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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: yonkersfan 1 on August 27, 2026, 07:45:25 PM
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Guess I will have to show proof
8/24 Race 2 PP 2
8/24 Race 3 PP 3
8/27 Race 2 PP 1
8/27 Race 9 PP 1
8/29 Race 2 PP 5
8/29 Race 7 PP 5
8/31 Race 1 PP 1
9/1 Race 9 PP 2
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Guess I will have to show proof
8/24 Race 2 PP 2
8/24 Race 3 PP 3
8/27 Race 2 PP 1
8/27 Race 9 PP 1
8/29 Race 2 PP 5
8/29 Race 7 PP 5
8/31 Race 1 PP 1
9/1 Race 9 PP 2
Lets see your proof!
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I am providing it by listing PPs for claiming races for Dennis Laterza. What other proof can I provide. Its impossible to continually draw these inside posts especially the rail.
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I will continually post.
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I had a horse the drew the 7 hole 5 weeks in a row in a 9 horse field . I complained to the race secretary ( who was a crook and bettor to begin with ) told me it’s all computer generated. I said the odds for my horse to draw that 5 weeks in a row would be astronomical. The next 3 weeks again , all 7 hole ! 8 weeks in a row . Definitely fix the draws when they want to !
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(1/9)^5 = 0.00169%
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Guess I will have to show proof
8/24 Race 2 PP 2
8/24 Race 3 PP 3
8/27 Race 2 PP 1
8/27 Race 9 PP 1
8/29 Race 2 PP 5
8/29 Race 7 PP 5
8/31 Race 1 PP 1
9/1 Race 9 PP 2
its bad enough that you're racing for second place money because of the gas trainers- i know it was when i raced against dowse and engblom. but people just shrugged their shoulders helplessly
but this?
this isnt gas trainers, this is the RACE OFFICE!
these are the ones that are supposedto INSURE INTEGRITY AND FAIR PLAY.
Its not funny anymore...
And it was NEVER funny
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its bad enough that you're racing for second place money because of the gas trainers- i know i was when i raced against dowse and engblom. but people just shrugged their shoulders helplessly
but this?
this isnt gas trainers, this is the RACE OFFICE!
these are the ones that are supposedto INSURE INTEGRITY AND FAIR PLAY.
Its not funny anymore...
And it was NEVER funny
The Meadows does live draws on YouTube.
Tell the NYGC to do the same for all their tracks.
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my first horse I ever owned-raced her 80+ times, never drew the rail. watched my friends horses draw the rail 3 week in a row!
Frustrating? hell yes!
Harness racing has not been helped by scandals in racing offices. Yonkers and Batavia being the most recent.
Chicago in its heyday? maybe some old timers can chime in on this.
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just laterza ?
doug dilloin jr or however you spell and his shady owners brian ira wallach get all the claims along with dennis laterza. he religiously draws inside , always in the 1st couple races every night . look at monday . 1st , 2nd , 3rd race . wish i had that power at my track
could be 5 claims on 1 horse , and magically laterza gets it every time . it’s impossible
then we have the mind boggling per engblom episode , makes 15 million in purses while under 3 year appeal for morphine, finally lost 2 appeals and has to serve days now , but nope brother goes down as trainer on 130 horses like nothing happened . will continue to steal millions from people . beat goes on !
the whole show is ridiculous
just glad i don’t race at that corrupt racetrack
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just glad i don’t race at that corrupt racetrack
So are they!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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You must be new, I would bet that it's happened at a draws at every track. If you don't, you live in a dream world.
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Safely secured those stalls at the track under his buddy and race secretary. Doug Dill non factor outside of claimers that are gassed and imports with the other owner.
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THE HEAD OF THE NYS GAMING COMMISSION INVESTIGATION UNIT IS NOW INVESTIGATING THIS CASE.
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The new head of the NYS racing commission is not heading ANY investigations I can tell you that. HE is under investigation folks and the walls are closing in. Believe me I understand 95% of everything on here is for entertainment and bullshit. But Anthony Clark's days are numbered. You want a winning bet? Bet all that you want in that !
