am waiting to go back to the Meadowlands once it reopens to the public.  Favorites at Woodbridge in NJ is one of the most successful OTBs in the country and it is shut down now.  Facts!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: The Exporter on June 07, 2020, 09:42:41 AM
No doubt these closed outlets and on track have hindered M1 handle. But, I thought they would still be doing more. I am happy to see the "B" tracks are putting much higer numbers. The problem is though, everyone but the track and horsemen are getting a fair benefit form the numbers.
 So, if the tracks can not realize the benefit, there is another notch in the belts of casinos.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: harnesstimes on June 07, 2020, 10:52:32 AM
Horatio Hornblower, you are something else.  I live in the NYC/NJ market.  The 2 main OTBs in NJ are Winners at Bayonne and Favorites at Woodbridge.  Monmouth Park also has a nice simulcast following.  All three are currently CLOSED.  The Meadowlands is currently CLOSED too for on site betting.  Once all 4 are allowed to reopen there will be a nice increase in the total handle.  Believe it or not, not everyone bets on their computers.  I for one do not and am waiting to go back to the Meadowlands once it reopens to the public.  Favorites at Woodbridge in NJ is one of the most successful OTBs in the country and it is shut down now.  Facts!

NO OTHER TRACK IS OPEN EITHER

GOT A KWESTION FER YA?

DO THEY HAVE INTERWEBNET IN NEW YAWK AND NEW JOISEY YET?  IF SO, HAVE ONE OF THOSE PROTESTERS, GO LOOT YOU A COMPUTER OR ONE OF THOSE NEW FANGELED PHONES THEY GOT NOW A DAYS

I SEE WHAT HE MEANS BY THE TERM GURAL ASS KISSER  ngc3
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: silent one on June 07, 2020, 11:10:50 AM
HAWTHRONE KICKED OFF THE SEASON WITH A MILLION DOLLAR HANDLE  tmbz1

   And lost money.

      Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on June 07, 2020, 12:05:12 PM
Horatio Hornblower, you are something else.  I live in the NYC/NJ market.  The 2 main OTBs in NJ are Winners at Bayonne and Favorites at Woodbridge.  Monmouth Park also has a nice simulcast following.  All three are currently CLOSED.  The Meadowlands is currently CLOSED too for on site betting.  Once all 4 are allowed to reopen there will be a nice increase in the total handle.  Believe it or not, not everyone bets on their computers.  I for one do not and am waiting to go back to the Meadowlands once it reopens to the public.  Favorites at Woodbridge in NJ is one of the most successful OTBs in the country and it is shut down now.  Facts!

The lack of otb and live attendance hasn't hurt a single other track running in the country.

Something must be up with distribution. This isn't due to a particularly large segment of metro NY who don't bet online. That is silly.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on June 07, 2020, 01:06:38 PM
What did Mohawk handle on Saturday night?? I know the carryover Jackpot was almost 500k, but Im curious how much their handle went up without the Jackpot??
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Racing Troll on June 07, 2020, 02:08:04 PM
What did Mohawk handle on Saturday night?? I know the carryover Jackpot was almost 500k, but Im curious how much their handle went up without the Jackpot??

what a lazy fucktard

look it up yourself
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on June 07, 2020, 04:16:09 PM
I do agree the 2 night handle was really disappointing. Thought 4 million a night was possible and 3 would have been an easy number . Maybe unemployment hurt ? Hell to have the Ohio tracks rival them is unfathomable .
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 07, 2020, 04:22:27 PM
Very disappointing handle at the Mecca
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on June 07, 2020, 05:20:15 PM
what a lazy fucktard

look it up yourself

Thank You, your always such a nice person!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on June 20, 2020, 02:56:47 AM
 A VERY SAD TOTAL FOR AN 18 RACE CARD

$3,481,817.00

Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on June 20, 2020, 03:04:54 AM
Today's 10-race card at Belmont Park
@TheNYRA
 generated all sources handle of $12,488,960, a 130% increase over 6/21/19 ($5,437,519).
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: cornishcommish on June 20, 2020, 06:42:33 AM

Note to M1 basher.......Exit 16W

It might have been higher, but with so many Yonkers regulars in the driving colony, bettors are still a little reluctant to fire away.

There is no harness track in North America can compete with that

This years Prix D Amerique in France...handled $ 32  million

I don't see many posts saying what a nice gesture of Jeff Gural to card 36 races  in 2 days....only Mark Ford stepped up with his comment.
 Did any of the fortunate horsepeople take the time to thank Jeff or Jason or the race office for this gesture ??

I would like to hear about it
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Uncle Harry on June 20, 2020, 07:03:52 AM
 WHORSEMEN DONT THANK ANYONE... THAT WORD IS NOT IN THEIR VOCABULARY

WHORSEMEN THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED AND TRACK OWNERS SHOULD KISS THEIR ASS

36 RACES, ARE 36 TOO MANY.  I WILL CHEER WHEN HE SHUTS THE DOOR ON HARNESS RACING AND TELL YOU WELFARE FRAUDS TO GET A REAL JOB
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Iceman on June 20, 2020, 07:16:17 AM
Pocono has a teller
Orangeville had at one time 3 tellers and then went down to two. The one window in the corner would be slow to shut down and sometimes you could still get bets in as they went into the first turn.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on June 20, 2020, 07:19:18 AM
Hopefully they crack the 4 million tonight . The card at pocono this afternoon hopefully gets some attention as well .
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Pull the Pocket on June 20, 2020, 07:34:56 AM
 THAT MEADOWLANDS TRACK OWNER HAS TO BE PISSED HE ISNT GETTING ANY OF THAT HUGE BELMONT HANDLE TODAY

FUCK HIM AND THE COW HIS MOM RODE IN ON
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Lockedinwithpace on June 20, 2020, 08:02:06 AM
Too Many total throwouts at the lands and it affects handle big time.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: dinkadoo on June 20, 2020, 09:17:51 AM
Granted some of the money for the sires stakes is supported by other sources, but with their handle and taking 5% and not adding in any costs to run the track (personnel, utilities, insurance, etc) Meadowlands started probably losing money after the 10th or 11th race.

This isn't a knock against the Meds as every track is losing money everytime the starting gate pulls onto the track.

I bring it up as I followed a facebook thread last week that had people congratulating Tioga downs on a record handle. I think they had 15 races....  Using simple but not perfect math of 5% ( no way tioga gets 5% for their signal ) they would have ran out of money after the fourth race.

The industry wants to pat themselves on the back, but wait for it, wait for it, when the time comes and the decoupling of slots occurs in the first state ( Probably Florida ) then other will follow and then what.... We will hear about how they are taking OUR money. And still after decades, the industry has no plan to change and survive.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on June 20, 2020, 10:07:21 AM
A VERY SAD TOTAL FOR AN 18 RACE CARD

$3,481,817.00

Wow You are obsessed, do you set your alarm for 3am to check the meadowlands Handle????

They averaged almost 200k per race, I would have guessed they would do 3.6,3.7mil but they didnt, it is what it is.

Comparing Thoroughbreds to Harness? They are not the same thing, they never were, but you know that!   

One thing they did last night was really cut back on the post time drag, some people will like that, but that probably cost them some handle.

I'll agree with cornishcommish. "There is no harness track in North America can compete with that"
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 20, 2020, 10:14:00 AM
A VERY SAD TOTAL FOR AN 18 RACE CARD

$3,481,817.00
Last year total Handle: $2,392,922------what is sad is your cherry picking weekly items to suit your warped narrative.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: harnesstimes on June 20, 2020, 10:23:06 AM
Last year total Handle: $2,392,922------what is sad is your cherry picking weekly items to suit your warped narrative.

I SEE THE GURAL ASS KISSERS ARE LINING UP, DID THEY RACE 18 RACES LAST YEAR?

