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Title: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 10:50:06 AM
LIVE on YouTube today at 11am. Stop in to watch him have to answer to ALL the evidence against him.

https://www.youtube.com/@KentuckyHorseRacingGamingCorp

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Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 11:21:03 AM
He says what invoices??? What BB3?????? Doesn't know how they were billed? Sent to his office???  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 11:25:10 AM
Michael who??? ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: bello on July 08, 2025, 11:30:12 AM
His 91 year old mom owns 30 horses. They should bring here in for questioning.

Seems he will throw anyone under the bus.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 11:32:57 AM
He seems to not know anything.  ngc3
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 08, 2025, 11:48:16 AM
Yeah, I just watched the lst 15 minutes.  I don't think the outcome is favorable to him
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Janny on July 08, 2025, 11:52:24 AM
Poor Mr.Williams. The logic is if you get paid by someone to do work then it follows you work for him.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Parked on July 08, 2025, 11:58:32 AM
Thanks Mike.   Quite interesting.  I’d love to hear the closed door discussion. 
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: bello on July 08, 2025, 12:06:58 PM
Jamal is a much more sympathetic character than HT. They should give him a break.

HT singing the praises of Dean Eckley. Wow.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness racer on July 08, 2025, 12:16:19 PM
What a pompous asshole.  That is one person who thinks no rules will ever apply to him.  Just end this crap and give him the same 10 years Gillis got. 
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 12:35:20 PM
Bourgault yesterday. Taylor today. Who's next???  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: bello on July 08, 2025, 12:46:51 PM
Jamal approved.  HT withdrew his application after being told it would be denied.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Kirbys Ace on July 08, 2025, 12:49:09 PM
Looks like mom's getting more horses!
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 12:54:07 PM
He didn't know, his trainers didn't know. Apparently his wife just signed and mailed checks. Did know about Omeprazole... AND I GOT A SHOUT OUT!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

https://youtu.be/iaKWg69MazQ

The bills went to her??? Guess he didn't realize the Kentucky Commission had everything I posted.
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Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Kirbys Ace on July 08, 2025, 12:57:56 PM
Looks like he pulled the Old Lawyers trick...The Sargent Schutz defense!

                                        I KNOWWW NOTHINGGGG~
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 01:00:10 PM
Looks like he pulled the Old Lawyers trick...The Sargent Schutz defense!

                                        I KNOWWW NOTHINGGGG~

Now the key here is it was made certain that the words "You will most certainly be denied" were spoken into the record. All I'm gonna say.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Yonkers1A on July 08, 2025, 01:29:02 PM
Thanks for the updates, HT give the boot, good start
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness racer on July 08, 2025, 04:12:14 PM
All of his horses that were going to race there still will.  I doubt they have the balls to deny his transfers.  It will be interesting to see what happens.  And it’s fucking hilarious he mentioned Mikes name!   ngc3
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 05:34:29 PM
Mr. Taylor doesn't know much now does he?

A - Where his horses are or who trains them.
B - He has over 200 horses, how could he possibly know.
C - He owns 100% yet is billed 50% and he doesn't know why.
D - He was being billed by a vet in large quantities for substances he's never heard of, but it's not his fault his trainers never heard of the stuff either. It's his spouse at the time who did the bills and paid them, it's her handwriting on the invoices, the bills went to her even though the address they were sent to is his office.
E - His horses didn't get any of the stuff he purchased.
F - How am I supposed to know he didn't have a license.
G - I had no idea what was in those invoices I had that the FBI wanted that I just handed over and never read! You see how many line items there were???
H - It's that darn Gural and Petrelli I tell ya!!! 🤣

Just a heads up, it's not over yet....
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Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: bello on July 08, 2025, 05:52:57 PM
And all these "partnerships" done on a handshake. No written agreements.

Want to get thrown under a bus, just get in partnership with HT. You will be blamed for all his sins. And where are all the trainers who take the "blame" and do not speak up.

Seems like everyone has "something" on everyone else in the industry. Except you cant get to Petrelli. He is not scared and doesnt give a shit what anyone has to say anyways.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 08, 2025, 05:55:06 PM
Mike got a special mention in there by HT. I forgot now but somewhere around the 18-20 minute mark in the middle of not know who says what and all the other bullshit that was dflowing
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 06:03:27 PM
Mike got a special mention in there by HT. I forgot now but somewhere around the 18-20 minute mark in the middle of not know who says what and all the other bullshit that was dflowing

I know, I burst out laughing when I heard it live. Remember, this goes back to him having Tony Zubkoff call me. And what did Tony say? The invoices, Petrelli is trying to destroy me. Incorrect, all these scumbags who purchased and used that garbage on those animals knew exactly what they were doing, right up until they got caught.
https://youtu.be/4oCjRr9Wmi8

I can tell you this, the KHRC had EVERYTHING I have when they questioned him today, and then some...
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Ohracing on July 08, 2025, 06:14:09 PM
Is this guy a trial lawyer he seems not to informed or know how to answer questions.  Maybe I'm wrong but thats how it seems.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 06:16:50 PM
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2025, 06:19:34 PM
When is the Taylor story and SCM going to hit the front page of the USTA website?  Can Shopping Cart Mike knock Breyerfest off the page?

