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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: macdaddi on June 27, 2026, 08:52:36 AM
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always bet on me was 0 for 13 and 12-1 on the program the burkes bought him why? a 154 horse in eric neal barn
first race for burkes win easy on lead from 7 post 121.2 to 3/4 !!! coasting home in 149.3
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Burke has more drugs than El Chapo and all of Mexico . Always juices his horses and always will ! Complete P.O.S drug using scumbag ! A horse just doesn’t improve by 5 seconds and 20 lengths without some really really good drugs .
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Burke has more drugs than El Chapo and all of Mexico . Always juices his horses and always will ! Complete P.O.S drug using scumbag ! A horse just doesn’t improve by 5 seconds and 20 lengths without some really really good drugs .
Proof?
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Goes from eric neal driving and training to burke training and Andrew Macarthy driving. That is enough. Doesnt need drugs. That is only the beginning for this horse.He can go faster
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Burke has more drugs than El Chapo and all of Mexico . Always juices his horses and always will ! Complete P.O.S drug using scumbag ! A horse just doesn’t improve by 5 seconds and 20 lengths without some really really good drugs .
You must be on some good drugs!
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Goes from eric neal driving and training to burke training and Andrew Macarthy driving. That is enough. Doesnt need drugs. That is only the beginning for this horse.He can go faster
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Proof?
Please name any other horse that has improved 5 seconds off a trainer change, without making a break in it's previous start. We'll wait for your response. Also, could you please post the total number of positives Ron Burke has accumulated throughout his checkered training career. Again, we'll wait for your response.
Sincerely, Silent One
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Please name any other horse that has improved 5 seconds off a trainer change, without making a break in it's previous start. We'll wait for your response. Also, could you please post the total number of positives Ron Burke has accumulated throughout his checkered training career. Again, we'll wait for your response.
Sincerely, Silent One
I've seen tons of horses improve 4-5 seconds. Pay more attention dude.
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I've seen tons of horses improve 4-5 seconds. Pay more attention dude.
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always bet on me was 0 for 13 and 12-1 on the program the burkes bought him why? a 154 horse in eric neal barn
first race for burkes win easy on lead from 7 post 121.2 to 3/4 !!! coasting home in 149.3
Burke doesn't know anything else. He talks a lot of shit. The minions buy in. Ron is and always will be a cheater.
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As a trainer who has won multiple track championships I can tell you that Burke it's one hell of a trainer. I give the man credit he's done a hell of a job
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Burke has more drugs than El Chapo and all of Mexico . Always juices his horses and always will ! Complete P.O.S drug using scumbag ! A horse just doesn’t improve by 5 seconds and 20 lengths without some really really good drugs .
Got positive tests for many different drugs. A chemist that trains horses.
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Please name any other horse that has improved 5 seconds off a trainer change, without making a break in it's previous start. We'll wait for your response. Also, could you please post the total number of positives Ron Burke has accumulated throughout his checkered training career. Again, we'll wait for your response.
Sincerely, Silent One
That is not evidence of anything, it is just hate. The horse when to the barn of the most successful trainer of all time and had a grade circuit driver.
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Burke doesn't know anything else. He talks a lot of shit. The minions buy in. Ron is and always will be a cheater.
Proof? Please tell us how many times you have met Burke.
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Got positive tests for many different drugs. A chemist that trains horses.
He had 5555 starts last year and 1129 wins. That is a huge number of tests. Many trainers have a small number of positives. The Burke positives have at lease a plausible explanation. I don't just hate, I analyze the facts and circumstances around the positives.
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All his positives must of been contamination ngc3
I can't stop smoking horse peds while thinking how jelly I am of Burke ngc3
I don't see how any of his employees, suppliers, anyone come in his barns could resist not sparking, spiking up too ngc3
Clean as a whistle... ;D
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That is not evidence of anything, it is just hate. The horse when to the barn of the most successful trainer of all time and had a grade circuit driver.
He's been exposed as a hater making up stuff. tmbz1
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He's been exposed as a hater making up stuff. tmbz1
The Misfits ran an exposé? ngc3
You mean the lunatics here who run their own asylum ngc3
I'll wait for the audio book on Kindle and then until they ALL learn to know their own name and write so they can autograph it ngc3
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Proof? Please tell us how many times you have met Burke.
Has a dozen or more positive tests.