DONT THINK SO

HAVE A NICE DAY

AND GO FUCK YOURSELF  tmbz1
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on June 20, 2020, 10:54:01 AM
I SEE THE GURAL ASS KISSERS ARE LINING UP, DID THEY RACE 18 RACES LAST YEAR?

DONT THINK SO

HAVE A NICE DAY

AND GO FUCK YOURSELF  tmbz1

I already know the response, but I'll ask the question anyway. Why do you always need to come with the vitriol/name calling to try any make a point?


No it was for 13 races  for an average of 184k per race last year.

Last nights average for 18 races was 193k.

It is what it is, no matter the bashing/hatred its still the top North American Standardbred track
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Racing Troll on June 20, 2020, 10:55:51 AM
AND BEING THE BEST PILE OF SHIT GOING, STILL MEANS YOU ARE A PILE OF SHIT.  GO POST SOME MORE LOSERS FUCKTARD
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 20, 2020, 10:59:02 AM
I SEE THE GURAL ASS KISSERS ARE LINING UP, DID THEY RACE 18 RACES LAST YEAR?

DONT THINK SO

HAVE A NICE DAY

AND GO FUCK YOURSELF  tmbz1
You are low class.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on June 20, 2020, 11:04:25 AM
AND BEING THE BEST PILE OF SHIT GOING, STILL MEANS YOU ARE A PILE OF SHIT.  GO POST SOME MORE LOSERS FUCKTARD

As usual you make no sense?

Also how many accounts do you have.

Thanks again for your thoughtful posts.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on June 20, 2020, 11:13:15 AM
Note to M1 basher.......Exit 16W

It might have been higher, but with so many Yonkers regulars in the driving colony, bettors are still a little reluctant to fire away.

There is no harness track in North America can compete with that

This years Prix D Amerique in France...handled $ 32  million

I don't see many posts saying what a nice gesture of Jeff Gural to card 36 races  in 2 days....only Mark Ford stepped up with his comment.
 Did any of the fortunate horsepeople take the time to thank Jeff or Jason or the race office for this gesture ??

I would like to hear about it

Bartlett/stratton/Macdonald are now hamstringing handle.

I've now heard it all
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 20, 2020, 11:32:12 PM
Around $4 million handle possible tonight.   tmbz1
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 20, 2020, 11:38:14 PM
Handle WILL top $4 million tonight.  tmbz1
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Fatboy on June 20, 2020, 11:44:47 PM
IS THIS THE GUY THEY CALL GURAL ASSKISSER??.....SOMEBODY CHANGED HIS NAME IN A QUOTE AND MY CHAIR BROKE!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 21, 2020, 12:32:42 AM
Total Handle tonight was a huge $4,100,385.00 which was $228,000 per race!  Way to go.  tmbz1
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on June 21, 2020, 12:55:36 AM
Yeah ! I said it had the makings of a 4 million night . Gural didnít lose any of his money tonight .
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Racing Troll on June 21, 2020, 01:17:42 AM
Total Handle tonight was a huge $4,100,385.00 which was $228,000 per race!  Way to go.  tmbz1

YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT?

2020 Belmont Stakes Day generates $67,753,336 in all-sources handle

NOT EVEN A DROP IN THE BUCKET.  MUST BE TRYING TO PROTECT HIS FRONT SPOT IN THE LINE TO BE ASS KISSER OF THE WEEK
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 21, 2020, 10:49:47 AM
Go watch thoroughbreds if you prefer.  This is a HARNESS racing forum.  Harness racing never was on par betting wise with thoroughbreds so that statement of your's is IRRELEVANT.  In terms of HARNESS racing, the Meadowlands was, is, and will always be, the number one betting venue!  Exit 16W must be out of town tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 27, 2020, 11:49:26 AM
Total Handle 13 races   was $2,837,177.00 tmbz1--------last year with 14 races was $2,319,064--------over half a million more this year with 1 fewer race.-------where is Exit 16W again?  He must be AWOL when the facts do not line up with his bias.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on June 28, 2020, 01:53:24 PM
Saturday night with 14 races 1 year ago the handle was $2,599,179.  This Saturday with only 13 races the handle was $2,863,730. 
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: help on June 28, 2020, 02:22:18 PM
Great news! Thanks for keeping things going Mr. Gural!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 28, 2020, 02:36:12 PM
Total Handle 13 races   was $2,837,177.00 tmbz1--------last year with 14 races was $2,319,064--------over half a million more this year with 1 fewer race.-------where is Exit 16W again?  He must be AWOL when the facts do not line up with his bias.
Exactly right...16W awol
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: dinkadoo on June 28, 2020, 02:41:20 PM
Saturday night with 14 races 1 year ago the handle was $2,599,179.  This Saturday with only 13 races the handle was $2,863,730.
bad thing - Meadowlands still  lost money --- is the sportsbook (albeit not much happening) open ?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Fatboy on June 28, 2020, 03:06:23 PM
bad thing - Meadowlands still  lost money --- is the sportsbook (albeit not much happening) open ?

  Taking bets on how many PGA players have covid....over/under is currently 5
it's at 5 now!!!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: slivercharm on June 28, 2020, 05:20:17 PM
Who gives a fuck that track sucks totally un bet able

Fake handle as well
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: help on June 28, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
You obviously care enough to comment.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: slivercharm on June 28, 2020, 09:23:37 PM
You obviously care enough to comment.
.

Thanks for hanging onto my every post  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: help on June 28, 2020, 09:28:26 PM
Are you sure about that? Who's stalking who?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: slivercharm on June 28, 2020, 09:31:07 PM
Are you sure about that? Who's stalking who?

Big M sucks fake handle  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 04, 2020, 06:31:13 AM
 THE STREAK HAS ENDED, WHAT A SHAME

2020  $2,451,141
2019  $2,611,912

START A NEW STREAK TONIGHT  tmbz1
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: chester on July 04, 2020, 07:19:16 AM
sportsbook is open at meadowlands
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 04, 2020, 12:00:37 PM
THE STREAK HAS ENDED, WHAT A SHAME

2020  $2,451,141
2019  $2,611,912

START A NEW STREAK TONIGHT  tmbz1
14 races last year pal and the lightning pushed back the racing.  You were missing the last 2 weekends. I wonder why? Enjoy your vacation from reality?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 04, 2020, 12:03:44 PM
I WAS WONDERING IF THE GURAL ASS KISSERS WERE GOING TI OFFER EXCUSES FOR THEIR FAILURE
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 04, 2020, 12:05:39 PM
Handle with 13 races should be different than one with 14 races. Correct? Facts. Ask 16W why he was AWOL the past 2 weekends, or would that answer conflict with your ideas?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on July 04, 2020, 02:51:05 PM
I WAS WONDERING IF THE GURAL ASS KISSERS WERE GOING TI OFFER EXCUSES FOR THEIR FAILURE

And we were wondering how your Tshirt business was going?????????   ;D
Go back to sanitizing the subway.  Thanks.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on July 04, 2020, 02:56:09 PM
THE STREAK HAS ENDED, WHAT A SHAME

2020  $2,451,141
2019  $2,611,912

START A NEW STREAK TONIGHT  tmbz1

16W... .what's the number to beat tonight???   I will handle my wagers accordingly.  Thanks. ;D
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on July 04, 2020, 03:39:47 PM
14 races last year pal and the lightning pushed back the racing.  You were missing the last 2 weekends. I wonder why? Enjoy your vacation from reality?

Yes as I stated last night the almost 1 hour racing delay caused much shorter times between races.

A lot of people complain about post drag.... and I somewhat agree, but when you only have 10 or 12 minutes between races it will definitely effect the handle

If anyone was wondering....... Gov Murphy has a law because of Covid-19 thus N.J. has a Midnight curfew/deadline.