When does Paulick report?

When does the NY post guy get busy?

I know, our hero has left many hints and crumbs for those most eager to follow.

But surely Mike deserves more.

Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 06:21:48 PM
When is the Taylor story and SCM going to hit the front page of the USTA website?  Can Shopping Cart Mike knock Breyerfest off the page?

When does Paulick report?

When does the NY post guy get busy?

I know, our hero has left many hints and crumbs for those most eager to follow.

But surely Mike deserves more.

Actually you just proved my point, harness racing doesn't matter.  tmbz1

BTW, Fred Bourgault is in a jail cell right now. I got my present.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2025, 06:29:51 PM
Actually you just proved my point, harness racing doesn't matter.  tmbz1

BTW, Fred Bourgault is in a jail cell right now. I got my present.
I'm going to reach out to some people.

Yes, good on you for Fred. As an aside, this is my 3rd attaboy on that.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 06:31:04 PM
I'm going to reach out to some people.

Yes, good on you for Fred. As an aside, this is my 3rd attaboy on that.

You do that. Why don't you post about the letter from your accountant and tell everyone who doesn't care about your net worth again. When nobody asked.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Actually, can you post the unredacted letter?
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2025, 06:44:45 PM
You do that. Why don't you post about the letter from your accountant and tell everyone who doesn't care about your net worth again. When nobody asked.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Actually, can you post the unredacted letter?
I am NOT issuing another Attaboy.

Don't keep asking
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 06:58:50 PM
I am NOT issuing another Attaboy.

Don't keep asking

Your positive reinforcement means so much... :'(
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Dingus on July 08, 2025, 07:15:12 PM
Your positive reinforcement means so much... :'(

Don’t forget Cal had a piece of WIJI.
Who else was smart enough to do that?
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 07:16:48 PM
Don’t forget Cal had a piece of WIJI.
Who else was smart enough to do that?

Has what to do with the price of tea in China?
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: hoosierboy on July 08, 2025, 07:38:08 PM
The attorney for juicers hopefully finally met his match
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Dingus on July 08, 2025, 07:39:20 PM
Has what to do with the price of tea in China?

His positive reinforcement
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 07:41:33 PM
The attorney for juicers hopefully finally met his match

His match are the facts. He turned in all the receipts and proof of what he purchased then said he had no idea what was on them and that his horses never got the stuff. I smell a Netflix series.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: The Unstable on July 08, 2025, 07:55:21 PM
He didn't know, his trainers didn't know. Apparently his wife just signed and mailed checks. Did know about Omeprazole... AND I GOT A SHOUT OUT!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

https://youtu.be/iaKWg69MazQ

The bills went to her??? Guess he didn't realize the Kentucky Commission had everything I posted.
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I’m anti Howard and I appreciate the effort but these are public records. 
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 07:59:12 PM
I’m anti Howard and I appreciate the effort but these are public records.

And you're obviously missing the point. He responded that his wife got and paid the bills. Thus why I posted this. That's his office address.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Ohracing on July 08, 2025, 08:22:12 PM
The attorney for juicers hopefully finally met his match

Sounded like they knew their stuff and wasn't listening to his BS.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness racer on July 08, 2025, 09:39:13 PM
Sounded like they knew their stuff and wasn't listening to his BS.

For a lawyer he wasn’t very articulate.  He was a condescending asshole that thought, “duh, I had no idea” was a good enough defense.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Way to go on July 08, 2025, 10:16:37 PM
Taylor's presentation was that of an illiterate buffoon......I was shocked
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 08, 2025, 11:20:10 PM
He seemed to figure that He was in the clear cause if they deny him they would have to deny everyone on a very lengthy bb3. Hopefully this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Papillon on July 09, 2025, 11:28:45 AM
Don’t forget Cal had a piece of WIJI.
Who else was smart enough to do that?

huh?

Wiiggle It Jiggleit was 100% owned by George Teague , no?


Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on July 09, 2025, 11:36:25 AM
Wiji was co-owned by George Teague Jr., and the Teague Racing Partnership, which was managed/headed up by Jim Bernstein. Bernstein was one of the breeders of Wiji. Teague bought him as a weanling. I can't speak to who were the partners in the TRP.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: bello on July 09, 2025, 11:41:52 AM
Wiji was co-owned by George Teague Jr., and the Teague Racing Partnership, which was managed/headed up by Jim Bernstein. Bernstein was one of the breeders of Wiji. Teague bought him as a weanling. I can't speak to who were the partners in the TRP.

HT said his "partnerships" were all done with a handshake and no written agreements. He also said the was normal for the industry. Does anyone care to comment on the validity of that statement. As a perfect example is the comment above. Teague Racing Partnership. Were there no written contracts/agreements?
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Dingus on July 09, 2025, 11:47:58 AM
HT said his "partnerships" were all done with a handshake and no written agreements. He also said the was normal for the industry. Does anyone care to comment on the validity of that statement. As a perfect example is the comment above. Teague Racing Partnership. Were there no written contracts/agreements?

There absolutely was, as I received a contract to review.  It included WIJI as well as a few other horses,  Calhoun can confirm this.

Others were Mozzi Minaj, Miss Me Yet, and 2- 2yos, and 2-3yos not identified.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Papillon on July 09, 2025, 12:02:26 PM
Wiji was co-owned by George Teague Jr., and the Teague Racing Partnership, which was managed/headed up by Jim Bernstein. Bernstein was one of the breeders of Wiji. Teague bought him as a weanling. I can't speak to who were the partners in the TRP.

thank you tmbz1
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Blackfin32 on July 09, 2025, 01:07:08 PM
There should be legislation to require that transfer of ownership be in writing, including percentages at the time.  In addition,
registrations should be completed immediately as if you purchased a car, a home etc.  Too much room for characters to take advantage with verbal disputes and percentages over 100%.  It is a big problem that can be easily resolved.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: bello on July 09, 2025, 01:15:59 PM
There should be legislation to require that transfer of ownership be in writing, including percentages at the time.  In addition,
registrations should be completed immediately as if you purchased a car, a home etc.  Too much room for characters to take advantage with verbal disputes and percentages over 100%.  It is a big problem that can be easily resolved.

Yep, this "handshake" business creates all kinds of nefarious opportunities.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: The Answer on July 09, 2025, 01:21:57 PM
And you're obviously missing the point. He responded that his wife got and paid the bills. Thus why I posted this. That's his office address.  tmbz1

His wife worked at the office.
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness racer on July 09, 2025, 01:51:32 PM
Who cares?  It’s the same as trainer responsibility.  His name is on it, he’s responsible.  It’s that simple!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 09, 2025, 02:07:26 PM
Seems the KHR&GC videos are no longer available on their YouTube channel...
I got it covered.
https://youtu.be/YindGSsl2L8
https://youtu.be/mcmAu-HdHJI
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Dingus on July 09, 2025, 02:54:11 PM
Seems the KHR&GC videos are no longer available on their YouTube channel...
I got it covered.
https://youtu.be/YindGSsl2L8
https://youtu.be/mcmAu-HdHJI

Nice save
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Parked on July 09, 2025, 03:13:43 PM
Great forward thinking Mike.  No I said, he said, they said now.   USTA will make out good with the many ownership changes. Hope they investigate each and everyone. 
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness racer on July 09, 2025, 05:54:24 PM
They allowed all of Wagners until people made an issue of it.  Usta doesn’t care about anything!  Williams needs to resign!  Yonkers needs to start a separate thread for him!   ngc3
Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 09, 2025, 05:59:47 PM
They allowed all of Warner’s until people made an issue of it.  Usta doesn’t care about anything!  Williams needs to resign!  Yonkers needs to start a separate thread for him!   ngc3

Here's what I can tell all of you. HTs worries are just starting, do you really think this stop with just Kentucky? I can say with absolute certainty that suddenly in the last 24 hour, MULTIPLE commissions and governing bodies have reached out and obtained all the documents and audio I've shown everyone. I'll leave it at that. As for The Pope, he's on vacation for the summer until all this is over. New sheriff is in town for now, say hello Guitar Swami  tmbz1
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Title: Re: Special Meeting KHRGC’s License Review Committee RE: Howard Taylor LIVE
Post by: Trigger on July 09, 2025, 06:25:09 PM
Here's what I can tell all of you. HTs worries are just starting, do you really think this stop with just Kentucky? I can say with absolute certainty that suddenly in the last 24 hour, MULTIPLE commissions and governing bodies have reached out and obtained all the documents and audio I've shown everyone. I'll leave it at that. As for The Pope, he's on vacation for the summer until all this is over. New sheriff is in town for now, say hello Guitar Swami  tmbz1
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The chickies will be lined up from Central park to Goshen for a mustache ride!   ;D

Ah...the Spa, nyphos, and good tunes... tmbz1

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