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Title: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 01, 2025, 08:39:37 PM

Meadowlands - NJ  •  12/4/25  •  Post Time 6:20 PM


Race 1   $25,000     4u w2-nw5   Trot   1 Mile   8      ENTRIES   6:20 PM 
Race 2   $10,500     nw5000L5cd   Trot   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   6:45 PM 
Race 3   $8,000     TM<68Cd   Pace   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   7:10 PM 
Race 4   $8,500     TM<71Cd   Trot   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   7:35 PM 
Race 5   $8,000     FMTM<68   Pace   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   8:00 PM 
Race 6   $22,500     nw 25000LT   Pace   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   8:25 PM 
Race 7   $8,500     4u TM<71Cd   Trot   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   8:50 PM 
Race 8   $27,500     5u w4-nw7   Trot   1 Mile   8      ENTRIES   9:15 PM 
Race 9   $22,500     nw 25000LT   Pace   1 Mile   11      ENTRIES   9:40 PM 
Race 10   $25,000     4u w2-nw5   Trot   1 Mile   9      ENTRIES   10:05 PM 
Race 11   $8,000     TM<68Cd   Pace   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   10:30 PM 
Race 12   $8,000     7500CL   Pace   1 Mile   10      ENTRIES   10:55 PM 
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 01, 2025, 08:40:06 PM
Will Bartlett race at Yonkers or the Meadowlands that night?
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 01, 2025, 08:44:29 PM
Will Bartlett race at Yonkers or the Meadowlands that night?

2 garbage pails and a cheap claimer at M, listed on 11/12 at Y.

My guess, Y!   ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: seen2much on December 01, 2025, 08:56:14 PM
This is interesting. Four good purses on Thursday and none on Friday. No Mohawk on Thursday. Will M1 handle 2 million?
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Sakit on December 01, 2025, 09:03:39 PM
Thank you Mr. Gural!
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 01, 2025, 09:27:01 PM
Thank you Mr. Gural!

Thank you Jeff ooh ahhh  11.bz

20 degrees with a wind chill that will be below zero.

Congrats on screwing up racing so bad you have no warm climate winter harness racing ever again.

California and Florida!
  ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 01, 2025, 11:31:56 PM
What does Gural have to do with the weather?
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 01, 2025, 11:48:40 PM
What does Gural have to do with the weather?

I'm fascinated that you could write that.

Bravo!

With Jiffy Jeff's dick in your mouth.

And forever the BigM singing melodies in your ears.

No one loves all that more than you.

Does the fucker even pay you?  ngc3

Do you have a Meadowlands tattoo on your ass?  ngc3

Shithole Swamp!  ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 02, 2025, 02:38:05 PM
I made my bones on NY racing. Since then, the Meadowlands has been my livelihood since the 80's. It's now not my exclusive focus and play. Setting aside CAW, takeout, and all that, I think Gural, management, and the race office, are fighting a losing battle. You are fighting the horse population and the purses/structure you can offer, and everything that goes along with that.

Bottom line, for the most part, they are offering a diluted, watered down product. It's a double-edge sword and vicious merry-go-round. They need/want more races, more race dates, and the more you offer, the lower the quality of the product.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 02, 2025, 03:08:37 PM
I'm fascinated that you could write that.

Bravo!

With Jiffy Jeff's dick in your mouth.

And forever the BigM singing melodies in your ears.

No one loves all that more than you.

Does the fucker even pay you?  ngc3

Do you have a Meadowlands tattoo on your ass?  ngc3

Shithole Swamp!  ;D
Classless individual.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 03:14:03 PM
Classless individual.

Jeff used to have a neck, where did it go, it's like his head is melting into his chest?  ngc3

Did he get robbed too from those cheaters he hosts?  ngc3

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Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 02, 2025, 03:36:45 PM
Classless individual.

  CLEARLY!  tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 03:46:49 PM
  CLEARLY!  tmbz1 tmbz1

How would you know such things having a dwarfed size brain?   ngc3

You back up none of your talk on plop.  ngc3

Zero.  ngc3

All talk, absolutely nothing of substance.

Other than ensuring everyone harness racing is fine.  ngc3

And wanting to suck the shit out of corrupt participant via their dick hole! ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Parked on December 02, 2025, 04:18:56 PM
Classless individual.

