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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Mazola on June 28, 2025, 11:00:49 PM
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Nice drive by Tim.
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Jason Bartlett is brain damaged.
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Nice drive by Tim.
Very nice indeed, surged by the 1/9 like she was standing still.
Twin B Joe Fresh might need some R & R, she's still queen of NA, just not tonight.
Great day for bridge jumpers, so many locks either won or hit the board, T-breds, Thorpedo Anna in a 5 horse field, 1/4 not even 1/9 but show pool open too and she murdered them for fun. Sick! ngc3
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HUGE driver change. From Boxed in Bob to Tetrick is like going from pig shit to ice cream.
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McClure to Tetrick
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McClure to Tetrick
100% the difference.
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Y'all are ALL 100% correct!!! tmbz1
McClueless stayed in Canada and won 1, with 3 of the top 3 drivers out tonight.
Eventually the trainers are going to realize he isn't focused, and listening, the head just bobs up and down like its on a spring!
Move him to the Mohawk valet parking as an attendant, he wouldn't know the difference! ngc3
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Y'all are ALL 100% correct!!! tmbz1
McClueless stayed in Canada and won 1, with 3 of the top 3 drivers out tonight.
Eventually the trainers are going to realize he isn't focused, and listening, the head just bobs up and down like its on a spring!
Move him to the Mohawk valet parking as an attendant, he wouldn't know the difference! ngc3
This post deserves an award! I laughed so hard reading this ! Spot on! Bobblehead Bob is WORTHLESS. Btw..has he ever been back to Meadowlands? Don't think he has.
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This post deserves an award! I laughed so hard reading this ! Spot on! Bobblehead Bob is WORTHLESS. Btw..has he ever been back to Meadowlands? Don't think he has.
Is there any possibility he's actually being operated via remote control? ngc3
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Not making excuses, but TBJFcoming off the track into the paddock last night did look like the horse I watched walk back into the paddock at Mohawk last week. Best races are when both mares are 100%. I don’t think it’s the driver change, Timmy drove her last year with little success against TBJF. That also being said I don’t think SH last year was ever a 100 % all year.
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Very nice indeed, surged by the 1/9 like she was standing still.
Twin B Joe Fresh might need some R & R, she's still queen of NA, just not tonight.
Great day for bridge jumpers, so many locks either won or hit the board, T-breds, Thorpedo Anna in a 5 horse field, 1/4 not even 1/9 but show pool open too and she murdered them for fun. Sick! ngc3
huh?
R & R from what?
the mare raced raced twice in 2025 before Saturday nights race
it wasn't her night--she was 2nd best, giving the winner a perfect trip
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Not making excuses, but TBJFcoming off the track into the paddock last night did look like the horse I watched walk back into the paddock at Mohawk last week. Best races are when both mares are 100%. I don’t think it’s the driver change, Timmy drove her last year with little success against TBJF. That also being said I don’t think SH last year was ever a 100 % all year.
You don’t think it’s the driver change??? If a horse dropped 3 seconds with a driver change from Nick Clegg to Dexter Dunn would you also think it wasn’t the driver change?
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huh?
R & R from what?
the mare raced raced twice in 2025 before Saturday nights race
it wasn't her night--she was 2nd best, giving the winner a perfect trip
"It wasn't her night" for sure! tmbz1
(Maybe she ate some bad Mexican food in Canada before coming back to the states. ngc3)
I did see her qualifiers and races before making that comment.
I also said "might", was not definitive just a thought from a feeling.
We all know a lot of work and emphasis goes into the horse behind the scenes we do not see on paper. Maybe she wants to lounge around a pasture, maybe her fertility is sending her a message and she wants to retire and be knocked up. Maybe...
It's possible it could be the opposite where she needs some more work under her belt to come into top consistent form.
If the connections speak up, otherwise when she would race next. She's been the best pacing Mare we've had in Standardbred racing, she ain't the Zenyatta equivalent though....TBC...
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Not a fan, but Bob did win a race they call The Hambletonian.
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Not a fan, but Bob did win a race they call The Hambletonian.
Nobody said he was a never was.
He's also had some injury setbacks. However if the talent is there, when you come back it's all and more is waiting for you.
A window in time not too long ago and he was JMac's, McNair's, Roy's competition for the top spot, and a logical contender in any too close too handicap and get down on race.
Maybe his model needs an upgrade and or new batteries, a new user at the remote control, because he is still young and atrocious for quite sometime.
Some guys won the hambo and are dead now, what's bobble's excuse? ngc3
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You don’t think it’s the driver change??? If a horse dropped 3 seconds with a driver change from Nick Clegg to Dexter Dunn would you also think it wasn’t the driver change?
