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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Exit 16W on June 06, 2020, 05:26:27 AM
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PROLLY A HUGE DISAPPOINT TO ALL YOU GURAL ASS KISSERS
Total Handle
$2,882,818.00
TIME FOR THE GURAL ASS KISSERS TO CHIME IN, NOT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
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they were doing over 3 million on Fridays pre pandemic
what went wrong?
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Genius, last year: Total Handle: $2,503,386 on a fast track. Last night was a deluge of rain. Go get a job at CNN already. You have the same credibility.
WASNT RAINING IN MY LIVING ROOM, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE FOUND WAGERING ON A SCIOTO DOWNS PROGRAM BETTER THAN A MEADOWLANDS CARD. I BLAME THAT ON NO ONE OTHER THAN GURAL
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The harness racing market shrunk and is struggling to be relevant. This belief there will be a pent-up demand for wagering on harness racing was and is a pipe dream. In 3 months, people have changed their behavior in the how they they will spend their gambling dollars.
It will take a strong, well targeted and funded marketing program. When was the last time you saw that? Even then, the cost will prove to be cost prohibitive.
If there is a viable market for harness racing wagering, the $2,882,818 was disappointing. Let's see what happens over the next few weeks.
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Genius, last year: Total Handle: $2,503,386 on a fast track. Last night was a deluge of rain. Go get a job at CNN already. You have the same credibility.
You should apologize before someone shows you how Mohawk did y/o/y or lists the # of tracks that ran yesterday vs a year ago.
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You should apologize before someone shows you how Mohawk did y/o/y or lists the # of tracks that ran yesterday vs a year ago.
The deluge was too much to overcome
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Its going to be interesting to see what sciotos handle does in the next few weeks. Casinos open in ohio on june 21 so there will be othere places for people to blow their money
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Everybody RELAX on bigtrack handles...wait for fullstories to play out.
CASINO NOT OPEN AT MOHAWK
NO FANS AT MOHAWK, SO NO LINEUPS TO BET WITH TELLERS, AND MOST IMPORTANT, IN THOSE LINES NO 'OTHER TRACK TVS' TO BET ON AS WELL WHEN YOURE IN LINES..
NO FANS IN TORONTO AT WOODBINE TBREDS SO NO CROSSOVER ACTION
AND OF COURSE NO OTBs LOCATIONS OPEN IN THE ONTARIO SO LOTS OF HANDLE, ESP. FROM SUPER SENIORS, IMMIGRANTS AND WELFARE FANS...THATS HANDLE TRACKS ARENT SEEING
it all adds up.....
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I WAS AT NORTHFIELD THE OTHER NIGHT AND MY STEED WARMED UP AWESOME, SO I WANTED TO GET A TWENTY ON HIS NOSE
THE BASTARD FUCKERS CLOSED THE BETTING WINDOW IN THE PADDOCK
THIS SHIT HAS GOT TO GET BACK TO NORMAL AND SOONER THE BETTER
IF US DRIVERS CANT BET, NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BET
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A betting window in the paddock. ngc3
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I was actually shocked with 13 races I thought 4 million was obtainable. To not even get close to 3 was extremely disappointing. Maybe tonight .
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I can’t believe with 13 full fields and they didn’t do 3m,,,something wrong,,,
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A betting window in the paddock. ngc3
Every track I have been to has at least one self betting terminal in the paddock for drivers, trainers, grooms, judges, the food/concession worker, the judge, track employees, etc to wager.
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Pocono has a teller
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I noticed the handle on a couple of Meds races -- and thought this is not the number they had to be hoping for.
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They were satisfied with the handle because it was close to what they do on a typical Friday. Meadowlands usually handles about $200k on track so the empty grandstand had minimal impact on the handle.
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They were satisfied with the handle because it was close to what they do on a typical Friday. Meadowlands usually handles about $200k on track so the empty grandstand had minimal impact on the handle.
but what was typical of a Friday minus 200k doesn't seem like the goal they should be striving for.
Not when Northfield and Scioto are racing on the same night and handling 2.5 million collectively or more
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with purses tonight at the Meds === Meds need to handle 3.76 million to cover purses at 5% return from ADW.... but does not include expenses like staff, utilites, maintenance, etc.
As Gural said --- everyday we race, we lose money --- Jeff is probably for that sports book to reopen....
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but what was typical of a Friday minus 200k doesn't seem like the goal they should be striving for.
Not when Northfield and Scioto are racing on the same night and handling 2.5 million collectively or more
Did Northfield and Scioto really do 2.5 mill last night??
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They are on average to handle less on a Saturday. They are lucky to get a 5% split. It all depends how much of that handle is in the state of NJ. The % is lower to out of state ADW betting. Sport bettors have turned to trading stocks with no takeout with having no trading fees.
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Handle didn’t look good tonight that’s for sure
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THE RACE TRACK BULLY, GOT HIS ASS KICKED AS THE BETTING PUBLIC CHOSE OTHER AVENUES TO WAGER THEIR GAMBLING DOLLAR
total Handle
$2,743,509.00
A FULL HALF A BILLION LESS THAN L GETS GOING AGAINAST YEAR
THE BULLY MAY THREATEN TO SHUT HIS TRACK DOWN ONCE SPORTS GETS BACK ON THE MENU.
THE RTB, HAS THE WORLD TO HIS SELF RIGHT NOW, AND THE PUBLIC IS GIVING HIM A KICK SQUARELY IN THE BALLS
RACE TRACK OWNERS LIVES DONT MATTER
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HAWTHRONE KICKED OFF THE SEASON WITH A MILLION DOLLAR HANDLE tmbz1
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No doubt these closed outlets and on track have hindered M1 handle. But, I thought they would still be doing more. I am happy to see the "B" tracks are putting much higer numbers. The problem is though, everyone but the track and horsemen are getting a fair benefit form the numbers.
So, if the tracks can not realize the benefit, there is another notch in the belts of casinos.
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Horatio Hornblower, you are something else. I live in the NYC/NJ market. The 2 main OTBs in NJ are Winners at Bayonne and Favorites at Woodbridge. Monmouth Park also has a nice simulcast following. All three are currently CLOSED. The Meadowlands is currently CLOSED too for on site betting. Once all 4 are allowed to reopen there will be a nice increase in the total handle. Believe it or not, not everyone bets on their computers. I for one do not and am waiting to go back to the Meadowlands once it reopens to the public. Favorites at Woodbridge in NJ is one of the most successful OTBs in the country and it is shut down now. Facts!
