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Title: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: wizardofoz on December 29, 2025, 12:00:28 AM
May 2025: New Jersey harness racing trainer Per Engblom has been granted a stay of his 380-day suspension and $6,000 fine by the New Jersey Racing Commission (NJRC), allowing him to continue training while his case proceeds through the appeals process.........a ny updates on this?
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: wizardofoz on December 29, 2025, 12:02:11 AM
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Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 29, 2025, 12:24:36 AM
Good for Gural and everyone else. Very good. Step in the right direction. Let's see more steps.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Harness racer on December 29, 2025, 01:36:35 AM
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Why did you erase your post?
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: hoosierboy on December 29, 2025, 04:34:41 AM
Let’s See what the entry box shows
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Pool Guy on December 29, 2025, 07:53:18 AM
Waiting for it to get real....
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Locked in with pace on December 29, 2025, 08:44:41 AM
Nothing will happen. The big-name trainers appeals last year's. This week's races will be filled with his horses.  The Big M needs him to fill fields.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 29, 2025, 04:25:14 PM
Nothing will happen. The big-name trainers appeals last year's. This week's races will be filled with his horses.  The Big M needs him to fill fields.

Do you really believe that Gural et al are going to give someone a pass because they need him to fill races?
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Papillon on December 29, 2025, 05:35:49 PM
Nothing will happen. The big-name trainers appeals last year's. This week's races will be filled with his horses.  The Big M needs him to fill fields.

Currently--about how many YR trainers does Gural have on his banned(sorry, banded) list?
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Parked on December 29, 2025, 06:30:21 PM
Nothing will happen. The big-name trainers appeals last year's. This week's races will be filled with his horses.  The Big M needs him to fill fields.

He had  5 horses racing at Mlands Saturday. 2 in the open (finished 1,2. $9.80 win, heavy favorite 2 nd). 2 chalk and a 26-1 , none win.  Lots of full fields , they don’t need him to fill races .  Beckwith couldnt get any of the 3 heavy favorites home.  Strange .
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Lance on December 29, 2025, 10:35:57 PM
8 months and no action….you need to meet Terrance that used to hang around Freehold.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: COME ON MAN on December 30, 2025, 06:00:50 AM
Engblom has 8 into go on Friday night 01/02/26  at the Meadowlands   I guess its Happy New Year to Per !
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Trigger on December 30, 2025, 06:43:06 AM
Nothing will happen. The big-name trainers appeals last year's. This week's races will be filled with his horses.  The Big M needs him to fill fields.
Engblom has 8 into go on Friday night 01/02/26  at the Meadowlands   I guess its Happy New Year to Per !

Probably a stay.

Glad you fellas think logically and read for yourself.

Grandstanding & Wizardofjizz, one has his nose in the air, the other perpetually up gruals ass.  ngc3
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 30, 2025, 04:11:22 PM
It's not like this guy did not have any positive tests. There's no vague conduct detrimental to the sport. No witch hunts. IIRC, the positive(s) were for oxycodone, carisoprodol, and meprobamate. What's he fighting, 380 days? If Gural said he set a deadline, I'd like to see him stick to it. If he doesn't, I'd like proof-positive reasons why. Throw this guy out and watch what happens. If, and it's a huge if, but if you have trouble filling a few races, it will be short-lived. Good riddance.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 30, 2025, 04:42:02 PM
This is a travesty of epic proportions.

Gural says no Per in 2026 unless reversed. I guess we can’t trust Gurals word anymore, I’ve lost all respect for him, a man that can’t keep his word is
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Locked in with pace on December 30, 2025, 04:49:17 PM
Gural is keeping low key till he gets a casino.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 30, 2025, 05:29:57 PM
I had the honor of having dinner with Jeff and a mutual friend a couple years ago. Great guy! tmbz1
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on December 30, 2025, 06:04:25 PM
It was a bigger honor for him. Who was the mutual friend, Sakit? Did Gural run out on paying the check?
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on December 30, 2025, 06:06:50 PM
This is a travesty of epic proportions.

Gural says no Per in 2026 unless reversed. I guess we can’t trust Gurals word anymore, I’ve lost all respect for him, a man that can’t keep his word is


Maybe you should start asking Gural to resign too.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Trigger on December 30, 2025, 07:02:08 PM

Maybe you should start asking Gural to resign too.

More simple then we know.

Make a chronological list of major occurrences of actual regulatory, and lawful failures at the Big M during his time.

Add the habitual problems with trainers and their revolving door there.

Drug and performing enhancing users and dealers.

and CAW.

Overall compromised integrity.

Show a down angle graph, handle, purses...that the government in part is NOW subsidizing the product that obviously no reasonable gambler is doing in full.  The threat to send a flagship, historic race in the Hambo packing.

Now take that grievance and share it with the state of NJ (all major state media) and the legislature that decides on his Casino.

Give him his casino only if he clears that attached list to his demand after one year of no major issue recurrences.

Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 30, 2025, 07:13:59 PM
Gural doesnt care what anyone thinks about him.
Look at his history with the bongiorno family of trainers.
Gural will do whatever he wants and if you dont like it, too bad.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 30, 2025, 07:49:08 PM

Maybe you should start asking Gural to resign too.