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He had 5555 starts last year and 1129 wins. That is a huge number of tests. Many trainers have a small number of positives. The Burke positives have at lease a plausible explanation. I don't just hate, I analyze the facts and circumstances around the positives.
BS...If you are not cheating you don't get double-digit positives.
Learned from his dad who couldn't train Lassie to bark. Then one day went from a zero to top trainer.
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BS...If you are not cheating you don't get double-digit positives.
Learned from his dad who couldn't train Lassie to bark. Then one day went from a zero to top trainer.
Lassie ngc3
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This went (2) 26 & change qtrs and (2) 28 qtrs drawing off to win by 5. Fastest mile at meadows since last sat , 4 racing cards. Could be more if you go back further. There is absolutely no way this horse races a mile like that without have the needle shoved deep into his neck ! As far as proof , look up Usta fines and suspensions for Ron Burke , they are on there !! Let me guess , it was a mistake , he really didn’t get a positive. You fucking idiotic retards that still don’t think he uses drugs , you must have a IQ smaller that your shoe size . How can some of your morons be sooo stupid . Burke , his brother and dad were and are all drug using crooks . All his defenders on here must have worked for him or friends of that fat slob !💉💉💉
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This went (2) 26 & change qtrs and (2) 28 qtrs drawing off to win by 5. Fastest mile at meadows since last sat , 4 racing cards. Could be more if you go back further. There is absolutely no way this horse races a mile like that without have the needle shoved deep into his neck ! As far as proof , look up Usta fines and suspensions for Ron Burke , they are on there !! Let me guess , it was a mistake , he really didn’t get a positive. You fucking idiotic retards that still don’t think he uses drugs , you must have a IQ smaller that your shoe size . How can some of your morons be sooo stupid . Burke , his brother and dad were and are all drug using crooks . All his defenders on here must have worked for him or friends of that fat slob !💉💉💉
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no breeding on the horse was sold originally in sale for $3000 i make no accusations but i find the whole situation very strange
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Burke's stable, brigade, whatetheFever, was built like the American mafia.
Big money and backing.
Corrupt as the day is long to start.
Still corrupt and have used those illegally gained proceeds to be able to purchase state of the art, top quality stuff to benefit his operation that very few can afford. Going legit somewhat but still way over the top corrupt...how much sh!t does he do gets buried, or he's at the top of the list and gets choice inclusion, spots based on luck, entry fees, sure and under the table envelopes. His nefarious power goes to the top of a game where the whole thing is built and run and regulated on corruption and illegal drugs, animal abuse.
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That is not evidence of anything, it is just hate. The horse when to the barn of the most successful trainer of all time and had a grade circuit driver.
Still waiting for a name of a horse that improved 5 seconds on a trainer change without breaking it's last start. I'll give you an easier one to answer. Can you name a trainer that has had a Gabapentin, AND Glaucine positive? Will eagerly wait for your reply.
Sincerely, Silent One
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Has over 75,000 lifetime starts! With a handful of positives that’s actually very impressive to me.
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Has over 75,000 lifetime starts! With a handful of positives that’s actually very impressive to me.
While not as many starts, the same holds true for all the historically power trainers. Ledford, Robinson, Gillis, Suric,etc they all raced with impunity because what they were using to make those horses finish was getting through. It's really that simple and to have that kind of hot take on it shows me you're incapable of critical thought. I'm all for one trainer improving a horse from the previous one, happens all the time and for a variety of reasons. I've been on both sides of that equation. But please stop with that simple thought process of high starts-low number of positives. The chances of him not having a competitive advantage over the others are zero. And he knows it, that's why the sudden explosion in the scale of the operation about five years ago. You don't take on a Million per month in operating expenses and scale to EVERY jurisdiction in North America unless you know the outcome is pre-ordained.
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Has over 75,000 lifetime starts! With a handful of positives that’s actually very impressive to me.
Me too! With so many grooms, vets, and 2nd trainers mistakes are unavoidable. People are just jealous of the best.
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Me too! With so many grooms, vets, and 2nd trainers mistakes are unavoidable. People are just jealous of the best.
Like the grooms tube the fuckers, you're a fucking moron. The Burke brothers run the show and when it's time to pre-race, just like all the other juice trainers, the shedrow is clear.
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Like the grooms tube the fuckers, you're a fucking moron. The Burke brothers run the show and when it's time to pre-race, just like all the other juice trainers, the shedrow is clear.
