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Title: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Papillon on April 27, 2026, 12:03:24 PM
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Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: seen2much on April 27, 2026, 12:13:41 PM
Jeff is in his 80's. A no vote might be the end for him. Would someone else took over the Meadowlands? If so there would probably a big reduction of the stakes races.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Yonkers1A on April 27, 2026, 12:21:51 PM
I ran into Jeff at Tioga Downs recently, he seemed to believe it would pass. This shows he has a ways to go
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Checked Up on April 27, 2026, 03:08:20 PM
I hope that everything goes well for M1 because this sport NEEDS this venue!
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: LUCPARK on April 27, 2026, 03:35:42 PM
jeffrey had been doing an adequate job in the early yrs

nowadays  racingat that track  is unwatchable hopefully he sells

track needs new blood..

Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: simplify on April 27, 2026, 03:40:39 PM
jeffrey had been doing an adequate job in the early yrs

nowadays  racingat that track  is unwatchable hopefully he sells

track needs new blood..

You legit can't be this stupid. Has to be a schtick.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: LUCPARK on April 27, 2026, 03:43:40 PM
You legit can't be this stupid. Has to be a schtick.

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Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Papillon on April 27, 2026, 03:57:06 PM
my interpretation from the article is that his casino dreams wont even make it to the referendum

in August , the NJ legislators will decide if the referendum will be on the November ballot --and they need 2 out of 3 lawmakers to approve that it goes to November--and if it somehow it does--then he would need 2 out of 3 NJ voters to pass

most likely in August, when it is decided that there will be no referendum, Gural will most likely announce that this is his last year running M1

as far as selling M1--he doesn't own it.... he leases it from the state

doubtful anyone will step up and absorb the loss by "turning on the lights everyday" as Jeff claims


Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 27, 2026, 04:03:26 PM
I had the honor of having dinner with Jeff and a mutual friend a few years ago. Great guy and great ambassador for the sport.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: LUCPARK on April 27, 2026, 04:10:45 PM
I had the honor of having dinner with Jeff and a mutual friend a few years ago. Great guy and great ambassador for the sport.

He’s old and smells like pee shut the fvk up

Asshole
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 27, 2026, 04:26:46 PM
I've had dinner with Jeff a few times he is definitely an asset to the business and quite a gentleman.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 27, 2026, 04:33:01 PM
I've had dinner with Jeff a few times he is definitely an asset to the business and quite a gentleman.

    tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 27, 2026, 04:33:54 PM
He’s old and smells like pee shut the fvk up

Asshole

             KMA YOU RETARDED DWARF!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: mackdiver on April 27, 2026, 11:00:25 PM
I had the honor of having dinner with Jeff and a mutual friend a few years ago. Great guy and great ambassador for the sport.

👍🏼
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: rainman2 on April 28, 2026, 12:01:36 AM
I've had dinner with Jeff a few times he is definitely an asset to the business and quite a gentleman.

He's very fan friendly.  The staff at the restaurant said go up to him and say hello and I did when I was at Tioga on EBC day in August 2025.  He is very astute and knows what is going on in the business.  He actually asked me a question upon saying hello to meet him and caught me off guard!  At least he cares about the business, unlike the other entities who own racetracks.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 28, 2026, 09:37:47 AM
He's very fan friendly.  The staff at the restaurant said go up to him and say hello and I did when I was at Tioga on EBC day in August 2025.  He is very astute and knows what is going on in the business.  He actually asked me a question upon saying hello to meet him and caught me off guard!  At least he cares about the business, unlike the other entities who own racetracks.

Told me straight out he's tired of paying out of pocket to support indoctrinated welfare recipients. His words. That why he didn't want to pay the 200k for the Breeder's Crown dates in 2021 that led to him involved in the Skolnick/SBOANJ that was quietly settled a few months ago. And for the most part horsemen attack him over his methods and accuse him of only caring about profiting. Isn't that the idea? He has a long way before he's ever back in the black recouping the money he has spent.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 28, 2026, 10:16:49 AM
He's very fan friendly.  The staff at the restaurant said go up to him and say hello and I did when I was at Tioga on EBC day in August 2025.  He is very astute and knows what is going on in the business.  He actually asked me a question upon saying hello to meet him and caught me off guard!  At least he cares about the business, unlike the other entities who own racetracks.

