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Title: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 12:32:40 AM
Grand River (5/8's track) has a card that starts at 12:30pm, a matinee tomorrow.  7 of the 11 races look nice, some big Finals too.  Weather looks nice in Elora (Ontario), Canada tomorrow so likely FAST.

The finest, most talented Canadian drivers cheating lowlife scumbag cunts from the Mohawk driver colony will be there tomorrow and doing double duty at Mohawk that night.

Lots of stakes races all over too - Ocean, Monti, Red Mile, Mohawk, Dresden....specia l mention ****Yall Keep Dreaming -  fastest 1/2 mile 3 yo trotter racing this year will in Ocean Downs race 2 at 7pm.****

In T-breds the Manitoba Derby  ngc3 at Ass(hole)iniboia Downs   ngc3 ngc3 too!  I'm passing on it!

This thread will be blowing up tomorrow with wagers - see ya!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Jctoronto on August 04, 2025, 08:00:07 AM
Trigger..enjoyed your press release 'adjustment'

Mohawk's biggest names along with the top B track druvers plus one interloper, Mr J Stratton, participate on the 11 race card.

As you said lots of good races on the 5/8 w/ passing lane, 80 degrees and breeze..great day to be out there outside of Kitchener...(Ill be taking advantage of the provincial holiday live)..itll be solid crowd and handle, and if youre there, just 45 mins to Mohawk for 6:30 monday nighter too.

The top features:
 r10 fillies Battle of the Belles, all in off eliminations last week
r11 the boys Battle of Waterloo no elims , just tough young customers from variety of tighteners.

Good luck if youre participating or out there.  'Industry Day'

Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: seen2much on August 04, 2025, 09:27:39 AM
It is interesting that Stratton traveled to drive some longshots.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 10:16:06 AM
It is interesting that Stratton traveled to drive some longshots.

 tmbz1

Good info, thanks, but let's study it out.

I chased JMac to Red Mile last week and lost almost $70 with some blind bets on him as study time was scarce, had a good day though overall but 0/3 on him.

Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 10:34:40 AM
It is "Industry Day" in Canada

Battle of Waterloo at Grand River--race 9-#5 Allstar Maniac w JMac looks tough to beat-will be odds on
Manitoba Derby at Assiniboia Downs(which I like)-#7 Take Charge Tom looks 1/5 for Diodoro
Hastings has their "Big Day"--5 stakes races and the other 4 races are upper level allowance/optional claimers

and of course the real highlight is at Ocean Downs race 2--Y'All Keep Dreaming-who will pay $2.10 to win but is fun to watch....over/under I have at 18 lengths for margin of victory

good luck to all tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 10:43:20 AM
It is "Industry Day" in Canada

Battle of Waterloo at Grand River--race 9-#5 Allstar Maniac w JMac looks tough to beat-will be odds on
Manitoba Derby at Assiniboia Downs(which I like)-#7 Take Charge Tom looks 1/5 for Diodoro
Hastings has their "Big Day"--5 stakes races and the other 4 races are upper level allowance/optional claimers

and of course the real highlight is at Ocean Downs race 2--Y'All Keep Dreaming-who will pay $2.10 to win but is fun to watch....over/under I have at 18 lengths for margin of victory

good luck to all tmbz1

YKD will pay nothing yes, but I look at cold ex, tri and sups.  In larger fields, not 6 horse like this we've seen 2.10 horse on top pay at times 3 figure ex, tri, and sups, sometimes 4 figure on the sups with huge longshots behind them.

The 1st race at Grand River I'm going 2,4,5.  I think the 8 is going to struggle with top drivers inside, and those are the likely beneficiaries.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 10:49:12 AM
YKD will pay nothing yes, but I look at cold ex, tri and sups.  In larger fields, not 6 horse like this we've seen 2.10 horse on top pay at times 3 figure ex, tri, and sups, sometimes 4 figure on the sups with huge longshots behind them.

The 1st race at Grand River I'm going 2,4,5.  I think the 8 is going to struggle with top drivers inside, and those are the likely beneficiaries.

absolutely

I will try the same in The Manitoba Derby

I did not mention Fort Erie-no stakes but a very good card for them starting at 12:15 EST
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 10:55:10 AM
absolutely

I will try the same in The Manitoba Derby

I did not mention Fort Erie-no stakes but a very good card for them starting at 12:15 EST

Good luck with that race! 

Papi the reason I'm winning lately, while not winning a lot of those races I'm betting, is because of not going for every combo and box on everything and I'm using the longshot more on top than reverse, and reverse as a saver -there is a time and place for that.  Or the cold numbers and have 5, $10 straight tris and sups w/ only 2-4 part wheels.

I'm not picking a million winners but my betting tactics have improved, far from perfect, but yeh, better.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 11:05:14 AM
Good luck with that race! 

Papi the reason I'm winning lately, while not winning a lot of those races I'm betting, is because of not going for every combo and box on everything and I'm using the longshot more on top than reverse, and reverse as a saver -there is a time and place for that.  Or the cold numbers and have 5, $10 straight tris and sups w/ only 2-4 part wheels.

I'm not picking a million winners but my betting tactics have improved, far from perfect, but yeh, better.

I get it--anyone who boxes a superfecta that is 12 combinations--and 11 are losers before the race starts

I stick with win bets --but if it a heavy favorite I do a cold exacta or trifecta as you mentioned

good luck today
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 11:13:26 AM
I get it--anyone who boxes a superfecta that is 12 combinations--and 11 are losers before the race starts

I stick with win bets --but if it a heavy favorite I do a cold exacta or trifecta as you mentioned

good luck today
In the 13th at Chester Harrah's yesterday I bet the 4.

10wp
2 ex ky bx
2 ex straight
1 tri and reverse

Cost was $116.

Luckily the 1/9 ran out and the 4 won.

I didn't bet the sup because it was $60 each way.

$120 further commitment would of swept the super pool of $1960.

That's betting more than 5% of the pool.

The 4 I knew would be long, but still on top double the money for the exacta I played.  Funny thing if the 1/9 would of won or finishes 2nd to the 4 I might of actually lost money.  This time I got lucky, but I didn't have time to go thoroughly go through the race so the bets went down like that, this time.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 11:25:06 AM
Good luck today boys. I will probably fire a little at Grand River and Finger Lakes, possibly Ellis Park. The Ass track is always tough sledding. I should have fired an extra 80 bucks on that pick 5 at Mountaineer yesterday and included the 8 in leg 3. I hit the final 2 legs.. it paid $1500 for a 50 cent pick 5 My ticket was like 80 bucks, it would have been 160 instead. Live and learn, on to the next. Luckily I slammed the trifecta with the 9 on top in the last race ;D

The real JT
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 11:37:59 AM
Good luck today boys. I will probably fire a little at Grand River and Finger Lakes, possibly Ellis Park. The Ass track is always tough sledding. I should have fired an extra 80 bucks on that pick 5 at Mountaineer yesterday and included the 8 in leg 3. I hit the final 2 legs.. it paid $1500 for a 50 cent pick 5 My ticket was like 80 bucks, it would have been 160 instead. Live and learn, on to the next. Luckily I slammed the trifecta with the 9 on top in the last race ;D

The real JT

The real JT lol good one  ngc3

I had an all the 9th race p3 but East End crapped out it died.