You have quite an imagination. What caused such rage? ngc3 Grooms have caused many positives with coke, cannabis, even coffee!
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BS...If you are not cheating you don't get double-digit positives.
Learned from his dad who couldn't train Lassie to bark. Then one day went from a zero to top trainer.
Right and if I am not mistaken, couldn't even get a license anymore, hence his son's takeover.
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Has over 75,000 lifetime starts! With a handful of positives that’s actually very impressive to me.
Honestly what's impressive to me is he has any positives at all, really. Most of these headscratching improvements top guys are 10 steps ahead of testing.
Not singling him out here.
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You have quite an imagination. What caused such rage? ngc3 Grooms have caused many positives with coke, cannabis, even coffee!
You take the cake moron. Burke's positives aren't for coke, coffee and meth. Every juice trainer is always looking for a way to treat breathing and build their blood so they don't experience fatigue last 1/4 mile. And it isn't no imagination, the amount of epo, aranesp, BB3 purchased by trainers is mind boggling. Where are all the positives? You think Bill Robinson wasn't using it on all his horses? How about Ledford during his run? I could name about 10 others.
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You take the cake moron. Burke's positives aren't for coke, coffee and meth. Every juice trainer is always looking for a way to treat breathing and build their blood so they don't experience fatigue last 1/4 mile. And it isn't no imagination, the amount of epo, aranesp, BB3 purchased by trainers is mind boggling. Where are all the positives? You think Bill Robinson wasn't using it on all his horses? How about Ledford during his run? I could name about 10 others.
You have quite an imagination. What caused such rage? ngc3 ngc3 Yes cheaters get caught and are punished same as any sport.
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You have quite an imagination. What caused such rage? ngc3 ngc3 Yes cheaters get caught and are punished same as any sport.
It was posted on here the info from the FEDs. The commission did not follow up and do their jobs. Your BS is old and stale.
No on could beat those arrested on a regular basis. Unless.....
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Burke is for sure the best in the business and what he does like or hate him amazes me. He may not be hands on with every horse every single day but I guarantee he knows his operation inside and out. Horses improve and go backwards all the time. Should a horse improve from Neal to Burke/A.Mccarthy? Yes absolutely but if I wasnt a meadows regular I wouldn't think Burke just got this horse a week ago and he jasnt won in 2 years. The horse was under wraps and looks ready to go on a serious tear and pave some serious miles. I'm a Burke fan and I personally like the big operations and the guys who dominate because they've worked hard to get there. With all this being said if you think Ronnie is a hay and and oats operation you're crazy... but with that being sad he doesnt get in trouble very often! Is he smart and ahead of testing? More than likely but also if you think guys like Burke or for example Per Engblom is dumb enough to risk everything on "narcotics" etc on horses i think you're crazy. Basically im saying it was a huge improvement and I'm sure Burke had "his blood boiling"
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also note he has taken horses from a number of trainers
he picked off a number of quality 3 yr olds from alagna last year that are doing very well
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also note he has taken horses from a number of trainers
he picked off a number of quality 3 yr olds from alagna last year that are doing very well
It goes both ways. Burke offered, and my trainer and I accepted 25k for our 5yo pacer who was beating the nw8 cond claimers at the Meadows earlier this year. Ran him once at Northfield, finished 3rd, and then fractured a pastern while training several days later.
By the way, when I mentioned Neal’s horse to my trainer this morning, he said that Burke told him the horse would go in 49 before the race!
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It goes both ways. Burke offered, and my trainer and I accepted 25k for our 5yo pacer who was beating the nw8 cond claimers at the Meadows earlier this year. Ran him once at Northfield, finished 3rd, and then fractured a pastern while training several days later.
Bingo, buddy.
The Burke's 100% run an outstanding operation in the following ways:
- Classification - this is a huge advantage. They'll ship a horse anywhere if it fits a class it can win.
Vetwork - they do a ton of work some trainers can't or won't afford to do.
Money - they can buy a horse for any class they want.
Edge - they have it. I am not sure what it is, but they have it. Not the only ones.
They do not give one rat's ass what breaks down, dies, falls by the wayside in the process. When you have that much $$ behind you, I guess you don't have to.
It's a fine business model except for the fact that you're involving a living being. Which it is very clear they don't give a shit about.