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Title: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 16, 2025, 08:33:56 PM
Blatant  62za.clp
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: pylon on October 16, 2025, 08:43:01 PM
I guess you missed the McClure drive in the 1st
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 16, 2025, 08:57:23 PM
I guess you missed the McClure drive in the 1st

 tmbz1 100% intentional, didn't want to re-qualify with a break so he took it easy and was one of the two favs out so valuable wagering race.

I did miss the drive, I used the 3,4,6,8 was happy to get something home.

Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: pylon on October 16, 2025, 09:43:55 PM
You missed the drive..your words..but you offered an explanation of the drive.....that takes talent
as for McNair...the horse was gaping down the backstretch and wasnt responding...it was the horse not the driver imo
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 16, 2025, 09:50:12 PM
You missed the drive..your words..but you offered an explanation of the drive.....that takes talent
as for McNair...the horse was gaping down the backstretch and wasnt responding...it was the horse not the driver imo

That's a horse that can go 51.

He sits off a 58 half at around a min.

We'll agree to disagree.

Anything is always possible but they're real characters there and AGCO are their cunt conspirators.
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 16, 2025, 09:55:34 PM
Here's the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq4_uek3zrQ
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on October 16, 2025, 09:59:56 PM
You missed the drive..your words..but you offered an explanation of the drive.....that takes talent
as for McNair...the horse was gaping down the backstretch and wasnt responding...it was the horse not the driver.

He was gapping the turn but there's no reason to duck inside again, where's he going there? He probably would have got 2nd had he swung out.
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 16, 2025, 10:05:50 PM
You mean duck in so you have no place to run  ngc3

Was waiting for someone to say it  tmbz1
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 16, 2025, 10:17:16 PM
At ZERO times during that race did McNair have the 3 in any other position than restraint. 

To ensure the loss he lets the only capable horse beat him, the 2.  He goes 1 fucking minute to the half no one in the world even that can go 151 is catching anyone that can go 152 or 153 a half a dozen lengths in front.

At what point during that video was that horse not under restraint?

He gapped?  He did lol  ngc3  he ducked wow game over, didn't even hit the super.

Doubles, p3, p5 end that race and every other fucking thing but a hi5, nice payouts...and the exacta and tri came back fucking short for 4-1, 42-1 and 11-1...

2    Barracuda Hanover    Tyler J Borth    $10.60    $7.30    $3.80
7    Ellington    Michael W Whelan       $30.30    $13.80
5    Late For Coffee    Jody C Jamieson          $5.60
6    Stay Humble    Todd Ratchford          
Race Type:    Distance: 1 Mile    Surface: Pace
Purse: $18,000       
Bet    Winning Numbers    Payoff
$1 EXACTA    2/7    $76.75
$1 OMNI    5/7    $8.30
$1 OMNI    2/5    $3.55
$1 OMNI    2/7    $9.00
$0.20 TRIFECTA    2/7/5    $61.28
$0.20 SUPERFECTA    2/7/5/6    $552.14
$1 DOUBLE    8/2    $16.15
$0.20 PICK THREE    5/8/2    $11.66
$0.20 PICK FIVE    2,3/1,6/5/8/2    $344.34

I'm waiting...
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Pacer 2 on October 16, 2025, 11:58:55 PM
At ZERO times during that race did McNair have the 3 in any other position than restraint. 

To ensure the loss he lets the only capable horse beat him, the 2.  He goes 1 fucking minute to the half no one in the world even that can go 151 is catching anyone that can go 152 or 153 a half a dozen lengths in front.

At what point during that video was that horse not under restraint?

He gapped?  He did lol  ngc3  he ducked wow game over, didn't even hit the super.

Doubles, p3, p5 end that race and every other fucking thing but a hi5, nice payouts...and the exacta and tri came back fucking short for 4-1, 42-1 and 11-1...

2    Barracuda Hanover    Tyler J Borth    $10.60    $7.30    $3.80
7    Ellington    Michael W Whelan       $30.30    $13.80
5    Late For Coffee    Jody C Jamieson          $5.60
6    Stay Humble    Todd Ratchford          
Race Type:    Distance: 1 Mile    Surface: Pace
Purse: $18,000       
Bet    Winning Numbers    Payoff
$1 EXACTA    2/7    $76.75
$1 OMNI    5/7    $8.30
$1 OMNI    2/5    $3.55
$1 OMNI    2/7    $9.00
$0.20 TRIFECTA    2/7/5    $61.28
$0.20 SUPERFECTA    2/7/5/6    $552.14
$1 DOUBLE    8/2    $16.15
$0.20 PICK THREE    5/8/2    $11.66
$0.20 PICK FIVE    2,3/1,6/5/8/2    $344.34

I'm waiting...

  Its clear to see the horse was off, he was gapping a few times and even the announcer declared he was very steppy!  Sorry you lost $2 but you seem to be hallucinating....
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 12:37:41 AM
  Its clear to see the horse was off, he was gapping a few times and even the announcer declared he was very steppy!  Sorry you lost $2 but you seem to be hallucinating....

