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Title: Gareth Dowse
Post by: toothman on December 12, 2025, 04:12:25 PM
Its kinda like getting Al Capone on tax evasion

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Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: MCR on December 12, 2025, 05:12:50 PM
Same way they took Pena down years ago. Complete bull shit. In my opinion.  Basically if they dont like you they can take your lively hood at the snap of a finger and nothing you can do about it.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Kirby's Ace on December 12, 2025, 07:07:53 PM
Same as Davita
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Pool Guy on December 12, 2025, 08:55:27 PM
I might be more worried about the IRS than the USTA
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: hoosierboy on December 12, 2025, 10:26:15 PM
He will at PCD when it reopens
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Brown jug on December 12, 2025, 10:34:44 PM
if he has nothing to hide than supply the requested paperwork
pretty simple
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: White Rabbit on December 13, 2025, 01:04:09 PM
Why should anyone supply the USTA with anything . One of a couple board members should be investigated as well. Torcello has or had horse for Wagner . That might be the easiest paper trail to prove or disprove . Just cause you buy a horse at On Gait doesn’t mean it’s above board. That’s why when we sell we only use preferred Equine . The buyer pays David and there’s no BS.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Harness racer on December 13, 2025, 01:05:00 PM
Couldn’t have happened to a bigger douchebag.  Hope it’s the first of many!
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Brown jug on December 13, 2025, 02:00:07 PM
the whole industry needs more transparency
not just on this type of incident but on all things
whatever is being done now ( pretty much nothing ) clearly does not work
we need to stop protecting cheaters
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on December 13, 2025, 02:25:40 PM


    Anyone remember his wife?
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: LWC on December 14, 2025, 08:14:29 AM

    Anyone remember his wife?

Sheena Cohen
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on December 14, 2025, 08:19:03 AM

  Jessica Dowse
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 14, 2025, 06:27:05 PM
https://youtu.be/7deFmXqgz1c
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Kirby's Ace on December 14, 2025, 06:49:49 PM
He might as well told 60 minutes that story!

SCM gonna have a field day with this!

 tmbz1
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: toothman on December 14, 2025, 07:38:40 PM
https://youtu.be/7deFmXqgz1c

that was quite a conversation.!
Does Kirbys Ace not know who SCM is?
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Harness racer on December 15, 2025, 07:18:32 AM
SCM banned?  Haven’t seen any posts lately.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Kirby's Ace on December 15, 2025, 08:57:51 AM
Oh, Our Boyyyyy is here! Just ask Pool Guy and Yonkers1A!
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 15, 2025, 04:18:50 PM
that was quite a conversation.!
Does Kirbys Ace not know who SCM is?

If you listen to the whole coversation, it is mind blowing.

Kirbys Ace is definitely confused
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Harness racer on December 15, 2025, 05:13:16 PM
If you listen to the whole coversation, it is mind blowing.

Kirbys Ace is definitely confused

I was thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Calhoun on December 15, 2025, 05:17:55 PM
I was thinking the same thing.
Shopping Cart Mike appreciates your support.

 tmbz1
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Harness racer on December 15, 2025, 05:19:33 PM
Shopping Cart Mike appreciates your support.

 


Saying Kirby was confused is support?  Your reading comprehension isn’t great!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Calhoun on December 15, 2025, 05:21:52 PM


Saying Kirby was confused is support?  Your reading comprehension isn’t great!   tmbz1
It's better than great.

Kirby is never wrong.

Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 16, 2025, 07:44:54 AM
https://youtu.be/7deFmXqgz1c

This audio explains a lot, it’s a must listen
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 16, 2025, 03:41:57 PM
https://youtu.be/7svCfRZDK08

More audio for you audio files
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 17, 2025, 10:49:22 AM
I can do a translation if you dont have speakers

Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Calhoun on December 17, 2025, 12:08:22 PM
this audio is confirmed garbage.

Shopping Cart Mike sneaking up on another victim.