NO OTHER TRACK IS OPEN EITHER
GOT A KWESTION FER YA?
DO THEY HAVE INTERWEBNET IN NEW YAWK AND NEW JOISEY YET? IF SO, HAVE ONE OF THOSE PROTESTERS, GO LOOT YOU A COMPUTER OR ONE OF THOSE NEW FANGELED PHONES THEY GOT NOW A DAYS
I SEE WHAT HE MEANS BY THE TERM GURAL ASS KISSER ngc3
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HAWTHRONE KICKED OFF THE SEASON WITH A MILLION DOLLAR HANDLE tmbz1
And lost money.
Sincerely, Silent One
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Horatio Hornblower, you are something else. I live in the NYC/NJ market. The 2 main OTBs in NJ are Winners at Bayonne and Favorites at Woodbridge. Monmouth Park also has a nice simulcast following. All three are currently CLOSED. The Meadowlands is currently CLOSED too for on site betting. Once all 4 are allowed to reopen there will be a nice increase in the total handle. Believe it or not, not everyone bets on their computers. I for one do not and am waiting to go back to the Meadowlands once it reopens to the public. Favorites at Woodbridge in NJ is one of the most successful OTBs in the country and it is shut down now. Facts!
The lack of otb and live attendance hasn't hurt a single other track running in the country.
Something must be up with distribution. This isn't due to a particularly large segment of metro NY who don't bet online. That is silly.
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What did Mohawk handle on Saturday night?? I know the carryover Jackpot was almost 500k, but Im curious how much their handle went up without the Jackpot??
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What did Mohawk handle on Saturday night?? I know the carryover Jackpot was almost 500k, but Im curious how much their handle went up without the Jackpot??
what a lazy fucktard
look it up yourself
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I do agree the 2 night handle was really disappointing. Thought 4 million a night was possible and 3 would have been an easy number . Maybe unemployment hurt ? Hell to have the Ohio tracks rival them is unfathomable .
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Very disappointing handle at the Mecca
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what a lazy fucktard
look it up yourself
Thank You, your always such a nice person!
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A VERY SAD TOTAL FOR AN 18 RACE CARD
$3,481,817.00
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Today's 10-race card at Belmont Park
@TheNYRA
generated all sources handle of $12,488,960, a 130% increase over 6/21/19 ($5,437,519).
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Note to M1 basher.......Exit 16W
It might have been higher, but with so many Yonkers regulars in the driving colony, bettors are still a little reluctant to fire away.
There is no harness track in North America can compete with that
This years Prix D Amerique in France...handled $ 32 million
I don't see many posts saying what a nice gesture of Jeff Gural to card 36 races in 2 days....only Mark Ford stepped up with his comment.
Did any of the fortunate horsepeople take the time to thank Jeff or Jason or the race office for this gesture ??
I would like to hear about it
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WHORSEMEN DONT THANK ANYONE... THAT WORD IS NOT IN THEIR VOCABULARY
WHORSEMEN THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED AND TRACK OWNERS SHOULD KISS THEIR ASS
36 RACES, ARE 36 TOO MANY. I WILL CHEER WHEN HE SHUTS THE DOOR ON HARNESS RACING AND TELL YOU WELFARE FRAUDS TO GET A REAL JOB
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Hopefully they crack the 4 million tonight . The card at pocono this afternoon hopefully gets some attention as well .
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THAT MEADOWLANDS TRACK OWNER HAS TO BE PISSED HE ISNT GETTING ANY OF THAT HUGE BELMONT HANDLE TODAY
FUCK HIM AND THE COW HIS MOM RODE IN ON
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Too Many total throwouts at the lands and it affects handle big time.
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Granted some of the money for the sires stakes is supported by other sources, but with their handle and taking 5% and not adding in any costs to run the track (personnel, utilities, insurance, etc) Meadowlands started probably losing money after the 10th or 11th race.
This isn't a knock against the Meds as every track is losing money everytime the starting gate pulls onto the track.
I bring it up as I followed a facebook thread last week that had people congratulating Tioga downs on a record handle. I think they had 15 races.... Using simple but not perfect math of 5% ( no way tioga gets 5% for their signal ) they would have ran out of money after the fourth race.
The industry wants to pat themselves on the back, but wait for it, wait for it, when the time comes and the decoupling of slots occurs in the first state ( Probably Florida ) then other will follow and then what.... We will hear about how they are taking OUR money. And still after decades, the industry has no plan to change and survive.
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A VERY SAD TOTAL FOR AN 18 RACE CARD
$3,481,817.00
Wow You are obsessed, do you set your alarm for 3am to check the meadowlands Handle????
They averaged almost 200k per race, I would have guessed they would do 3.6,3.7mil but they didnt, it is what it is.
Comparing Thoroughbreds to Harness? They are not the same thing, they never were, but you know that!
One thing they did last night was really cut back on the post time drag, some people will like that, but that probably cost them some handle.
I'll agree with cornishcommish. "There is no harness track in North America can compete with that"
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Last year total Handle: $2,392,922------what is sad is your cherry picking weekly items to suit your warped narrative.
I SEE THE GURAL ASS KISSERS ARE LINING UP, DID THEY RACE 18 RACES LAST YEAR?
DONT THINK SO
HAVE A NICE DAY
AND GO FUCK YOURSELF tmbz1
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I SEE THE GURAL ASS KISSERS ARE LINING UP, DID THEY RACE 18 RACES LAST YEAR?
DONT THINK SO
HAVE A NICE DAY
AND GO FUCK YOURSELF tmbz1
I already know the response, but I'll ask the question anyway. Why do you always need to come with the vitriol/name calling to try any make a point?
No it was for 13 races for an average of 184k per race last year.
Last nights average for 18 races was 193k.