You got a really big chuckle out of me with that post.  We know you don’t like Gural but you,  posting on HORSEPLOP that he is “classless”   This sure is an entertaining site.     
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 02, 2025, 05:48:36 PM
You got a really big chuckle out of me with that post.  We know you don’t like Gural but you,  posting on HORSEPLOP that he is “classless”   This sure is an entertaining site.   
    I'm fairly certain he was referring to TRIGGERED as I was and not Jeff Gural.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 06:04:22 PM
    I'm fairly certain he was referring to TRIGGERED as I was and not Jeff Gural.

A pacifier aka Pacer 2 (The losing pacer  ngc3) lil plop baby  ngc3

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Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Kenny on December 02, 2025, 06:10:35 PM
Jeff used to have a neck, where did it go, it's like his head is melting into his chest?  ngc3

Did he get robbed too from those cheaters he hosts?  ngc3

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(https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NY-CK532_NYDYNA_P_20130623182530.jpg)

He makes more money in a day than you will make in a lifetime, he has already lived longer than you ever will, and he has class something you will never have.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 06:16:55 PM
He makes more money in a day than you will make in a lifetime, he has already lived longer than you ever will, and he has class something you will never have.

You sucked more cocks than he'll live his life in days, you swallowed more sperm than he'll earn in pennies for his life...and he hosts cheats at his LEASED track, and is a fucking loser like you!    ngc3

I wanna casino too bwaaaa  ngc3

Manhole Toilet Man 11.bz Kenny the Cocksucker  ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Kenny on December 02, 2025, 06:23:39 PM
You sucked more cocks than he'll live his life in days, you swallowed more sperm than he'll earn in pennies for his life...and he hosts cheats at his LEASED track, and is a fucking loser like you!    ngc3

I wanna casino too bwaaaa  ngc3

Manhole Toilet Man 11.bz Kenny the Cocksucker  ;D

Remember you are the one who told the world the size of Burke's cock.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 06:28:08 PM
Remember you are the one who told the world the size of Burke's cock.

I did?  ngc3

I must of shrunk down and been in your mouth while you were sucking him off?  ngc3

Sounds impossible, and I don't think his wife Diane would be happy about you non stop talking about her man's jimmy.  ngc3

Burke's cock is always coming out of your mouth here.  ngc3



Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: AgentQ on December 02, 2025, 06:38:23 PM
I'm excited about thursday's at the big M---and being in NYC for the next month I plan on taking in the action.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 02, 2025, 07:56:08 PM
You got a really big chuckle out of me with that post.  We know you don’t like Gural but you,  posting on HORSEPLOP that he is “classless”   This sure is an entertaining site.   
Where did you EVER get the idea I do not like Gural? You have me mixed up with someone else.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 02, 2025, 07:56:27 PM
    I'm fairly certain he was referring to TRIGGERED as I was and not Jeff Gural.
100% correct!
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 08:02:41 PM
Classless individual.
You got a really big chuckle out of me with that post.  We know you don’t like Gural but you,  posting on HORSEPLOP that he is “classless”   This sure is an entertaining site.     
100% correct!

Why do you hate Jeff Gural wizardofoz?  ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Sakit on December 02, 2025, 08:12:23 PM
Remember you are the one who told the world the size of Burke's cock.
ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 08:14:26 PM
ngc3 ngc3

Dwarf brain sakit is back!   ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 02, 2025, 10:07:58 PM
Most ploppers hate Triggered, yes?
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 10:14:24 PM
Most ploppers hate Triggered, yes?
All triggered Ploppers hate pacer 2, definitely!
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 02, 2025, 10:17:38 PM
Whether you simply dislike Gural, think he's self-serving, a cry-baby, or whatever it is you think.....go make up signs and go protest/picket right outside the entrance to the Meadowlands. I'll pay for the supplies and send coffee to the picket lines.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 02, 2025, 10:25:40 PM
Whether you simply dislike Gural, think he's self-serving, a cry-baby, or whatever it is you think.....go make up signs and go protest/picket right outside the entrance to the Meadowlands. I'll pay for the supplies and send coffee to the picket lines.

Eventually are you going to trip on some wisdom - dumb as dumb can be?  ngc3

You call yourself Grandstand Handicapper yet you defend every scumbag.  ngc3

You're a kiss ass and suck up, a turd!   ngc3

Jiffy Jeff is some old rich guy living out his kid fantasy of owning a track or in his case running a leased failure.  He begs for money, no casino and deploys dozens of cheats a night and CAW the action up.

