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Title: Ake no Angel
Post by: The Answer on July 13, 2025, 01:43:38 AM
Word around Ake using Swedish blood builder and Gural turns blind eye to it. Out of competition testing done this week on many barns. Guess who didn’t get tested? Yes Ake! His horses turn from out of trot to monsters. Other trainers are pissed!!!
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Trigger on July 13, 2025, 01:55:26 AM
Word around Ake using Swedish blood builder and Gural turns blind eye to it. Out of competition testing done this week on many barns. Guess who didn’t get tested? Yes Ake! His horses turn from out of trot to monsters. Other trainers are pissed!!!

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The winners he's had the last 2 days have been very heavily bet too.  Below even money. 

Fucking greedy mother fuckers, they want it all!
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 13, 2025, 06:27:47 AM
Word around Ake using Swedish blood builder and Gural turns blind eye to it. Out of competition testing done this week on many barns. Guess who didn’t get tested? Yes Ake! His horses turn from out of trot to monsters. Other trainers are pissed!!!

Whether true or not. Who does he train for and who is he partners with in horses? IMO, a bit of a conflict of interest.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Harness racer on July 13, 2025, 06:35:52 AM
Gural owning horses at his own track has always been a huge conflict of interest.  No one has ever seemed to mind and I’m not really sure why.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: CMJAnew on July 13, 2025, 07:02:19 AM
He CANNOT Run Overnights At Tioga n Vernon. Tioga horsemen said OK, but Vernon’s said NO WAY.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: seen2much on July 13, 2025, 07:49:38 AM
I don't know if there was OTC testing. If there was two top stables were missing their Wheaties. Burke & Takter are big stakes players & both were not heard from. The telling sign is when some top ones rode rail & lost ground in the stretch.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Parked on July 13, 2025, 08:20:49 AM
I don't know if there was OTC testing. If there was two top stables were missing their Wheaties. Burke & Takter are big stakes players & both were not heard from. The telling sign is when some top ones rode rail & lost ground in the stretch.

You are right. Horrible nights for those 2. Some of the Takter horses were beat by 9, 10, 12 15 and 17 lengths.  None hit the board !! Burke win the open  but had 3 horses in it.   Crazy stuff.   Mike will find out what is going on.   
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Kenny on July 13, 2025, 09:36:55 AM
(https://static.bonniernews.se/images/66/65/6665661fe02c866a641d8d34999f6002/420@60.jpg)

https://www.expressen.se/sport/kronikorer/mats-olsson/mats-olsson-darfor-ar-folk-elaka-mot-hastar/ (https://www.expressen.se/sport/kronikorer/mats-olsson/mats-olsson-darfor-ar-folk-elaka-mot-hastar/)
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Superfecta on July 13, 2025, 10:39:06 AM
(https://static.bonniernews.se/images/66/65/6665661fe02c866a641d8d34999f6002/420@60.jpg)

https://www.expressen.se/sport/kronikorer/mats-olsson/mats-olsson-darfor-ar-folk-elaka-mot-hastar/ (https://www.expressen.se/sport/kronikorer/mats-olsson/mats-olsson-darfor-ar-folk-elaka-mot-hastar/)

English version please.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Kenny on July 13, 2025, 10:41:58 AM
English version please.

Use Google Translate.  It is a Swedish article.  Ake was accused of using an electric pig prod to train horses. He was not convicted due to a technicality. I saw one article where it was reported he even admitted it.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 13, 2025, 11:28:42 AM
No individual can be, or try to be, bigger than an industry. Else that industry fails.

Seeing track owners in their own winners circle sickens me. Looks like something that woukd expect to see happen in Russia, not the US
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Superfecta on July 13, 2025, 11:31:47 AM
No individual can be, or try to be, bigger than an industry. Else that industry fails.