Gad you blasted that tri!  Well done! 

East End cost me $500+ in future KYD bets, good thing I went with Godolphins other, Sovereignty to actually win in the end over 1k.  Those loses seem to keep adding up for me with that asshole!   ngc3
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 11:38:43 AM
Is this todays official handicapping thread?  Monday is TROT day at Saratoga harness. Usually some value.

We should have ADMIN create an exclusive handicapping section.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 11:43:37 AM
Is this todays official handicapping thread?  Monday is TROT day at Saratoga harness. Usually some value.

We should have ADMIN create an exclusive handicapping section.

These are my GR 1st race wagers, $97.60 and a different format from my ADW:

Grand River Raceway (H)                97.60
   Race 1    4.00    EX    BX+2+4+5    NaN.00
   Race 1    4.00    TRI    BX+2+4+5    24.00
   Race 1    0.20    TRI    BX+2+4+5+8    4.80
   Race 1    1.00    SPR    2+4+5 / 2+4+5 / 2+4+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    30.00
   Race 1    0.20    SPR    BX+2+4+5+8    4.80
   Race 1    5.00    WIN    2+4    10.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 11:45:19 AM
Is this todays official handicapping thread?  Monday is TROT day at Saratoga harness. Usually some value.

We should have ADMIN create an exclusive handicapping section.

I always keep one eyeball on Saratoga harness--except Mondays because it is all trot monday

same for Plainridge-their all trot card is tuesdays
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: gogasgoboom on August 04, 2025, 11:55:20 AM
It is "Industry Day" in Canada

Battle of Waterloo at Grand River--race 9-#5 Allstar Maniac w JMac looks tough to beat-will be odds on
Manitoba Derby at Assiniboia Downs(which I like)-#7 Take Charge Tom looks 1/5 for Diodoro
Hastings has their "Big Day"--5 stakes races and the other 4 races are upper level allowance/optional claimers

and of course the real highlight is at Ocean Downs race 2--Y'All Keep Dreaming-who will pay $2.10 to win but is fun to watch....over/under I have at 18 lengths for margin of victory

good luck to all tmbz1

It's Industry Day at Grand River. Today is Civic Holiday in Canada.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 12:02:49 PM
Good luck to all the Grand River players.

Im all american and all trot at saratoga today

Race 1
#3 Jessies Doll... Poor girl always has bad rivers until today. Ratty mare should get a perfect trip here behind #5 and gets devaux
#5 Long Dan...unasked last 2 loooking for class relief. Should be leaving today

dd 35/5
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 12:12:53 PM
Good luck to all the Grand River players.

Im all american and all trot at saratoga today

Race 1
#3 Jessies Doll... Poor girl always has bad rivers until today. Ratty mare should get a perfect trip here behind #5 and gets devaux
#5 Long Dan...unasked last 2 loooking for class relief. Should be leaving today

dd 35/5

Freaking announcer calls the #3 to win.  Nope...lost by a nose. Jimmy D should have not pulled at the 3/4.  #5 broke.  Tough start

Spa race 2
#5 Red White..another rat but hopefully less ratty than the rest.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 12:18:10 PM
Freaking announcer calls the #3 to win.  Nope...lost by a nose. Jimmy D should have not pulled at the 3/4.  #5 broke.  Tough start

Spa race 2
#5 Red White..another rat but hopefully less ratty than the rest.

Bello, you focus, and make it happen today!

Good luck bro! 
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 12:24:19 PM
It's Industry Day at Grand River. Today is Civic Holiday in Canada.

thanks for the correction

i am still learning ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 12:24:23 PM
Some more added to GR race 1:

Race 1    0.20    SPR    BX+1+2+4+5    4.80
   Race 1    0.20    TRI    BX+1+2+4+5    4.80

Now at $107.20 lol, get the Vaseline out!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 12:33:58 PM
GR race 1
$1sf key 5/1-2-4.. $6 bucks
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 12:36:20 PM
You got the 5 in race 2 bello. Hopefully ya played it. Im like Pap.. I try to avoid the trotting races like the plague
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 12:36:39 PM
Race 1    0.20    TRI    BX+1+2+4+8    4.80
   Race 1    0.20    SPR    BX+1+2+4+8    4.80

Now at 116.80
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 12:40:19 PM
You got the 5 in race 2 bello. Hopefully ya played it. Im like Pap.. I try to avoid the trotting races like the plague

Yes, bittersweet after that nose loss race 1 for the DD and to be live in the p5

Saratoga race 3

#3 going to Vegas...Gets away from lower level NY Steaks types and finds softies

p3  3/124/3
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 12:46:37 PM
Didn't respect the JJ driver change.

Harris, dick head whipped the 4 so hard at the wire he lost the photo, horse lifted his head up!

JT your instincts were good with the 5 on top!   tmbz1

Next...

Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 12:50:55 PM
I could have had 100 tickets and never included JJ on the 3

Ellis Park pick 5
1,2,3,5/1,4,5,7/4,7,8/5/6,7,8,9
$96 donuts
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 04, 2025, 12:51:07 PM
 Hoping Jmac has another big day, him winning the Oaks was a thing of beauty. Kingston's finest!

 Hastings, wow that brings back memories of the Mario Gutierrez show. When he came from Mexico- he was mopping the floor with any of the other drivers there. Great guy to boot, was so happy to see him have success.

 Vancouver is a lovely place, too bad Northlands is done. I always liked going to their cards in Ed
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Jctoronto on August 04, 2025, 12:51:40 PM
GRAND RIVER OPENER

5 3 4
ALL THE WAY AROUND.

I can ASSURE you this place and prov spent $$$ and time to put this 5/8 mile with passing lane together..AND for them to play follow the leader a la Mohawk or any half mile, very disappointing...a bsolutely no show, nor action.
The drug laden Cullen connection owned the opener.

Showcase event of their Grand River calendar.
Put on a show boys...otherwise, just another night at the factory
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 12:54:19 PM
Hoping Jmac has another big day, him winning the Oaks was a thing of beauty. Kingston's finest!

 Hastings, wow that brings back memories of the Mario Gutierrez show. When he came from Mexico- he was mopping the floor with any of the other drivers there. Great guy to boot, was so happy to see him have success.

 Vancouver is a lovely place, too bad Northlands is done. I always liked going to their cards in Ed

He did get dq'd with Brue in a $100k race, that was bad.

But all these Mohawk guys are light years ahead of the bologna sandwich po-dunk drivers.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 12:55:07 PM
I could have had 100 tickets and never included JJ on the 3

Ellis Park pick 5
1,2,3,5/1,4,5,7/4,7,8/5/6,7,8,9
$96 donuts
Well that's cooked.. next
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 04, 2025, 12:57:08 PM
He did get dq'd with Brue in a $100k race, that was bad.

But all these Mohawk guys are light years ahead of the bologna sandwich po-dunk drivers.