It is what it is, no matter the bashing/hatred its still the top North American Standardbred track
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AND BEING THE BEST PILE OF SHIT GOING, STILL MEANS YOU ARE A PILE OF SHIT. GO POST SOME MORE LOSERS FUCKTARD
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AND BEING THE BEST PILE OF SHIT GOING, STILL MEANS YOU ARE A PILE OF SHIT. GO POST SOME MORE LOSERS FUCKTARD
As usual you make no sense?
Also how many accounts do you have.
Thanks again for your thoughtful posts.
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Note to M1 basher.......Exit 16W
It might have been higher, but with so many Yonkers regulars in the driving colony, bettors are still a little reluctant to fire away.
There is no harness track in North America can compete with that
This years Prix D Amerique in France...handled $ 32 million
I don't see many posts saying what a nice gesture of Jeff Gural to card 36 races in 2 days....only Mark Ford stepped up with his comment.
Did any of the fortunate horsepeople take the time to thank Jeff or Jason or the race office for this gesture ??
I would like to hear about it
Bartlett/stratton/Macdonald are now hamstringing handle.
I've now heard it all
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IS THIS THE GUY THEY CALL GURAL ASSKISSER??.....SOMEBODY CHANGED HIS NAME IN A QUOTE AND MY CHAIR BROKE!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Yeah ! I said it had the makings of a 4 million night . Gural didn’t lose any of his money tonight .
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Total Handle tonight was a huge $4,100,385.00 which was $228,000 per race! Way to go. tmbz1
YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT?
2020 Belmont Stakes Day generates $67,753,336 in all-sources handle
NOT EVEN A DROP IN THE BUCKET. MUST BE TRYING TO PROTECT HIS FRONT SPOT IN THE LINE TO BE ASS KISSER OF THE WEEK
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Saturday night with 14 races 1 year ago the handle was $2,599,179. This Saturday with only 13 races the handle was $2,863,730.
bad thing - Meadowlands still lost money --- is the sportsbook (albeit not much happening) open ?
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bad thing - Meadowlands still lost money --- is the sportsbook (albeit not much happening) open ?
Taking bets on how many PGA players have covid....over/under is currently 5
it's at 5 now!!!
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Who gives a fuck that track sucks totally un bet able
Fake handle as well
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You obviously care enough to comment.
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Thanks for hanging onto my every post ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Are you sure about that? Who's stalking who?
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THE STREAK HAS ENDED, WHAT A SHAME
2020 $2,451,141
2019 $2,611,912
START A NEW STREAK TONIGHT tmbz1
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sportsbook is open at meadowlands
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I WAS WONDERING IF THE GURAL ASS KISSERS WERE GOING TI OFFER EXCUSES FOR THEIR FAILURE
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14 races last year pal and the lightning pushed back the racing. You were missing the last 2 weekends. I wonder why? Enjoy your vacation from reality?
Yes as I stated last night the almost 1 hour racing delay caused much shorter times between races.
A lot of people complain about post drag.... and I somewhat agree, but when you only have 10 or 12 minutes between races it will definitely effect the handle
If anyone was wondering....... Gov Murphy has a law because of Covid-19 thus N.J. has a Midnight curfew/deadline.
No ass kissing or silly hatred...... Just the FACTS.
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Lets see if Exit 16W gets up at 3am to post the Big M's Saturday Night Handle??? My guess is NO!!!
My rough number is 3 million.
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ONLY ONE NUMBER IS IMPORTANT
HOW MANY PEOPLE CAUGHT THE CORONA VIRUS FROM RACE TRACK DEGENERATES AND HORSEFUCKS?
WONDER IF THE SPORTS EYE WILL HAVE THAT NUMBER LISTED?
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Stop crying be glad there racings.
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WITH YONKER CLOSED, POCO ONO RACING IN THE DAYTIME, SAME FOR SCIOTO, AND RUNNING ASSHOLES OFF. A HANDLE OF ONLY 3 MILL IS PISS POOR AT BEST.
LAUGH WHEN DEGENERATE DEAD MONEY GAMBLERS POST A HANDLE OF !!!!! 3 MILLION!!!!! LIKE IT JUSTIFIES THEM LOSING THEIR RENT MONEY OR GRANDMA'S PRESCRIPTION MONEY. LIKE THEIR MIND BETS ARE ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN ANY TOTAL.
I BET MONMOUT DID OVER 5 MILLION AND BELMONT DID OVER 10 MILLION. SO BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR TINY 3 DOESNT IMPRESS NO ONE
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FOR THE UMPTEENTH WEEK IN A ROW. THE METOOLANDS HANDLED OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS
2020...$2,373,660
2019... $2,730,881
WHEN YOU GURAL ASS KISSERS LINE UP... MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A MASK AND FOLLOW SOCIAL DISTANCING GUIDLINES OF MAKING YOUR POSTS AT LEAST 6 FEET APART tmbz1
THANK YOU, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE OF SERVICE
AND ALWAYS
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BUT WHERE IN LINE BEHIND O0 LIVES MATTER?
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16W, you truly are Baron Of Gray Matter. How many races did they run last year? 14 is the answer. They ran 13 last night. Did you happen to see the weather conditions on a -2 variant night on a sloppy track vs. last year's fast track? Tonight they won't do $4 million like they did last year and why? It is because last year it was Pace night. Tonight is NOT Pace night. Return to you hibernation mode as your axons and dendrites take a rest from over use last night.
DENDRITES.....
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METOOLANDS
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Total handle was a nice $3,440,248.00. tmbz1 Last year they did $4 million but is was Pace night. In fact, last year, the same stakes card as tonight was run July 6th, a week earlier, and the 11 race handle was $2,654,992.
Do you realize that there is a current pandemic and all tracks are doing better than last year?
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Do you realize that there is a current pandemic and all tracks are doing better than last year?
ALL TRACKS EXCEPT ONE
2020....$3,440,248
2019 …$4,044,303
HUGE DROP OFF, ONLY 8 DATES LEFT IN CURRENT MEAT
THANK GOD 62za.clp
WATCH AS THE #ASSKISSINGARMY TRIES TO JUSTIFY THEIR DEGENERATE BEHAVIOR BY MAKING EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE
WITH COVID 19 EXPLODING ONE NEVER KNOWS IF THERE WILL BE A NEXT WEEK, AS WE KNOW GOVERNOR SMURPH NEEDS TO RECLAIM HIS SPOT IN THE POLITCAL HEIRARCHY AND SHUT THE WHOLE STATE DOWN, TO THE ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE FROM MEDIA SOURCES
STAY SAFE MY FRIENDS, STAY HOME
AND WASH YOUR LAUNDRY AS WELL AS YOUR HANDS
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As long as the handle is above 3 million in these times it’s a great number . Half of our patrons still are unemployed and have no money to gamble . Our numbers have fallen every year and undoubtedly in 5 years anything over 2 million will be a great number . Just be happy we still have some entertainment.
