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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: kantseeback on September 04, 2025, 03:12:04 PM
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I know some went to M1, what about the rest? Are there any tracks racing that cheap stock?
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I know some went to M1, what about the rest? Are there any tracks racing that cheap stock?
I'm sure they went to their class wherever.
But no matter what there is always a place in Canada, there is never a more bottomless bottom of the barrel than those fucking dumps in Ontario! ngc3
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Think some to Monti and Tioga
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I'm sure they went to their class wherever.
But no matter what there is always a place in Canada, there is never a more bottomless bottom of the barrel than those fucking dumps in Ontario! ngc3
I know a while back I was having conversations with a horseman from St John's, and the grandstand up there was the size of a barn, and the purses were for hundreds.
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I know a while back I was having conversations with a horseman from St John's, and the grandstand up there was the size of a barn, and the purses were for hundreds.
I'm afraid if I do bad things in this life when I die I might end up gambling at one of these hell holes for all eternity.
I might have to become a nice guy :P
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I know some went to M1, what about the rest? Are there any tracks racing that cheap stock?
Just look at race 1 at the Big M tonight for your answer.
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I'm afraid if I do bad things in this life when I die I might end up gambling at one of these hell holes for all eternity.
I might have to become a nice guy :P
He showed me a video clip of a race he drove up there, there were only 3 horses in the race!!!
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Pulling Amish buggies
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HUGE PURSES AND TOP HORSES TONITE!! tmbz1
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I know some went to M1, what about the rest? Are there any tracks racing that cheap stock?
White Castle
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White Castle
That's not nice, horses are better than all of the shit birds that work in that toilet.
All you did with that remark was give us a craving, they go down easy and fly out the same. ;D
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That's not nice, horses are better than all of the shit birds that work in that toilet.
All you did with that remark was give us a craving, they go down easy and fly out the same. ;D
In 2017 my friend came to visit me, and he wanted to go to Freehold. We went. The staff in the room we were in were extra friendly as was the parking attendant, but the racing product sucked. The last time I was at that track was many years before.
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In 2017 my friend came to visit me, and he wanted to go to Freehold. We went. The staff in the room we were in were extra friendly as was the parking attendant, but the racing product sucked. The last time I was at that track was many years before.
Very boring, and I used love a good matinee card. Guys like Cat would do double duty, now look at Jersey, 1 track 2 days a week, even Atlantic City racing is gone. Bring in good eats, entertainment and attract people - gambling, say no more, they fucked it all up.
When you think of culture in racing, it's actually us, we're still here, keeping it and if gone, the memory alive.
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Very boring, and I used love a good matinee card. Guys like Cat would do double duty, now look at Jersey, 1 track 2 days a week, even Atlantic City racing is gone. Bring in good eats, entertainment and attract people - gambling, say no more, they fucked it all up.
When you think of culture in racing, it's actually us, we're still here, keeping it and if gone, the memory alive.
I also enjoyed the good old days at Freehold when the horses and drivers were top quality and jumped between M1 and Freehold, of course that's when M1 was the premiere harness track in the country.
Cat Manzi, Jackie Mo, Herve, Campbell etc. were all driving there in the afternoon and then the same drivers would be at M1 that night.
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I used to like it when Jack E Lee made all those crazy nicknames for the drivers and 1 trainer.
Jersey Joe Shwind
Hungry Jack Baggit
The Colonel Herve Fillion
Jackie Mo
The Catman
He called George Anthony Burger King
etc
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I also enjoyed the good old days at Freehold when the horses and drivers were top quality and jumped between M1 and Freehold, of course that's when M1 was the premiere harness track in the country.
Cat Manzi, Jackie Mo, Herve, Campbell etc. were all driving there in the afternoon and then the same drivers would be at M1 that night.
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As I recall, Herve only drove regularly at Meadowlands 1 or 2 years at most and didn't do very well, he didn't have the horsepower, plus the driving colony was very deep. Most of his doubleheaders were either to Yonkers or Roosevelt.
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As I recall, Herve only drove regularly at Meadowlands 1 or 2 years at most and didn't do very well, he didn't have the horsepower, plus the driving colony was very deep. Most of his doubleheaders were either to Yonkers or Roosevelt.
Herve was a staple at Freehold back in the 80's and 90's and then slowed down, prior to that I don't know. Then Case came along and won more races as the majority of his drives in Yonkers in a year than Filion won doing double duty, and his legend was solidified, I think 1000+ and broke Filion's record.
Herve Filion:
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Herve owned Freehold for alot of years, but I first remember him when he drove regularly at Brandywine before moving to the NY circuit. He dominated there for several years with alot of cheap claimers but did have a few top horses including Nansemond who beat Albatross in the Little Brown Jug.
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As I recall, Herve only drove regularly at Meadowlands 1 or 2 years at most and didn't do very well, he didn't have the horsepower, plus the driving colony was very deep. Most of his doubleheaders were either to Yonkers or Roosevelt.
You are correct, Herve at night was partial to the NY tracks and occasionally even popped up on some Sunday's at Green Mountain.
I was just generalizing in my post, it can be picked apart.
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Never been to Green Mountain, but as I recall it was a 13/16-mile track with $700 purses. I remember Mickey McNichol used to drive at Georgetown Raceway in Delaware where all the purses were $500 before he hooked up with Joe Caraluzzi and moved to Meadowlands.
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Never been to Green Mountain, but as I recall it was a 13/16-mile track with $700 purses.
I have never been to Green Mountain either but some time ago I read a blog about that track, and they mentioned that Herve showed up on some Sunday's.
I do remember him being one of the regulars at YR and RR back in the 80's.
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The Freehold horses have become the Meadowlands' Friday night card since December. Races for 68 and under, 71 and under, and 74 and under were the normal conditions at Freehold. Plus, with 3 to 4 Amateur races a night, the Freehold horses fit those classes too.