 Winning the Oaks more than makes up for it.
 + 2 breeders crowns last year

  he's always been a top notch gentleman
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 12:57:37 PM
GRAND RIVER OPENER

5 3 4
ALL THE WAY AROUND.

I can ASSURE you this place and prov spent $$$ and time to put this 5/8 mile with passing lane together..AND for them to play follow the leader a la Mohawk or any half mile, very disappointing...a bsolutely no show, nor action.
The drug laden Cullen connection owned the opener.

Showcase event of their Grand River calendar.
Put on a show boys...otherwise, just another night at the factory

 tmbz1
Man knows his Canadian shit!
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 04, 2025, 12:58:28 PM
Well that's cooked.. next

 Turn the page, there's always other races

 Goodluck
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 12:59:15 PM
Saratoga Race 4   124 cannot separate

Pocono  #3 Lone Speed   dd  3-2   p4  3/2/5/138
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:05:52 PM
I'm doing mostly stakes, here is $111 on bobble brains / Ian Moore in the 6th at GR:

Grand River Raceway (H)                111.00
   Race 6    50.00    WIN    2    NaN.00
   Race 6    20.00    EX    2 / 3    20.00
   Race 6    10.00    EX    2 / 5    10.00
   Race 6    10.00    TRI    2 / 3 / 5    10.00
   Race 6    5.00    TRI    2 / 5 / 3    5.00
   Race 6    5.00    SPR    2 / 3 / 5 / 1+2+3+4+5    10.00
   Race 6    3.00    SPR    2 / 5 / 3 / 1+2+3+4+5    6.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 01:06:46 PM
here is the shortlist of 1/5 or 1/9 shots.....

race 9 Grand River--#5 Allstar Magic-....JMac makes the lead and its goodnight Irene(3:35 EST)

race 2 Hastings--#1 Avana-completely towers over these(6 PM EST)

race 2 Ocean ....#4 Y'All Keep Dreaming-we all know(7 PM EST)

race 6 Assiniboia #7 Take Charge Tom-tons the best(10:40 PM EST)

now I try to figure out the cold  punch exactas

Bello can verify my approach to these over the years...sometimes value can be found
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:07:07 PM
Finger Lakes Pick 5
3/1 all/all/all
$144
This could be a bad loss even if it comes in..
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:09:41 PM
Finger Lakes Pick 5
3/1 all/all/all
$144
This could be a bad loss even if it comes in..

That bet in FL 3rd makes me wet lol!   tmbz1

GL JT! 

We started off slower than an old lady's bowel movement, let's pick it up, eyy!  ;D

Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:12:40 PM
here is the shortlist of 1/5 or 1/9 shots.....

race 9 Grand River--#5 Allstar Magic-....JMac makes the lead and its goodnight Irene(3:35 EST)

race 2 Hastings--#1 Avana-completely towers over these(6 PM EST)

race 2 Ocean ....#4 Y'All Keep Dreaming-we all know(7 PM EST)

race 6 Assiniboia #7 Take Charge Tom-tons the best(10:40 PM EST)

now I try to figure out the cold  punch exactas

Bello can verify my approach to these over the years...sometimes value can be found
This strategy can work... most people try to beat the favorite in those type of races.. sometimes with my singles I feel really strong about I look for the cold exacta or do my choice on top with all or try to find value for 2nd
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 01:14:02 PM
here is the shortlist of 1/5 or 1/9 shots.....

race 9 Grand River--#5 Allstar Magic-....JMac makes the lead and its goodnight Irene(3:35 EST)

race 2 Hastings--#1 Avana-completely towers over these(6 PM EST)

race 2 Ocean ....#4 Y'All Keep Dreaming-we all know(7 PM EST)

race 6 Assiniboia #7 Take Charge Tom-tons the best(10:40 PM EST)

now I try to figure out the cold  punch exactas

Bello can verify my approach to these over the years...sometimes value can be found

Yep...Nail it CP!
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:15:34 PM
That bet in FL 3rd makes me wet lol!   tmbz1

GL JT! 

We started off slower than an old lady's bowel movement, let's pick it up, eyy!  ;D
This bet started in race 1 but I get the drift. One leg down..now we need the 1 and at least 2 bombs.. but first things first and that is to get the 1 home in leg 2
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:17:54 PM
Backing up my failed pick 5 at ellis.. race 2
$1sf key1/4-5-7
$6.00
My great grandmother used to say "always bet de gray"
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 01:20:08 PM
Finger Lakes Pick 5
3/1 all/all/all
$144
This could be a bad loss even if it comes in..

I could never do this ...But I love rooting for you. Rachel Sells at 1-5 in race 1.  I havent tuned into FL much this year, but last year I think she started at something like 3-100
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 01:21:43 PM
Yep...Nail it CP!

Sir Bello--i miss the days when it was just me and you on another site and we did Freehold every race everyday-we had tons of fun and made some decent scores

I guess this was about 15 years ago

fascinating how horse racing can create bonds that last decades--and here we are now tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:23:09 PM
I could never do this ...But I love rooting for you. Rachel Sells at 1-5 in race 1.  I havent tuned into FL much this year, but last year I think she started at something like 3-100
Thanks bello.. i wouldn't do it if I could not afford it. I set a weekly budget. My wife and I work our asses off and we all have our vices.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:25:32 PM
Red Mile race 12 -

The story, it's short, Dougie McNair came all the way in from Mohawk to Kentucky to QUA the horse, #2 Bank On Me.  Maybe for his bro (purchase potential?), maybe for the trainer.  I'm going $462 on the race.  He broke last out so I will have the cancellation button on standby.

Red Mile (H)                462.00
   Race 12    50.00    WP    2    NaN.00
   Race 12    4.00    EX    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    28.00
   Race 12    2.00    EX    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 2    14.00
   Race 12    2.00    TRI    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    84.00
   Race 12    1.00    TRI    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    42.00
   Race 12    0.40    SPR    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    84.00
   Race 12    0.20    SPR    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    42.00
   Race 12    10.00    EX    BX+2+5    20.00
   Race 12    2.00    TRI    2+5 / 2+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    24.00
   Race 12    0.40    SPR    2+5 / 2+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    24.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 01:26:29 PM
we are all cheering you home JT

I like the all button-and it certainly took balls singling anything trained by Rachel Sells--a notorious 5% win percentage trainer

lets get the #1 home in race 2 then let the racing gods take over tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:27:18 PM
Sir Bello--i miss the days when it was just me and you on another site and we did Freehold every race everyday-we had tons of fun and made some decent scores

I guess this was about 15 years ago

fascinating how horse racing can create bonds that last decades--and here we are now tmbz1
Great story and yes it can.. there are people i see only during LBJ week and we start off the conversation right where we left it off from the previous year tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:28:29 PM
This bet started in race 1 but I get the drift. One leg down..now we need the 1 and at least 2 bombs.. but first things first and that is to get the 1 home in leg 2

My bad on wrong race, maybe I shouldn't be wagering today LOL   ngc3

Motherfucking #1, DO IT!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:31:19 PM
Red Mile race 12 -

The story, it's short, Dougie McNair came all the way in from Mohawk to Kentucky to QUA the horse, #2 Bank On Me.  Maybe for his bro (purchase potential?), maybe for the trainer.  I'm going $462 on the race.  He broke last out so I will have the cancellation button on standby.