Now that's funny.  ngc3
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Harness racer on December 30, 2025, 10:23:54 PM
Gural doesnt care what anyone thinks about him.
Look at his history with the bongiorno family of trainers.
Gural will do whatever he wants and if you dont like it, too bad.

He is very hypocritical when it comes to certain things.  I know SCM has avenues of communication with him.  Would love to see him ask about Per having entries after 12/31 with nothing resolved.  What a joke!
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 31, 2025, 07:18:59 AM
He is very hypocritical when it comes to certain things.  I know SCM has avenues of communication with him.  Would love to see him ask about Per having entries after 12/31 with nothing resolved.  What a joke!

https://www.youtube.com/live/98MkhXNyT70?si=rpJ4ZJ1lnECDhNhX
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 31, 2025, 10:13:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/live/98MkhXNyT70?si=rpJ4ZJ1lnECDhNhX

The NJ Casino commission and control boards may not be too open to welcoming their largest casino operator who clearly feels he is above everything and will do what he wants
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 31, 2025, 03:17:16 PM

Maybe you should start asking Gural to resign too.

Thats too much for one man to handle, can you help out ?
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 31, 2025, 04:47:31 PM
Thats too much for one man to handle, can you help out ?

     Yeah, you seem to have your hands full posting your Ford nonsense.   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Harness racer on December 31, 2025, 06:09:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/98MkhXNyT70?si=rpJ4ZJ1lnECDhNhX

That’s unbelievable!  Gural, you are a lying, two-faced piece of shit.  I wish horsemen would grow a spine and boycott the box so you can field a card one weekend.  Mr. Integrity my ass.  You are no different and are 100 % looking out for you, not the horsemen.  🖕
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Harness racer on December 31, 2025, 06:12:16 PM
Almost forgot, thanks for the update Mike.  You coming back anytime soon?  Place is less entertaining without your mix of information, condescension, and shenanigans.   tmbz1
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Yonkers1A on January 02, 2026, 07:04:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/live/98MkhXNyT70?si=rpJ4ZJ1lnECDhNhX

Bump
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Pool Guy on January 02, 2026, 08:34:19 AM
     Yeah, you seem to have your hands full posting your Ford nonsense.   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Pacer 2 seems to have his hands full getting Beckwith Epogen order up to snuff  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3...remember, Saratoga about a month away  ;D
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Harness racer on January 02, 2026, 09:26:08 AM
He's got 11 in to go at M1 this weekend.  Mr. Gural...go fuck yourself!   tmbz1
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Rohirrim on January 02, 2026, 10:59:19 AM
The Meadowlands is a joke. This is just another case where they don’t stick to their word and want it to be a country club for the select few. Big M has been replaced by MVR as the place to race in the winter.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Harness racer on January 03, 2026, 06:05:57 AM
Per had 3 wins and 2 seconds with 8 starters and was allowed by Gural to steal over $27k in purse money from horsemen racing at M1 last night.  And that's with Beckwith making breaks on 2 other favs, so it could've and should've been more than that.  Excellent job protecting the integrity Mr. Gural!   tmbz1
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Yonkers1A on January 03, 2026, 06:44:21 AM
It’s a sad state of affairs there.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Stan durbread on January 03, 2026, 05:42:21 PM
So Gural is siding with the ALG (real court) instead of a rogue NJ race commission that picks and chooses who to go after. What an ass
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on January 03, 2026, 06:29:51 PM
So Gural is siding with the ALG (real court) instead of a rogue NJ race commission that picks and chooses who to go after. What an ass

The ALJ reduced it to 90 days. Gural blew past that and gave him zero days. Because he picks and chooses who he goes after.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Stan durbread on January 03, 2026, 06:35:29 PM
The ALJ reduced it to 90 days. Gural blew past that and gave him zero days. Because he picks and chooses who he goes after.

Obviously you didn’t watch the idiots YouTube. Gural tried to make peace and get the NJRC to uphold the ALG recommendations instead of having this tied up in court for 2 more years. Not sure what to make of those positives but something ain’t right. If he was using those drugs then 5 other guys were doing it too.
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Stan durbread on January 03, 2026, 06:59:36 PM
As a side note. Guy has 120+ horses a $6k/month. Do you really believe he would use easily detected drugs on his horses?? I know common sense is not readily available on here   But please think a little
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Yonkers1A on January 04, 2026, 05:33:27 AM
As a side note. Guy has 120+ horses a $6k/month. Do you really believe he would use easily detected drugs on his horses?? I know common sense is not readily available on here   But please think a little

This is buggy racing, they’ll use anything if they think they won’t get caught
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: wizardofoz on January 04, 2026, 02:02:18 PM
Druggers, do not use the word trainers, will use ANYTHING where a test has yet to be implemented. and it is criminal that these people would inject these poor defenseless animals with foreign substances knowing the long term effects are detrimental to the horse!
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Harness racer on January 04, 2026, 02:48:55 PM
Per wins 2 out of 3 last night.  Thanks Jeffie!  You are Mr. Integrity!
Title: Re: 8 months and still no action?
Post by: Stan durbread on January 04, 2026, 04:54:23 PM
Druggers, do not use the word trainers, will use ANYTHING where a test has yet to be implemented. and it is criminal that these people would inject these poor defenseless animals with foreign substances knowing the long term effects are detrimental to the horse!
FYI the drugs in question are prescribed to people every day. Millions of times each day
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