Sounds like he went dirty to win the hambo too with those tactics.   ngc3

Fuck you and all that suck his ass, and fuck him too!    ngc3

Enjoy the cold weather losers!   ;D

Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 03, 2025, 01:09:23 PM
Sounds like you're having a bad day. Sounds like every day is a bad day for you. I'd agree with everything you said, but then we'd both be completely wrong about everything. Time for ignore. Wait, before you go on ignore...do you need a hug? Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 03, 2025, 03:14:35 PM
Sounds like you're having a bad day. Sounds like every day is a bad day for you. I'd agree with everything you said, but then we'd both be completely wrong about everything. Time for ignore. Wait, before you go on ignore...do you need a hug? Good luck with that.

Well you're still 100%  tmbz1

Wrong!  ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 03, 2025, 07:56:57 PM
Bartlett opted for the Meadowlands Thursday night kids so you know he WILL be trying to win so get the wallets out!
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 03, 2025, 08:35:21 PM
Bartlett opted for the Meadowlands Thursday night kids so you know he WILL be trying to win so get the wallets out!

If that's the case I got that wrong.

Chose 2 duds and a cheap claimer over 11 drives at Y, wow.

Probably pick up a dcs too.

Fuck you and Bartlett!   ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 03, 2025, 08:41:37 PM
If that's the case I got that wrong.
 
    You're a loser you get EVERYTHING WRONG!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 03, 2025, 08:44:44 PM
    You're a loser you get EVERYTHING WRONG!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

You have self esteem issues. ngc3

If I made a prediction and it was wrong, I fess. ngc3

Now if Bartlett craps out at M, and his drives at Y win, who was wrong?  ngc3

You have made ZERO point ZERO predictions at plop. ngc3

Zero.  ngc3

You're a coward!    ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 03, 2025, 11:51:41 PM
RACE 8 - Meadowlands - NJ - December 4, 2025
Conditions: "EXIT 16W" POP UP SERIES Winners of 4 But Not More Than 7 (F&M, N/W L3 or 3 YO 8) Extended PM Races or $100,000 Life as of 11/15 Legs 12/4 & 12/11 - Final 12/18 for $37,500
Gait: Trot Purse: 27,500 Class: 5u w4-nw7Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 9:15 PM

PP    Horse   Med   2025 North America YTD    Driver    Trainer   ML   Claim
    Equip   Sts    W    P    S    Time    Earnings         Stable   Odds   Price
1    Kovu As   L    36     2     6     12     1:55.0F     $68140     Joe Bongiorno    Anthony Faulkner   8-1   
2    White Shoe Hanover   L†    12     3     1     4     1:54.2F     $23415     Tyler Miller    Julie Miller   5-1   
3    Hey Porter
 3, Bar Hopping-
 Chelsees A Winner   L    16     1     5     3     1:55.0F     $146939     Brett Beckwith    Enrico Robinson   3-1   
4    Scudo Hanover
 3, International Moni-
 Shared Past   †    18     5     1     3     1:53.4F     $53810     Braxten Boyd    Robert Baggitt Jr   4-1   
5    Snowman Hanover       26     3     2     5     1:53.0F     $30457     Patrick Ryder    Richard Aiken   15-1   
6    A Real Legend       6     1     1     2     1:53.4S     $16950     Jason Bartlett    Melanie Wrenn   5-2   
7    Queen Of America S   L    13     5     0     3     1:53.0M     $43905     Johnathan Ahle    Noel Daley   8-1   
8    P L Quinella   †    22     6     3     0     1:53.2F     $41177     Bradley Chisholm    Anthony Faulkner   15-1   
   
 
RACE 9 - Meadowlands - NJ - December 4, 2025
Conditions: "EXIT 16W" POP UP SERIES 2 & 3 Year Old Fillies N/W $25,000 (N/W L2 or NJSO $30,000) Life as of 11/15 Legs 12/4 & 12/11 - Final 12/18 for $32,500
Gait: PacePurse: 23,175 Class: nw 25000LT Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 9:40 PM