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Do you realize last year it was Pace night vs. this year? Next week the handle will be around $4 million vs. last year's $2,413,614 the same night. Next week will top last year's handle by around $1.5 million so what will you say then? Look at the FACTS. Compare the races that were run. THEN decide. 16W will disappear next Saturday night! Bank on it!
I would answer your questions if you answered mine.
Do you realize that because of the pandemic that handles are generally up across the board in both breeds?
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TODAYS NUMPERS WILL INCLUDE A NUMBER OF HAMBURGERS DAVE LITTLE ATE WHILE PREPPING FOR HIS MATCH AGAINST JOEY CHETWOOD IN THE DOGS VS BURGERS EATING CONTEST ON CORN NIGHT AT THE MEDS.
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RUSSIAN HACKERS INFILTRATED AND SUBSTITUTED CORONA VIRUS NUMBERS INSTEAD OF HANDLE NUMBERS
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RUSSIAN HACKERS INFILTRATED AND SUBSTITUTED CORONA VIRUS NUMBERS INSTEAD OF HANDLE NUMBERS
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TODAYS NUMPERS WILL INCLUDE A NUMBER OF HAMBURGERS DAVE LITTLE ATE WHILE PREPPING FOR HIS MATCH AGAINST JOEY CHETWOOD IN THE DOGS VS BURGERS EATING CONTEST ON CORN NIGHT AT THE MEDS.
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To all of the doubters here, the proof is in the results. Total handle-------- $5,051,261.00!----------last year, the same night, the handles was only
In the scope of things, that number is not good
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In the scope of things, that number is not good
ANTIFA, AND VARIOUS MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS LAUNDERED HALF THE TOTAL HANDLE. OPENING DAY, THURSDAY @ SARATOGO T BRED HANDLED 19.1 MILLION.
To all of the doubters here, the proof is in the results. Total handle--------$5,051,261.00!----------last year, the same night, the handles was only $2,413,614.
LETS HEAR JEWFRY THANK US AND SAY HE NO LONGER NEEDS MY TAX DOLLARS TO FUND HIS OPERATION. PUT THAT SPORT BOOK TO USE FUNDING THE RACING SIDE OF THE EQUATION
JEWFRY WILL PROBABLY SAY HE DESERVES MORE THANK YOUS FOR SAVIORING THE SPORT PERIOD
Adjusted for inflation, $1,000,000.00 in 1980 is equal to $3,350,378.10 in 2020. Annual inflation over this period was 3.07%. SO MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 5 AND GET THE REAL ELCHOPPO GURAL GURAL HANDLE REPORT
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SAT SARATOGO T BRED HANDLE
Mutuel Pool: $21,622,227.00
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5 MILLION ? LA DE FUCKING DA, WE USED TO DO THAT ON A NORMAL FRYDAY AND SATURDAY. THE ONLY THING GOOD ABOUT BIG HANDLES IS THAT WE, THE HORSEMEN, YOU KNOW US, WE ARE THE STARS OF THE SHOW. WE COULD COVER OUR BETS AND TEACH THOSE CRY FUKN BABY DEGENERATES JUST WHO WAS BOSS, AND WE WERE. WE HAD FORMER HORSEMEN IN EVERY POSITION AT A TRACK. FROM SECRETARY TO PADDOCK JUDGE TO THE GUY WHO DROVE THE DRAG... WE GOT WHAT WE WANTED, YOU WANTED SOMETHING, YOU PAID FOR IT. SLIP EVERYONE A BUCK OR TWO AND PRESTO, IT APPEARED. GAMBLERS AND THEIR CRYING WILL NEVER STOP.. THEY ARE LOSERS PERIOD. IF IT AINT ONE THING IT WILL BE ANOTHER. TREAT EM LIKE MUSHROOMS WAS AND IS STILL THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THE BETTING PUBIC
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HOW LOW WILL THIS WEEKS HANDLE PLUMMET, WILL THE GURAL ASS KISSERS UNION BE ABLE TO COME EVEN CLOSE TO LAST WEEKS PHONY NUMBER? I SAY NO.
ANYTHING LESS THAN 7 MILLION IS A COMPLETE FAILURE AS LAST WEEKS IMEPETUS WILL HAVE BEEN WASTED. NOW I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING THEIR EXCUSES FOR A WEEK NOW... CHEAP CARD.... LATE IN THE MONTH... SPORTS BETTING HAS BASEBALL TO TAKE FROM RACING... DID THEY ENTICE ANYONE TO BET THIS WEEK OR WAS IT A ONE AND DONE?
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HOW LOW WILL THIS WEEKS HANDLE PLUMMET, WILL THE GURAL ASS KISSERS UNION BE ABLE TO COME EVEN CLOSE TO LAST WEEKS PHONY NUMBER? I SAY NO.
ANYTHING LESS THAN 7 MILLION IS A COMPLETE FAILURE AS LAST WEEKS IMEPETUS WILL HAVE BEEN WASTED. NOW I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING THEIR EXCUSES FOR A WEEK NOW... CHEAP CARD.... LATE IN THE MONTH... SPORTS BETTING HAS BASEBALL TO TAKE FROM RACING... DID THEY ENTICE ANYONE TO BET THIS WEEK OR WAS IT A ONE AND DONE?
You sound like a 12 year old girl always CRYING Gural this.... & Gural that...... Waaaaa Waaaa
What a Meadowlands stalker you are...... What did Gural do to you steal your lollypop and kick your dog??????
Seek professional help!!!!!!
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That’s a good number. The huge handle days are long gone for harness racing. Have to be happy we still do this much .
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Total handle was $2,759,620.00 with 13 races. Last year with 14 races the handle was 2,480,291. 16W's skull is full of obsession. Where does he come up with $7 million this weekend?