Red Mile (H)                462.00
   Race 12    50.00    WP    2    NaN.00
   Race 12    4.00    EX    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    28.00
   Race 12    2.00    EX    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 2    14.00
   Race 12    2.00    TRI    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    84.00
   Race 12    1.00    TRI    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    42.00
   Race 12    0.40    SPR    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    84.00
   Race 12    0.20    SPR    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    42.00
   Race 12    10.00    EX    BX+2+5    20.00
   Race 12    2.00    TRI    2+5 / 2+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    24.00
   Race 12    0.40    SPR    2+5 / 2+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    24.00
Definitely have the cancel button on standby man.. don't be chatting with us leading up to that bet lol
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 01:33:51 PM
Sir Bello--i miss the days when it was just me and you on another site and we did Freehold every race everyday-we had tons of fun and made some decent scores

I guess this was about 15 years ago

fascinating how horse racing can create bonds that last decades--and here we are now tmbz1

Yeah, Freehold was my go to track until the very end. I kept in touch with Josh for a long time on text and email, than he stopped responding. I am worried about him. We often hung together on my trips to Vancouver. I finally met Phil Boston Horses last year.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:34:04 PM
Definitely have the cancel button on standby man.. don't be chatting with us leading up to that bet lol

 ngc3

We're chatting, he breaks, recovers and wins, another outcome.

Rarely happens, but... ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:38:47 PM
6 fuckface with his look back around the turn, motherfucker thought wow, I got this, NOT!

I love JT!

b2b2b2b longshots please!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 01:41:05 PM
Thanks bello.. i wouldn't do it if I could not afford it. I set a weekly budget. My wife and I work our asses off and we all have our vices.

When I was working I would travel every week and hit virtually every track in the country. Typical bet was $50 to win and $20 exactas if I had any. Also $20 dds.

Now I have unexpected family expenses and retired.  Bets dwindled to 2 to 10 dollars per race.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:41:39 PM
Phew!! that was close, now we just sit back and pray for a few bombs. It very well could be a massive losing ticket.. I've seen pick 5's there pay 20 bucks lol
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 01:42:58 PM
Finger Lakes Pick 5
3/1 all/all/all
$144
This could be a bad loss even if it comes in..

Fucker made you sweat

Saratoga race 6  p3  25/57/34
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Jctoronto on August 04, 2025, 01:43:11 PM
GRAND RIVER r 3
Crazed front end sets up a very logical 8-1 quebec closer..the horse in the hands now if mr Dom.Gladu, at .298, with Samuel Fillion (no realtion to legendary Filion clan) a VERY CAPABLE B track Canadian driver, circles and gets it late in lanefrom the trailing #9 post.

And the tote board rejoices.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:43:17 PM
Phew!! that was close, now we just sit back and pray for a few bombs. It very well could be a massive losing ticket.. I've seen pick 5's there pay 20 bucks lol

Da pool...

PICK FIVE    $40,864
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 01:48:21 PM
When I was working I would travel every week and hit virtually every track in the country. Typical bet was $50 to win and $20 exactas if I had any. Also $20 dds.

Now I have unexpected family expenses and retired.  Bets dwindled to 2 to 10 dollars per race.

yeah-that was me also from about 1985-2010--not every race of course

then the rebates(which NJ doesn't allow) started, that tilted everything against me....and the betting after the bell got much worse-so now its strictly recreational and I pick my spots very carefully--and almost always just a win bet
the exotics are slammed by the CAW action even more than the win pool

I can see why Trigger and others play exotics.... they are receiving a rebate
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 01:51:58 PM
When I was working I would travel every week and hit virtually every track in the country. Typical bet was $50 to win and $20 exactas if I had any. Also $20 dds.

Now I have unexpected family expenses and retired.  Bets dwindled to 2 to 10 dollars per race.
I understand.. but #1 you are here and#2 you can still play..Everyone has something going on with family issues, its rough. My go to bet when I was younger and broke were $5 exactas and $1tri keys.. now it's mostly pick 5's with a few tris or supers thrown in. I grew up going to Scioto all the time, 30 minutes from my house. Now I live in Delaware 5 minutes from the LBJ, but will go to Scioto a few times a year. I definitely bet more now, seeing as you can off your phone. I downloaded the tvg app during covid and it's been all downhill since then lol.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 01:56:53 PM
Pocono race 4   p3  138/367/7
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 01:57:58 PM


I can see what Trigger and others play exotics they are receiving a rebate

I'm my own CAW  ngc3

Last week wagers were $5418 (Mo - Sun).

Now I have a 50 page or so rebate % document listing every track, every conceivable wager if they are stand alone wagers, futures....  Ultimately the computer figures it out, I don't have the time, but I spot checked, it's accurate.

Guessing it will be shy of $400 Tue and that is a VIP rate - but I'm usually surprised and it's more.  Believe me I'm very, very low on the VIP totem pole.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 02:08:43 PM
race 9 Grand River

the obvious lineup is 5-2 and that what I usually would play cold, but this one doesn't figure to pay much more than $4 since the after the bell action will destroy the price if it does line up that way--no bet no value

I often try to find an alternative when looking to play these short numpers-but I cannot endorse any other combination

next study is race 2 Hastings

good luck JT ....get at least one price
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 02:13:44 PM
At lease they did not put the chalk up at Finger Lakes. This helps a bit JT. Baez looking over his shoulder makes him his own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 02:14:14 PM
What a stupid fucking inquiry.

If anything the 3 pinballed 2 horses and no inquiry on him.

At least 4-1 ml.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 02:17:49 PM
At lease they did not put the chalk up at Finger Lakes. This helps a bit JT. Baez looking over his shoulder makes him his own worst enemy.

also a little help that #6 was technically the 3rd choice at 4/1

as JT said--he easily could collect and lose if its gets real ugly

two more shots tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 02:29:08 PM
Sorry fellas the site is acting up again. 4000 bots will do that. I'm not working today, start a new job tomorrow. Thanks for the well wishes. Yes that was a dumb inquiry. The 6 staying up helps a little. Got to fade the 2 and 5 in race 4 and get the 1or 7 home
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 02:34:06 PM
Fucker made you sweat

Saratoga race 6  p3  25/57/34

Saratoga P3 good for $83 2 PW

Saratoga race 9  p4  7/37/12/46
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 02:37:25 PM
  ngc3  82zx.1  ngc3

Speaking about my 4th place finish through emoji!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 02:38:55 PM
very good Bello tmbz1

the all trot horizontals usually pay higher than expected
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 02:40:53 PM
Saratoga P3 good for $83 2 PW

Saratoga race 9  p4  7/37/12/46
Good hit bello Wally helped you in leg 2
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 02:42:59 PM
8 or 6 or 3 and JT is in profit! 

