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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Trigger on December 08, 2025, 07:55:30 PM
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I don't even remember the answers and I was there...
In the early 90's (90-94?) it was a baby stakes night at Yonkers. Many $200k races. Now this part is where my memory might be faulty...
Ian Kauffmann is on the lead going around the final turn and his horse goes down. There is a pile up. 2 horses from the back win and place. There is no 3rd place finisher. The horse that wins breaks across the wire and the 2nd place horse lapped on and gets put up at @90-1. Interestingly the 2nd place horse declared the winner went first over and actually died bad, was way way back.
I believe Prince Ebony won the Open Handicap that night too.
I hit the p4 that night, and that race was the second leg of the p4. Paid $9k. I had to come back Monday to cash (no ss dl on me). That's all I remember.
Does anyone remember that race and can fill it in accurately, get a video?
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fwiw, here is what AI says:
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The horse involved in an incident with driver Ian Kaufman was
Lucky Bet.
The horse, a trotter, was scratched from a race at Yonkers Raceway around April 17, 2009, following an ambulance trip for an injury. The incident was recorded as a "driver-DNF-must requalify" event, and the horse was diagnosed with a pulled muscle, after which it was to be rested. "
If that much is correct, then, perhaps you can tease out the rest of the info you are looking for?? Good Luck!
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fwiw, here is what AI says:
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The horse involved in an incident with driver Ian Kaufman was
Lucky Bet.
The horse, a trotter, was scratched from a race at Yonkers Raceway around April 17, 2009, following an ambulance trip for an injury. The incident was recorded as a "driver-DNF-must requalify" event, and the horse was diagnosed with a pulled muscle, after which it was to be rested. "
If that much is correct, then, perhaps you can tease out the rest of the info you are looking for?? Good Luck!
The timeline is 1990-94...I'm not teasing, I don't remember it like it was yesterday. Just the broad strokes, and you know how memory goes. The accident was bad, the inquiry I believe went @ 90 minutes. I think it was Ian Kauffmann on the lead, not bet my life on it. Maybe the series was called Hopeful?
I want that race recalled accurately and video would be awesome. I did my best.
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Might it be?
Ian B Kaufman
YR 08/16/1995
C C Lang DNF
There is no Ian Kauffmann listed on The USTA Pathway as an owner trainer, or driver.
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Might it be?
Ian B Kaufman
YR 08/16/1995
C C Lang DNF
There is no Ian Kauffmann listed on The USTA Pathway as an owner trainer, or driver.
Maybe the spelling is wrong. I think it was Ian Kaufman on the lead. Was a Jewish / German last name, could of been a son to a more famous father?
But there was an Ian K racing in that era, not sure if this video poster spelled the name correctly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bM-aZJ8Pnc
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I don't even remember the answers and I was there...
In the early 90's (90-94?) it was a baby stakes night at Yonkers. Many $200k races. Now this part is where my memory might be faulty...
Ian Kauffmann is on the lead going around the final turn and his horse goes down. There is a pile up. 2 horses from the back win and place. There is no 3rd place finisher. The horse that wins breaks across the wire and the 2nd place horse lapped on and gets put up at @90-1. Interestingly the 2nd place horse declared the winner went first over and actually died bad, was way way back.
I believe Prince Ebony won the Open Handicap that night too.
I hit the p4 that night, and that race was the second leg of the p4. Paid $9k. I had to come back Monday to cash (no ss dl on me). That's all I remember.
Does anyone remember that race and can fill it in accurately, get a video?
I believe this was NYSS finals and maybe D.R. Ackerman was one of the 2 horses that finished
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I believe this was NYSS finals and maybe D.R. Ackerman was one of the 2 horses that finished
Could be entirely possible. There is something about that driver's name that connects with that long shot possibly. NYSS makes sense too. I think you're close!