And there was more wagered on the Yankees game Thursday than the world series last year. Imagine comparing the wagering on Yankees opener 2020 vs 2019. Incredible disparity.
Perspective. The meadiwlands doing only 300k more than last year is a total failure in this environment
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DOWN OVER 2 MILLION FROM LAST WEEK, WHERE DID IT GO? ARE THE MIND BETTORS LIKE SAW BROKE,AFTER ALL IT IS LATE IN THE MONTH AND THEIR NEXT CHEQUE IS OVER A WEAK AWAY. DID THE CARTEL GIVE A FEW MEMBERS THE WEEK OFF TO GO RIOT IN SEATTLE AND PORTLAND?
DOES ALL THE PICKS FROM THE ON AIR TALENT, ACTUALLY GO INTO THE BETTING POOLS OR ARE THEY THE #MINDBETTINGARMY
INQUIRING MINDS NEED TO KNOW
#MINDBETTINGARMY, DAMN FUNNY STUFF RIGHT THERE, EVEN MADE MYSELF CHUCKLE
OH WELL . TIME TO GET READY FOR BIBLE SCHOOL BE BACK LATER WITH MORE OPSERVATIONS
#GURALASSKISSERS, SPIN THE FACTS, JOE FRIDAY WOULD BE ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE
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What was last nights handle ?
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16W lives in an alternate reality. When did a followup weekend to a major stakes weekend not drop off? Does Churchill downs do the same handle the weekend after the Kentucky Derby? Last night did $100,000 MORE than last year did. In addition, you seem to forget that this year there is basically ZERO on track handle due to the virus. The PACE night usually gets around 10,000 people and I always go so I can tell you that personally. At a low $50.00 per person per night betting, that took away around Half a million in handle for the PACE night last week. In addition, the Hambletonian usually gets 15,000-20,000 people on track, which would add and additional $750,000-$1 million in handle that day, which will not be available in 2 weeks due to the limited patrons allowed. People who come out for the Pace and the Hambletonian are not regular bettors and the virus has caused a reduction in their participation in the betting this year. You need help, to be so obsessed with Gural in this manner.
DONT FORGET TO STAY AT LEAST 6 FEET BEHIND THE OTHER #GURALASSKISSERS WHEN STANDING IN LINE TO PLANT ONE ON YOUR SAVIORS BUTT CHEEKS
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Most of the handle is done by algorithms and doesn’t even help the handle why r u fools beating ur chest over it
If u r a business owner would u rather sell 100 widgets at cost or 10 for a 50% profit?
U harness folk aren’t to bright
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That’s a normal number . What’s all the fuss . You can write down each tracks Handles and get close without even trying . Pocono probably did 300 The Meadows 450 Tioga 150
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Total handle was a hefty $3,065,942.00 tonight vs. $2,294,097 last year. tmbz1 That is a 30% increase which should show the doubters the facts. Last year the Hambo was on the Saturday program so do not expect the Saturday handle to top last year's different card.
You continuously ignore another fact: across the industry handle is up over 20% from last year. This is due to COVID eliminating gambling and entertainment competition.
To do 30% better than this date last year with having 2 large carryovers on the card is a failure.
Much like you, they will spin it as a success. But then they will also beg the state for the tax payer money to continue because they are a failure.
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Last year there were carryover nights that did more than this year on random dates too. Bottom line is little tracks increasing their handles by 20% from $300,000 to $360,000 is nice, but it does not compare to the volume of betting the Meadowlands does as this constant bashing of the best betting track in North American harness racing is ludicrous at this point. You hate the top grossing track, go ahead. It makes NO sense.
What I do not like is the propaganda that their revenue makes them a success.
Do you pay taxes in NJ? If you do, part of that revenue is filtered to the meadowlands simply because their racing operation is a money losing failure. You really can't make sense as to why people have a problem with the gloating about handle?
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Last year there were carryover nights that did more than this year on random dates too. Bottom line is little tracks increasing their handles by 20% from $300,000 to $360,000 is nice, but it does not compare to the volume of betting the Meadowlands does as this constant bashing of the best betting track in North American harness racing is ludicrous at this point. You hate the top grossing track, go ahead. It makes NO sense.
Where I come from gross means shit net is what matters
So again tell me how high handle correlates to anything when the majority is made by computer algorithms which doesn't help purses and is given signal free so no $ to The track either
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Where I come from gross means shit net is what matters
So again tell me how high handle correlates to anything when the majority is made by computer algorithms which doesn't help purses and is given signal free so no $ to The track either
AND BING FUCKN O.... WE HAVE A WINNER
I REALLY DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE HANDLE NUMBER, IT IS THE CONSTANT BRAGADOSIH ATTEMPT TO KISS THEMSELVES ON THEIR RESPECTIVE ASSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN NONE OF IT, I GIVE THE 5 MIL PACE NIGHT AN *, MEANS ANYTHING,, YET SOMETIMES THEY LEAD THE ARTICLE WITH IT!! NO CLASS AT ALL, HOPE HE SELLS THE TRACKS AND DISAPPEARS
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The meet is coming to an end . Fire in the last few days.
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AND BING FUCKN O.... WE HAVE A WINNER
I REALLY DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE HANDLE NUMBER, IT IS THE CONSTANT BRAGADOSIH ATTEMPT TO KISS THEMSELVES ON THEIR RESPECTIVE ASSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN NONE OF IT, I GIVE THE 5 MIL PACE NIGHT AN *, MEANS ANYTHING,, YET SOMETIMES THEY LEAD THE ARTICLE WITH IT!! NO CLASS AT ALL, HOPE HE SELLS THE TRACKS AND DISAPPEARS
If "none of it means anything", why the multi year obsession?
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one of the biggest mistakes they are making is not allowing any rebates whatsoever to NJ residents via tvg( the only adw they will allow).
The first step to making this a better situation instead of bitching to the governor about their failures is to allow adw rebates to people in the state.
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OK kiddies, another beautiful handle tonight with $3,242,085.00! The weekend did $6.3 million combined for a non-Hambletonian event, with limited on-site patrons allowed in to bet live as well! Those are the actual NUMBERS, which suddenly do not mean anything to those with faulty facts.