Seeing track owners in their own winners circle sickens me. Looks like something that woukd expect to see happen in Russia, not the US

It’s disgusting and he bans the trainers that cheat as good or better than his guys.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: The Answer on July 13, 2025, 11:46:27 AM
No individual can be, or try to be, bigger than an industry. Else that industry fails.

Seeing track owners in their own winners circle sickens me. Looks like something that woukd expect to see happen in Russia, not the US

Don’t have a problem with Gural owning and racing horses at his own tracks. Track owners have been doing it forever. He just has a love affair with Ake and lets him get away with anything he wants. There’s no way Ake can just be that much better than everyone else and yes the NJRC did out of competition testing this week. He plugs them when he wants. If Gap Kronos has any trot in the Hambo eliminations there needs to be a full investigation. He had none last night.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 13, 2025, 12:08:08 PM
Don’t have a problem with Gural owning and racing horses at his own tracks. Track owners have been doing it forever. He just has a love affair with Ake and lets him get away with anything he wants. There’s no way Ake can just be that much better than everyone else and yes the NJRC did out of competition testing this week. He plugs them when he wants. If Gap Kronos has any trot in the Hambo eliminations there needs to be a full investigation. He had none last night.

It's wrong now and it's been wrong forever. It's not appealing to buy babies that have to race against ownership. And how often do gural horses get roughed up on the track by other drivers? I say very very rarely. That's not fair to the betting public.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Kirbys Ace on July 13, 2025, 12:12:01 PM
Gural owning horses at his own track has always been a huge conflict of interest.  No one has ever seemed to mind and I’m not really sure why.

I think it's because his track his rule.

I guess if you don't like it then race somewhere else.

Sort of like it's my house and I can do whatever I like!
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Birdfantammy on July 13, 2025, 12:41:16 PM
It's wrong now and it's been wrong forever. It's not appealing to buy babies that have to race against ownership. And how often do gural horses get roughed up on the track by other drivers? I say very very rarely. That's not fair to the betting public.

I agree 100% with this!
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Parked on July 13, 2025, 01:24:35 PM
Do the owners of the Red Mile race their horses there ?.?  Answer is YES !!!
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 13, 2025, 02:08:19 PM
Do the owners of the Red Mile race their horses there ?.?  Answer is YES !!!

Red mile is the worst track a gambler can find. I love the breakage in KY but it is seriously outweighed by all the nonsense at that track. Makes perfect sense to me that the owners race there.
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 13, 2025, 02:27:41 PM
Word around Ake using Swedish blood builder and Gural turns blind eye to it. Out of competition testing done this week on many barns. Guess who didn’t get tested? Yes Ake! His horses turn from out of trot to monsters. Other trainers are pissed!!!

  What trainer is pissed?
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Stan durbread on July 13, 2025, 04:59:33 PM
  What trainer is pissed?
Not any professional ones. And how exactly do they know that the commission didn’t test Ake horses?  Were they hiding in the bushes on private property instead of taking care of their barn?
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: brown eyes on July 13, 2025, 05:08:24 PM
Ake is a criminal and he should be deported along with his cattle prod!
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Stan durbread on July 13, 2025, 05:10:14 PM
Ake is a criminal and he should be deported along with his cattle prod!
You got any proof?
Title: Re: Ake no Angel
Post by: Kenny on July 13, 2025, 05:41:12 PM
You got any proof?

Ake might be as "clean" in the US as any other top trainer. It has been so long that I have not found all the Swedish articles published at the time.  I did read one where the allegedly quoted Ake as saying he did use an electric prod at one time but stopped using it because it was ineffective. I also remember seeing an article indicating he was not convicted based on technical issues not innocence. Again those articles were in Swedish and I have not been able to find them again.

Use Google Translate:

https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/trav365/a/VRxj8r/atal-vackt-mot-ake-svanstedt

https://www.resume.se/kommunikation/pr/sponsorn-hotar-hoppa-av/

https://www.expressen.se/sport/trav/darfor-bryter-elon-med-svanstedt/


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