I'm spinning about a race in the 1990's should be a big deal being it went down and finished pretty much like I said and a big race...my adw the vids go back 9/3/14, on Roberts Comm March 2007 on Yonkers...though here is an accident at Yonkers in 1956 ngc3 and I ain't laughing about the accident but 75 years ago I find a vid from!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoFYRQib6Ik
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If not Kauffmann or Kaufman the only Jewish and or German sounding names I remember back in that era was Silverman, Siegelman...someh ow I remember it was the son driving for a more famous father...that horse went down and caused the crash.
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Here's an accident at Yonkers in 1950, news article...
https://www.nytimes.com/1950/05/10/archives/driver-in-hospital-from-crash-in-pace-3horse-collision-at-yonkers.html
I give up! ngc3
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Jerry Silverman was a very successful traIner and his son, Richie Silverman drove and subsequently trained horses. Richie would have been active in the 90's.
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Maybe the spelling is wrong. I think it was Ian Kaufman on the lead. Was a Jewish / German last name, could of been a son to a more famous father?
But there was an Ian K racing in that era, not sure if this video poster spelled the name correctly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bM-aZJ8Pnc
Ken Kleiman?
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I REMEMBER A RACE AROUND 1981 AT FREESTATE RACEWAY I WAS UP IN THE GRANDSTANDS MAKING DONATIONS TO THE HANDLE. THERE WAS A RACE THAT WAS I BELIEVE A 5 OR 6 CLAIMER AND THE FAVORITE HAD ALMOST ALL WINS IN THE SAME CLASS. HE WAS LIKE 3-5 AND LOOKED 2-3 SECONDS BETTER THAN THE REST OF THEM.HE WAS 4OR 5TH GOING INTO LAST TURN BUT HAD A LOT OF PACE.THE STABLE GATE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LAST TURN AND THIS HORSE WAS COMING FAST ON THE OUTSIDE AND SUDDENLY TRIED TO USE THE EXIT FOR THE BARN AND HIT IT HEAD ON AND DROPPED DEAD INSTANTLY. I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.
AND IT WAS ANNOUNCED AFTER THE RACE THAT THE HORSE WAS CLAIMED.
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Ian Kaufman drove at Yonkers in the early 90's. I vaguely remember what you are talking about, if it's the same night me and my buddy Charley were there, we bought three corn dogs....only ate two of them. I do remember someone going down.....I'll see if I can find some video from that night.
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Ian Kaufman drove at Yonkers in the early 90's. I vaguely remember what you are talking about, if it's the same night me and my buddy Charley were there, we bought three corn dogs....only ate two of them. I do remember someone going down.....I'll see if I can find some video from that night.
Hope tmbz1
OMG I love you!
Just curious, what did happen to that 3rd corn dog? ;D
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Not sure I want to see that video.
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Not sure I want to see that video.
I had to wait 90 minutes sweating moving up a placing, a refunded race...was a long video, though Lance's will have more action than some blinking #s and commentary ngc3
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I had to wait 90 minutes sweating moving up a placing, a refunded race...was a long video, though Lance's will have more action than some blinking #s and commentary ngc3
Lance and a corndog, no thanks ngc3
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I was there that night too, and I remember that race well. It was the NYSS final for 3 yo colts.
The horse on the lead turning for home was named Fulla Potholes, driven by Mike Kimelman. The horse stuck his toes in at the top of the stretch, and most of the field piled over him.
Two horses escaped the pile up and were able to finish the race. Black Gold Road, driven by DR Ackerman, crossed the line first, but was on a break. The #8 horse, Gloucester Court (Jim Morrill Jr.), who had been was parked the mile and faded badly, was so far back that he was able to circle around the pile and crossed the line a half-length back of Ackerman. He was placed first because Ackerman's horse was on a break.
I have not been able to find any press on this race, much less a video.
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I was there that night too, and I remember that race well. It was the NYSS final for 3 yo colts.
The horse on the lead turning for home was named Fulla Potholes, driven by Mike Kimelman. The horse stuck his toes in at the top of the stretch, and most of the field piled over him.
Two horses escaped the pile up and were able to finish the race. Black Gold Road, driven by DR Ackerman, crossed the line first, but was on a break. The #8 horse, Gloucester Court (Jim Morrill Jr.), who had been was parked the mile and faded badly, was so far back that he was able to circle around the pile and crossed the line a half-length back of Ackerman. He was placed first because Ackerman's horse was on a break.