PP    Horse   Med   2025 North America YTD    Driver    Trainer   ML   Claim
    Equip   Sts    W    P    S    Time    Earnings         Stable   Odds   Price
1    She Stings
 2, Perfect Sting-Lady Lou       11     2     0     1     1:51.4M     $15280     Brett Beckwith    Cory Stratton   8-1   
2    Helen Back Again
 3, Lazarus N-Swifty Nifty       13     4     2     1     1:57.4H     $18909     Braxten Boyd    Jenna Cornelison   10-1   
3    Cover The Crown
 3, Courtly Choice-
 Always Covers       9     3     1     0     1:53.3F     $18460     Bradley Chisholm    Darran Cassar   10-1   
4    Buildmeupbuttercu p
 3, He`s Watching-
 Classy Hidden Rose       22     3     4     1     1:59.1H     $16925     Jacob Cutting    Anthony Regina   30-1   
5    Sweet Sweet Time
 2, Sweet Lou-
 As Time Goes By       1     0     1     0     Q1:58.4F     $2625     Anibal Borjas    Tony Alagna   10-1   
6    Sweet Mary Lou
 2, Sweet Lou-World Apart       7     1     2     1     1:54.3M     $12950     Johnathan Ahle    Tony Alagna   6-1   
7    Luisa Hanover
 2, Captaintreacherou s-
 Lillian Hanover       -     -     -     -     -     -     Jason Bartlett    Tony Alagna   5-1   
8    Abbys Dance
 3, Papi Rob Hanover-
 Moonlit Dance       1     0     1     0     -     $2475     Joe Bongiorno    Joe Bongiorno   2-1   
9    Blue Jean Baby
 3, Arthur Blue Chip-
 St Lads Billiejean       23     4     6     4     1:57.3M     $16001     Tyler Miller    John Stubits   15-1   
10    House Blend
 3, Philos Hanover-
 Kahlua Queen   L    17     1     5     3     1:55.1F     $31370     Patrick Ryder    Thomas Cancelliere   10-1   
[11    Turn Up The Music
 3, Tall Dark Stranger-
 Dance Blue       7     0     1     0     -     $7135     Steve Smith    Joe Bongiorno   8-1   
   
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 03, 2025, 11:53:44 PM
If that's the case I got that wrong.

Chose 2 duds and a cheap claimer over 11 drives at Y, wow.

Probably pick up a dcs too.

Fuck you and Bartlett!   ngc3
Why the lowlife cursing here to people?
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Lar4400 on December 04, 2025, 02:24:23 AM
Attn: all Big M haters, there has and will never be a better track that ever existed that even comes close to comparing to the meadowlands. It’s the Mecca of the sport and will always be. Give Mr. Gural credit for investing in this place because if the big m goes the entire industry will follow. Wise up.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 04, 2025, 10:32:18 AM
Attn: all Big M haters, there has and will never be a better track that ever existed that even comes close to comparing to the meadowlands. It’s the Mecca of the sport and will always be. Give Mr. Gural credit for investing in this place because if the big m goes the entire industry will follow. Wise up.

No harness track has ever come close to allowing the amount of CAW handle as the meadolands. Thats absolutely for sure. Far ahead of the pack in ripping off their long time gamblers
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 10:53:14 AM
No harness track has ever come close to allowing the amount of CAW handle as the meadolands. Thats absolutely for sure. Far ahead of the pack in ripping off their long time gamblers

Track filled with cheating scumbags.

Including CAW in which its legality is being challenged.

Already highly unethical and disgusts gamblers.

Anything for a buck in their pocket.

These geriatric schmuck suck asses here want to bring back those good old days.

There were some, they're long gone though.

Freezing weather and a crappy card - not my money today.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 04, 2025, 11:10:13 AM
Attn: all Big M haters, there has and will never be a better track that ever existed that even comes close to comparing to the meadowlands. It’s the Mecca of the sport and will always be. Give Mr. Gural credit for investing in this place because if the big m goes the entire industry will follow. Wise up.
    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:13:04 AM
Why the lowlife cursing here to people?

Listen fuckface, Mike is the nice guy.

I'm not.

You want to shill for druggers and cheaters, CAW who are welcomed with opened arms by that greedy decrepit old cunt, you've done that.

That's ok, but venting not  ngc3.

You're censoring nobody, just antagonizing.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Mazola on December 04, 2025, 11:13:47 AM
    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

Oh its ok to be corrupt because everyone else is lol.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:21:18 AM
    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

No one thinks it because you said it, that's ludicrous.

