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Title: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: GonePostal on August 15, 2025, 10:59:16 PM
Danny Noble 1-9.....And before you say anything no I didn't lose my 2 dollars.....BAD look for the sport!!!!!
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Trigger on August 15, 2025, 11:13:23 PM
Danny Noble 1-9.....And before you say anything no I didn't lose my 2 dollars.....BAD look for the sport!!!!!

Fuck that bro, you're 100% correct - held the horse back so hard while stiffing him the horses head was bent looking at it's hooves.

Hope it was worth it, he should be sat down...

In the fucking electric chair!  ;D
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Chips N Salsa on August 15, 2025, 11:22:18 PM
You two retards should never be allowed to comment ever again.  The horse wears no over check you blind idiots and could barely keep up.  Rode the wood and finished up but had not brush.  Gp look at past lines and show me wear he can trot home fast??????  WTF
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: GonePostal on August 15, 2025, 11:47:30 PM
Your right chips 27 and change 2 starts ago my bad.... I guess all the gamblers that made him 1-9 missed that too...
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: GonePostal on August 15, 2025, 11:52:29 PM
And furthermore I can see why he didn't leave the gate tonight ...I mean that first qtr 29 flat would scare any driver from doing what he does every start!!!!
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: The Unstable on August 15, 2025, 11:54:36 PM
This guy isn’t stiffing all the time.
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Trigger on August 16, 2025, 12:17:00 AM
You two retards should never be allowed to comment ever again.  The horse wears no over check you blind idiots and could barely keep up.  Rode the wood and finished up but had not brush.  Gp look at past lines and show me wear he can trot home fast??????  WTF

 11.wj

He Cheated, horse lost by 1 flying up with no room sat 5-6 lengths behind buried, go fuck yourself and your cheating buddies drivers can drop dead!  ;D
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 16, 2025, 09:35:28 AM
A long suspension should be considered. Just awful.

Ohio is on the list of states with decoupling on the horizon. Not good at all
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: JT on August 16, 2025, 10:16:32 AM
Noble is kind of like Gingras, meaning gun to the lead and try and hang on. Its his driving style. It certainly wasn't his Dad's style. This race looked a little shady. He didn't gun to the lead and then he let himself get boxed in. However there were no anomalies in the betting, but the payouts were obviously huge. Lorentzon has been on fire recently so maybe this horse wasn't gassed up this night. To me it's 50/50.
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 16, 2025, 10:39:59 AM
Noble is kind of like Gingras, meaning gun to the lead and try and hang on. Its his driving style. It certainly wasn't his Dad's style. This race looked a little shady. He didn't gun to the lead and then he let himself get boxed in. However there were no anomalies in the betting, but the payouts were obviously huge. Lorentzon has been on fire recently so maybe this horse wasn't gassed up this night. To me it's 50/50.

How many Parinutuel wins does the horse have lifetime? Program shows 11 but that's including fairs.
If the answer is 9 I think we know what happened in the nw10
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: JT on August 16, 2025, 10:42:19 AM
How many Parinutuel wins does the horse have lifetime? Program shows 11 but that's including fairs.
If the answer is 9 I think we know what happened in the nw10
Nice catch.I didn't look at the racing form.. just watched the replay last night
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Papillon on August 16, 2025, 10:52:58 AM
Danny Noble 1-9.....And before you say anything no I didn't lose my 2 dollars.....BAD look for the sport!!!!!

agree when you are 1-9 you are not supposed to be buried on the cones with lengths to make up

just my $0.02 opinion
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Chips N Salsa on August 16, 2025, 01:33:04 PM
How many Parinutuel wins does the horse have lifetime? Program shows 11 but that's including fairs.
If the answer is 9 I think we know what happened in the nw10

I'll research and let you know.  If in fact that's the case then driver and trainer should both be suspended.  If not the case then it's a nothing burger.  horse wore no overcheck and didn't look like he could keep up.  I'll go look at all his lines and then decide but after just watching the race i wouldn't see anything super wrong.
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Chips N Salsa on August 16, 2025, 01:36:02 PM
4 wins as 2yo all goldenrod kyss - so i don't know if they consider those PM wins?
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Chips N Salsa on August 16, 2025, 01:40:58 PM
3 wins at 3yo and all were 100% pm wins and the 4yo and 5yo would all be pm's - it's gonna come down to how they classify kyss and kentucky fairs?  They have changed so many times and I think it's up to the race secretary.  Yr's ago canada never counted fairs.  You could have 20 fair wins 2-3yo and go race in NW4.  They also didn't count the money from fairs way back when.  It was like those races never existed.

So based on the race i don't see anything wrong but after looking at the lines I would say someone better check because Danny may have not wanted to lose that win and take him out of that class. 
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Birdfantammy on August 16, 2025, 03:17:29 PM
Danny Noble 1-9.....And before you say anything no I didn't lose my 2 dollars.....BAD look for the sport!!!!!

Honestly, I can't understand how this guy has not received a lifetime ban for stiffing!   Biggest crook there is.  I stopped playing Scioto last year.  One of the reasons is that asshole.  He has been suspended but not long enough.  His stiff jobs are regular.  Ohio racing is full of criminals.  Won't bet my money there. 
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on August 16, 2025, 04:34:02 PM
3 wins at 3yo and all were 100% pm wins and the 4yo and 5yo would all be pm's - it's gonna come down to how they classify kyss and kentucky fairs?  They have changed so many times and I think it's up to the race secretary.  Yr's ago canada never counted fairs.  You could have 20 fair wins 2-3yo and go race in NW4.  They also didn't count the money from fairs way back when.  It was like those races never existed.

So based on the race i don't see anything wrong but after looking at the lines I would say someone better check because Danny may have not wanted to lose that win and take him out of that class.

The problem with the equipment excuse is that the horse wore the exact same equipment the week prior when he went right down the road at odds on. Am I wrong?
If the horse was lame then that's a whole different disgusting issue.
From what almost certainly seems the case the horse is credited with 9 lifetime wins. This is real bad.
As mentioned before. These horsepeople dont want to decoupling, right? Makes no sense for casinos to keep this stuff on their property.
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Trigger on August 16, 2025, 05:32:26 PM
Noble is kind of like Gingras, meaning gun to the lead and try and hang on. Its his driving style. It certainly wasn't his Dad's style. This race looked a little shady. He didn't gun to the lead and then he let himself get boxed in. However there were no anomalies in the betting, but the payouts were obviously huge. Lorentzon has been on fire recently so maybe this horse wasn't gassed up this night. To me it's 50/50.

There is a world of betting outside the mutual pools.  Book makers, sports books, off shore, all kinds of stuff happening, where they can make their own odds up, go by track odds or fix / freeze the odds.  Guy gets a $50k bet and says I'll give you 1/5 fixed, he makes another call and horse is buried.

I've been there when it happened on the side of the happener.   ;D   
Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: Pacer 2 on August 16, 2025, 05:40:19 PM
There is a world of betting outside the mutual pools.  Book makers, sports books, off shore, all kinds of stuff happening, where they can make their own odds up, go by track odds or fix / freeze the odds.  Guy gets a $50k bet and says I'll give you 1/5 fixed, he makes another call and horse is buried.

I've been there when it happened on the side of the happener.   ;D


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Title: Re: Scioto Downs Race 13
Post by: John Moody on August 16, 2025, 09:42:27 PM
total stiff
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