DONT FORGET THERE WERE ELIMS FOR THE HAMBONE. SO HOW WAS IT A NON HAMBONE EVENT?
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ARE YOU AUDITIONING TO TAKE DAVE LITTLES JOB? SURE LOOKS LIKE IT.
DONT FORGET THE LIPSTICK
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Just a fact: their revenue, or handle, is such a failure that they need NJ taxpayers to bail them out. Embarrassing and wrong.
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Just a fact: their revenue, or handle, is such a failure that they need NJ taxpayers to bail them out. Embarrassing and wrong.
The Hambletonian is NEXT week, not last night. The handle last night was a NON-Hambletonian DAY card.
FUNNY IT WAS DARK OUT WHEN THEY FINISHED, BUT CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, JUST MAKE THINGS UP
FIRST YEAR OF THE RUINED HAMBLETONIAN
PERHAPS WE SHOULD CHANGE ITS MONIKER
THE TROT THAT GURAL GAVE US
THE GURALTONIAN
THE GURAL INVITATIONAL TROT HAS A NICE RING TO IT
ANOTHER PAGE OF HARNESS RACING HISTORY GETS FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET
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one of the biggest mistakes they are making is not allowing any rebates whatsoever to NJ residents via tvg( the only adw they will allow).
The first step to making this a better situation instead of bitching to the governor about their failures is to allow adw rebates to people in the state.
Actually, it’s 0.2%, or $5 for every $2500 bet.
But that’s horrible too.
They call it Wager Rewards, lol.
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HAMBO SOCIETY, THAT IS JOHN KISS ASS CAMPBELL, HE WHO HAS ONE ANSWER, NO MATTER THE QUESTION
RAISE THE PURSE. I BET THE MEDOLANDS KICKS IN A CHUNK OF THE PURSE, SO IT IS MORE THAN JUST THE VENUE
These include harness racing’s most prominent race, the Hambletonian for 3-year-old trotters, its filly division, the Hambletonian Oaks and the sport’s championship series, the Breeders Crown. Stakes and early-closing races are events where the total purse is generated by eligibility payments from horse breeders and owners as well as funds added by the sponsor, usually the race track hosting the race.
AND WHERE JEFF GETS HIS MONEY IS FROM THE TAXPAYERS OF NEW JERSEY, HOLD THE HAMBO, DO AWAY WITH A MONTH OR SO OF THE OVERNITES TO COME UP WITH THE PURSE
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What I do not like is the propaganda that their revenue makes them a success.
Do you pay taxes in NJ? If you do, part of that revenue is filtered to the meadowlands simply because their racing operation is a money losing failure. You really can't make sense as to why people have a problem with the gloating about handle?
Makes *** boy a success when he is a ZERO Hero, sing it Billy Sing it 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_DV54ddNHE
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Just a fact: their revenue, or handle, is such a failure that they need NJ taxpayers to bail them out. Embarrassing and wrong.
HANDLE WAS FLAT PROVING THE STATES BAILOUT OF GURAL LANDS IS JUST A KICKBACK FOR GURAL SPONSORING LEFT WING POLITICS . ALL THOSE TAXPAYERS MILLIONS GOING TO THE TOP 1% OF HARNESS RACINGS ELITES. GOVT FUNDING OF HARNESS RACING, A TOTAL FAILURE, ALL FUTURE FUNDING BAILOUTS SHOULD COME UNDER THE SCRUTINY OF BLM AND SEE IF IT PASSES THEIR THIER STANDARDS
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What does that say about the rest of the sport and country/continent except Hawthorne and Cal Expo?
It says the same thing.
My point was that those other tracks don't boast about their revenue then out of the other side of their mouth cry for a subsidy. Did you catch Gural groan on and on today about the subsidy?
He is going to make a ton of money with his sports book. I think that should be sufficient
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They don't have to cry about it because they are already given it. If you think they are the only one's boasting about handle, then you weren't around when Scioto was doing the same thing a few weeks ago.
Gural has ti cry about it because the subsidy was onky for 2020. It was on a prove it basis for following years.
Scioto doesn't beg for a subsidy. Not relevant to my point
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SIMPLY PUT, LAST YEAR WINS AGAIN
2019....6,501,778
2020..... 5,730,615
3/4 OF A MILLION DOLLARS SHORT FROM THE SAME DATE LAST SEASON. THAT IS A LOT OF 10 CENT SUPERS!
#GURALASSKISSERS WILL REALLY HAVE TO DIG DEEP IN EFFORTS TO SPIN THE FAILURE
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SIMPLY PUT, LAST YEAR WINS AGAIN
2019....6,501,778
2020..... 5,730,615
3/4 OF A MILLION DOLLARS SHORT FROM THE SAME DATE LAST SEASON. THAT IS A LOT OF 10 CENT SUPERS!
#GURALASSKISSERS WILL REALLY HAVE TO DIG DEEP IN EFFORTS TO SPIN THE FAILURE
They will tell you that the people who bet the meadowlands are the only people in the county who won't bet onine from home.
Watching them position post times up against saratoga was cringeworthy. They had a great opportunity to capture additional handle and totally screwed it up. What a failure.
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Good handle, improved handle. New customers, lost market share, top trainers and Vets. indicted, ... none of this means anything if you have the right politics. In politics, few things trade on their merit. Most often, political issues trade on their power. When you lose your allegiance to the current power brokers, then your in trouble.
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I’m not taking sides here, but it’s a shame so many of you can’t enjoy the races.
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5 STRAIGHT DATES, NO HANDLE AT ALL. GURAL MUST BE BROKE, BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. HEY CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT JEW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. HOPE THE GOVT CUTS OFF YOUR GRAVY TRAIN. DIG IN YOUR POCKETS FOR SOME PURSE MONEY.
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5 STRAIGHT DATES, NO HANDLE AT ALL. GURAL MUST BE BROKE, BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. HEY CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT JEW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. HOPE THE GOVT CUTS OFF YOUR GRAVY TRAIN. DIG IN YOUR POCKETS FOR SOME PURSE MONEY.
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5 STRAIGHT DATES, NO HANDLE AT ALL. GURAL MUST BE BROKE, BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. HEY CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT JEW, FUCK YOU AND YOUR BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. HOPE THE GOVT CUTS OFF YOUR GRAVY TRAIN. DIG IN YOUR POCKETS FOR SOME PURSE MONEY.
