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Title: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: wizardofoz on September 02, 2026, 07:58:09 PM

 
RACE 10 - Pocono Downs At Mohegan Pennsylvania - PA - September 7, 2026
Conditions: "Pennsylvania Sire Stakes Championship" 2 Yr. Old Colts & Geldings
Gait: PacePurse: 300,000 Class: PASS Final Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 3:42 PM
 
PP    Horse   Med   2026 North America YTD    Driver    Trainer   ML   Claim
    Equip   Sts    W    P    S    Time    Earnings         Stable   Odds   Price
1    Shalom Hanover
       5     5     0     0     1:49.2F     $160276     Louis Roy    Dr. Ian Moore   5-2   
2    Stonebridge Blitz
     5     0     1     2     Q1:56.1M     $26292     Yannick Gingras    Ron Burke   15-1   
3    Loud Luxury
    L    6     1     1     2     1:55.2F     $60579     Tim Tetrick    Ron Burke   12-1   
4    Mascarpone
       5     2     1     0     1:51.0S     $78317     Scott Zeron    Dr. Ian Moore   4-1   
5    Hard Four
   7     1     4     0     1:50.1M     $79088     Dexter Dunn    Vernon Beachy   6-1   
6    Atomix Hanover
   L    7     3     2     1     1:51.4F     $65863     Anthony Macdonald    Tim Twaddle   10-1   
7    Eastie Boy
   6     2     2     0     1:50.2F     $127462     Ronnie Wrenn Jr.    Ron Burke   5-1   
8    Starstruck Dreamer
    5     5     0     0     1:48.4F     $143000     Todd McCarthy    Noel Daley   3-1   
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: wizardofoz on September 03, 2026, 12:50:01 AM
COLT PACE (race 10): Of all the weekend’s Sire Stakes Championships, this race will generate the most interest from serious students of the sulky sport, as it matches up two colts who are undefeated in their first five races: Shalom Hanover (trainer Dr. Ian Moore, driver Louis Roy), who set a track record 1:49.2 in his previous appearance here, and Starstruck Dreamer (there’s trainer Noel Daley again, with Andrew McCarthy’s brother Todd driving), who won three PaSS prelims and paced the fastest mile ever by a 2-year-old on a five-eighth mile track, 1:48.4 at Philly.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: SeattleSlew on September 03, 2026, 04:54:38 AM
COLT PACE (race 10): Of all the weekend’s Sire Stakes Championships, this race will generate the most interest from serious students of the sulky sport, as it matches up two colts who are undefeated in their first five races: Shalom Hanover (trainer Dr. Ian Moore, driver Louis Roy), who set a track record 1:49.2 in his previous appearance here, and Starstruck Dreamer (there’s trainer Noel Daley again, with Andrew McCarthy’s brother Todd driving), who won three PaSS prelims and paced the fastest mile ever by a 2-year-old on a five-eighth mile track, 1:48.4 at Philly.

Should be a blazer as I am sure AMac will fire and not yield in this one.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: PineHurstPacer on September 03, 2026, 05:55:31 AM
If they had wagering for who finishes 8th, AM is 1-9

The fact He believes he can compete against grand circuit drivers shows he is either dumb as a box of rocks, or a complete narcissist.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Harness racer on September 04, 2026, 06:28:28 PM
B.  Complete narcissist  ngc3
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: seen2much on September 04, 2026, 08:46:19 PM
Pocono had good racing and prices...their last stakes day. I'm hoping for the same tomorrow.
I have not bet much of late. The little I bet at Pocono went into the trash.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: seen2much on September 05, 2026, 07:12:35 AM
Pocono had good racing and prices...their last stakes day. I'm hoping for the same tomorrow.
I have not bet much of late. The little I bet at Pocono went into the trash.
The races are on Monday.
My Bag
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 05, 2026, 08:19:45 AM
The races are on Monday.
My Bag

Harrah's Philly has the 3 year PASS finals on Sunday.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: JT on September 05, 2026, 09:18:16 AM
Interesting that Pennsylvania split up its big finals to 2 different days and 2 different tracks even. Ohio has 1 big super night with all sire stakes finals and they alternate between Scioto and Northfield. This year its at Scioto on Saturday 9/12
Also huge grand circuit races as well. Carl Milstein Memorial Pace for older horses always draws a nice field.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Kenny on September 05, 2026, 09:21:10 AM
Pocono had good racing and prices...their last stakes day. I'm hoping for the same tomorrow.
I have not bet much of late. The little I bet at Pocono went into the trash.

But no one shows up to actually watch it!
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 05, 2026, 09:23:25 AM
Interesting that Pennsylvania split up its big finals to 2 different days and 2 different tracks even. Ohio has 1 big super night with all sire stakes finals and they alternate between Scioto and Northfield. This year its at Scioto on Saturday 9/12
Also huge grand circuit races as well. Carl Milstein Memorial Pace for older horses always draws a nice field.