No ass kissing or silly hatred...... Just the FACTS.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on July 05, 2020, 12:07:30 AM
Lets see if Exit 16W gets up at 3am to post the Big M's Saturday Night Handle??? My guess is NO!!!

My rough number is 3 million.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 05, 2020, 12:35:46 AM
$3,027,796 tonight! Last year was $2,654,992.  Facts----just the facts.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4LPkmGO5Cc
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Racing Troll on July 05, 2020, 01:50:02 AM
ONLY ONE NUMBER IS IMPORTANT

HOW MANY PEOPLE CAUGHT THE CORONA VIRUS FROM RACE TRACK DEGENERATES AND HORSEFUCKS?

WONDER IF THE SPORTS EYE WILL HAVE THAT NUMBER LISTED?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: wise owl on July 05, 2020, 04:21:17 AM
Stop crying be glad there racings.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: harnesstimes on July 05, 2020, 08:00:38 AM
WITH YONKER CLOSED, POCO ONO RACING IN THE DAYTIME, SAME FOR SCIOTO, AND RUNNING ASSHOLES OFF.  A HANDLE OF ONLY 3 MILL IS PISS POOR AT BEST. 

LAUGH WHEN DEGENERATE DEAD MONEY GAMBLERS POST A HANDLE OF !!!!! 3 MILLION!!!!! LIKE IT JUSTIFIES THEM LOSING THEIR RENT MONEY OR GRANDMA'S PRESCRIPTION MONEY. LIKE THEIR MIND BETS ARE ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN ANY TOTAL.

I BET MONMOUT DID OVER 5 MILLION AND BELMONT DID OVER 10 MILLION. SO BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR TINY 3 DOESNT IMPRESS NO ONE
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 05, 2020, 10:56:22 AM
WITH YONKER CLOSED, POCO ONO RACING IN THE DAYTIME, SAME FOR SCIOTO, AND RUNNING ASSHOLES OFF.  A HANDLE OF ONLY 3 MILL IS PISS POOR AT BEST. 

LAUGH WHEN DEGENERATE DEAD MONEY GAMBLERS POST A HANDLE OF !!!!! 3 MILLION!!!!! LIKE IT JUSTIFIES THEM LOSING THEIR RENT MONEY OR GRANDMA'S PRESCRIPTION MONEY. LIKE THEIR MIND BETS ARE ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN ANY TOTAL.

I BET MONMOUT DID OVER 5 MILLION AND BELMONT DID OVER 10 MILLION. SO BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR TINY 3 DOESNT IMPRESS NO ONE
Why are you on a harness racing forum since you hate positive news about it? Why not go on thoroughbred sites and squawk about their racing? All of the posters here that HATE harness racing, and harness racing bettors, do NOT belong here to purge their cathartic negativity of a sport they claim to embrace.  Be happy elsewhere, which is where all of you belong. Exit 16W is AWOL again!  What a surprise......NOT!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: (*_*) on July 05, 2020, 11:18:16 AM
Why are you on a harness racing forum since you hate positive news about it? Why not go on thoroughbred sites and squawk about their racing? All of the posters here that HATE harness racing, and harness racing bettors, do NOT belong here to purge their cathartic negativity of a sport they claim to embrace.  Be happy elsewhere, which is where all of you belong. Exit 16W is AWOL again!  What a surprise......NOT!

SO THIS SITE IS ONLY FOR ASS KISSERS, AND IN YOUR CASE, GURAL COCK SUCKERS?  WONDER WHY THIS INDUSTRY IS STUCK IN 1975? ONLY INDUSTRY ASS KISSERS INVOLVED IN RUNNING IT, AND IF IT WORKED IN 1975 IT HAS TO WORK TODAY

HOW DARE THEY ALLOW THOSE CASINOS TO COME IN AND TAKE OUR CUSTOMERS AWAY?

WONDER HOW MANY TIMES I HEARD THAT
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 11, 2020, 05:11:23 AM
 FOR THE UMPTEENTH WEEK IN A ROW. THE METOOLANDS HANDLED OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS

2020...$2,373,660

2019... $2,730,881

WHEN YOU GURAL ASS KISSERS LINE UP... MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A MASK AND FOLLOW SOCIAL DISTANCING GUIDLINES OF MAKING YOUR POSTS AT LEAST 6 FEET APART  tmbz1

THANK YOU, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE OF SERVICE

AND ALWAYS

(https://i.imgur.com/xHxxDsg.jpg)

BUT WHERE IN LINE BEHIND  O0 LIVES MATTER?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 11, 2020, 10:29:53 AM
16W, you truly are Baron Of Gray Matter.  How many races did they run last year? 14 is the answer.  They ran 13 last night.  Did you happen to see the weather conditions on a -2 variant night on a sloppy track vs. last year's fast track? Tonight they won't do $4 million like they did last year and why? It is because last year it was Pace night. Tonight is NOT Pace night.  Return to you hibernation mode as your axons and dendrites take a rest from over use last night.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Fatboy on July 11, 2020, 11:01:36 AM
16W, you truly are Baron Of Gray Matter.  How many races did they run last year? 14 is the answer.  They ran 13 last night.  Did you happen to see the weather conditions on a -2 variant night on a sloppy track vs. last year's fast track? Tonight they won't do $4 million like they did last year and why? It is because last year it was Pace night. Tonight is NOT Pace night.  Return to you hibernation mode as your axons and dendrites take a rest from over use last night.

DENDRITES.....

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 11, 2020, 11:18:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/UxorbW8.jpg)
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Fatboy on July 11, 2020, 12:04:14 PM


 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

METOOLANDS
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 12, 2020, 12:39:41 AM
Total handle was a nice $3,440,248.00.  tmbz1  Last year they did $4 million but is was Pace night.  In fact, last year, the same stakes card as tonight was run July 6th, a week earlier, and the 11 race handle was $2,654,992.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 12, 2020, 12:50:51 AM
Total handle was a nice $3,440,248.00.  tmbz1  Last year they did $4 million but is was Pace night.  In fact, last year, the same stakes card as tonight was run July 6th, a week earlier, and the 11 race handle was $2,654,992.

Do you realize that there is a current pandemic and all tracks are doing better than last year?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 12, 2020, 03:49:21 AM
Do you realize that there is a current pandemic and all tracks are doing better than last year?

ALL TRACKS EXCEPT ONE
2020....$3,440,248
2019 Ö$4,044,303

HUGE DROP OFF, ONLY 8 DATES LEFT IN CURRENT MEAT
THANK GOD      62za.clp
WATCH AS THE #ASSKISSINGARMY TRIES TO JUSTIFY THEIR DEGENERATE BEHAVIOR BY MAKING EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE

WITH COVID 19 EXPLODING ONE NEVER KNOWS IF THERE WILL BE A NEXT WEEK, AS WE KNOW GOVERNOR SMURPH NEEDS TO RECLAIM HIS SPOT IN THE POLITCAL HEIRARCHY AND SHUT THE WHOLE STATE DOWN, TO THE ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE FROM MEDIA SOURCES

STAY SAFE MY FRIENDS, STAY HOME
AND WASH YOUR LAUNDRY AS WELL AS YOUR HANDS
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 12, 2020, 10:25:56 AM
Is there something wrong with your thought process? Do you read other posts or just spew your negative spin? Huge drop off? It was Pace night last year the same weekend with MANY stakes race finals!  This year the date was moved back 1 week.  Next week will be Pace night and it will dwarf last year's $2,413,614 handle the same night so what will you say next week, or will you return to vegetative cerebral hibernation?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 12, 2020, 10:32:53 AM
Do you realize that there is a current pandemic and all tracks are doing better than last year?
Do you realize last year it was Pace night vs. this year? Next week the handle will be around $4 million vs. last year's $2,413,614 the same night.  Next week will top last year's handle by around $1.5 million so what will you say then? Look at the FACTS.  Compare the races that were run. THEN decide. 16W will disappear next Saturday night! Bank on it!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on July 12, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
As long as the handle is above 3 million in these times itís a great number . Half of our patrons still are unemployed and have no money to gamble . Our numbers have fallen every year and undoubtedly in 5 years anything over 2 million will be a great number . Just be happy we still have some entertainment.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 12, 2020, 12:26:36 PM
Do you realize last year it was Pace night vs. this year? Next week the handle will be around $4 million vs. last year's $2,413,614 the same night.  Next week will top last year's handle by around $1.5 million so what will you say then? Look at the FACTS.  Compare the races that were run. THEN decide. 16W will disappear next Saturday night! Bank on it!