Holy Crap........ Your like a broken record
Seek professional help your constant racist rants/stalking/crying about Gural is sad and not healthy!
I REALLY DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE HANDLE NUMBER,
If you dont give a CRAP??? WHY the 3 YEARS of RANTS about HANDLE???
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LARGEST HANDLE OF THE 2020 TROTTING SEASON... BY WOODBINE/MOHAWK AND THE MEDS IS CLOSED WITH ITS PROPRIETOR CRYING FOR A HANDOUT.
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HANDLE PLUMMETS, TO A SEASONAL LOW. DOESNT LOOK GOOD TO POLITICIANS IN TRENTON TO HAVE NANCY PELOSI HOLDING UP COVID AID FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY WHILE SHE BEGS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVT TO BAIL OUT, HORRIBLY RUN, DEMOCRATIC STATE.
PLEASE PRESIDENT TRUMP, CUT OFF THE WELFARE PURSE TRAIN FOR THE MEADOWLANDS.
LET THAT RICH BASTARD JEFF GURAL BAIL OUT NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY AND THEIR LYING GOVERNORS. HE HAS IT, THE CHEAP FUCKING JEW WITH ALLYGATOR ARMS
MIND BETTORS WILL NOT SAVE THE TRACK
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WEG handle has never been this consistently high.
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LARGEST HANDLE OF THE 2020 TROTTING SEASON... BY WOODBINE/MOHAWK AND THE MEDS IS CLOSED WITH ITS PROPRIETOR CRYING FOR A HANDOUT.
No doubt Gooooofffrrrraaal lllll Inc will be asking for a handout from WEG because with Pinky Downs being closed, Mohawk would not be handling what they are 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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WEG handle has never been this consistently high.
ONCE AGAIN THEY CRUSH
MOHAWK Total Handle: $3,087,312
THE JEWS HANDLE 2.7
CONGRATS TO CANADA FOR BECOMING THE #1 TRACK IN THE SPORT IN REAL WAGERING. NOT MIND BETTORS LIKE THE
GURAL ASSKISSING ARMY,
WHICH POST HERE AND PLAY PRETEND
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$2,346,357 American.
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Good to see Woodbine/Mohawk win the handle war. They do so much more FOR THE INDUSTRY than the JERSEY JEW
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ONCE AGAIN, OUTHANDLED BY MOHAWK
2,885 K FOR KANADUH AND ONLY 2,448 K FOR THE JERSEY OUTFIT.
MIND BETTORS ONCE AGAIN PROVE THEY CANT BE TRUSTED. MAYBE THE KANNUCKS WERE THANKING CLAY HORNY FOR QUITTING AT THE WEG.
MAYBE YOU MIND BETTERS MIGHT SALUTE GURAL IN SIMILAR FASHION, IF HE GIVES UP HIS RACE TRACK PLAY TOY
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$2,184,215 American dollars.
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Demented one, Canada has stakes cards vs. overnights at the big M.
Sounds like they need stipulations now to be met in order to be considered the #1 harness track.
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Demented one, Canada has stakes cards vs. overnights at the big M.
EDZACHARY, WHY EVEN HAVE THE OVERNITE CARD?
DOES HE HAVE TO SPEND EVERY LAST NICKLE OF THE CURRENT DEBIT CARD TO PRE QUALIFY FOR NEXT YEARS ENDOWMENT?
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AN EMBARRASSING NIGHT FOR YOU MEADOWLANDS MIND BETTORS
Total Handle
$1,878,489.00
IF THAT IS ALL YOU ARE GOING TO PRETEND TO BET, WHY OPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? GURAL IS GOING TO BE PISSED
CANADAH WINS AGAIN
Total Handle
$2,279,626
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AN EMBARRASSING NIGHT FOR YOU MEADOWLANDS MIND BETTORS
Total Handle
$1,878,489.00
IF THAT IS ALL YOU ARE GOING TO PRETEND TO BET, WHY OPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? GURAL IS GOING TO BE PISSED
CANADAH WINS AGAIN
Total Handle
$2,279,626
How much of that $1.8 mln is fake/subsidized cartel wagering?
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I prefer American tracks...
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Pinky Downs had 13 races while Mohawk only had 12 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Another sad state of affairs in Knew Joerrrsssseeeyyyy y 11.wp 11.wp
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How much of that $1.8 mln is fake/subsidized cartel wagering?
All?
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All?
They used to do $5-$6 Million on routine weekends.
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This is the reason why NJ is in jeopardy of renewing the subsidies. The agreement called for and audit and review of how the taxpayer funding improved the performance and integrity of the sport/business. This is why Gural and the SOA of NJ don't mention it in their plea for funding.
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You are correct. The clowns are not happy unless they are crying.
So the meadowlands is #1 when everything goes their way?
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They are #1 95% of the time in harness racing unless big stakes programs are run elsewhere that particular weekend. Fact. "No bout a doubt it" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFOqW5EriVA
Seems like a lot of excuses
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MOHAWK...Total Handle: $3,779,461
mEADOWLANDS…….. 2,251,836
CANADUH ONLY RACED 12 DASHES, TO NEW JERSEYS 13
THE GURAL ASS KISSERS ARE OUT IN FULL EXCUSE MODE!
THEY DO A BETTER JOB OF TREATING BETTORS IN CANADADA THAN THE HEEB FROM HYMIETOWN DO
SHOULD HIS BUGGY TRACK BE OPENED DURING FOOTBALL SEASON? THE SPORTS BOOK MIGHT NEED THE PARKING SPACES FOR IT'S CUSTOMERS
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MOHAWK AND MEDS BOTH HANDLE 2.3 MILLION
MEDS DO IT IN 13 RACES
CANUCKS DO IT IN 11 AND BY THE POWERS VESTED IN ME, I DECLARE THEM THE WINNER
WAS DO THE GURAL ASS LICKERS HAVE TO SAY ABOOT DAT?
