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Title: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 06, 2026, 06:17:12 PM
Tim Tetrick is not relevant in 2026 grand circuit racing.
Has this changed recently? 
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 06:22:02 PM
Tim Tetrick is not relevant in 2026 grand circuit racing.
Has this changed recently?

He won the Pacing Derby in CA last night.

He's on Burke's short list.

He's doing great, make tons of dough, 90%+ of the drivers out there wish they had his talent and opportunities.

You know all this why strike up a thread we all know the answers.

Because they are facts.

Jealous TT bitches aside that is  ngc3

Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 06, 2026, 06:24:22 PM
He won the Pacing Derby in CA last night.

He's on Burke's short list.

He's doing great, make tons of dough, 90%+ of the drivers out there wish they had his talent and opportunities.

You know all this why strike up a thread we all know the answers.

Because they are facts.

Jealous TT bitches aside that is  ngc3


Last year with limited live drives in Grand Circuit races he still managed to win 9.8 million in purses, good for 4th place. On pace for 10 million this year.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 06, 2026, 06:27:01 PM
He won the Pacing Derby in CA last night.

He's on Burke's short list.

He's doing great, make tons of dough, 90%+ of the drivers out there wish they had his talent and opportunities.

You know all this why strike up a thread we all know the answers.

Because they are facts.

Jealous TT bitches aside that is  ngc3

I want to see what people post on this if they have an interest.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 06:27:58 PM
I want to see what people post on this if they have an interest.

Oh....Fact checking ploppers, what could go wrong  ngc3
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 06, 2026, 06:31:16 PM
Oh....Fact checking ploppers, what could go wrong  ngc3


One guy brought up how he wasn't getting drives in the big races, looked overweight, wasn't even on their top 10 list of drivers. How soon they forget and where are they now. He's been driving fulltime in Kentucky now too where he wasn't the past 2 years and has picked up alot of live drives.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 07:01:35 PM
He'll be 45 in 2 months.

Takes a fair amount of athleticism (and wisdom).

Great job TT, that's endurance! 

Young driver's should see that at as a chance of a 25 year career where you can still be on top...if the racing luck, good health cards fall in place.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 06, 2026, 07:03:08 PM
He'll be 45 in 2 months.

Takes a fair amount of athleticism (and wisdom).

Great job TT, that's endurance! 

Young driver's should see that at as a chance of a 25 year career where you can still be on top...if the racing luck, good health cards fall in place.


Plus he's had both hips replaced.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 07:04:26 PM

Plus he's had both hips replaced.

"Bionic Man" fits  ngc3
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 06, 2026, 07:35:52 PM
Who would you rather have now over Tim Tetrick?

Scotty Z
Chris Page
Ronnie Wren. Jr.
Matt Kakaley
Braxton Boyd

Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 07:38:56 PM
Who would you rather have now over Tim Tetrick?

Scotty Z
Chris Page
Ronnie Wren. Jr.
Matt Kakaley
Braxton Boyd

Today, Brady Brown, Mr. 6% million dollar man  ngc3 took Andrew McCarthy and the better horse to school, along with JMac and everyone else in a $300k... ngc3
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 07:40:36 PM
Fuck Scotty Z on trotters...what he did to Meshuggah until the Crown was a sin  ngc3 he's on my list forever.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 06, 2026, 07:41:07 PM
Today, Brady Brown, Mr. 6% million dollar man  ngc3 took Andrew McCarthy and the better horse to school, along with JMac and everyone else in a $300k... ngc3

I would only take Zeron over Tetrick on a trotter, forget the other drivers. How did Boyd and Kakaley even make the list?
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: andrew on September 06, 2026, 07:49:08 PM
Who would you rather have now over Tim Tetrick?

Scotty Z
Chris Page
Ronnie Wren. Jr.
Matt Kakaley
Braxton Boyd



Q///A you know boyd wont  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 06, 2026, 07:53:55 PM
Fuck Scotty Z on trotters...what he did to Meshuggah until the Crown was a sin  ngc3 he's on my list forever.


He seems to do better with trotters, personally I'm not crazy about his driving style on anything and alot of people think he's top 2 or 3 which I totally disagree with. I think he's too passive of a driver. Of course, Pisser2 will probably respond with the usual, think you can do any better?
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 06, 2026, 08:31:06 PM
Q///A you know boyd wont  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Thanks fir ruining a legitimate thread yet again!!
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 08:32:39 PM

He seems to do better with trotters, personally I'm not crazy about his driving style on anything and alot of people think he's top 2 or 3 which I totally disagree with. I think he's too passive of a driver. Of course, Pisser2 will probably respond with the usual, think you can do any better?