GL JT! 
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 02:45:55 PM
Saratoga P3 good for $83 2 PW

Saratoga race 9  p4  7/37/12/46

Right on Bello!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 02:46:42 PM
My will pays are gonna be ugly lol. Like I said when I posted the bet, it very well might win, but lose lol. 1,2,4,5,7 is a loss some more then others..3,6and 8 are winners. #1 would be quite ugly.. it's the risk ya take. I've had it go the other way and a couple bombs come in and it pays massive.. especially there at The Finger
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 02:47:06 PM
PSA - #9 horse at Grand River is a second tier horse behind the #1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 02:52:27 PM
8 or 6 or 3 and JT is in profit! 

GL JT!
Thanks man I'm gonna need it. Sorry there bobble let ya down in race 6
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 03:05:26 PM
I played a pick 4 at the finger..
All/all 7/7 $32 bucks
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:09:56 PM
Here's $391.20 centered around bobble in Grand River 10th, #9 P N G Shadow:

Grand River Raceway (H)                391.20
   Race 8    0.40    PK4    1+2+3+4+5+6+8 / 5 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    NaN.00
   Race 9    2.00    PK3    5 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    16.00
   Race 10    50.00    WP    9    100.00
   Race 10    4.00    EX    BX+9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    64.00
   Race 10    0.40    TRI    9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    22.40
   Race 10    0.40    TRI    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    22.40
   Race 10    0.20    SH5    9 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8    72.00
   Race 10    0.20    SH5    1+2+3+4+5+8 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8    72.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 03:12:07 PM
Disaster $112 loss.. the seas parted for the #1 there. Thanks for rooting me on I appreciate it tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:13:08 PM
Make it $423.20

  Grand River Raceway (H)

Race 10    4.00    DBL    9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    32.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Jctoronto on August 04, 2025, 03:15:13 PM
Fillion/Stratton
AFTER 7 races at GRAND RIVER
serious B track driver Samuel Fillion
with three wins in first seven races on the under card

Two rail faves and a trailing #9 position 8-1 victories, three diff trainers.
Both off the pace and in front.
.297 %....you can NEVER leave him out without thorough look

Fillion..not Filion.
(and he"d be first to remind you)

His day now done, Jordan Stratton joined the fray in
Race #7, though nothing with bomb #2, Stratton will steer two #6 horses in the double feature, races 10 and 11

Race 10, few and far between Jonathan Drury off, J Stratton on. Filly broke last week at start ot the Belles Elim, but salvaged a slot for today's final.
153,000 cdn purse
IF this Stratton 15-1 ml i#6 FRONT AND CENTER is to hit the Super hi5...keying her 4th ir 5th seem like the spots. 3rd cannot be discounted.

In the $227,000 cdn finale for the 2 yr old Ontario sired boys, Stratton inherits the 8-1 ml #6 NO WAITLIST.
Again, this feels like under ticket material at best..but a gamer for a 4th or 5th key. (Bottom of tri if this one gets 'Stratton-ized')
Tyler Moore, Ian's son the trainer here.  This top Canadian event trainer 'whos who' list includes Menary with two, Mcnair sr. with two entries, daddy Jamieson, Mceneny and the fave to be driven by Mcclure for indeed Father Ian Moore'.

Good luck

Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:15:29 PM
Disaster $112 loss.. the seas parted for the #1 there. Thanks for rooting me on I appreciate it tmbz1

One day soon it'll fall into place...

2 b2b longshot singles, then all all all and 3 more longshots

SPA

6 figure pool.... ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 03:19:18 PM
Here's $391.20 centered around bobble in Grand River 10th, #9 P N G Shadow:

Grand River Raceway (H)                391.20
   Race 8    0.40    PK4    1+2+3+4+5+6+8 / 5 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    NaN.00
   Race 9    2.00    PK3    5 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    16.00
   Race 10    50.00    WP    9    100.00
   Race 10    4.00    EX    BX+9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    64.00
   Race 10    0.40    TRI    9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    22.40
   Race 10    0.40    TRI    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    22.40
   Race 10    0.20    SH5    9 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8    72.00
   Race 10    0.20    SH5    1+2+3+4+5+8 / 9 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+8    72.00
Good luck man, trailers make me nervous.

I played a 40 cent pick 4 there All/5/All/3
$25.20
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:22:42 PM
Good luck man, trailers make me nervous.

I played a 40 cent pick 4 there All/5/All/3
$25.20

Yeh we all'ed a 9/5 shot in our .40 p4s!   ngc3

GL buddy!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 03:28:24 PM
race 9 Grand River

I will play a small 5/2 cold exacta--might not pay as short as I thought
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:28:50 PM
Maybe I am retarded.

I have $855.20 deep into 2 horses that broke their last pm race!

Red Mile Race 12 - #2
Grand River Race 10 - #9

Ohhhh that cancellation button will be hotter than the nuclear suitcase button if Putin 1st striked us!  ;D

Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 03:32:03 PM
Yeh we all'ed a 9/5 shot in our .40 p4s!   ngc3

GL buddy!   tmbz1
Always a bummer when you use the all button and the favorite wins..hell it just happened to me twice  lol.I thought McNair would get there but the 3 quit to soon.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:33:50 PM
Down $227.80 on 2 races today, Grand River Race 1 & 6. 

So far... :P
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:41:52 PM
9 horse JT, and at least 10-1 ml odds.

Let's get the 7 - 7 home!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 03:45:20 PM
JJ's horse fucked JMac, Davis fucked up the fractions though like an idiot and goes 54 to half by himself.  We actually got lucky with that 1/9 shot winning!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: bello on August 04, 2025, 03:48:05 PM
race 9 Grand River

I will play a small 5/2 cold exacta--might not pay as short as I thought

They could have at least followed the script!  It would have been easier.  And it paid huge!
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 03:57:36 PM
They could have at least followed the script!  It would have been easier.

Ill take it any way I can get it

the payoff was a pleasant surprise tmbz1

 nice to know I can I can still coldpunch them ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:00:22 PM
Sentimental bets on Dax:

Race 10    1.00    DBL    1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 / 8    9.00
   Race 10    2.00    DBL    9 / 8    2.00
   Race 11    5.00    WP    8    10.00
   Race 11    1.00    EX    BX+8 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    14.00
   Race 11    0.20    TRI    8 / 1+2+3+4+6 / 1+2+3+4+6    4.00
   Race 11    0.20    TRI    1+2+3+4+6 / 8 / 1+2+3+4+6    4.00
   Race 11    0.20    SH5    8 / 1+2+3+4+6 / 1+2+3+4+6 / 1+2+3+4+6 / 1+2+3+4+6    24.00
   Race 11    0.20    SH5    1+2+3+4+6 / 8 / 1+2+3+4+6 / 1+2+3+4+6 / 1+2+3+4+6    24.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:01:43 PM
Nice cold play 5/2 Papi!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 04:06:03 PM
Nice cold play 5/2 Papi!   ;D

thanks

just trying to keep up with you guys tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 04:06:56 PM
race 9 Grand River

