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General Category => Political Roundtable => Topic started by: Foalin at 4 on September 30, 2025, 01:53:10 PM
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Tonight the democrats will be shutting down the government! They hate President Trump, and will do anything to slow down the greatest president ever. Democrats want America to fund healthcare for illegals, THEY ARE NUTS!
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President Trump is just brilliant
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CORRECTION: BOTH parties 'SHUT DOWN' the government!
Please get your information to be "FACTUAL" instead of '1-SIDED'!
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Rainman2, do you support free healthcare for illegal migrants?
Very simple response required, yes or no.
Happy to answer your question next.
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CORRECTION: BOTH parties 'SHUT DOWN' the government!
Please get your information to be "FACTUAL" instead of '1-SIDED'!
It's pretty simple moron, there were two options, vote to keep government open, or vote to close government! Republicans don't have 60 votes, so democraps had to help. Democraps said no, shut it down!
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It's pretty simple moron, there were two options, vote to keep government open, or vote to close government! Republicans don't have 60 votes, so democraps had to help. Democraps said no, shut it down!
Sadly, only three Dems sided with the GOP for the "clean" continuing resolution to keep the government open. That made the vote 5 short of the 60 needed. It's always a gamble for each side when the government shuts down. But this now allows the administration to reduce the size of government even further. This was a bad play for the Dems whichever way they went.
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Sadly, only three Dems sided with the GOP for the "clean" continuing resolution to keep the government open. That made the vote 5 short of the 60 needed. It's always a gamble for each side when the government shuts down. But this now allows the administration to reduce the size of government even further. This was a bad play for the Dems whichever way they went.
Thin the heard... tmbz1
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When the Democrats held the majority under President Biden, Congress passed 13 continuing resolutions to keep the government open. There are videos of Sen. Schumer suggesting the government should NEVER shut down no matter the reason. Sadly, he is being "held hostage" by the far left of his party.
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Rainman2, do you support free healthcare for illegal migrants?
Very simple response required, yes or no.
Happy to answer your question next.
Democrats do not want free healthcare,
1. Current federal law
Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal programs like Medicare, Medicaid (except for emergency services), or ACA (Obamacare) subsidies.
They cannot buy ACA marketplace plans, even at full price.
2. What Democrats actually support
Many Democrats do support expanding access to health care for undocumented immigrants, but usually at the state/local level or for specific groups (like children, pregnant women, or DACA recipients).
For example, states like California, Illinois, and New York have created state-funded programs that let undocumented residents get health coverage. These are state choices, not federal mandates.
Nationally, most Democrats push for things like emergency room access, community clinics, and vaccinations for undocumented people — largely for public health reasons (to stop the spread of disease, reduce ER costs, etc.).
3. Why the “free healthcare for illegals” claim is misleading
It suggests Democrats want to automatically give full federal benefits to all undocumented immigrants — which is not true under current law.
It oversimplifies nuanced proposals (like limited state coverage or emergency care) into something that sounds extreme.
It’s mostly used as a political weapon to stoke anger.
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Thank you MR.TIM.
MAGAS are rats that just worship a DRAFT DODGIN COWARD and all have some worm crawlin thru their brain,like RFK.JR.
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Can An Illegal Immigrant Have Health Insurance?
Some states and Washington, D.C. provide full health insurance coverage to low-income immigrants, regardless of their legal status.
Qualified non-citizens are eligible for coverage through Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) if they meet state income and residency rules.
If you are here illegally, I don't want one cent of my tax dollars going toward your healthcare.
Leave or buy your own "private" coverage.
The worst are pregnant women that come here for the prenatal care, have their baby here and the baby now has birthright citizenship.
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Democrats do not want free healthcare,
1. Current federal law
Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal programs like Medicare, Medicaid (except for emergency services), or ACA (Obamacare) subsidies.
They cannot buy ACA marketplace plans, even at full price.
2. What Democrats actually support
Many Democrats do support expanding access to health care for undocumented immigrants, but usually at the state/local level or for specific groups (like children, pregnant women, or DACA recipients).
For example, states like California, Illinois, and New York have created state-funded programs that let undocumented residents get health coverage. These are state choices, not federal mandates.
Nationally, most Democrats push for things like emergency room access, community clinics, and vaccinations for undocumented people — largely for public health reasons (to stop the spread of disease, reduce ER costs, etc.).
3. Why the “free healthcare for illegals” claim is misleading
It suggests Democrats want to automatically give full federal benefits to all undocumented immigrants — which is not true under current law.
It oversimplifies nuanced proposals (like limited state coverage or emergency care) into something that sounds extreme.
It’s mostly used as a political weapon to stoke anger.
Well Tim you're not even close! Chuck Schumer said, "Not a single dollar goes to providing health insurance for undocumented immigrants. Not one penny." Well Chuck this is not about INSURANCE, it's about how illegal immigrants receive HEALTH CARE! It's all about the "TPS" Temporary Protected Status holders who represent 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE! They are illegal immigrants who can go to a hospital, and the bill will be paid by the FEDERAL Government. Republicans say NO, Democrats say YES. That is what this government shutdown is about!
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Well Tim you're not even close! Chuck Schumer said, "Not a single dollar goes to providing health insurance for undocumented immigrants. Not one penny." Well Chuck this is not about INSURANCE, it's about how illegal immigrants receive HEALTH CARE! It's all about the "TPS" Temporary Protected Status holders who represent 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE! They are illegal immigrants who can go to a hospital, and the bill will be paid by the FEDERAL Government. Republicans say NO, Democrats say YES. That is what this government shutdown is about!