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The draws are not fixed thats a fairy tale from conspiracy theorists! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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The draws are not fixed thats a fairy tale from conspiracy theorists! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Then why won’t they show them live online like the Meadows does?
https://www.youtube.com/@TheMeadowsRacing
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Its not Anthony Clarke
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If they were fixed at Yonkers, I would hope they would help Stratton out but no dice. My horses regularly draw outside including the 8 hole last night for a 0 chance trip.
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The name of head of investigations is Mat Mcqueen. Clark is involved with the investigation judges only.
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The head of investigations is Mat Mcqueen. Clark investigates judges only.
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Then why won’t they show them live online like the Meadows does?
https://www.youtube.com/@TheMeadowsRacing
They shouldnt have to. Most can be watched at the track. Only real idiots think its fixed. I've participated in many. NO FIX ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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That was before the electronic draw about 8 years ago.
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How can anyone be that lucky ???
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How can anyone be that lucky ???
I can't imagine .
But then again, certain trainers are in the publics crosshairs because of their newfound success.....
Dennis Laterza has been a mediocre trainer for a very long time. ..
It's like Damn Yankees- making a deal with the devil for success.....
Are there "average joe" trainers that have had thst kind of luck?
I doubt it....
The only one that came close to that kind of run was mentioned on Plop a couple of years ago - CS.
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The same idiots think the football coin toss is fixed! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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The same idiots think the football coin toss is fixed! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
tmbz1
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I am in the Yonkers race office all the time I'm very good friends with the race secretary and the assistant. I can assure you that there's no monkey business going on. By the way it's the judges that draw the races not the race office,,, a horsemen is always present watching over the draw.
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I am in the Yonkers race office all the time I'm very good friends with the race secretary and the assistant. I can assure you that there's no monkey business going on. By the way it's the judges that draw the races not the race office,,, a horsemen is always present watching over the draw.
Races can be drawn without a horseman present since they are done by computer.
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If you've lost faith in the integrity department and you don't have a grade A pharmaceutical closet there's only two remedies for the problems....A new boat and a fishing pole! You'll be able to toss your blood pressure meds in the trash can too!
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Guess I will have to show proof
8/24 Race 2 PP 2
8/24 Race 3 PP 3
8/27 Race 2 PP 1
8/27 Race 9 PP 1
8/29 Race 2 PP 5
8/29 Race 7 PP 5
8/31 Race 1 PP 1
9/1 Race 9 PP 2
I asked AI the odds of this in an 8 horse field
Assuming you are putting the chosen number back into the hat before each new draw (with replacement), the odds of picking a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 eight times in a row are 390,625 to 16,386,591 against (or approximately a 2.33% chance).
So, 2.3% chance it's legit,
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I asked AI the odds of this in an 8 horse field
Assuming you are putting the chosen number back into the hat before each new draw (with replacement), the odds of picking a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 eight times in a row are 390,625 to 16,386,591 against (or approximately a 2.33% chance).
So, 2.3% chance it's legit,
That is not what it means. That is just the probability. That suggests out of 100 time this situation could happen over 2 times.
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That is not what it means. That is just the probability. That suggests out of 100 time this situation could happen over 2 times.
ban this poster for being stupid
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Guess I will have to show proof
8/24 Race 2 PP 2
8/24 Race 3 PP 3
8/27 Race 2 PP 1
8/27 Race 9 PP 1
8/29 Race 2 PP 5
8/29 Race 7 PP 5
8/31 Race 1 PP 1
9/1 Race 9 PP 2
Since your "great" undercover work here are Laterza's posts at Yonkers from 9/2 though 9/9. Thoughts now?
Post 1-2x
Post 2-2x
Post 3-0x
Post 4-2x
Post 5-2x
Post 6-1x
Post 7-1x
Post 8-4x.
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Since your "great" undercover work here are Laterza's posts at Yonkers from 9/2 though 9/9. Thoughts now?
Post 1-2x
Post 2-2x
Post 3-0x
Post 4-2x
Post 5-2x
Post 6-1x
Post 7-1x
Post 8-4x.
It doesn't negate the week before.
Maybe they felt Plop heat and decided to play it straight LOL
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It doesn't negate the week before.
Maybe they felt Plop heat and decided to play it straight LOL
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I've known Mat Mcqueen for years a very sharp guy and a good friend of mine. He would not tolerate this kind of bullshit
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heard from USTA they use https://www.random.org/ to draw post positions.