They've always rotated the finals among the 3 tracks. The Meadows has the Stallion Series Finals today.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: JT on September 05, 2026, 09:28:33 AM
They've always rotated the finals among the 3 tracks. The Meadows has the Stallion Series Finals today.
Gotcha.. the buckeye stallion series finals I think are at Northfield in October.
That's one level below sire stakes.. it just seems odd to me that all the PASS finals are split between 2 tracks 2 different days.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Onthefront11 on September 05, 2026, 01:25:27 PM
Shalom will jog
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: seen2much on September 06, 2026, 06:41:25 AM
Harrah's Philly has the 3 year PASS finals on Sunday.
Interesting...thanks
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: wizardofoz on September 07, 2026, 04:44:39 PM
Shalom won it in 1:49:2 by a head as the 2nd choice to boot! Now 6 for 6.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: captaintreacherous on September 07, 2026, 04:51:57 PM
You cannot beat a Trainer like Ian Moore


He is light years ahead of all these schmos


had the rail.  would have won from post 22
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: seen2much on September 07, 2026, 05:27:04 PM
A solid drive by Roy. He stretched out his foe, had confidence to sit the pocket, and closed up the inside...for the win.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 07, 2026, 05:35:41 PM
A solid drive by Roy. He stretched out his foe, had confidence to sit the pocket, and closed up the inside...for the win.
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Think if the posts were reversed, the outcome would have been different.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: COUNSELOR on September 07, 2026, 05:51:34 PM
Both great two year old.   Great trainers.   Great drivers.  Fun to watch. 
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: SeattleSlew on September 08, 2026, 04:27:27 AM
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Think if the posts were reversed, the outcome would have been different.

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Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Kenny on September 08, 2026, 08:21:08 AM
You cannot beat a Trainer like Ian Moore


He is light years ahead of all these schmos


had the rail.  would have won from post 22

"He's a vet".
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Lance on September 08, 2026, 09:38:46 AM
"He's a vet".

He is a vet, but also a great trainer.  He's been training and driving horses for over 50 years.  He's a great all round horseman.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Onthefront11 on September 08, 2026, 03:41:01 PM
Lock of the year
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Kenny on September 08, 2026, 05:54:33 PM
He is a vet, but also a great trainer.  He's been training and driving horses for over 50 years.  He's a great all round horseman.

With "he's a vet" help.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 08, 2026, 09:55:58 PM
Both talented colts.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 08, 2026, 09:57:19 PM
Both talented colts.

Probably meet in the Metro Pace later this month.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 08, 2026, 10:15:54 PM
I didn't think Starstruck was eligible. I thought Steve Wienick said they were pointing toward the Red Mile. I'll go check the list of eligibles.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 08, 2026, 10:17:13 PM
I didn't think Starstruck was eligible. I thought Steve Wienick said they were pointing toward the Red Mile. I'll go check the list of eligibles.


I didn't realize, just assumed he was.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Mazola on September 08, 2026, 10:19:41 PM
With "he's a vet" help.

Starstruck doesn't have a vet?
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 08, 2026, 10:23:46 PM
Shalom is on the list and Starstruck is not. Too bad. I am sure if Shalom goes to the Metro, then heads to Lexington for Bluegrass and the International, and then on to the Breeders Crown, some people will criticize Moore for over-racing him, being greedy, and/or being inept, LOL. Let's not forget, he's a vet. He's bald too. Overweight too, right? LOL.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on September 08, 2026, 10:27:10 PM
Shalom is on the list and Starstruck is not. Too bad. I am sure if Shalom goes to the Metro, then heads to Lexington for Bluegrass and the International, and then on to the Breeders Crown, some people will criticize Moore for over-racing him, being greedy, and/or being inept, LOL. Let's not forget, he's a vet. He's bald too. Overweight too, right? LOL.

Also has a mustache. Starstruck is probably eligible for the Final 4 race for 2 year olds at Meadowlands after the Breeders Crown.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 09, 2026, 11:25:57 AM
I have no direct knowledge of what each of the connections have planned between now and then, but I would suspect if nothing goes wrong, the BC is the target for both. Put and "X" on the date of the BC and work backward. I did hear that Shalom is targeting the Metro, which seems like the obvious next target. Given Starstruck is not eligible, something at home or Lexington seems like the next stop or two on the road to the BC. Both very nice colts.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 09, 2026, 07:59:13 PM
I think what might have been overlooked here-----even though it wasn't a real betting race/opportunity-----is that even with the outside post, and Shalom having the rail, Starstruck still went off the favorite. Sure, it was 1-2 vs. even money, LOL, but still the favorite. Post position was definitely a factor.

Moore has said the Metro is next for Shalom, and Noel hasn't said where he's going with Starstruck, but if nothing goes wrong, these two will meet again in the BC.
Title: Re: Shalom vs Starstruck---post 1 vs 8!
Post by: G on September 10, 2026, 10:11:45 AM
I have no direct knowledge of what each of the connections have planned between now and then, but I would suspect if nothing goes wrong, the BC is the target for both. Put and "X" on the date of the BC and work backward. I did hear that Shalom is targeting the Metro, which seems like the obvious next target. Given Starstruck is not eligible, something at home or Lexington seems like the next stop or two on the road to the BC. Both very nice colts.
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