I would answer your questions if you answered mine.

Do you realize that because of the pandemic that handles are generally up across the board in both breeds?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 18, 2020, 12:34:27 AM
Total handle tonight was $2,883,777.00 with 13 races vs. $2,351,078 with 14 races last year. Tomorrow will be a whopper of a difference! 16W, wherefore art thou?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 18, 2020, 06:18:49 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LZIjiRV.jpg)

 TODAYS NUMPERS WILL INCLUDE A NUMBER OF HAMBURGERS DAVE LITTLE ATE WHILE PREPPING FOR HIS MATCH AGAINST JOEY CHETWOOD  IN THE DOGS VS BURGERS EATING CONTEST ON CORN NIGHT AT THE MEDS.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Heavy Hitter on July 18, 2020, 06:50:43 AM
RUSSIAN HACKERS INFILTRATED AND SUBSTITUTED CORONA VIRUS NUMBERS INSTEAD OF HANDLE NUMBERS
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Fatboy on July 18, 2020, 11:05:56 AM
RUSSIAN HACKERS INFILTRATED AND SUBSTITUTED CORONA VIRUS NUMBERS INSTEAD OF HANDLE NUMBERS

 73cv.2
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Fatboy on July 18, 2020, 11:06:18 AM
TODAYS NUMPERS WILL INCLUDE A NUMBER OF HAMBURGERS DAVE LITTLE ATE WHILE PREPPING FOR HIS MATCH AGAINST JOEY CHETWOOD  IN THE DOGS VS BURGERS EATING CONTEST ON CORN NIGHT AT THE MEDS.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 19, 2020, 12:43:43 AM
To all of the doubters here, the proof is in the results. Total handle--------$5,051,261.00!----------last year, the same night, the handles was only $2,413,614.  Tonight's Pace night was also OVER $1 million MORE in handle than last year's Pace night, which was run a week earlier.  16W can now retire from his negative postings as it is apparent the Meadowlands was, is, an always will be, the KING of harness racing handles in North America!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 19, 2020, 12:47:47 AM
To all of the doubters here, the proof is in the results. Total handle--------   $5,051,261.00!----------last year, the same night, the handles was only

In the scope of things, that number is not good
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 19, 2020, 03:35:45 AM
In the scope of things, that number is not good

ANTIFA, AND VARIOUS MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS LAUNDERED HALF THE TOTAL HANDLE. OPENING DAY, THURSDAY @ SARATOGO T BRED HANDLED 19.1 MILLION.

To all of the doubters here, the proof is in the results. Total handle--------$5,051,261.00!----------last year, the same night, the handles was only $2,413,614. 

LETS HEAR JEWFRY THANK US AND SAY HE NO LONGER NEEDS MY TAX DOLLARS TO FUND HIS OPERATION. PUT THAT SPORT BOOK TO USE FUNDING THE RACING SIDE OF THE EQUATION

JEWFRY WILL PROBABLY SAY HE DESERVES MORE THANK YOUS FOR SAVIORING THE SPORT PERIOD

Adjusted for inflation, $1,000,000.00 in 1980 is equal to $3,350,378.10 in 2020. Annual inflation over this period was 3.07%. SO MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 5 AND GET THE REAL ELCHOPPO GURAL GURAL HANDLE REPORT
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 19, 2020, 10:46:16 AM
SAT SARATOGO T BRED HANDLE

Mutuel Pool: $21,622,227.00

 11.wp
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 19, 2020, 10:57:44 AM
ANTIFA, AND VARIOUS MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS LAUNDERED HALF THE TOTAL HANDLE. OPENING DAY, THURSDAY @ SARATOGO T BRED HANDLED 19.1 MILLION.

LETS HEAR JEWFRY THANK US AND SAY HE NO LONGER NEEDS MY TAX DOLLARS TO FUND HIS OPERATION. PUT THAT SPORT BOOK TO USE FUNDING THE RACING SIDE OF THE EQUATION

JEWFRY WILL PROBABLY SAY HE DESERVES MORE THANK YOUS FOR SAVIORING THE SPORT PERIOD

Adjusted for inflation, $1,000,000.00 in 1980 is equal to $3,350,378.10 in 2020. Annual inflation over this period was 3.07%. SO MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 5 AND GET THE REAL ELCHOPPO GURAL GURAL HANDLE REPORT
Inflation adjustments now from 1980? You move the handle goal posts to fit your false assumptions.  You always compare LAST year to THIS year.  This was highest Pace night handle since 2008! FACT, and it destroyed LAST year's by a HUGE amount, as you always compare it to.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ HORSEMAN on July 19, 2020, 01:58:16 PM
 5 MILLION ? LA DE FUCKING DA, WE USED TO DO THAT ON A NORMAL FRYDAY AND SATURDAY.  THE ONLY THING GOOD ABOUT BIG HANDLES IS THAT WE, THE HORSEMEN, YOU KNOW US, WE ARE THE STARS OF THE SHOW.  WE COULD COVER OUR BETS AND TEACH THOSE CRY FUKN BABY DEGENERATES JUST WHO WAS BOSS, AND WE WERE.  WE HAD FORMER HORSEMEN IN EVERY POSITION AT A TRACK. FROM SECRETARY TO PADDOCK JUDGE TO THE GUY WHO DROVE THE DRAG... WE GOT WHAT WE WANTED, YOU WANTED SOMETHING, YOU PAID FOR IT. SLIP EVERYONE A BUCK OR TWO AND PRESTO, IT APPEARED.  GAMBLERS AND THEIR CRYING WILL NEVER STOP.. THEY ARE LOSERS PERIOD. IF IT AINT ONE THING IT WILL BE ANOTHER.  TREAT EM LIKE MUSHROOMS WAS AND IS STILL THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THE BETTING PUBIC
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 24, 2020, 02:09:45 PM
 HOW LOW WILL THIS WEEKS HANDLE PLUMMET, WILL THE GURAL ASS KISSERS UNION BE ABLE TO COME EVEN CLOSE TO LAST WEEKS PHONY NUMBER?  I SAY NO. 

ANYTHING LESS THAN 7 MILLION IS A COMPLETE FAILURE AS LAST WEEKS IMEPETUS WILL HAVE BEEN WASTED.  NOW I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING THEIR EXCUSES FOR A WEEK NOW... CHEAP CARD.... LATE IN THE MONTH... SPORTS BETTING HAS BASEBALL TO TAKE FROM RACING... DID THEY ENTICE ANYONE TO BET THIS WEEK OR WAS IT A ONE AND DONE?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on July 24, 2020, 03:43:37 PM
HOW LOW WILL THIS WEEKS HANDLE PLUMMET, WILL THE GURAL ASS KISSERS UNION BE ABLE TO COME EVEN CLOSE TO LAST WEEKS PHONY NUMBER?  I SAY NO. 