Last when TT drove . PRC against inferior company, next week Meads against TBJF 5 th by 5
03-AUG-2024 M M A 15 SY -2 L LIBERTY M $202,778 26.3 53.3 1:21.3 1:48 3 4°/2 1/1Q 2/1 2/4H 5/5H 1:49 27.1 $9,632 1.90 TETRICK,TIM A STEACY,MARK
21-JUL-2024 PRC F A 7 FT BARTON M $136,986 26.3 53.3 1:21.1 1:48.2 1 3/1H 1/1 1/2 1/2 1/1T 1:48.2 27.1 $66,438 *0.20 TETRICK,TIM A STEACY,MARK
SH was second week before @ Mohawk too TBJF 49 home 26 Saturday 48 home 26 , no 3 second difference.
With that logic Chantilly would 45 with a drive change
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Last when TT drove . PRC against inferior company, next week Meads against TBJF 5 th by 5
With that logic Chantilly would 45 with a drive change
Bobble getting a dc, and JMac on Chantilly getting a dc is as dumb an argument as they come. JMac is a top guy in NA.
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Bobble getting a dc, and JMac on Chantilly getting a dc is as dumb an argument as they come. JMac is a top guy in NA.
This ^^^
So many people still under estimate just how good JMac is.
Top 5 in North America and it's not even an argument.
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This ^^^
So many people still under estimate just how good JMac is.
Top 5 in North America and it's not even an argument.
And before the stat guys come out, nigga's please, I'd take a healthy, focused, motivated Jody Jamieson anytime.
Shows REAL LOVE to the fans too!
Stats, even just gobbling up wins and money when you get to the top and you typically get the pick of the litter, there is so much more to not underestimate i.e. relationships on and off the track, savvy, experience, confidence, explosive motivation...the driver / horse connection (symbiosis) that comes naturally to a handful that make them the best drivers in the world, ever.
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If you think the McClure kid can't drive then you're an idiot. Is he indifferent with some horses, especially the younger stock's first couple starts or an older horse that needs to drop a line to fit where he/she can do, yes he is. But you don't outdrive Sears and company at the Hambo if you don't have a great set of hands and ice water in your veins. I'll admit I don't think he gets along all that well with that mare but I also think that mare might have landed in a certain barn and that had more to do with her showing.
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IMO, Driver vs Driver debate is over rated.
Take the top 10 money winners in NA and I don't think there's any difference.
In overnights, yes there's a difference but that's always baked into the odds.
jmo
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McClure has been driving home winners at Mohawk lately. He is ok in my books
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If you think the McClure kid can't drive then you're an idiot. Is he indifferent with some horses, especially the younger stock's first couple starts or an older horse that needs to drop a line to fit where he/she can do, yes he is. But you don't outdrive Sears and company at the Hambo if you don't have a great set of hands and ice water in your veins. I'll admit I don't think he gets along all that well with that mare but I also think that mare might have landed in a certain barn and that had more to do with her showing.
If JMac, McNair, Roy get off and he gets on it's a drop, he's a drop on Cullen too, if Henry wasn't an elephant a drop on him as well.
The resume gets you the job, now he has to keep doing it.
I wasn't playing remember when, forget the stats, can he drive, he looks awful out there.
I won't omit him as a first thought. You can over bet him and we'll get the price on our other horses.
- The Idiot ;D
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It JMac and then the rest up there talent wise. He is worlds better than the rest! tmbz1
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The reverse plop jinx is alive and well as McClure just stroked the first two tonight at Mohawk. ;D
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Crazy how that works! ngc3
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The reverse plop jinx is alive and well as McClure just stroked the first two tonight at Mohawk. ;D
Said the same thing in the Mohawk thread at the same time as you, a little b4 lol!
https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=80933.0
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Y'all are ALL 100% correct!!! tmbz1
McClueless stayed in Canada and won 1, with 3 of the top 3 drivers out tonight.
Eventually the trainers are going to realize he isn't focused, and listening, the head just bobs up and down like its on a spring!
Move him to the Mohawk valet parking as an attendant, he wouldn't know the difference! ngc3
Funny you mention his bobble head. That''s what i always notice about Bob. Does he have sort of spring in his helmet or does he have a twitch. Friggin drives me nuts to watch his helmet jiggle up and down.
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Funny you mention his bobble head. That''s what i always notice about Bob. Does he have sort of spring in his helmet or does he have a twitch. Friggin drives me nuts to watch his helmet jiggle up and down.
You notice the head here it is seemingly velcroed to the recliner, the back of it doesn't move forward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS336zWT1f8
Seems to only happen when he is sitting, not in post race standing interviews, not moseying around, only sitting, and in the bike, what are you gonna do - tie it down to what?, Bob is free to bob. ;D
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It was probably a long ride home Saturday night after they realized how much money was left on the table last year buy allowing Mr.Sit & Steer to drive her!!🤮🤮
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This ^^^
So many people still under estimate just how good JMac is.