     Great guy!  tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 28, 2026, 10:35:37 AM
Told me straight out he's tired of paying out of pocket to support indoctrinated welfare recipients. His words. That why he didn't want to pay the 200k for the Breeder's Crown dates in 2021 that led to him involved in the Skolnick/SBOANJ that was quietly settled a few months ago. And for the most part horsemen attack him over his methods and accuse him of only caring about profiting. Isn't that the idea? He has a long way before he's ever back in the black recouping the money he has spent.
Mike Mike Mike... Who are you kidding the last person he would talk to is you after all, have you forgotten? He caught with a tape recorder in your pocket when you finally got to meet him. I know the man personally he doesn't even know your name, stop with the bullshit you're only fool yourself.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 28, 2026, 10:45:05 AM
Mike Mike Mike... Who are you kidding the last person he would talk to is you after all, have you forgotten? He caught with a tape recorder in your pocket when you finally got to meet him. I know the man personally he doesn't even know your name, stop with the bullshit you're only fool yourself.

  Will the lowlife EVER get a job??    ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Cashout on April 28, 2026, 11:21:54 AM
Gural’s has the same chance of getting a casino as Trump has of winning The Nobel Peace Prize this year. 
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 28, 2026, 11:32:28 AM
  Will the lowlife EVER get a job??    ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
NO! Just think our hard earned tax dollars going to him. Then again look at his life it's a train wreck. 
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 28, 2026, 11:36:04 AM
NO! Just think our hard earned tax dollars going to him. Then again look at his life it's a train wreck.

If I'm a trainwreck you and your criminal friends are the worst plane.crash in grifter history. Stole millions...needs cash.  ngc3
Signed, JOSEPH Sakit G
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 28, 2026, 11:47:42 AM
If I'm a trainwreck you and your criminal friends are the worst plane.crash in grifter history. Stole millions...needs cash.  ngc3
Signed, JOSEPH Sakit G
You know what's sad Mike?  That you respond within 2 minutes, you live on this website. I wonder if the government knows you're wasting their money?
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 28, 2026, 12:02:47 PM
You know what's sad Mike?  That you respond within 2 minutes, you live on this website. I wonder if the government knows you're wasting their money?

Says a member of the gang whose leader put into print he stole millions fixing races and needs CASH NOW because he ignored his doctor a year ago. Boohoo. Another guy who was so addicted to using baking soda he got banned from the game. And another guy who has years of suspensions to serve because he tried to kill Marcus Miller in a race. Next time you change your screen name remember it's still the same account. Fucking mutant . ngc3
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: rainman2 on April 28, 2026, 02:38:20 PM
Told me straight out he's tired of paying out of pocket to support indoctrinated welfare recipients. His words. That why he didn't want to pay the 200k for the Breeder's Crown dates in 2021 that led to him involved in the Skolnick/SBOANJ that was quietly settled a few months ago. And for the most part horsemen attack him over his methods and accuse him of only caring about profiting. Isn't that the idea? He has a long way before he's ever back in the black recouping the money he has spent.

So he owns Tioga to make a profit?

Don't the horsemen race for 'slot infused' purses @ Tioga?

Could he profit more if they decoupled?

What about Vernon?

How much does he lose there?  Even with slots?
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: dougie on April 28, 2026, 06:10:20 PM
Im not sure how long Gural will stay if he doesn't get the casino he has always wanted. I'm sure he and his wife have enough money to travel the world 100 times over. He should just "dump" all three tracks and enjoy his life. The question is.....who will buy the tracks?
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: rainman2 on April 28, 2026, 06:16:36 PM
Im not sure how long Gural will stay if he doesn't get the casino he has always wanted. I'm sure he and his wife have enough money to travel the world 100 times over. He should just "dump" all three tracks and enjoy his life. The question is.....who will buy the tracks?

Gural owns a good portion of real estate worth millions of dollars!  Real cash flow?  Who knows?