ANYTHING LESS THAN 7 MILLION IS A COMPLETE FAILURE AS LAST WEEKS IMEPETUS WILL HAVE BEEN WASTED.  NOW I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING THEIR EXCUSES FOR A WEEK NOW... CHEAP CARD.... LATE IN THE MONTH... SPORTS BETTING HAS BASEBALL TO TAKE FROM RACING... DID THEY ENTICE ANYONE TO BET THIS WEEK OR WAS IT A ONE AND DONE?

You sound like a 12 year old girl always CRYING Gural this.... & Gural that...... Waaaaa Waaaa

What a Meadowlands stalker you are...... What did Gural do to you steal your lollypop and kick your dog??????

Seek professional help!!!!!!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on July 24, 2020, 04:27:43 PM
This is an unhealthy obsession......to have the Post Pandemic
Handle at the Meadowlands, on your mind before Friday???????   ;D

Nothing else to do???, but anticipate Friday and Saturday handle is absolutely insane.  ;D

FYI, I dont kiss anybody's ass.
 11.wp  11.wp  11.wp  11.wp  11.wp
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 25, 2020, 12:38:00 AM
Total handle was $2,759,620.00 with 13 races.  Last year with 14 races the handle was 2,480,291.  16W's skull is full of obsession. Where does he come up with $7 million this weekend?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on July 25, 2020, 12:53:28 AM
Thatís a good number. The huge handle days are long gone for harness racing. Have to be happy we still do this much .
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 25, 2020, 03:42:45 PM
Total handle was $2,759,620.00 with 13 races.  Last year with 14 races the handle was 2,480,291.  16W's skull is full of obsession. Where does he come up with $7 million this weekend?

And there was more wagered on the Yankees game Thursday than the world series last year. Imagine comparing the wagering on  Yankees opener 2020 vs 2019. Incredible disparity.

Perspective. The meadiwlands doing only 300k more than last year is a total failure in this environment 
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 25, 2020, 04:40:53 PM
14 races last year-------14-------add on another $200,000 or so with an additional race-------they ran 1 less race last night. 
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on July 26, 2020, 06:10:25 AM
DOWN OVER 2 MILLION FROM LAST WEEK, WHERE DID IT GO?  ARE THE MIND BETTORS LIKE SAW BROKE,AFTER ALL IT IS LATE IN THE MONTH AND THEIR NEXT CHEQUE IS OVER A WEAK AWAY. DID THE CARTEL GIVE A FEW MEMBERS THE WEEK OFF TO GO RIOT IN SEATTLE AND PORTLAND?

DOES ALL THE PICKS FROM THE ON AIR TALENT, ACTUALLY GO INTO THE BETTING POOLS OR ARE THEY THE #MINDBETTINGARMY

INQUIRING MINDS NEED TO KNOW

#MINDBETTINGARMY, DAMN FUNNY STUFF RIGHT THERE, EVEN MADE MYSELF CHUCKLE

OH WELL . TIME TO GET READY FOR BIBLE SCHOOL  BE BACK LATER WITH MORE OPSERVATIONS


#GURALASSKISSERS, SPIN THE FACTS, JOE FRIDAY WOULD BE ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 26, 2020, 10:02:52 AM
DOWN OVER 2 MILLION FROM LAST WEEK, WHERE DID IT GO?  ARE THE MIND BETTORS LIKE SAW BROKE,AFTER ALL IT IS LATE IN THE MONTH AND THEIR NEXT CHEQUE IS OVER A WEAK AWAY. DID THE CARTEL GIVE A FEW MEMBERS THE WEEK OFF TO GO RIOT IN SEATTLE AND PORTLAND?

DOES ALL THE PICKS FROM THE ON AIR TALENT, ACTUALLY GO INTO THE BETTING POOLS OR ARE THEY THE #MINDBETTINGARMY

INQUIRING MINDS NEED TO KNOW

#MINDBETTINGARMY, DAMN FUNNY STUFF RIGHT THERE, EVEN MADE MYSELF CHUCKLE

OH WELL . TIME TO GET READY FOR BIBLE SCHOOL  BE BACK LATER WITH MORE OPSERVATIONS


#GURALASSKISSERS, SPIN THE FACTS, JOE FRIDAY WOULD BE ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE
16W lives in an alternate reality.  When did a followup weekend to a major stakes weekend not drop off? Does Churchill downs do the same handle the weekend after the Kentucky Derby? Last night did $100,000 MORE than last year did.  In addition, you seem to forget that this year there is basically ZERO on track handle due to the virus.  The PACE night usually gets around 10,000 people and I always go so I can tell you that personally.  At a low $50.00 per person per night betting, that took away around Half a million in handle for the PACE night last week.  In addition, the Hambletonian usually gets 15,000-20,000 people on track, which would add and additional $750,000-$1 million in handle that day, which will not be available in 2 weeks due to the limited patrons allowed.  People who come out for the Pace and the Hambletonian are not regular bettors and the virus has caused a reduction in their participation in the betting this year.  You need help, to be so obsessed with Gural in this manner.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on July 26, 2020, 11:28:22 AM
What was last nights handle ?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 26, 2020, 11:33:35 AM
16W lives in an alternate reality.  When did a followup weekend to a major stakes weekend not drop off? Does Churchill downs do the same handle the weekend after the Kentucky Derby? Last night did $100,000 MORE than last year did.  In addition, you seem to forget that this year there is basically ZERO on track handle due to the virus.  The PACE night usually gets around 10,000 people and I always go so I can tell you that personally.  At a low $50.00 per person per night betting, that took away around Half a million in handle for the PACE night last week.  In addition, the Hambletonian usually gets 15,000-20,000 people on track, which would add and additional $750,000-$1 million in handle that day, which will not be available in 2 weeks due to the limited patrons allowed.  People who come out for the Pace and the Hambletonian are not regular bettors and the virus has caused a reduction in their participation in the betting this year.  You need help, to be so obsessed with Gural in this manner.

DONT FORGET TO STAY AT LEAST 6 FEET BEHIND THE OTHER #GURALASSKISSERS WHEN STANDING IN LINE TO PLANT ONE ON YOUR SAVIORS BUTT CHEEKS
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: slivercharm on July 26, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
Most of the handle is done by algorithms and doesnít even help the handle why r u fools beating ur chest over it

If u r a business owner would u rather sell 100 widgets at cost or 10 for a 50% profit?

U harness folk arenít to bright
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on July 26, 2020, 11:55:31 AM
What was last nights handle ?
$2,767,603.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on July 26, 2020, 12:40:01 PM
Thatís a normal number . Whatís all the fuss . You can write down each tracks Handles and get close without even trying . Pocono probably did 300 The Meadows 450 Tioga 150
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on July 26, 2020, 02:43:18 PM
DONT FORGET TO STAY AT LEAST 6 FEET BEHIND THE OTHER #GURALASSKISSERS WHEN STANDING IN LINE TO PLANT ONE ON YOUR SAVIORS BUTT CHEEKS

Huh???
Ridiculous  post.

Go back to selling T shirts.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 01, 2020, 12:58:29 AM
Total handle was a hefty $3,065,942.00 tonight vs. $2,294,097 last year.  tmbz1 That is a 30% increase which should show the doubters the facts. Last year the Hambo was on the Saturday program so do not expect the Saturday handle to top last year's different card.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 01, 2020, 09:18:15 AM
Total handle was a hefty $3,065,942.00 tonight vs. $2,294,097 last year.  tmbz1 That is a 30% increase which should show the doubters the facts. Last year the Hambo was on the Saturday program so do not expect the Saturday handle to top last year's different card.

You continuously ignore another fact: across the industry handle is up over 20% from last year. This is due to COVID eliminating gambling and entertainment competition.

To do 30% better than this date last year with having 2 large carryovers on the card is a failure.