I will play a small 5/2 cold exacta--might not pay as short as I thought
Nice call Pap.. I took your advice and played it straight for $20 bucks.. it paid $187.. you single handily made up for my finger lakes pick 5 loss Sorry I might have lessened your payout ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:12:32 PM
The other horses I liked back and forth on the 9 at least made the entire hi5!  ngc3
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 04:14:40 PM
The other horses I liked back and forth on the 9 at least made the entire hi5!  ngc3
The other horses I liked back and forth on the 9 at least made the entire hi5!  ngc3
That was a wretched drive by bobble.. how are you a trailer and come away next to last.. sorry man.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:15:11 PM
Nice call Pap.. I took your advice and played it straight for $20 bucks.. it paid $187.. you single handily made up for my finger lakes pick 5 loss Sorry I might have lessened your payout ;D

See I psychiatrist 1st if you back my plays!  ngc3

Good job JT listening and following through!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 04:16:54 PM
Nice call Pap.. I took your advice and played it straight for $20 bucks.. it paid $187.. you single handily made up for my finger lakes pick 5 loss Sorry I might have lessened your payout ;D

glad I could be of help tmbz1

I was thrilled with the payout
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:19:23 PM
The other horses I liked back and forth on the 9 at least made the entire hi5!  ngc3
That was a wretched drive by bobble.. how are you a trailer and come away next to last.. sorry man.

It was too late to cancel because he ran up to JMac and by the time he backed off I had like 1 sec.  Need about 3-4 secs to cancel.  Backing off was a 100% cancel to be 9 horses in the race and last at that track if I could of made it.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 04:21:56 PM
See I psychiatrist 1st if you back my plays!  ngc3

Good job JT listening and following through!   tmbz1
No man, you've been killing it lately. Keep your head up. I liked the 9 but that was a tough race for me to pick anyways .. thats why I hit the all button on the pick 4 which will lose $ even if it comes in. Trailers always make me nervous especially on a 5/8.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 04:23:28 PM
glad I could be of help tmbz1

I was thrilled with the payout
I loved the 5 like everyone else but was stumped who to pick 2nd. Davis did quite well when he was at Northfield.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:27:28 PM
No man, you've been killing it lately. Keep your head up. I liked the 9 but that was a tough race for me to pick anyways .. thats why I hit the all button on the pick 4 which will lose $ even if it comes in. Trailers always make me nervous especially on a 5/8.

 tmbz1 Thanks!

I have a had a long consecutive win streak going into today, a week or almost, I'll have to check, very pleased.

2 days were good solid days, early on they were done in the win column.

The other days were hail marys that came through big enough to bang the day out.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 04:28:50 PM
I loved the 5 like everyone else but was stumped who to pick 2nd. Davis did quite well when he was at Northfield.

I have been burnt many times over the years having it come out the other way making it look foolish 73cv.2



Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:33:39 PM
A few babies at GR 11th

Race 11    0.20    SH5    1+3+4 / 1+3+4 / 1+3+4 / 6+8 / 6+8    2.40
   Race 11    0.20    SH5    1+3+4 / 1+3+4 / 6+8 / 1+3+4 / 6+8    2.40
   Race 11    0.20    SH5    1+3+4 / 6+8 / 1+3+4 / 6+8 / 1+3+4    2.40
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 04:35:26 PM
Going to try a $1 super 3/4-5-8 at GR race 11..my bad no super..
Hi 5
3/4-5-6-8.. $4.80
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:37:51 PM
Going to try a $1 super 3/4-5-8 at GR race 11

No sups at GR 11th try a hi5

Race 11    0.20    SH5    BX+1+3+4+6+8    24.00

I just realized I should of boxed.

Dax has a beautiful face!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:45:54 PM
Should be chalk but I have the hi5 for .40.

Trevor intentionally misses the gate from the 8.

Finishes 3rd, lol, how good is this horse! 
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:49:23 PM
Should be chalk but I have the hi5 for .40.

Trevor intentionally misses the gate from the 8.

Finishes 3rd, lol, how good is this horse!

Whippity skippity $37.34 x 2  return ngc3
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 04:51:01 PM
Should be chalk but I have the hi5 for .40.

Trevor intentionally misses the gate from the 8.

Finishes 3rd, lol, how good is this horse!
Small profit but a win is a win.. the 1 just snuck out in front of the 5 who was coming from the back.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 04:52:51 PM
Small profit but a win is a win.. the 1 just snuck out in front of the 5 who was coming from the back.

More like mitigated the loss but yes.   tmbz1

Next up Red Mile race 12th, it's going to be that or Ocean Downs 2nd which will have to reverse this day!  ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 04:53:35 PM
I got back $8.84  of my $25.20 pick 4.. ngc3 common theme today winning ticket but loss of money. I guess Im going to have to work tomorrow
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 04:53:54 PM
Race 2 Hastings(6 PM EST)

cold exacta 1-4

I can assure you this one will not pay $18
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Bitter Truth on August 04, 2025, 04:56:39 PM
Two starts ago they 'BLOCKED' the horse from getting to the gate and today 'INTENTIONALLY'
didn't go to the gate. Boy there sure are a lot of conspiracies surrounding that horse. ngc3
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 05:00:35 PM
Two starts ago they 'BLOCKED' the horse from getting to the gate and today 'INTENTIONALLY'
didn't go to the gate. Boy there sure are a lot of conspiracies surrounding that horse. ngc3

What races were you watching?

Watch them and tell us.

Otherwise stfu and stick to your history memory, you're only good with old shit, not live events!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 05:05:44 PM
Bitter Truth, where are your predictions / wagers - or are you just a heckler pissing in live action betting threads?

Oh, they need cash from you for your wagers, they won't take your food stamp ebt card!   ngc3
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Bitter Truth on August 04, 2025, 05:16:59 PM
Gotcha Jerry tmbz1 You're buddy buddy till someone says anything contrary to your thinking.
I would have JT read the response to that fake poster. There he will see your true feelings about JT.
Yes I'm old and remember stuff from the past better than most but I watch and wager on races most
every day like yourself. I don't have to advertise it nor do I often whine about things that happen. Like
that Goop in the Hambo or this Dax Seelster. Ever consider he's not good at getting to the gate and away?
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 05:23:53 PM
Gotcha Jerry tmbz1 You're buddy buddy till someone says anything contrary to your thinking.
I would have JT read the response to that fake poster. There he will see your true feelings about JT.
Yes I'm old and remember stuff from the past better than most but I watch and wager on races most
every day like yourself. I don't have to advertise it nor do I often whine about things that happen. Like
that Goop in the Hambo or this Dax Seelster. Ever consider he's not good at getting to the gate and away?

Oh, I'm Jerry, the guy who wants to buy fractional horses.

Nah.  But believe so.

I got a fake emails I thought were from JT but from a J T.

You think that's funny?

I'm down for the day -$1160.52, am I bragging, am I lying.

Wow, plop is full of fucking losers, who have no life and stalk people actually having fun, some days lately more than others banking cash! 

Day's not over though!   ;D

JT understood, I apologized, and your cunt friend was busted.



Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Bitter Truth on August 04, 2025, 05:30:14 PM
I never heard of that guy nor do I condone what he did. You are the one that posted all about it.
You are the one who made disparaging remarks toward JT when you thought it was him that sent those PM'S.
 Your true feelings were exposed there just like today with me.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 05:36:50 PM
I never heard of that guy nor do I condone what he did. You are the one that posted all about it.
You are the one who made disparaging remarks toward JT when you thought it was him that sent those PM'S.
 Your true feelings were exposed there just like today with me.

Here is one of your posts you say you're a mature adult here:

"It's My Show..off the board.. Who would have guessed it?..Oh wait, it was me tmbz1"

Post number 1842:

https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=75493.msg1129106#msg1129106

Unlike you, JT is a smart standup guy, and I'm a man, with honor and if I fuck up and in this case because I was duped, oh well.

Sweet dreams fuckface... ;D

Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Bitter Truth on August 04, 2025, 05:47:46 PM
Thx for digging that one up. Not sure how it speaks to maturity one way or another.
It was a post and thread where a lot people like It's My Show and I had said he wouldn't
hit the board. He didn't and I guess I was just patting myself on the back for predicting it.
Boy that sure is damning stuff Sherlock. ngc3
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 05:51:04 PM
Thx for digging that one up. Not sure how it speaks to maturity one way or another.
It was a post and thread where a lot people like It's My Show and I had said he wouldn't
hit the board. He didn't and I guess I was just patting myself on the back for predicting it.
Boy that sure is damning stuff Sherlock. ngc3
I want to suck your dick Trigger that's why I'm so angry at you! 

You're a faggot!  ;D

Mother fucker we haven't started yet.

I'm going to be your Siamese twin attached nightmare.

Forever!  ;D
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 06:10:50 PM
Ocean Downs Race 2 - 75 smackaroskies!   ;D

  Ocean Downs (H)                75.40
   Race 2    20.00    TRI    4 / 1+6 / 1+6    NaN.00
   Race 2    10.00    SPR    4 / 1+6 / 1+6 / 5    20.00
   Race 2    2.00    SPR    4 / 1+6 / 1+6 / 2+3    8.00
   Race 2    1.00    EX    BX+1+6    2.00
   Race 2    0.50    TRI    1+6 / 1+6 / 1+2+3+5+6    3.00
   Race 2    0.20    SPR    1+6 / 1+6 / 1+2+3+5+6 / 1+2+3+5+6    2.40
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 06:17:42 PM
race 2 Ocean

the 4-1 cold exacta might pay lower than my Hastings exacta

asking for both trotters to stay flat to get 50 cents on the dollar(maybe)...not great

cold trifecta 4-1-3

don't like #2 Callahan's horse has under performed and I doubt #5 or #6 can hit the board without a few breaks

enjoy watching this trotter-wins like CR Kay Suzie did but she did it in Grand Circuit
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 06:23:22 PM
race 2 Ocean

the 4-1 cold exacta might pay lower than my Hastings exacta

asking for both trotters to stay flat to get 50 cents on the dollar(maybe)...not great

cold trifecta 4-1-3

don't like #2 Callahan's horse has under performed and I doubt #5 or #6 can hit the board without a few breaks

enjoy watching this trotter-wins like CR Kay Suzie did but she did it in Grand Circuit

I'm waiting to see the probable ex payouts, then maybe.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 06:33:13 PM
I'm waiting to see the probable ex payouts, then maybe.

nobody knows the real payouts due to the betting after the bell-not necessarily a CAW

but it does give you a glimpse of what it might pay

I say the 4-1 exacta will pay $2.60
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 06:47:07 PM
Here's 195.60 for Mohawk 2nd:

  Woodbine Mohawk (H)                195.60
   Race 2    10.00    EX    BX+1+3+5    NaN.00
   Race 2    10.00    TRI    BX+1+3+5    60.00
   Race 2    2.00    SPR    1+3+5 / 1+3+5 / 1+3+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6    36.00
   Race 2    0.40    SPR    BX+1+3+4+5    9.60
   Race 2    10.00    WIN    1+3+5    30.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 06:56:34 PM
Here's 195.60 for Mohawk 2nd:

  Woodbine Mohawk (H)                195.60
   Race 2    10.00    EX    BX+1+3+5    NaN.00
   Race 2    10.00    TRI    BX+1+3+5    60.00
   Race 2    2.00    SPR    1+3+5 / 1+3+5 / 1+3+5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6    36.00
   Race 2    0.40    SPR    BX+1+3+4+5    9.60
   Race 2    10.00    WIN    1+3+5    30.00

Some add...

Race 2    0.40    SPR    BX+1+2+3+5    9.60
   Race 2    0.40    SPR    BX+1+3+5+6    9.60
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 06:57:52 PM
 ngc3

this 4-4 daily double will pay $2.10

only for the heavily rebated bettor
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 07:00:00 PM
Ocean Downs Race 2 - 75 smackaroskies!   ;D

  Ocean Downs (H)                75.40
   Race 2    20.00    TRI    4 / 1+6 / 1+6    NaN.00
   Race 2    10.00    SPR    4 / 1+6 / 1+6 / 5    20.00
   Race 2    2.00    SPR    4 / 1+6 / 1+6 / 2+3    8.00
   Race 2    1.00    EX    BX+1+6    2.00
   Race 2    0.50    TRI    1+6 / 1+6 / 1+2+3+5+6    3.00
   Race 2    0.20    SPR    1+6 / 1+6 / 1+2+3+5+6 / 1+2+3+5+6    2.40

And an add on here...
    Race 2    40.00    EX    4 / 1+6    80.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 07:22:17 PM
Damn I step away for an hour or 2 and all hell breaks loose. 2 days in a row being involved in drama which I HATE.
Trigger sorry about the#2 at Lexington.Good trip just didn't have the horse. I had $50 to show on him.
Bitter Truth is a good dude, one of my favorite posters on here. He tells it like it is and ruffles a few feathers in the process, but every one is entitled to their opinion and him and I have been at the same events many times without knowing it decades ago and have chatted about it.There was nothing wrong with him chipping in his 2 cents worth about Dax.
Bitter , Trigger knew he fucked up last night, but he manned up and apologized and I accepted because I dont hold grudges with anyone, that's no way to live. Even if that was his "true feelings " about me I don't really care. I'm not on here to impress anyone, just to talk about the ponies, but I appreciate ya sticking up for me.Now everyone should kiss and make-up lol
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 07:25:26 PM
ngc3

this 4-4 daily double will pay $2.10

only for the heavily rebated bettor
$1 dd paid $1.05 ngc3. Did you play the 2nd at Hastings Pap? It paid $2.90 for a $2 exacta lol.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: JT on August 04, 2025, 07:31:00 PM
The only ticket I got cooking is a pick 5 from Mohawk and Im done for the day.. was doing some yard work but here it is
2,4,5,7/4/2,3,5/3,4,5,6,9/2,4,5
20 cent bet for $36 bucks.
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 07:32:21 PM
Damn I step away for an hour or 2 and all hell breaks loose. 2 days in a row being involved in drama which I HATE.
Trigger sorry about the#2 at Lexington.Good trip just didn't have the horse. I had $50 to show on him.
Bitter Truth is a good dude, one of my favorite posters on here. He tells it like it is and ruffles a few feathers in the process, but every one is entitled to their opinion and him and I have been at the same events many times without knowing it decades ago and have chatted about it.There was nothing wrong with him chipping in his 2 cents worth about Dax.
Bitter , Trigger knew he fucked up last night, but he manned up and apologized and I accepted because I dont hold grudges with anyone, that's no way to live. Even if that was his "true feelings " about me I don't really care. I'm not on here to impress anyone, just to talk about the ponies, but I appreciate ya sticking up for me.Now everyone should kiss and make-up lol

 tmbz1
Wasn't true feelings thought it was from you.