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heard from USTA they use https://www.random.org/ to draw post positions.
Yes and that system is excellent.
HOWEVER-----In the Judges office the FACT A Judge has already been caught and fired before proves the point for rigging draws: the random computer draw system is only as honest as the people holding the keys to the race office
Every single manual override or change made in the software leaves a digital fingerprint (user ID, timestamp, and action).
When "nobody checks," a rogue judge can get away with it short-term, but a formal commission investigation is typically what pulls those server logs to catch them.
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Yes and that system is excellent.
HOWEVER-----In the Judges office the FACT A Judge has already been caught and fired before proves the point for rigging draws: the random computer draw system is only as honest as the people holding the keys to the race office
Every single manual override or change made in the software leaves a digital fingerprint (user ID, timestamp, and action).
When "nobody checks," a rogue judge can get away with it short-term, but a formal commission investigation is typically what pulls those server logs to catch them.
I partly agree with this however if you're referring to Nick he was framed.
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I partly agree with this however if you're referring to Nick he was framed.
The prisons are full of guilty people who were framed.
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thank you for verifying the info Bond, great info. in regards to being framed, the computer logs, audit trails and keystroke audits don't lie.
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thank you for verifying the info Bond, great info. in regards to being framed, the computer logs, audit trails and keystroke audits don't lie.
Everyone "G" claims to know were not guilty and were framed.
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thank you for verifying the info Bond, great info. in regards to being framed, the computer logs, audit trails and keystroke audits don't lie.
tmbz1
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Yes and that system is excellent.
HOWEVER-----In the Judges office the FACT A Judge has already been caught and fired before proves the point for rigging draws: the random computer draw system is only as honest as the people holding the keys to the race office
Every single manual override or change made in the software leaves a digital fingerprint (user ID, timestamp, and action).
When "nobody checks," a rogue judge can get away with it short-term, but a formal commission investigation is typically what pulls those server logs to catch them.
As far as rigging, if you watch the Meadows draw, there are certain races where the draw is handicapped.
Examples are: 2 year olds draw inside, and claiming handicap races, and they will set up 2 or more mini draws within the race. Easy to assign certain trainers the draw for the inside posts with the system.
Not saying it is happening, but it’s available.
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Was a non factor for 30 years.
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Was a non factor for 30 years.
Indeed!
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Yonkers = corrupt cesspool ngc3
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Sinc the investigation started Laterza hasn't drawn the rail in a claiming race.
Thats after near 30 percent through 9/1
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Yonkers = corrupt cesspool ngc3
You have quite an imagination = ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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You have quite an imagination = ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
At least they have a brain, unlike feces you.
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Races can be drawn without a horseman present since they are done by computer.
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Electronic draw. No horseman.
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Electronic draw. No horseman.
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Was a non factor for 30 years.
that was then, this is now!
times change.
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At least they have a brain, unlike feces you.
You're too DUMBASS to talk about brains DINGBAT!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Keep supporting your racists and bigots DUMMY!
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You're too DUMBASS to talk about brains DINGBAT!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Keep supporting your racists and bigots DUMMY!
Please tell me where I have supported racists and bigots without being a smart aleck.
Let’s be cordial on this solemn day, please.
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GO CHECK THE USTA WEBSITE FOR THIS WEEK
LOOK AT CLAIMING RACES WHERE DENNIS LATERZA IS ENTERED
HE IS GIVEN THE RAIL MOST RACES IN THE PRIVATE PP DRAW
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Some of you cowardly people who race there should step up. Write to the commission with the facts.
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Ex-presiding judge was practically led out in handcuffs, told to just disappear and never resurface. The long-time rumor was that he was manipulating the post draw. Personally I believe it.
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Clark is now in charge of the judges.
Its Mcqueen.
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His number is 518 388 4862
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Looks like he did it last and tonight . Multiple claims on horses and he wins the shake .. lighting striking has a better chance
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They're defrauding everyone who drops in tbe box, lot of jail time coming.
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SO CALL MAT MCQUEEN AND PUT SOME PRESSURE ON HIM TO MOVE THE INVESTIGATION ALONG. THE 518 AREA CODE NUMBER ABOVE.
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What are the odds To pull your number out of 4 and 6 claims repeatedly? Nobody’s that lucky .
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What do you mean no one, he is.