Actually who is interested in running The Meadowlands without casino $$ is perhaps a better question?
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: dougie on April 28, 2026, 06:24:34 PM
Gural owns a good portion of real estate worth millions of dollars!  Real cash flow?  Who knows?

Actually who is interested in running The Meadowlands without casino $$ is perhaps a better question?
I agree. I mean, at his age, who needs the aggravation? I'd just dump and run. LOL!
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 29, 2026, 09:38:23 AM
Says a member of the gang whose leader put into print he stole millions fixing races and needs CASH NOW because he ignored his doctor a year ago. Boohoo. Another guy who was so addicted to using baking soda he got banned from the game. And another guy who has years of suspensions to serve because he tried to kill Marcus Miller in a race. Next time you change your screen name remember it's still the same account. Fucking mutant . ngc3
you're a big man behind the microphone huh. I don't know anybody that stupid who could announce their address and their name on a fictitious website your thumb is that fucking idiot trigger.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 29, 2026, 10:01:09 AM
you're a big man behind the microphone huh. I don't know anybody that stupid who could announce their address and their name on a fictitious website your thumb is that fucking idiot trigger.

Says the guy who was hiding behind a screen name anonymously in a chat forum.  ngc3 My address is public knowledge, I'm not a PUSSY like you are dickface. Tell everyone how you lost your license. Weather nice in Florida? 845-703-0504 if your balls ever descend.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: BrokenHeadPole on April 30, 2026, 02:56:46 AM
The racing there has become unwatchable. Thier conditions call for cheaper and cheaper horses. Now I see the big-time trainers complaining that their horses don't get in to race due to a lack of listed conditions or lack of entrants to fill the race. They then state that they are going to race elsewhere.
 
With the trend in racing there, and I never thought I would say this, the Meadowlands may not be needed. Other states are booming, and the bigger races will find new homes.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 30, 2026, 09:10:49 AM
The racing there has become unwatchable. Thier conditions call for cheaper and cheaper horses. Now I see the big-time trainers complaining that their horses don't get in to race due to a lack of listed conditions or lack of entrants to fill the race. They then state that they are going to race elsewhere.
 
With the trend in racing there, and I never thought I would say this, the Meadowlands may not be needed. Other states are booming, and the bigger races will find new homes.
I had no problem
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 30, 2026, 09:31:07 AM
I had no problem

Stop kissing ass Arm & Hammer dickface. You're finished.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 30, 2026, 09:42:17 AM
Stop kissing ass Arm & Hammer dickface. You're finished.  tmbz1
why do you keep harassing me? Between your private messages and posting it's getting to become an obsession with you. You really need to get a life.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Calhoun on April 30, 2026, 09:48:39 AM
why do you keep harassing me? Between your private messages and posting it's getting to become an obsession with you. You really need to get a life.
Petrelli has never sent me a private message. Also, he's too pummelled to respond to mine.

Calhoun offered him more than one off ramp.

He has nothing, ho money, no car, no family. All he has is trolling  Calhoun.

He's been OBLITERATED. By Calhoun.

I got him on PERMA-IGGY.

Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: G on April 30, 2026, 10:00:18 AM
Petrelli has never sent me a private message. Also, he's too pummelled to respond to mine.

Calhoun offered him more than one off ramp.

He has nothing, ho money, no car, no family. All he has is trolling  Calhoun.

He's been OBLITERATED. By Calhoun.

I got him on PERMA-IGGY.
I could tell you that your obliteration of Mike has affected him mentally as he's taking out his frustrations on me.
Title: Re: Doesn't look good for Gural
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 30, 2026, 10:04:44 AM
I could tell you that your obliteration of Mike has affected him mentally as he's taking out his frustrations on me.

I'm waiting to be banned from Horseplop as promised by Cunthoun. Too late, his truth is out here now. Any horse I OWNED I OWNED. BTW, where's the interview with my father he promised? Did he forget he called him trash for knocking up my mother after she got pregnant? They only stayed married 56 years. So, I'm waiting. And where's the phone call dickface??? You said I don't know who I'm fucking with. Actually, I do. You're nothing. Arm & Hammer Hall Of Famer  ngc3
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