See how I torment them, did I even come close to you like that, no, because I was shocked, and it didn't make sense.

Cool, moving on...The 2 at red mile had a grand trip and my other horse won, oh well..lol

Woodbine Mohawk (H)                76.00
   Race 3    20.00    EX    6 / 3    NaN.00
   Race 3    10.00    EX    3 / 6    10.00
   Race 3    4.00    TRI    6 / 3 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    20.00
   Race 3    2.00    TRI    3 / 6 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    10.00
   Race 3    0.40    SPR    3+6 / 3+6 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    16.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 07:38:21 PM
tmbz1
Wasn't true feelings thought it was from you.

See how I torment them, did I even come close to you like that, no, because I was shocked, and it didn't make sense.

Cool, moving on...The 2 at red mile had a grand trip and my other horse won, oh well..lol

Woodbine Mohawk (H)                76.00
   Race 3    20.00    EX    6 / 3    NaN.00
   Race 3    10.00    EX    3 / 6    10.00
   Race 3    4.00    TRI    6 / 3 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    20.00
   Race 3    2.00    TRI    3 / 6 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    10.00
   Race 3    0.40    SPR    3+6 / 3+6 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    16.00

Had a feeling the 6 would beat the 5, thought G/ McNair the 3 would have his horse ready, maybe if that dummy trained instead of jerking off he wouldn't of been beat by a 54-1 shot!
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 07:45:10 PM
Mohawk 5 & 6 & 9 are quality races.

Down $1648.40 for the day.   ngc3

It's actually not fucking funny!  ;D



Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2025, 07:47:15 PM
$1 dd paid $1.05 ngc3. Did you play the 2nd at Hastings Pap? It paid $2.90 for a $2 exacta lol.

sadly enough-yes I took the $2.90

it looked good ngc3


race 6 Manitoba Derby--upon further review #7 Take Charge Tom is NOT "tons the best" as I mentioned earlier

he was all out to beat #8 Just Trust Me

small exacta box 7/8 hoping #8 can turn the tables-certainly not a cold one
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 08:05:29 PM
Mohawk 5th -- cancellation button for 2 yo trotters on standby!   ngc3

 Woodbine Mohawk (H)                249.40
   Race 5    25.00    WP    5    NaN.00
   Race 5    10.00    EX    5 / 2+4+9+10    40.00
   Race 5    2.00    EX    5 / 1+6+7+8    8.00
   Race 5    5.00    EX    2+4+9+10 / 5    20.00
   Race 5    1.00    EX    1+6+7+8 / 5    4.00
   Race 5    2.00    TRI    5 / 2+4+9+10 / 2+4+9+10    24.00
   Race 5    1.00    TRI    2+4+9+10 / 5 / 2+4+9+10    12.00
   Race 5    1.00    SPR    5 / 2+4+9+10 / 2+4+9+10 / 2+4+9+10    24.00
   Race 5    0.40    SPR    2+4+9+10 / 5 / 2+4+9+10 / 2+4+9+10    9.60
   Race 5    0.20    SPR    BX+2+4+9+10    4.80
   Race 5    0.40    SPR    2+4+5 / 2+4+5 / 2+4+5 / 1+2+4+5+6+7+8+9+10    14.40
   Race 5    2.00    TRI    BX+2+4+5    12.00
   Race 5    2.00    DBL    5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    14.00
   Race 5    0.20    PK3    5 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    12.60
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 08:39:14 PM
Mohawk 6th -

Race 6    2.00    EX    BX+2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    24.00
   Race 6    0.40    TRI    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    0.40    TRI    1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    0.20    SPR    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    24.00
   Race 6    0.20    SPR    1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    24.00
   Race 6    2.00    EX    BX+2 / 4+5+6+7    16.00
   Race 6    1.00    TRI    2 / 4+5+6+7 / 4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    1.00    TRI    4+5+6+7 / 2 / 4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    0.40    SPR    2 / 2+4+5+6+7 / 2+4+5+6+7 / 2+4+5+6+7    9.60
   Race 6    0.40    SPR    2+4+5+6+7 / 2 / 2+4+5+6+7 / 2+4+5+6+7    9.60
   Race 6    1.00    DBL    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    9.00
   Race 6    0.20    PK3    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    14.40
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 08:41:55 PM
Mohawk 6th -

Race 6    2.00    EX    BX+2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    24.00
   Race 6    0.40    TRI    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    0.40    TRI    1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    0.20    SPR    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    24.00
   Race 6    0.20    SPR    1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7    24.00
   Race 6    2.00    EX    BX+2 / 4+5+6+7    16.00
   Race 6    1.00    TRI    2 / 4+5+6+7 / 4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    1.00    TRI    4+5+6+7 / 2 / 4+5+6+7    12.00
   Race 6    0.40    SPR    2 / 2+4+5+6+7 / 2+4+5+6+7 / 2+4+5+6+7    9.60
   Race 6    0.40    SPR    2+4+5+6+7 / 2 / 2+4+5+6+7 / 2+4+5+6+7    9.60
   Race 6    1.00    DBL    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    9.00
   Race 6    0.20    PK3    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    14.40

Race 6    25.00    WP    2    50.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 09:21:20 PM
Love that 2 in the 6th  ngc3 1 second after the gate opens goes up in the air. Horse might have breaks but wasn't looking at the lifetime pps.

Well let's wrap up a funny chaotic drama filled day in hell lol!   ;D

Mohawk -

    Race 8    0.20    PK3    5 / 2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    1.80
   Race 9    20.00    WP    2    40.00
   Race 9    1.00    EX    BX+2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10    18.00
   Race 9    2.00    EX    BX+2 / 1+3+4+8+9    20.00
   Race 9    0.40    TRI    2 / 1+3+4+8+9 / 1+3+4+8+9    8.00
   Race 9    0.40    TRI    1+3+4+8+9 / 2 / 1+3+4+8+9    8.00
   Race 9    0.20    SPR    2 / 1+3+4+8+9 / 1+3+4+8+9 / 1+3+4+8+9    12.00
   Race 9    0.20    SPR    1+3+4+8+9 / 2 / 1+3+4+8+9 / 1+3+4+8+9    12.00
   Race 9    1.00    DBL    2 / 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9    9.00
Title: Re: Grand River (Matinee card), Monday, 8/4/25 Belles & Waterloo Final
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2025, 10:23:18 PM
Wagered $2,292.20
Won $204.93
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Lost - $2,087.27

Sincerely,

Trigger  ;D
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