Every person involved at that track could drop dead for all I care.

Their entire fucking family too. :)

If my stake was $2 it be two more than yours.

Your stake in all of racing is ZERO according to you.

You try so hard to be stupid.

You try so hard to be unlikable.

You and your emojis are going nowhere.

We own you, be a good boy and stay bad.

You are the token Plop in-house A+ asshole.  ;D

Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Ramone on October 17, 2025, 06:22:20 AM
Blatant  62za.clp

Axial wasn't close to right. Sorry, but you're blatantly incorrect.
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Kenny on October 17, 2025, 08:38:25 AM
Every person involved at that track could drop dead for all I care.

Their entire fucking family too. :)

If my stake was $2 it be two more than yours.

Your stake in all of racing is ZERO according to you.

You try so hard to be stupid.

You try so hard to be unlikable.

You and your emojis are going nowhere.

We own you, be a good boy and stay bad.

You are the token Plop in-house A+ asshole.  ;D

Look, the crybaby wannabe bully makes a whole thread so he can cry on Horseplop. Try putting on your best wifebeater and get out there and show us what you can do. Maybe you should watch the races instead of dreaming about Burke's cock.

Most pathetic of all is how you whine and cry but still watch and wager on that track. You are so full of shit your eyes are turning brown.
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 09:29:37 AM
Axial wasn't close to right. Sorry, but you're blatantly incorrect.

I get it.

You're biased.

You're Canadian.

McNair, MacDonald, McClure top cheats, they all are, they deserve worse but I hope they   11.gn

Reading your posts you're an explainer of all kinds of stuff there.

I provided a video link, please say at what time in the video the horse wasn't "close to right", looked right in the fucking stretch, forcibly buried.

Why would McNair with a 151 type horse sit off the half in a minute?

Chantilly II  ngc3
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 09:37:32 AM
Look, the crybaby wannabe bully makes a whole thread so he can cry on Horseplop. Try putting on your best wifebeater and get out there and show us what you can do. Maybe you should watch the races instead of dreaming about Burke's cock.

Most pathetic of all is how you whine and cry but still watch and wager on that track. You are so full of shit your eyes are turning brown.

Why do you need me to be your gay surrogate?

Every post a Burke cock and moi fantasy.

It's ok to be gay Kenny, just come out, because this is embarrassingly obvious. 

You're very high strung too.

Have fun at the manhole toilet bottoming.
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Pacer 2 on October 17, 2025, 10:36:02 AM
Every person involved at that track could drop dead for all I care.

Their entire fucking family too. :)

If my stake was $2 it be two more than yours.

Your stake in all of racing is ZERO according to you.

You try so hard to be stupid.

You try so hard to be unlikable.

You and your emojis are going nowhere.

We own you, be a good boy and stay bad.

You are the token Plop in-house A+ asshole.  ;D

   You're such a MORON its laughable!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Pacer 2 on October 17, 2025, 10:38:48 AM
Axial wasn't close to right. Sorry, but you're blatantly incorrect.
  Triggered is ALWAYS wrong!!  tmbz1ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 11:16:49 AM
Are you sure 42 emojis is enough?

It's not my intention for you to regress back into a child, I'm very sorry for any part I played there.

Provide me an address or location and I'll see that some coloring books reach you before you crawl back into your mother's vagina.

 
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: clearmind on October 17, 2025, 12:08:17 PM
       The horse. was obviously stiffed. He was steppy in the stretch because Mcnair was pulling so hard on him.. Look at the horse's head. It's almost at his chest.. Good luck trying to make some money at Mohawk.
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Cashout on October 17, 2025, 12:31:57 PM
You’d think he’d get called in for that.  He refused to tip the horse at any time.   And I’m not buying the steppy  B.S
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 12:41:02 PM
       The horse. was obviously stiffed. He was steppy in the stretch because Mcnair was pulling so hard on him.. Look at the horse's head. It's almost at his chest.. Good luck trying to make some money at Mohawk.

Thank you very much for watching the video and providing your objective analysis.

Since we've gotten mostly stupid remarks and hecklers, final opinions not based on specific visualized facts, you have provided dispositive evidence via your forensic interpretation - case closed.

If it would of went the other way, against what I saw and it was convincing I would of been equally thankful.

McNair wants to appeal, let him come here.



 
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 12:45:54 PM
You’d think he’d get called in for that.  He refused to tip the horse at any time.   And I’m not buying the steppy  B.S

 tmbz1

Thank you, as far as I can see the judges report is not out yet for that card, race.

https://standardbredcanada.ca/content/current-judges-reports.html

Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: tumbleweed on October 17, 2025, 12:52:51 PM
I agree with you Trigger. The horse was under a death grip the entire mile. He wanted no part of anything in that race. Slid him out and was running over the horse in front of him and went back inside to be locked
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 01:02:36 PM
I agree with you Trigger. The horse was under a death grip the entire mile. He wanted no part of anything in that race. Slid him out and was running over the horse in front of him and went back inside to be locked

I appreciate that and I'll even say that McNair pulling that stunt for pecuniary reasons like he / a beard / a partner of his wagered against is unfounded.