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2 million is a great number
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For that terrible card you may be right
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MOHAWK AND MEDS BOTH HANDLE 2.3 MILLION
MEDS DO IT IN 13 RACES
CANUCKS DO IT IN 11 AND BY THE POWERS VESTED IN ME, I DECLARE THEM THE WINNER
WAS DO THE GURAL ASS LICKERS HAVE TO SAY ABOOT DAT?
All right Ill bite.
1st - You have said you don't care about the Handle numbers??? Yet you posting about the numbers at 4:35am...... WOW WOW WOW.
2nd - You know you cant compare Canadian dollars vs U.S. dollars!!!
Below is a accurate comparison.
Meadowlands Mohawk
U.S. Dollar -- $2,300,000 $1,728,910
Average Per Race -- $176,923 $157,173
2 million is a great number
Agree NJ The best, those are both good numbers.......... This isn't the 70's anymore!
Why do we have to root for one track over the other?
As a fan of Harness racing I am rooting for both tracks!
AND BY THE POWERS VESTED IN ME, I DECLARE YOU A CRAZY STALKER!
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Are you saying us dollars are converted to Canadian dollars when a US resident bets mohawk through a ln adw?
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If you bet in another country it should be. If you bet in Australia they use the Kiwi, don't they?
You are wrong. Net pool pricing.
It is commingled dollars.
You dont now how many us dollars are wagered into mohahk pools. Likewise, you don't know how many Canadian dollars are wagered into meadowlands pools.
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WOODBINE WINS THE WEEKLY WAR, BY HANDLING MORE PER RACE THAN THE m DO
ARE MIND BETTING TOTALS ADDED TO THE OVERALL TOTALS, OR DO THE HAVE THEIR OWN CATEGORY? 6 DEEP X 5 DEEP X 4 DEEP X ALL X 3 DEEP.
SHOULD THERE BE A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN MIND BET ON ANY GIVEN COMBINATION?
WHEN A MIND BETTOR WHO LIVES IN THE STATES MIND BETS ON THE CANUCKIAN RACES, DOES HIS MIND BET ACCOUNT GET PAID IS US OR CANUCKIAN I O U'S?
ASKING FOR A FRIEND, WHO LISTED HIS MIND BETS IN MINIMUM DEN0MINATIONS, BUT LISTED HIS 'WINNINGS' AT THE DOLLAR FIGGER
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You are wrong. Net pool pricing.
It is commingled dollars.
You dont now how many us dollars are wagered into mohahk pools. Likewise, you don't know how many Canadian dollars are wagered into meadowlands pools.
You are correct its commingled dollars, but I dont believe a Canadian dollar bet at the Meadowlands is counted a U.S. dollar.
Watch the live money on mutli wager pools, I'll use Friday nights Pick 6 live money for the final leg.... this was the live money going into race 8, this may not be exact but I'm sure about the 1 & 10, so I believe those 2 wagers were Canadian. I have no other proof, but seems logical???
If I'm wrong & I could be, someone please explain?
EXAMPLE LIVE MONEY
1 - .15
2 - .00
3 - .60
4 - .60
5 - .00
6 - .20
7 - .20
8 - .20
9 - .00
10 - .15
Also on a side note, I don't know how much is usually wagered on track, but with the track closed tonight the pools are definitely smaller.
I guess we will see when they reopen on Saturday?
So I'll expect Exit 16W to be chiming in at 04:30???
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You are correct its commingled dollars, but I dont believe a Canadian dollar bet at the Meadowlands is counted a U.S. dollar.
Watch the live money on mutli wager pools, I'll use Friday nights Pick 6 live money for the final leg.... this was the live money going into race 8, this may not be exact but I'm sure about the 1 & 10, so I believe those 2 wagers were Canadian. I have no other proof, but seems logical???
If I'm wrong & I could be, someone please explain?
EXAMPLE LIVE MONEY
1 - .15
2 - .00
3 - .60
4 - .60
5 - .00
6 - .20
7 - .20
8 - .20
9 - .00
10 - .15
Also on a side note, I don't know how much is usually wagered on track, but with the track closed tonight the pools are definitely smaller.
I guess we will see when they reopen on Saturday?
So I'll expect Exit 16W to be chiming in at 04:30???
You are grasping at straws. And, you are wrong.
The simplest way to explain it is that whatever currency you bet is the currency you are paid. Dollars are not converted
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You are grasping at straws. And, you are wrong.
The simplest way to explain it is that whatever currency you bet is the currency you are paid. Dollars are not converted
1st I said, If I'm wrong & I could be, someone please explain?
2nd Im not grasping at straws, when it shows 15cents live money thats a fact not a straw.
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1st I said, If I'm wrong & I could be, someone please explain?
2nd Im not grasping at straws, when it shows 15cents live money thats a fact not a straw.
I explained why you are wrong. Us dollars in, us dollars out. Canadian dollars in, Canadian dollars out.
Grasping at straws - forget about on track handle. That is 25 years ago. The same people who would have bet on track are betting at home
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Who goes to the track anymore
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You are wrong. Net pool pricing.
It is commingled dollars.
You dont now how many us dollars are wagered into mohahk pools. Likewise, you don't know how many Canadian dollars are wagered into meadowlands pools.
Net Pool Pricing?
You are wrong.
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I explained why you are wrong. Us dollars in, us dollars out. Canadian dollars in, Canadian dollars out.
Grasping at straws - forget about on track handle. That is 25 years ago. The same people who would have bet on track are betting at home
I agree, Us dollars in, us dollars out. Canadian dollars in, Canadian dollars out.
I will say it a 3rd time, "If I'm wrong & I could be, someone please explain"? You still haven't explained the odd live money.... 0.15 cents live money? on a 0.20 cent wager?
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I agree, Us dollars in, us dollars out. Canadian dollars in, Canadian dollars out.
I will say it a 3rd time, "If I'm wrong & I could be, someone please explain"? You still haven't explained the odd live money.... 0.15 cents live money? on a 0.20 cent wager?
I have no idea. But its not due to mohawk converting us dollars to Canadian dollars.
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I sneak a Canadian quarter in with my other quarters when I exchange coin for paper at the bank. That's worth about .06 $ to me. Since I mostly use credit though I only cash in a quarter roll once a yr. Not a very profitable scheme. The extra six cents I bet at yonkers.
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2.4 million at mohawk Saturday night. 12 races.
And to be clear, that number includes us dollars.