Considering his level of competition, not bad at all.


               Starts Win   ROI
Pacers   597   12   -41%
Trotters   456   13   -17%
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: captaintreacherous on September 06, 2026, 08:36:16 PM
Top Baseball players. 25 Million per year

Top Basketball players  25 million per year

Top Jockeys   $5 Million per year




Top Harness Drivers. $500,000


less all their expenses..deduct taxes, insurance etc


Maybe $340,000 Annual


For a Top  in your sport.....


Pitiful



not sayin I make more or less....just pale in comparison to
other sports



Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: andrew on September 06, 2026, 08:40:29 PM
Thanks fir ruining a legitimate thread yet again!!

you did ask

i did answer

nothing more///nothing less
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: JT on September 06, 2026, 08:44:33 PM
Who would you rather have now over Tim Tetrick?

Scotty Z
Chris Page
Ronnie Wren. Jr.
Matt Kakaley
Braxton Boyd
None of the above
And I really like Page and Ronnie seeing as I am in Ohio
If I ever got back into ownership in Ohio..
I'd want one of those 2 to drive for me tmbz1
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Dingus on September 06, 2026, 08:48:13 PM
Today, Brady Brown, Mr. 6% million dollar man  ngc3 took Andrew McCarthy and the better horse to school, along with JMac and everyone else in a $300k... ngc3

He’s at 9% and my trainer uses him all the time because he doesn’t abuse the horses he drives.
Plus, he’s never been suspended even 1 day for dangerous driving, locking wheels, etc.
He holds his own against Palone, Wrenn, Merriman, and Wilder without getting the favored horses.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 08:51:23 PM
None of the above
And I really like Page and Ronnie seeing as I am in Ohio
If I ever got back into ownership in Ohio..
I'd want one of those 2 to drive for me tmbz1

We should partner on at least one t-bred and standardbred that makes it to the wc.

JT Sweet Stable

Spring and Summer in Ohio
Fall and Winter in Florida

I also want the stable to own their mares and sires...just in case  tmbz1

5 year project.  Bring good trainers in as JR partners.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 08:52:09 PM
He’s at 9% and my trainer uses him all the time because he doesn’t abuse the horses he drives.
Plus, he’s never been suspended even 1 day for dangerous driving, locking wheels, etc.
He holds his own against Palone, Wrenn, Merriman, and Wilder without getting the favored horses.

           Starts Win% ROI
Pacers   740   6   -57%
Trotters   670   12   -39%

Hope he wins for ya!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Dingus on September 06, 2026, 09:23:19 PM
           Starts Win% ROI
Pacers   740   6   -57%
Trotters   670   12   -39%

Hope he wins for ya!  tmbz1

Thanks.  Didn’t know he’s much better with trotters though.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 06, 2026, 09:24:30 PM
Thanks.  Didn’t know he’s much better with trotters though.

Our math was good. 
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 07, 2026, 12:41:56 AM
you did ask

i did answer

nothing more///nothing less

Why don’t you actually post legitimate racing answers on real threads instead of ruining threads here?


Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 07, 2026, 08:01:45 AM
you did ask

i did answer

nothing more///nothing less

To quote an unnamed poster, people post, people respond; which is exactly what you did, and you were polite too!
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: andrew on September 07, 2026, 01:12:27 PM
Why don’t you actually post legitimate racing answers on real threads instead of ruining threads here?



i did post a legitimate answer about boyd. i could have said same what he said in case you may have forgot 
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: andrew on September 07, 2026, 01:13:12 PM
To quote an unnamed poster, people post, people respond; which is exactly what you did, and you were polite too!

thankyou and so correct
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 07, 2026, 11:37:55 PM
thankyou and so correct

Sorry we agree to disagree!
Thanx for posting
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 07, 2026, 11:46:00 PM
Sorry we agree to disagree!
Thanx for posting

Why don't you tell him you're madly in love with him.

That you spend more time with him other than yourself than any person on planet earth.

Say it already!

Andrew, I love you!

You'll feel better...then you can work on expressing yourself like a good boyfriend and not a pugilist  ngc3
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 08, 2026, 12:01:53 AM
Who would you rather have now over Tim Tetrick?