I have not been able to find any press on this race, much less a video.
OMG, you're amazing, appreciation and gratitude, thank you very much!
Mike Kimelman!
I guess I put it on the dude Kauffman because that's my shoddy memory, only person's last name, driving at Yonkers starting with "K" that I could remember from 30 years.
I apologize too, because I brought it up as it was a surreal night, but until we fill in the blanks it kind of haunts the mind.
Long shots going first over dying don't usually win, let's just say if there was live wagering just before the accident, he'd be a trillion - 1 ngc3
Thanks to you we're down to the date, race and a real hail Mary would be the vid!
ohracing mentioned Ackerman, kudos!
I'm very grateful and happy though (still crazy but not a liar ngc3)! ;D
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Thanks to KP....Fulla Potholes name there is a story from 9/15/91 in the Buffalo News and it's online with a paywall though but...
"Buffalo News
DRIVER WALTER CASE HURT IN SIX-HORSE SIRE PILEUP
Fulla Potholes, with Mike Kimelman handling the reigns, went down at the top of the stretch of the $200,000 pace for 3-yea...."
https://share.google/tplqJv2zOkAxlCoMo
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Thanks to KP....Fulla Potholes name there is a story from 9/15/91 in the Buffalo News and it's online with a paywall though but...
"Buffalo News
DRIVER WALTER CASE HURT IN SIX-HORSE SIRE PILEUP
Fulla Potholes, with Mike Kimelman handling the reigns, went down at the top of the stretch of the $200,000 pace for 3-yea...."
https://share.google/tplqJv2zOkAxlCoMo
Here's a little bit more...
" DRIVER WALTER CASE HURT IN SIX-HORSE SIRE PILEUP
By FROM NEWS WIRE SERVICES NEWS STAFF REPORTER CAROLYN RAEKE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS ARTICLE., News wire services Sep 15, 1991
Driver Walter Case was hospitalized with undetermined injuries Saturday night following a six-horse pile up in the eighth and final race of the $1.6 million New York Sire Stakes Night of Champions. Fulla Potholes, with Mike Kimelman handling the reigns, went down at the top of the stretch of the $200,000 pace for 3-year-old colts and geldings. Fast Traffic,"
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Here's a little bit more...
" DRIVER WALTER CASE HURT IN SIX-HORSE SIRE PILEUP
By FROM NEWS WIRE SERVICES NEWS STAFF REPORTER CAROLYN RAEKE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS ARTICLE., News wire services Sep 15, 1991
Driver Walter Case was hospitalized with undetermined injuries Saturday night following a six-horse pile up in the eighth and final race of the $1.6 million New York Sire Stakes Night of Champions. Fulla Potholes, with Mike Kimelman handling the reigns, went down at the top of the stretch of the $200,000 pace for 3-year-old colts and geldings. Fast Traffic,"
This is some Final Destination shit here...
7 months after this horse Gloucester Court was made the winner, he died in a fire...
"The fire also killed Scooter’s Boy, a highly regarded 3-year-old colt, who was fifth in the Breeders Crown pace for 2-year-old colts and geldings last year, and Gloucester Court, an earner of more than $400,000 in 1991."
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-04-08-sp-535-story.html
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I think we have the date and the race...the article written the next day, Sunday, 9/15/91....
It mentions the 8th race and Saturday so....
Yonkers, Saturday, 9/14/91, Race 8! ;D
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Daily News has a Paywall too but deriving from it...
Finished 8-2 in Race 8
Race times 27 4/5, 56 2/5, 125 4/5, 203.?
9th race was the open handicap...Ultra Jet won. Prince Ebony 5th ngc3
The 6th race winner the #1 Dedicated Yankee
The pick 4 was 1-3-8-6 (exact payout ?)
So I was wrong about Prince Ebony, and that the accident race the 8th was not the 2nd leg, it was the 3rd.