You are 100% right. There are millions of American children who have food insecurity. Spend that money on our citizens in need. If you want to live here, come in legally. Like my grandparents did. Through Ellis Island. Not running across the Rio Grande in the middle of the night. I have a lot of empathy for folks fleeing these countries. But do it legally. The right way.
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For sure Dougie! But the democraps have been 100% LYING about this, using word salads to fortify their position. THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYING FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS HEATHCARE! IT'S UNDISPUTED! And democraps shut down the government over it, republicans will not cave to the minority concerns
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Rainman2, do you support free healthcare for illegal migrants?
Very simple response required, yes or no.
Happy to answer your question next.
Please prove this statement beyond a reasonable with facts, not right-wing fiction!
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It's pretty simple moron, there were two options, vote to keep government open, or vote to close government! Republicans don't have 60 votes, so democraps had to help. Democraps said no, shut it down!
WRONG ANSWER! It takes 2 to tango and they both failed in this! They BOTH SHUT IT DOWN! Please stop the nonsense about who did it with false information yet again and your right-wing fiction!
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Sadly, only three Dems sided with the GOP for the "clean" continuing resolution to keep the government open. That made the vote 5 short of the 60 needed. It's always a gamble for each side when the government shuts down. But this now allows the administration to reduce the size of government even further. This was a bad play for the Dems whichever way they went.
And more excuses for the republicans as they are the party in power and couldn't get it right!
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When the Democrats held the majority under President Biden, Congress passed 13 continuing resolutions to keep the government open. There are videos of Sen. Schumer suggesting the government should NEVER shut down no matter the reason. Sadly, he is being "held hostage" by the far left of his party.
Again, it takes 2 to tango! They did it then and they failed now! End of story!
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Democrats do not want free healthcare,
1. Current federal law
Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal programs like Medicare, Medicaid (except for emergency services), or ACA (Obamacare) subsidies.
They cannot buy ACA marketplace plans, even at full price.
2. What Democrats actually support
Many Democrats do support expanding access to health care for undocumented immigrants, but usually at the state/local level or for specific groups (like children, pregnant women, or DACA recipients).
For example, states like California, Illinois, and New York have created state-funded programs that let undocumented residents get health coverage. These are state choices, not federal mandates.
Nationally, most Democrats push for things like emergency room access, community clinics, and vaccinations for undocumented people — largely for public health reasons (to stop the spread of disease, reduce ER costs, etc.).
3. Why the “free healthcare for illegals” claim is misleading
It suggests Democrats want to automatically give full federal benefits to all undocumented immigrants — which is not true under current law.
It oversimplifies nuanced proposals (like limited state coverage or emergency care) into something that sounds extreme.
It’s mostly used as a political weapon to stoke anger.
FYI, I got the 'republican screwjob' as i have to hunt again for insurance at the beginning of 2026 yet again!
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For sure Dougie! But the democraps have been 100% LYING about this, using word salads to fortify their position. THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYING FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS HEATHCARE! IT'S UNDISPUTED! And democraps shut down the government over it, republicans will not cave to the minority concerns
WRONG AGAIN AGAIN! Please speak the truth instead of your continued right wing fiction! They both caused the shutdown! End of story!
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You are 100% right. There are millions of American children who have food insecurity. Spend that money on our citizens in need. If you want to live here, come in legally. Like my grandparents did. Through Ellis Island. Not running across the Rio Grande in the middle of the night. I have a lot of empathy for folks fleeing these countries. But do it legally. The right way.
Yes, I agree with that
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WRONG AGAIN AGAIN! Please speak the truth instead of your continued right wing fiction! They both caused the shutdown! End of story!
This again proves the ignorance of the radical left! Because of the filibuster rule in the Senate, this bill needs 60 votes to pass or the government shuts down. 52 Republicans voted to keep government open, the bill needed 8 democrat votes of their 45 members. 3 voted to keep government open, 42 voted to shut government down. Who owns this? DEMOCRAPS! Good thing you aren't a accountant rainman!
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Yes, I agree with that
Thanks Tim! I always believe the legal way is the best way to go. Even the Democrats admitted the border was a major problem. Trump has been sucessful at reducing the numbers big time. What I would hope is that both parties can work together to create a policy that allows a quicker road to citizenship. Almost all Americans are children of immigrants. We want to encourage good hard working people to become Americans. As long as the countries that they come from can give us enough information so they may be vetted fairly and quickly. Good people are great for America.
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Again, it takes 2 to tango! They did it then and they failed now! End of story!
I never learned to tango! LOL!
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This again proves the ignorance of the radical left! Because of the filibuster rule in the Senate, this bill needs 60 votes to pass or the government shuts down. 52 Republicans voted to keep government open, the bill needed 8 democrat votes of their 45 members. 3 voted to keep government open, 42 voted to shut government down. Who owns this? DEMOCRAPS! Good thing you aren't a accountant rainman!
CORRECTION, this shows how really IGNORANT and DUMB you are by making a STUPID statement!
You still missed the memo that it takes 2 do do the tango!
All we see here is a 'WHINY' right wing "CRYBABY" because 'your people' (sorry dougie-had to borrow that from our past) are to blame also and you won't accept that! Your problem not everyone elses!
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I never learned to tango! LOL!
And today's politicians don't know how to do it too! SAD, ISN'T IT!