Corruption is unacceptable here or anywhere.

Harness Racing - Honest - fans, gamblers, horseman deserve better.

They've been failed by corrupt, incompetent involved parties.

Yes, harness racing needs to be killed in its current form, and if resurrected - by none of these associations, regulatory and usual suspects.

Die!  ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:28:35 AM
Oh its ok to be corrupt because everyone else is lol.
Pacer 2 thinks harness racing is thriving  ngc3

Just not in Florida and California  ngc3

He started that thread about what sport is not corrupt.

He, Pacer 2 is USTA all the way - I'll bet on it!  ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 04, 2025, 01:56:34 PM
Attn: all Big M haters, there has and will never be a better track that ever existed that even comes close to comparing to the meadowlands. It’s the Mecca of the sport and will always be. Give Mr. Gural credit for investing in this place because if the big m goes the entire industry will follow. Wise up.

Like some, maybe a few, I've been at the Meadowlands since it opened. Like many, while I am a "supporter" of Gural and what he's trying to do, I do not agree with everything he's done and how he goes about doing various things. I support him getting a casino. I give Gural credit for what he's done at the Meadowlands. I couldn't care less if he-----as people accuse him of-----whines, bitches, moans, etc. However, as it relates to "the product" being offered, the quality, and his position on CAW, I absolutely do not agree with any of what/where he's at. There is another meeting coming up in January on the CAW issue. The last meeting yielded some positive discussion. Whatever the outcome of this next meeting is, I don't know if he will implement any substantial, long-term action step on this or not.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 04, 2025, 01:57:48 PM
    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

That's not a surprise. It's kind of like the party you are not invited to, LOL.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 02:50:50 PM
The losers are the supporters and want to bet the BigM  tmbz1:

He supports cheats, yes, all over his track.  tmbz1

He allows CAW, yes and it's horrible for the gambler.  tmbz1

He has been unsuccessful in getting a casino since he started 14 years ago, yes.  tmbz1

Are gamblers and honest horseman, horses getting fucked at the BigM, yes.  tmbz1

Case fucking closed scumbags!   ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: dougie on December 04, 2025, 05:07:26 PM
    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.
No doubt that harness racing has a lot of cheaters/crooks within it's ranks. But after watching the NFL so far, it's hard to believe that the NFL's referees aren't corrupt, blind, or just stupid. LOL!
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 06:44:17 PM
No doubt that harness racing has a lot of cheaters/crooks within it's ranks. But after watching the NFL so far, it's hard to believe that the NFL's referees aren't corrupt, blind, or just stupid. LOL!

So are you getting enough corruption, blind, stupid shit in your life because if not I'm sure there's more out there you can find besides football and racing.  ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 07:30:14 PM
This is interesting. Four good purses on Thursday and none on Friday. No Mohawk on Thursday. Will M1 handle 2 million?

Will they hit a $1mil, and about 55% of that would be CAW.

Disgusting!

Not a penny of my dough! 
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: dougie on December 04, 2025, 07:52:08 PM
So are you getting enough corruption, blind, stupid shit in your life because if not I'm sure there's more out there you can find besides football and racing.  ngc3
A lot more. I equate much of harness racing legitimacy on the same par as my days watching/betting Jai-Alai at Dania. LOL! As for pro-sports like football, I think many of those players are betting big bucks on the side.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 07:54:55 PM
A lot more. I equate much of harness racing legitimacy on the same par as my days watching/betting Jai-Alai at Dania. LOL! As for pro-sports like football, I think many of those players are betting big bucks on the side.

A chance to lose their giant salaries, sponsors, their rep, their job, possibly go to jail too...do it.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: dougie on December 04, 2025, 08:08:16 PM
Kinda like poor Odell Beckham Jr. whose can't seem to get by on the 100 million he's earned. A lot of fans chuckled at that one! LOL! I wouldn't bet no over/under on him! LOL!
 
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 04, 2025, 11:18:53 PM
Listen fuckface, Mike is the nice guy.

I'm not.

You want to shill for druggers and cheaters, CAW who are welcomed with opened arms by that greedy decrepit old cunt, you've done that.

That's ok, but venting not  ngc3.