Much like you, they will spin it as a success. But then they will also beg the state for the tax payer money to continue because they are a failure.

Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 01, 2020, 09:29:29 AM
You continuously ignore another fact: across the industry handle is up over 20% from last year. This is due to COVID eliminating gambling and entertainment competition.

To do 30% better than this date last year with having 2 large carryovers on the card is a failure.

Much like you, they will spin it as a success. But then they will also beg the state for the tax payer money to continue because they are a failure.


Last year there were carryover nights that did more than this year on random dates too.  Bottom line is little tracks increasing their handles by 20% from $300,000 to $360,000 is nice, but it does not compare to the volume of betting the Meadowlands does as this constant bashing of the best betting track in North American harness racing is ludicrous at this point. You hate the top grossing track, go ahead. It makes NO sense.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 01, 2020, 09:55:02 AM
Last year there were carryover nights that did more than this year on random dates too.  Bottom line is little tracks increasing their handles by 20% from $300,000 to $360,000 is nice, but it does not compare to the volume of betting the Meadowlands does as this constant bashing of the best betting track in North American harness racing is ludicrous at this point. You hate the top grossing track, go ahead. It makes NO sense.

What I do not like is the propaganda that their revenue makes them a success.

Do you pay taxes in NJ? If you do, part of that revenue is filtered to the meadowlands simply because their racing operation is a money losing failure. You really can't make sense as to why people have a problem with the gloating about handle?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: slivercharm on August 01, 2020, 10:08:43 AM
Last year there were carryover nights that did more than this year on random dates too.  Bottom line is little tracks increasing their handles by 20% from $300,000 to $360,000 is nice, but it does not compare to the volume of betting the Meadowlands does as this constant bashing of the best betting track in North American harness racing is ludicrous at this point. You hate the top grossing track, go ahead. It makes NO sense.

Where I come from gross means shit net is what matters

So again tell me how high handle correlates to anything when the majority is made by computer algorithms which doesn't help purses and is given signal free so no $ to The track either
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on August 01, 2020, 10:18:29 AM
Where I come from gross means shit net is what matters

So again tell me how high handle correlates to anything when the majority is made by computer algorithms which doesn't help purses and is given signal free so no $ to The track either
AND BING FUCKN O.... WE HAVE A WINNER

I REALLY DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE HANDLE NUMBER, IT IS THE CONSTANT BRAGADOSIH ATTEMPT TO KISS THEMSELVES ON THEIR RESPECTIVE ASSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN NONE OF IT, I GIVE THE 5 MIL PACE NIGHT AN *, MEANS ANYTHING,, YET SOMETIMES THEY LEAD THE ARTICLE WITH IT!! NO CLASS AT ALL, HOPE HE SELLS THE TRACKS AND DISAPPEARS
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: NJ The best on August 01, 2020, 10:32:57 AM
The meet is coming to an end . Fire in the last few days.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: The Exporter on August 01, 2020, 10:35:54 AM
AND BING FUCKN O.... WE HAVE A WINNER

I REALLY DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE HANDLE NUMBER, IT IS THE CONSTANT BRAGADOSIH ATTEMPT TO KISS THEMSELVES ON THEIR RESPECTIVE ASSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN NONE OF IT, I GIVE THE 5 MIL PACE NIGHT AN *, MEANS ANYTHING,, YET SOMETIMES THEY LEAD THE ARTICLE WITH IT!! NO CLASS AT ALL, HOPE HE SELLS THE TRACKS AND DISAPPEARS
If "none of it means anything", why the multi year obsession?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 01, 2020, 10:54:22 AM
If "none of it means anything", why the multi year obsession?
Correct! 16W OBSESSES when the handle is lower than last year on a rare night---BUT, when the handle greatly exceeds what his hopes and dreams are for it to fail, he CHANGES the narrative, just as the liberal politicians do. For 16W to SUDDENLY have an epiphany and claim that he does NOT care about the handle number is a joke! That is all he ever cared about! Remember, tonight is NOT the Hambletonian, which it was last year, so do NOT attempt any comparison to the handles.  NEXT week is the Hambleonian and they did $6.5 million that DAY.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 01, 2020, 02:07:03 PM
one of the biggest mistakes they are making is not allowing any rebates whatsoever to NJ residents via tvg( the only adw they will allow).

The first step to making this a better situation instead of bitching to the governor about their failures is to allow adw rebates to people in the state.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 02, 2020, 12:38:50 AM
OK kiddies, another beautiful handle tonight with $3,242,085.00!  The weekend did $6.3 million combined for a non-Hambletonian event, with limited on-site patrons allowed in to bet live as well!  Those are the actual NUMBERS, which suddenly do not mean anything to those with faulty facts.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: help on August 02, 2020, 12:55:27 AM
The meet is coming to an end . Fire in the last few days.

They are racing until 9-19-20 according to the USTA.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Pull the Pocket on August 02, 2020, 01:01:38 AM
Quote from:  GURAL ASS LICKER
link=topic=68231.msg1045207#msg1045207 date=1596343130
OK kiddies, another beautiful handle tonight with $3,242,085.00!  The weekend did $6.3 million combined for a non-Hambletonian event, with limited on-site patrons allowed in to bet live as well!  Those are the actual NUMBERS, which suddenly do not mean anything to those with faulty facts.

DONT FORGET THERE WERE ELIMS FOR THE HAMBONE. SO HOW WAS IT A NON HAMBONE EVENT?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 02, 2020, 01:03:20 AM
They close for only 3 weeks in August and re-open in September for the rest of the year, so 16W can drive himself crazy through Christmas.  Do you supposed knowledgeable harness aficionados here know your facts?   http://www.meadowlandsracetrack.com/uploadedfiles/calendar/2020calendar.pdf?_ga=2.176634981.1316954006.1596334528-714325897.1596334528
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Pull the Pocket on August 02, 2020, 01:10:52 AM
ARE YOU AUDITIONING TO TAKE DAVE LITTLES JOB?  SURE LOOKS LIKE IT.

DONT FORGET THE LIPSTICK
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 02, 2020, 01:12:17 AM
DONT FORGET THERE WERE ELIMS FOR THE HAMBONE. SO HOW WAS IT A NON HAMBONE EVENT?
The Hambletonian is NEXT week, not last night. The handle last night was a NON-Hambletonian DAY card.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 02, 2020, 01:13:28 AM
ARE YOU AUDITIONING TO TAKE DAVE LITTLES JOB?  SURE LOOKS LIKE IT.

DONT FORGET THE LIPSTICK
Facts Pocket......just the facts, not the spin doctoring nonsense that goes on here.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 02, 2020, 01:20:02 AM
Just a fact: their revenue, or handle, is such a failure that they need NJ taxpayers to bail them out. Embarrassing and wrong.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Pull the Pocket on August 02, 2020, 01:20:29 AM
Just a fact: their revenue, or handle, is such a failure that they need NJ taxpayers to bail them out. Embarrassing and wrong.
The Hambletonian is NEXT week, not last night. The handle last night was a NON-Hambletonian DAY card.

FUNNY IT WAS DARK OUT WHEN THEY FINISHED, BUT CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, JUST MAKE THINGS UP
FIRST YEAR OF THE RUINED HAMBLETONIAN

PERHAPS WE SHOULD CHANGE ITS MONIKER

THE TROT THAT GURAL GAVE US

THE GURALTONIAN

THE GURAL INVITATIONAL TROT HAS A NICE RING TO IT

ANOTHER PAGE OF HARNESS RACING HISTORY GETS FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Dingus on August 02, 2020, 08:17:35 AM
one of the biggest mistakes they are making is not allowing any rebates whatsoever to NJ residents via tvg( the only adw they will allow).

The first step to making this a better situation instead of bitching to the governor about their failures is to allow adw rebates to people in the state.