Why the trainer would allow the horse to run with instructions to take at easy, you might as well scratch.

I don't know the horse's schedule, maybe there is a stake ahead.

When isn't it about money one way or another though?  All I know there is more money to be wagered and won than the entire purse in that particular race with stiffing a 1/4 shot. 

Another fact is there was no racing on Tuesday, schedule change, more time to plan this type fucked up shit.   

No more fantasies about MST, I'll be watching the BC and likely wagering, a horse I'm following will land there but they're losing my business predominantly.  There is no sure thing there, that's just an opportunity for them to scam at will.  When it's not and we're betting against absolute monsters we're reaching and losing.

Lose lose.
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Brown jug on October 17, 2025, 05:54:49 PM
the trainers do not always know when one of these clowns is going to stiff his horse
but they sure as hell do after the race when they hand the lines back and say , ooops sorry my bad
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 06:15:15 PM
the trainers do not always know when one of these clowns is going to stiff his horse
but they sure as hell do after the race when they hand the lines back and say , ooops sorry my bad

You should of seen the look on Chantilly's trainer's face after that stiff job and the very next race following when JMac won, he wasn't in on it otherwise he was an Academy Award Winning Actor.  JMac is smiling and talking to him and he looked like he wanted to murder him, face, body language like who cares stfu and die, viciously angry in all expression. 

We have to find it and post it here!
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 06:35:44 PM
You should of seen the look on Chantilly's trainer's face after that stiff job and the very next race following when JMac won, he wasn't in on it otherwise he was an Academy Award Winning Actor.  JMac is smiling and talking to him and he looked like he wanted to murder him, face, body language like who cares stfu and die, viciously angry in all expression. 

We have to find it and post it here!

Too bad this is a incomplete version, when Gallucci and JMac confronted eachother live initiually it was a whole other story, but this still is telling.  This is Hot Country's win 8/8/25 race 4 at MST directly after race 3 where JMac stiffed Chantilly.  Gallucci and Millar Farms Hot Country's owner is also owner of Chantilly so they all looked fucked up. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbeJgrgfL5M&list=PL2cz0Se36kjiScfYDLzbOrU94UnD0D5je&index=505

MST 8/8/25 race 3, Chantilly undefeated going in getting fucked...Google AI called it a "puzzling" drive  ngc3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zllfmG_DRNg&list=PL2cz0Se36kjiScfYDLzbOrU94UnD0D5je&index=506

Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 06:51:06 PM
Too bad this is a incomplete version, when Gallucci and JMac confronted eachother live initiually it was a whole other story, but this still is telling.  This is Hot Country's win 8/8/25 race 4 at MST directly after race 3 where JMac stiffed Chantilly.  Gallucci and Millar Farms Hot Country's owner is also owner of Chantilly so they all looked fucked up. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbeJgrgfL5M&list=PL2cz0Se36kjiScfYDLzbOrU94UnD0D5je&index=505

MST 8/8/25 race 3, Chantilly undefeated going in getting fucked...Google AI called it a "puzzling" drive  ngc3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zllfmG_DRNg&list=PL2cz0Se36kjiScfYDLzbOrU94UnD0D5je&index=506

"AI Overview

Aftermath and controversy

    Puzzling trip: Both fans and analysts criticized the drive, suggesting MacDonald may have used the race as a training mile to save Chantilly for the upcoming Lynch Memorial.
    Driver questioned: MacDonald was requested to meet with racing officials following the race to discuss the puzzling trip."

 ngc3

Actual AGCO officials post interview after the JMac / Chantilly "puzzling" race questioning and right before bananas and a dump. ngc3

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNhNsmZ3KelGiRqf8p93LLwJHIc7uEaK453Q&s)
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Pacer 2 on October 17, 2025, 07:06:32 PM
"AI Overview

Aftermath and controversy

    Puzzling trip: Both fans and analysts criticized the drive, suggesting MacDonald may have used the race as a training mile to save Chantilly for the upcoming Lynch Memorial.
    Driver questioned: MacDonald was requested to meet with racing officials following the race to discuss the puzzling trip."

 ngc3

Actual AGCO officials post interview after the JMac / Chantilly "puzzling" race questioning and right before bananas and a dump. ngc3

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNhNsmZ3KelGiRqf8p93LLwJHIc7uEaK453Q&s)



        Its clear to see the horse was off, he was gapping a few times and even the announcer declared he was very steppy!  Sorry you lost $2 but you seem to be hallucinating.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: MST Race 5 - McNair Stiff Job #3 Axial 1/4 Odds
Post by: Trigger on October 17, 2025, 07:11:50 PM


        Its clear to see the horse was off, he was gapping a few times and even the announcer declared he was very steppy!  Sorry you lost $2 but you seem to be hallucinating.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

You've now said that twice in the same thread (see below from page 1 here), you must be starting to fizzle out...only 13 emojis this time opposed to 42 last time, looks like you're dying here... ;D

https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=81977.msg1231187#msg1231187
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