You're censoring nobody, just antagonizing.
You proved my point.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:21:42 PM
The Meadowlands Racetrack  11.gn

"The Meadowlands Racetrack
does not make a profit from its horse racing operations
alone; it operates at a significant loss and requires substantial state subsidies and revenue from sports betting to cover operating costs and purses. The owner has explicitly stated the venue is not profitable on its own.
Financial Realities

    Operating Losses: The racetrack consistently incurs losses from its core racing business. In 2024, an additional $11.5 million from sports betting revenue was used to cover these operating losses.
    State Subsidies: The Meadowlands, along with Monmouth Park, relies heavily on an annual pool of $20 million in state taxpayer money designated to subsidize horse racing purses. The owner, Jeff Gural, has indicated they "couldn't survive" without this state aid. (Welfare Billionaire Jeff  ngc3)
    Declining Revenue: Handle (total money wagered) on horse racing has been in decline for years, making it harder for the revenue generated to sustain current purse levels or operational expenses.
    Sports Betting Revenue: The partnership with FanDuel for sports betting provides crucial ancillary revenue. A portion of this revenue is mandated to go towards purses, and the remainder helps cover the operational shortfall.
    Future Uncertainty: The current subsidies are set to continue through 2029, but the owner has emphasized the need for a casino license at the Meadowlands for the long-term survival of the racetrack and the sport in New Jersey.

In essence, the Meadowlands complex generates significant overall tax revenue for the state of New Jersey, but the racetrack division itself requires external funding to remain operational."
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 04, 2025, 11:22:48 PM
RACE 8 - Meadowlands - NJ - December 4, 2025*** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS ***
Conditions: "EXIT 16W" POP UP SERIES Winners of 4 But Not More Than 7 (F&M, N/W L3 or 3 YO 8) Extended PM Races or $100,000 Life as of 11/15 Legs 12/4 & 12/11 - Final 12/18 for $37,500
Gait: TrotPurse: 27,500 Class: 5u w4-nw7Distance: 1 Mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 28-1
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
6    A Real Legend    6    1°/H    2/1Q    3/1T    2/1H    1/1   1:53.4    27.2   *0.80     Jason Bartlett    Melanie Wrenn
3    Hey Porter
 3, Bar Hopping-
 Chelsees A Winner    3    4/2    4/4    2°/1    1/1H    2/1   1:54.0    27.4   4.30     Brett Beckwith    Enrico Robinson
4    Scudo Hanover
 3, International Moni-
 Shared Past    4    2/H    3/2T    5/3H    4/3    3/2H   1:54.1    27.3   2.20     Braxten Boyd    Robert Baggitt Jr
1    Kovu As    1    5/3Q    5/5Q    7/5H    5/4H    4/6H   1:55.0    28.0   41.00     Joe Bongiorno    Anthony Faulkner
5    Snowman Hanover    5    7/6Q    7/7T    6°/4H    6/5Q    5/7Q   1:55.1    28.2   57.00     Patrick Ryder    Richard Aiken
7    Queen Of America S    7    3°/1    1/1Q    1/1    3/1H    6/8   1:55.2    29.2   13.60     Johnathan Ahle    Noel Daley
2    White Shoe Hanover    2    6/4T    6°/6H    4°/2T    7/5H    7/9H   1:55.3    29.0   16.30     Tyler Miller    Julie Miller
8    P L Quinella    8    X8X/10Q    8/17T    8/25H    8/30H    8/50   2:03.4    32.4   110.00     Bradley Chisholm    Anthony Faulkner
Time:    28.3   56.3    (28.0)   1:26.0    (29.2)   1:53.4    (27.4)    
 