Actually, itís 0.2%, or $5 for every $2500 bet.
But thatís horrible too.
They call it Wager Rewards, lol.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on August 02, 2020, 09:31:25 AM
FUNNY IT WAS DARK OUT WHEN THEY FINISHED, BUT CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, JUST MAKE THINGS UP
FIRST YEAR OF THE RUINED HAMBLETONIAN

PERHAPS WE SHOULD CHANGE ITS MONIKER

THE TROT THAT GURAL GAVE US

THE GURALTONIAN

THE GURAL INVITATIONAL TROT HAS A NICE RING TO IT

ANOTHER PAGE OF HARNESS RACING HISTORY GETS FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET

Dumb statements
Your gripe is with The Hambletonian Society. They make the rules.

Contact them with your concerns. The Meadowlands is just the venue.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Racing Troll on August 02, 2020, 10:31:46 AM
 HAMBO SOCIETY, THAT IS JOHN KISS ASS CAMPBELL, HE WHO HAS ONE ANSWER, NO MATTER THE QUESTION

RAISE THE PURSE.   I BET THE MEDOLANDS KICKS IN A CHUNK OF THE PURSE, SO IT IS MORE THAN JUST THE VENUE

These include harness racingís most prominent race, the Hambletonian for 3-year-old trotters, its filly division, the Hambletonian Oaks and the sportís championship series, the Breeders Crown. Stakes and early-closing races are events where the total purse is generated by eligibility payments from horse breeders and owners as well as funds added by the sponsor, usually the race track hosting the race.

AND WHERE JEFF GETS HIS MONEY IS FROM THE TAXPAYERS OF NEW JERSEY, HOLD THE HAMBO, DO AWAY WITH A MONTH OR SO OF THE OVERNITES TO COME UP WITH THE PURSE
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on August 02, 2020, 11:30:19 AM

What I do not like is the propaganda that their revenue makes them a success.

Do you pay taxes in NJ? If you do, part of that revenue is filtered to the meadowlands simply because their racing operation is a money losing failure. You really can't make sense as to why people have a problem with the gloating about handle?

Makes *** boy a success when he is a ZERO Hero, sing it Billy Sing it  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_DV54ddNHE

Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on August 08, 2020, 05:03:47 AM
Just a fact: their revenue, or handle, is such a failure that they need NJ taxpayers to bail them out. Embarrassing and wrong.

HANDLE WAS FLAT PROVING THE STATES BAILOUT OF GURAL LANDS IS JUST A KICKBACK FOR GURAL SPONSORING LEFT WING POLITICS . ALL THOSE TAXPAYERS MILLIONS GOING TO THE TOP 1% OF HARNESS RACINGS ELITES.  GOVT FUNDING OF HARNESS RACING, A TOTAL FAILURE,  ALL FUTURE FUNDING BAILOUTS SHOULD COME UNDER THE SCRUTINY  OF BLM AND SEE IF IT PASSES THEIR THIER STANDARDS
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: help on August 08, 2020, 01:40:51 PM
Just a fact: their revenue, or handle, is such a failure that they need NJ taxpayers to bail them out. Embarrassing and wrong.

What does that say about the rest of the sport and country/continent except Hawthorne and Cal Expo?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 08, 2020, 02:14:41 PM
What does that say about the rest of the sport and country/continent except Hawthorne and Cal Expo?

It says the same thing.

My point was that those other tracks don't boast about their revenue then out of the other side of their mouth cry for a subsidy. Did you catch Gural groan on and on today about the subsidy?

He is going to make a ton of money with his sports book. I think that should be sufficient
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: help on August 08, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
It says the same thing.

My point was that those other tracks don't boast about their revenue then out of the other side of their mouth cry for a subsidy. Did you catch Gural groan on and on today about the subsidy?

He is going to make a ton of money with his sports book. I think that should be sufficient

They don't have to cry about it because they are already given it. If you think they are the only one's boasting about handle, then you weren't around when Scioto was doing the same thing a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 08, 2020, 07:43:26 PM
They don't have to cry about it because they are already given it. If you think they are the only one's boasting about handle, then you weren't around when Scioto was doing the same thing a few weeks ago.

Gural has ti cry about it because the subsidy was onky for 2020. It was on a prove it basis for following years.

Scioto doesn't beg for a subsidy. Not relevant to my point
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on August 09, 2020, 05:29:46 AM
SIMPLY PUT, LAST YEAR WINS AGAIN

2019....6,501,778

2020..... 5,730,615


3/4 OF A MILLION DOLLARS SHORT FROM THE SAME DATE LAST SEASON.  THAT IS A LOT OF 10 CENT SUPERS!

#GURALASSKISSERS  WILL REALLY HAVE TO DIG DEEP IN EFFORTS TO SPIN THE FAILURE
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 09, 2020, 10:51:56 AM
SIMPLY PUT, LAST YEAR WINS AGAIN

2019....6,501,778

2020..... 5,730,615


3/4 OF A MILLION DOLLARS SHORT FROM THE SAME DATE LAST SEASON.  THAT IS A LOT OF 10 CENT SUPERS!

#GURALASSKISSERS  WILL REALLY HAVE TO DIG DEEP IN EFFORTS TO SPIN THE FAILURE
Last year had 20,000 people at the track betting. This year had 500? Live handle generates at least $500,000-$1 million additional handle.  People who go to the Hambletonian are mostly NOT regulars to harness racing. They go as a yearly experience and if they do not go, they do NOT bet online.  The scheduling of the Travers also was an impediment to the betting dollar.  If a horseplayer will bet $100.00 for the day, they probably won't double that to $200.00 to bet additional major races.  Failure? That is your realm of WRONG assessments on a weekly basis.  I thought NUMBERS don't mean anything to you, as you said last week?  I guess you forgot about the $5 million handle Pace night already and your comments!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 09, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
16W comment August 1: "-----I REALLY DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE HANDLE NUMBER, IT IS THE CONSTANT BRAGADOSIH ATTEMPT TO KISS THEMSELVES ON THEIR RESPECTIVE ASSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN NONE OF IT, I GIVE THE 5 MIL PACE NIGHT AN *, MEANS ANYTHING,, YET SOMETIMES THEY LEAD THE ARTICLE WITH IT!! NO CLASS AT ALL, HOPE HE SELLS THE TRACKS AND DISAPPEARS"-----------you hang yourself every time you post nonsense.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 09, 2020, 11:07:32 AM
SIMPLY PUT, LAST YEAR WINS AGAIN

2019....6,501,778

2020..... 5,730,615


3/4 OF A MILLION DOLLARS SHORT FROM THE SAME DATE LAST SEASON.  THAT IS A LOT OF 10 CENT SUPERS!

#GURALASSKISSERS  WILL REALLY HAVE TO DIG DEEP IN EFFORTS TO SPIN THE FAILURE

They will tell you that the people who bet the meadowlands are the only people in the county who won't bet onine from home.

Watching them position post times up against saratoga was cringeworthy. They had a great opportunity to capture additional handle and totally screwed it up. What a failure.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: kentuckywars on August 09, 2020, 12:07:06 PM
If Pace night did 5.05 million with 13 races, yesterdays 5.7 million with 16 races is NOT GOOD. The "sport" had now limited itself to a handful of big names who are dominating it and it appeals to nobody of the general public. They put out huge billboard signs around north jersey a month out and then put a dumb hamburger and hot dog buy in to enter. M1 will survive only because of sports betting and Murphy's free handouts, which will end after this past freebie, but the rest of them are approaching the finish line of death called decoupling.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: The Exporter on August 09, 2020, 01:49:11 PM
Good handle, improved handle. New customers, lost market share, top trainers and Vets. indicted, ... none of this means anything if you have the right politics. In politics, few things trade on their merit. Most often, political issues trade on their power. When you lose your allegiance to the current power brokers, then your in trouble.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Dingus on August 09, 2020, 06:49:16 PM
Iím not taking sides here, but itís a shame so many of you canít enjoy the races.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: backinblack on August 09, 2020, 07:44:03 PM
Saratoga betters aren't betting meadowlands...so that is no excuse at all.