Scotty Z
Chris Page
Ronnie Wren. Jr.
Matt Kakaley
Braxton Boyd

Not in overnight races, Scotty Z, in some cases. In others, TT. Except with regular overnights, claimers, I would not take the other 4 over TT. Tim can still drive. All depends on what's between the shafts.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 08, 2026, 11:21:03 AM
Why don't you tell him you're madly in love with him.

That you spend more time with him other than yourself than any person on planet earth.

Say it already!

Andrew, I love you!

You'll feel better...then you can work on expressing yourself like a good boyfriend and not a pugilist  ngc3

Thanks for ruining this thread!
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Trigger on September 08, 2026, 11:23:07 AM
Thanks for ruining this thread!
No competition for you, grand fucking wizard of ruining a FORUM  ngc3

I was the first to contribute in your wonderful thread here, and interacted in kind on the subject matter....you're welcome  ngc3

We all take a liberty once in a while  tmbz1  You take the whole fucking statue  ngc3
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 08, 2026, 11:25:16 AM
No competition for you, grand fucking wizard of ruining a FORUM  ngc3

I was the first to contribute in your wonderful thread here, and interacted in kind on the subject matter....you're welcome  ngc3

We all take a liberty once in a while  tmbz1  You take the whole fucking statue  ngc3

Thanks for your opinion on this matter.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 08, 2026, 12:05:50 PM
I can't speak to a specific quote/post, but there certainly were some people who felt TT, his skills, career, etc., were far less than they used to be. His numbers were lower, but IMO not his skills. Just a function of his business and a convergence of circumstances. It happens. His first call trainers had a few slow years, so, he did too. Compound that with the drivers colony getting a new face or three, younger drivers coming in, and sliding numbers, and next thing you know even his first call trainers are looking elsewhere. Now you are longer price horses, less competitive, etc. Slippery slope. IMO TT can still drive competitively with whoever is out there. He may not get to be first choice any longer, and his #'s will reflect that.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 08, 2026, 12:11:50 PM
I can't speak to a specific quote/post, but there certainly were some people who felt TT, his skills, career, etc., were far less than they used to be. His numbers were lower, but IMO not his skills. Just a function of his business and a convergence of circumstances. It happens. His first call trainers had a few slow years, so, he did too. Compound that with the drivers colony getting a new face or three, younger drivers coming in, and sliding numbers, and next thing you know even his first call trainers are looking elsewhere. Now you are longer price horses, less competitive, etc. Slippery slope. IMO TT can still drive competitively with whoever is out there. He may not get to be first choice any longer, and his #'s will reflect that.


Even though everything you say is accurate, his earnings in 2024 were 8.9 million, good for 9th place, 9.8 million in 2025, good for 4th, and 6.9 million so far this year, good for 4th place.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Kirby's Ace on September 08, 2026, 12:19:11 PM
Let's face it..When the Fishman juice supply got cut so did a lot of Tims "live": drives.

Enter Dunn and now he's no longer the big dog and has lost "Live" drives.

A lot of the "Big" boys from back then are only average at best nowadays.

jmo
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: ScrapeThePaint on September 08, 2026, 12:30:14 PM
He’s at 9% and my trainer uses him all the time because he doesn’t abuse the horses he drives.
Plus, he’s never been suspended even 1 day for dangerous driving, locking wheels, etc.
He holds his own against Palone, Wrenn, Merriman, and Wilder without getting the favored horses.

BRADY BROWN IS THE MAN!!!!! Good CHRISTIAN FAMILY MAN! GLAD YOU USE HIM! GOOD PEOPLE!
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 08, 2026, 01:08:13 PM

Even though everything you say is accurate, his earnings in 2024 were 8.9 million, good for 9th place, 9.8 million in 2025, good for 4th, and 6.9 million so far this year, good for 4th place.

Absolutely!!! I agree completely! His #'s are still very good! I was only speaking to the nay-sayers.
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: rainman2 on September 08, 2026, 01:27:43 PM
Absolutely!!! I agree completely! His #'s are still very good! I was only speaking to the nay-sayers.

Tetrick should be more of a factor as he is getting some of the more lively Burke drives.  He’s doing well
Title: Re: Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that said…
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 08, 2026, 10:04:46 PM
While they don't have agents and "manage" their own business, I think TT will continue to do well. He's had to drive a lot to be in the top 10, and top 5 of money won, but that's what they have to do to get their business back going. TT is what, third on the all-time money list, will soon pass John Campbell, and only Dave Miller is ahead of him. He's gotta be approaching 15,000 wins and other one year, in the last 5 he's still top 5. A lot of people just knock. They live on negativity. I like TT and think he's still a top driver.
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