Total trash
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Harness racer on December 17, 2025, 12:42:43 PM
Ray Ray is a horrible human being!  But so is Dowse.  So make up your own mind.  But I don't thinks he's lying.   tmbz1
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on December 18, 2025, 02:55:14 AM
There are 100's of dowses out there in this industry.  People who worked for other people and had to do as directed. It's just a matter of who will talk! Many stay quiet forever. These people are out there.
Second trainers and grooms after have seen and done the following. There are people who knows what goes on in stables.  Now this isn't every stable but lots and lots of stables have secrets.
The following things happen everyday.

Bring in illegal substances(needles and syringes) hidden in cars or trucks.

Hold the horse so it can be tubed

Know about abusive behavior against the animals

See use of cattle prods with harness bags over horses heads.

Taking horses off the grounds on race day saying its a different horse in the trailer. Then bringing them back after horse is pre raced.

Trainers stopping at gas station right before they get to the track to treat horses. 

Betting horses after you ran up the rail for weeks.

Telling the driver in the paddock to race your horse easy. Don't pull.

Beating horses with whips or pitch forks during a training mile. .

 seen drivers before going to gate take whip under arch of bike and snap the whip around the horses rear pasterns to wake them up.

Injecting different acids and chemicals into joints.

All these things are done on a daily basis. Just who has the balls to say it in public. Many people who are witness to these things need their jobs and fear losing their jobs. So the secrets stay secrets.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Dingus on December 18, 2025, 08:45:36 AM
There are 100's of dowses out there in this industry.  People who worked for other people and had to do as directed. It's just a matter of who will talk! Many stay quiet forever. These people are out there.
Second trainers and grooms after have seen and done the following. There are people who knows what goes on in stables.  Now this isn't every stable but lots and lots of stables have secrets.
The following things happen everyday.

Bring in illegal substances(needles and syringes) hidden in cars or trucks.

Hold the horse so it can be tubed

Know about abusive behavior against the animals

See use of cattle prods with harness bags over horses heads.

Taking horses off the grounds on race day saying its a different horse in the trailer. Then bringing them back after horse is pre raced.

Trainers stopping at gas station right before they get to the track to treat horses. 

Betting horses after you ran up the rail for weeks.

Telling the driver in the paddock to race your horse easy. Don't pull.

Beating horses with whips or pitch forks during a training mile. .

 seen drivers before going to gate take whip under arch of bike and snap the whip around the horses rear pasterns to wake them up.

Injecting different acids and chemicals into joints.

All these things are done on a daily basis. Just who has the balls to say it in public. Many people who are witness to these things need their jobs and fear losing their jobs. So the secrets stay secrets.

Your last statement about secrets was interesting.  It’s hard to believe that there aren’t people who are government informants or employees that are working as grooms, etc to specifically monitor the activities you mentioned.
Similar to spies, etc.  Unless this type of illegal activities are not important enough to monitor.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Ramnap on December 18, 2025, 09:01:55 AM
Those are not secrets those are common practices.  You forgot about the vets blocking and pre racing during lasix, heck vets love to test shit out for ya. Vodka, condensed milk, all kinds of  crazy shit.  People are tricky, especially the ones that make betwen 2 and 31 million each year. Except for maybe luther who spends 10x what he makes in purses.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Way to go on December 18, 2025, 10:26:39 AM
AMEN.....HISA should take over and clean industry up
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 18, 2025, 10:40:06 AM
Sounds like victim mentality to me. Blame shifting? Martyr complex? DARVO?
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on December 18, 2025, 10:06:23 PM
Gareth is the fall guy in this mess. He kept poor company, but he was a beard, nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on December 19, 2025, 10:27:08 AM
the lights get really hot when your livelihood is in jeopardy. he is trying to cooperate to get back in good standing. probably too little too late.

everything he is saying is more than likely the truth. he is singing like a canary to save face. hoping it will help him.

there are many people like him out there who have info that could be used to prosecute and get the criminals out of the game. 
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Harness racer on December 19, 2025, 02:39:20 PM
Gareth is the fall guy in this mess. He kept poor company, but he was a beard, nothing more, nothing less.

He knew what was going on and it was fine until it wasn’t.
Title: Re: Gareth Dowse
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 19, 2025, 03:13:52 PM
Certainly not the first guy to say "it" wasn't me, and not the first to blame others and play the victim.
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