On track is at least plausible.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on August 29, 2020, 07:03:45 AM
 5 STRAIGHT DATES, NO HANDLE AT ALL.  GURAL MUST BE BROKE, BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT.  HEY CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT JEW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT.  HOPE THE GOVT CUTS OFF YOUR GRAVY TRAIN.  DIG IN YOUR POCKETS FOR SOME PURSE MONEY.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on August 29, 2020, 09:11:18 AM
5 STRAIGHT DATES, NO HANDLE AT ALL.  GURAL MUST BE BROKE, BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT.  HEY CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT JEW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT.  HOPE THE GOVT CUTS OFF YOUR GRAVY TRAIN.  DIG IN YOUR POCKETS FOR SOME PURSE MONEY.


 62za.clp  62za.clp  62za.clp
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: SAW on August 29, 2020, 11:09:24 AM
5 STRAIGHT DATES, NO HANDLE AT ALL.  GURAL MUST BE BROKE, BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT.  HEY CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT JEW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT.  HOPE THE GOVT CUTS OFF YOUR GRAVY TRAIN.  DIG IN YOUR POCKETS FOR SOME PURSE MONEY.

Holy Crap........ Your like a broken record

Seek professional help your constant racist rants/stalking/crying about Gural is sad and not healthy!

I REALLY DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE HANDLE NUMBER,

If you dont give a CRAP??? WHY the 3 YEARS of RANTS about HANDLE???
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on August 29, 2020, 02:43:33 PM
Holy Crap........ Your like a broken record

Seek professional help your constant racist rants/stalking/crying about Gural is sad and not healthy!

If you dont give a CRAP??? WHY the 3 YEARS of RANTS about HANDLE???

GOOD QUESTION!!!!!
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on August 29, 2020, 03:42:10 PM

If you dont give a CRAP??? WHY the 3 YEARS of RANTS about HANDLE???

Again, good question.

Might this just be done for site ratings/hits?
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on August 29, 2020, 07:29:25 PM
Again, good question.

Might this just be done for site ratings/hits?

BUMP for ratings
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on August 29, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
Again, good question.

Might this just be done for site ratings/hits?
He is insane. The definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and over and expect a different result.  This website is full of racists as well who are a stain on humanity and who rate below the racehorses they critique here in terms of class.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on August 30, 2020, 06:30:26 AM
LARGEST HANDLE OF THE 2020 TROTTING SEASON... BY WOODBINE/MOHAWK  AND THE MEDS IS CLOSED WITH ITS PROPRIETOR CRYING FOR A HANDOUT.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on September 12, 2020, 06:06:31 AM
  HANDLE PLUMMETS, TO A SEASONAL LOW.  DOESNT LOOK GOOD TO POLITICIANS IN TRENTON TO HAVE NANCY PELOSI HOLDING UP COVID AID FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY WHILE SHE BEGS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVT TO BAIL OUT, HORRIBLY RUN, DEMOCRATIC STATE.

PLEASE PRESIDENT TRUMP, CUT OFF THE WELFARE PURSE TRAIN FOR THE MEADOWLANDS.

LET THAT RICH BASTARD JEFF GURAL BAIL OUT NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY AND THEIR LYING GOVERNORS.  HE HAS IT, THE CHEAP FUCKING JEW WITH ALLYGATOR ARMS



MIND BETTORS WILL NOT SAVE THE TRACK
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: mwins on September 12, 2020, 11:27:51 AM
WEG handle has never been this consistently high.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on September 12, 2020, 11:44:33 AM
LARGEST HANDLE OF THE 2020 TROTTING SEASON... BY WOODBINE/MOHAWK  AND THE MEDS IS CLOSED WITH ITS PROPRIETOR CRYING FOR A HANDOUT.

No doubt Gooooofffrrrraaal lllll Inc will be asking for a handout from WEG because with Pinky Downs being closed, Mohawk would not be handling what they are  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on September 13, 2020, 04:51:07 AM
WEG handle has never been this consistently high.

ONCE AGAIN THEY CRUSH

MOHAWK Total Handle: $3,087,312

THE JEWS HANDLE 2.7

CONGRATS TO CANADA FOR BECOMING THE #1 TRACK IN THE SPORT IN REAL WAGERING.  NOT MIND BETTORS  LIKE THE

GURAL ASSKISSING ARMY,

WHICH POST HERE AND PLAY PRETEND
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 13, 2020, 05:15:24 AM
$2,346,357  American.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Pull the Pocket on September 13, 2020, 06:15:36 AM
 Good to see Woodbine/Mohawk win the handle war.  They do so much more FOR THE INDUSTRY than the JERSEY JEW
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Sore feet on September 13, 2020, 08:41:31 AM
ONCE AGAIN THEY CRUSH

MOHAWK Total Handle: $3,087,312

THE JEWS HANDLE 2.7

CONGRATS TO CANADA FOR BECOMING THE #1 TRACK IN THE SPORT IN REAL WAGERING.  NOT MIND BETTORS  LIKE THE

GURAL ASSKISSING ARMY,

WHICH POST HERE AND PLAY PRETEND

To be fair, have you made the proper conversions in Canadian and American dollars????????
Of course not, because it doesnt fit your narrative.

That's 3,087,312 Canadian which equates to

2,346,357 USD handle for Mohawk...vs the 2,744,326 USD handle for Meadowlands.

If you are going to keep records, do it right at least.
Just saying.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Exit 16W on September 20, 2020, 05:20:32 AM
ONCE AGAIN, OUTHANDLED BY MOHAWK

2,885 K FOR KANADUH AND ONLY 2,448 K FOR THE JERSEY OUTFIT.

MIND BETTORS ONCE AGAIN PROVE THEY CANT BE TRUSTED.  MAYBE THE KANNUCKS WERE THANKING CLAY HORNY FOR QUITTING AT THE WEG.

MAYBE YOU MIND BETTERS MIGHT SALUTE GURAL IN SIMILAR FASHION, IF HE GIVES UP HIS RACE TRACK PLAY TOY
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 20, 2020, 07:25:54 AM
$2,184,215  American dollars.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: myakaprince on September 20, 2020, 11:13:21 AM
ONCE AGAIN, OUTHANDLED BY MOHAWK

2,885 K FOR KANADUH AND ONLY 2,448 K FOR THE JERSEY OUTFIT.

MIND BETTORS ONCE AGAIN PROVE THEY CANT BE TRUSTED.  MAYBE THE KANNUCKS WERE THANKING CLAY HORNY FOR QUITTING AT THE WEG.

MAYBE YOU MIND BETTERS MIGHT SALUTE GURAL IN SIMILAR FASHION, IF HE GIVES UP HIS RACE TRACK PLAY TOY
Demented one, Canada has stakes cards vs. overnights at the big M.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on September 20, 2020, 11:41:15 AM
Demented one, Canada has stakes cards vs. overnights at the big M.

Sounds like they need stipulations now to be met in order to be considered the #1 harness track.
Title: Re: POST PANDEMIC HANDLE REPORT
Post by: Atthetrack7 on September 20, 2020, 11:48:58 AM
Demented one, Canada has stakes cards vs. overnights at the big M.

EDZACHARY, WHY EVEN HAVE THE OVERNITE CARD? 

DOES HE HAVE TO SPEND EVERY LAST NICKLE OF THE CURRENT DEBIT CARD TO PRE QUALIFY FOR NEXT YEARS ENDOWMENT?
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