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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Jctoronto on July 19, 2025, 09:24:26 PM
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I took the .40 on the dollar and put down a decent bet for me. Had me nervous for a while! ngc3
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I took the .40 on the dollar and put down a decent bet for me. Had me nervous for a while! ngc3
Makes it really exciting...He "earns" it and he makes his backers "earn" it. Question is, is that his 4th gear, or his 5th gear like everything is equal then his competition are seemingly standing still.
Zenyatta!
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In the stretch he made up a half-length on the leaders with every stride and drew away in the final strides, it was definitely a nail biter for a while.
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Awesome horse
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Makes it really exciting...He "earns" it and he makes his backers "earn" it. Question is, is that his 4th gear, or his 5th gear like everything is equal then his competition are seemingly standing still.
Zenyatta!
I saw it different
Journalism was under a long drive being strongly urged by Rispoli for the last half mile--and was all out to get up
if Journalism wants any shot of 3yo of the year-he must run in Travers(and win)then win the BC Classic(and win)--otherwise he has no shot at catching Mott's horse--which looks highly unlikely
we all see events differently
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Great horse but Sovereignty is faster.
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Great horse but Sovereignty is faster.
at this point-its not even close tmbz1
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Great horse but Sovereignty is faster.
tmbz1
1 1/8 becomes more competitive as the season goes on.
The one thing I think we all can agree on, as far back in the stretch and from we historically see it almost looks insurmountable for Journalism to win.
The horse deserves everyone's respect, because the one thing he does do is - RESPOND!
Also if that last furlong he pulled comes in is a, again, sub 12, well...those are some long ass strides against his competitors shortening ones.
Journalism, 3 yo, has run triple digit speed figures 8 races in a row!
See him in the PA derby, he needs a "derby" win, see Sovereignty is the JD and Travers and we'll see them both in the BC, again is my prediction. ;D
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I thought yesterday's Haskell was pretty exciting. Gosger, always seems to try hard. Journalism win was pretty cool. He's a great horses. I just think Sovereignty is a tad faster. I hope both run as 4 year olds.
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I thought yesterday's Haskell was pretty exciting. Gosger, always seems to try hard. Journalism win was pretty cool. He's a great horses. I just think Sovereignty is a tad faster. I hope both run as 4 year olds.
I seriously doubt either one races next year-but I hope you are correct
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Sovereignty has a gear the other horses don't have
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Sovereignty has a gear the other horses don't have
ngc3
He's calm too.
Getting better and stronger, can't wait until his next race.
Just don't fall down and the jockey doesn't fall off! ;D
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ngc3
He's calm too.
Getting better and stronger, can't wait until his next race.
Just don't fall down and the jockey doesn't fall off! ;D
five horse next sat in Jim Dandy
show pool could hit $700k on him
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five horse next sat in Jim Dandy
show pool could hit $700k on him
NYRA is daring to allow that.
He could fall down and still get 3rd, win possibly, but you don't pull that move with a quality horse, wealthy owners and successful trainers frown on it, as a small injury from a fall can turn into a major one.
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NYRA is daring to allow that.
He could fall down and still get 3rd, win possibly, but you don't pull that move with a quality horse, wealthy owners and successful trainers frown on it, as a small injury from a fall can turn into a major one.
it once was automatic they had show wagering on 5 horse fields in NY --but now that they own/operate their popular ADW, it is certainly possible they would cancel show wagering
Gulfstream and Santa Anita/DelMar(and of course CT) never cancel with 5 entries--but CD has been known to cancel
a bridejumpers dream is Sovreignty vs those if they allow it
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it once was automatic they had show wagering on 5 horse fields in NY --but now that they own/operate their popular ADW, it is certainly possible they would cancel show wagering
Gulfstream and Santa Anita/DelMar(and of course CT) never cancel with 5 entries--but CD has been known to cancel
a bridejumpers dream is Sovreignty vs those if they allow it
I think the thoroughbred Gulch was the biggest show fail. If I remember correctly $4mil or so to show, televised race, finished 4th.
That's a tall bridge! ngc3
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I think the thoroughbred Gulch was the biggest show fail. If I remember correctly $4mil or so to show, televised race, finished 4th.
That's a tall bridge! ngc3
you could be correct-i wasn't watching minus pools in those days
the last two big blowups I can recall were Shared Belief at CT for just over one million and Arrogate at DelMar-for over a million-but there was so much hedge money in they weren't worth betting against
its harder to get down on these minus pools, they will close your ADW account if you abuse it
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you could be correct-i wasn't watching minus pools in those days
the last two big blowups I can recall were Shared Belief at CT for just over one million and Arrogate at DelMar-for over a million-but there was so much hedge money in they weren't worth betting against
its harder to get down on these minus pools, they will close your ADW account if you abuse it
That's because the ADW regulatory sucks.
They just want a guaranteed win.
Not that I do bridgejumping nor ever will, very unfair to penalize, threaten, cancel account, seek reimbursement like some do.
If the track offers it, go argue with your partner therein.
Real scumbags.
Hey, bridgejumpers will just wire money to the track.
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That's because the ADW regulatory sucks.
They just want a guaranteed win.
Not that I do bridgejumping nor ever will, very unfair to penalize, threaten, cancel account, seek reimbursement like some do.
If the track offers it, go argue with your partner therein.
Real scumbags.
Hey, bridgejumpers will just wire money to the track.
I agree totally--they make over $40 million a year on breakage, so I feel they can absorb the minus pools
"net pool pricing" changed the rules to wherever the bet made that venue responsible for the loss--and it changed the show payoffs themselves--we the old days all horses paid $2.10 when the favorite hit the board--but the blowups were bigger--nowadays some horses pay $5-6 or more when the favorite lands--but the blowups aren't as big
living in $2.10 world is brutal--i tried it over a decade ago and couldn't make a profit-but I truly believe $2.20 world at CT and MNR is doable if you are good enough and can get down
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I agree totally--they make over $40 million a year on breakage, so I feel they can absorb the minus pools
"net pool pricing" changed the rules to wherever the bet made that venue responsible for the loss--and it changed the show payoffs themselves--we the old days all horses paid $2.10 when the favorite hit the board--but the blowups were bigger--nowadays some horses pay $5-6 or more when the favorite lands--but the blowups aren't as big
living in $2.10 world is brutal--i tried it over a decade ago and couldn't make a profit-but I truly believe $2.20 world at CT and MNR is doable if you are good enough and can get down
You got bigger balls if I had ambitions of bridgejumping because I would never mess with those smaller tracks. I wouldn't throw it past track / owner management to send an intermediate to give the jockey a thumbs down or else.
Problem when everything is so crooked, insiders become vulnerable, the brass keep a file on ya, just about everyone has a file.
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Exciting race!
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Exciting race!
Journalism's / Rispoli's alarm clock, "1 furlong to go!" is become a pattern! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWAAvss_tvs
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I thought yesterday's Haskell was pretty exciting. Gosger, always seems to try hard. Journalism win was pretty cool. He's a great horses. I just think Sovereignty is a tad faster. I hope both run as 4 year olds.
Agreed! I absolutely enjoyed the race, a lot! Who wouldn't love to see both horses come back sound and healthy and battle it out next year?!?!? That would be great. Unfortunately, both horses are already have owners who are major breeders. Plus, with the current economics of the business, there is disincentive for owners of horses like this to bring them back at 4. Some of these others might come back next year. I hope they all come back sound and better.