RACE 9 - Meadowlands - NJ - December 4, 2025*** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS ***
Conditions: "EXIT 16W" POP UP SERIES 2 & 3 Year Old Fillies N/W $25,000 (N/W L2 or NJSO $30,000) Life as of 11/15 Legs 12/4 & 12/11 - Final 12/18 for $32,500
Gait: PacePurse: 23,175 Class: nw 25000LT Distance: 1 Mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 28-1
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
7    Luisa Hanover
 2, Captaintreacherou s-
 Lillian Hanover    7    4/3    4/3T    5/3T    4/3Q    1/T   1:53.3    28.1   1.80     Jason Bartlett    Tony Alagna
1    She Stings
 2, Perfect Sting-Lady Lou    1    1/Q    2/1Q    2°/1    2/H    2/T   1:53.4    29.0   7.50     Brett Beckwith    Cory Stratton
3    Cover The Crown
 3, Courtly Choice-
 Always Covers    3    7/8    7°/7H    6°/4    6/4    3/2Q   1:54.0    28.3   26.10     Bradley Chisholm    Darran Cassar
11    Turn Up The Music
 3, Tall Dark Stranger-
 Dance Blue    [11    6/6H    6°/6Q    4°/2H    3/2H    4/2H   1:54.0    29.0   30.20     Steve Smith    Joe Bongiorno
8    Abbys Dance
 3, Papi Rob Hanover-
 Moonlit Dance    8    2°/Q    1/1Q    1/1    1/H    5/3H   1:54.1    29.3   *1.00     Joe Bongiorno    Joe Bongiorno
5    Sweet Sweet Time
 2, Sweet Lou-
 As Time Goes By    5    3/1Q    3/2H    3/2H    5/3H    6/4H   1:54.2    29.2   42.60     Anibal Borjas    Tony Alagna
10    House Blend
 3, Philos Hanover-
 Kahlua Queen    10    11/15Q    9°/10    7°°/5Q    7/5H    7/6Q   1:54.4    29.1   53.10     Patrick Ryder    Thomas Cancelliere
6    Sweet Mary Lou
 2, Sweet Lou-World Apart    6    9/11Q    10/10Q    10/8Q    8/6T    8/6T   1:55.0    28.4   8.80     Johnathan Ahle    Tony Alagna
4    Buildmeupbuttercu p
 3, He`s Watching-
 Classy Hidden Rose    4    8/9Q    8/8H    9°/7Q    9/9Q    9/13H   1:56.1    30.1   64.90     Jacob Cutting    Anthony Regina
2    Helen Back Again
 3, Lazarus N-Swifty Nifty    2    5/5Q    5/5Q    8/6Q    10/9T    10/16Q   1:56.4    31.0   56.90     Braxten Boyd    Jenna Cornelison
9    Blue Jean Baby
 3, Arthur Blue Chip-
 St Lads Billiejean    9    10/13T    11/13    11/13Q    11/19T    11/31   1:59.4    32.3   75.00     Tyler Miller    John Stubits
Time:    27.1   55.2    (28.1)   1:24.3    (29.1)   1:53.3    (29.0)       
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 04, 2025, 11:23:21 PM
Bartlett won BOTH of his drives tonight.  The handle was over $1.5 million as well.
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:25:38 PM
You proved my point.

Change your diaper and try not to be so irritated.  ngc3

No one with a brain agrees with you, definitely not one fucking real gambler, honest horseman unless they are a loser too!  ngc3

If a horse could talk they'd kick you in the head, deservingly.  ngc3

Over 50% of the @ $1.430 mil handle tonight was CAW.  CAW CAW CAW and CAW!  ngc3

You are a lowlife scumbag go suck Jeff's shitty asshole, cuntface!    ngc3

Lastly, drop dead!  ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: wizardofoz on December 04, 2025, 11:27:39 PM
May all you say happen to YOU!
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:27:48 PM
Bartlett won BOTH of his drives tonight.  The handle was over $1.5 million as well.

Made a G.  Jumped off 11 drives at Y to do that.  ngc3

My count was just a head add but I have it at @ $1.430 mil, with 1/2 coming from CAW!   ngc3

Are you coming here tomorrow or dropping dead tonight?  ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:28:57 PM
May all you say happen to YOU!

Amen  ngc3
Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 04, 2025, 11:29:49 PM
Change your diaper and try not to be so irritated.  ngc3

No one with a brain agrees with you, definitely not one fucking real gambler, honest horseman unless they are a loser too!  ngc3

If a horse could talk they'd kick you in the head, deservingly.  ngc3

Over 50% of the @ $1.430 mil handle tonight was CAW.  CAW CAW CAW and CAW!  ngc3

You are a lowlife scumbag go suck Jeff's shitty asshole, cuntface!    ngc3

Lastly, drop dead!  ;D

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Title: Re: Biggest Thursday card in years at the Meadowlands and 12 races!
Post by: Trigger on December 04, 2025, 11:31:27 PM
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Every voice in your head?  ngc3

USTA BOY!  ngc3

We got you!  ngc3
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