Top 5 in North America and it's not even an argument.
Couldn’t agree more….James Mac is easily a top 5 guy…..I also think Louis P Roy is right up there as well, he can drive with anyone.
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J Mac has been getting better and better ever since he went stateside during COVID. He is fucking awesome now and one of only a handful of guys I have seen who make horses better than they look on paper and seem to be able to "talk" to his horse through his hands (Dexter, Campbell, Sears, young and hungry Timmy T. and Dave Magee)
Couldn’t agree more….James Mac is easily a top 5 guy…..I also think Louis P Roy is right up there as well, he can drive with anyone.
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J Mac has been getting better and better ever since he went stateside during COVID. He is fucking awesome now and one of only a handful of guys I have seen who make horses better than they look on paper and seem to be able to "talk" to his horse through his hands (Dexter, Campbell, Sears, young and hungry Timmy T. and Dave Magee)
You're right and it's extraordinarily special.
Once in a rare while nowadays we see that "horse whisperer" driver, calmly not pull a breaker or allow one to get out of contention. Calmly, and quickly get the pacer / trotter while losing ground back into their stride, and use that kind of high stepping righted advantage to accelerate and do something magical.
Yes, and the better that HW driver is, the faster they could take a new horse, virtually any horse and connect and improve and go on one helluva ride. It's a beautiful thing. Human's have called it with other humans - love at first sight - and it don't happen that often with them.
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Very nice indeed, surged by the 1/9 like she was standing still.
Twin B Joe Fresh might need some R & R, she's still queen of NA, just not tonight.
Great day for bridge jumpers, so many locks either won or hit the board, T-breds, Thorpedo Anna in a 5 horse field, 1/4 not even 1/9 but show pool open too and she murdered them for fun. Sick! ngc3
Macdaddi, made a killing
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James' best quality is his character.
He's never forgot his roots/where he came from and still takes the time to acknowledge and talk to "the little guy".
He's one of the very few drivers, providing he doesn't have a drive at Mohawk, that will stick around to drive an $8k claimer in the last race at Clinton for a local trainer.
Most of the prima donnas leave right after their OSS drives are done for the day.
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Very nice indeed, surged by the 1/9 like she was standing still.
Twin B Joe Fresh might need some R & R, she's still queen of NA, just not tonight.
Great day for bridge jumpers, so many locks either won or hit the board, T-breds, Thorpedo Anna in a 5 horse field, 1/4 not even 1/9 but show pool open too and she murdered them for fun. Sick! ngc3
Twin B Joe fresh season just started. Why would she need a break?
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Twin B Joe fresh season just started. Why would she need a break?
Guy thinks he knows everything and doesn’t know shit. Hope he leaves as fast as he got here. One of the dumber things said and that’s quite an accomplishment!
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Twin B Joe fresh season just started. Why would she need a break?
On the first page of this thread I was followed up with that same question and I answered.
I said "might".
However after watching the Roses are Red final again which TBJF won wrapped up in 148 4/5, and the Perfect Sting where TBJF was urged and produced the same time on the mile track as the 7/8, there is a problem there.
Sylvia looks loads better as she did not need urging in the Perfect Sting yet Bobble was cracking her good in the Roses are Red, huge improvement, she looks like she might be the new head bitch in charge and TBJF is going the other way.
I'll remove might and say she needs something, she ain't getting better, next race will be a tell.
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Guy thinks he knows everything and doesn’t know shit. Hope he leaves as fast as he got here. One of the dumber things said and that’s quite an accomplishment!
Now that you expounded how I have been on your radar, and you've let you're feelings be known, and you seem to have a lot of them on (me) a newbie nobody, we're gonna have a lot of fun, at least I am with U..... ;D
ngc3
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James' best quality is his character.
He's never forgot his roots/where he came from and still takes the time to acknowledge and talk to "the little guy".
He's one of the very few drivers, providing he doesn't have a drive at Mohawk, that will stick around to drive an $8k claimer in the last race at Clinton for a local trainer.
Most of the prima donnas leave right after their OSS drives are done for the day.
Won the Confederation Cup and then drove in the next and final race which was a 7 claimer for JR Plante. Classy as they come and he deserves everything he gets. He has stayed to drive countless horses for me in B and C tracks when he could’ve gone home. He also drove my first winner as trainer.
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You don’t think it’s the driver change??? If a horse dropped 3 seconds with a driver change from Nick Clegg to Dexter Dunn would you also think it wasn’t the driver change?
All things equal, looks like both mares were at100% and TBJF dominated. SH great mare but the driver change had no barring.
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All things equal, looks like both mares were at100% and TBJF dominated. SH great mare but the driver change had no barring.
Dominated from the rail.
Far outside lost by 2 1/2 lengths.
The 1 hole was a gift.
No one is supposed to beat her from the wood, and they didn't.
No one even tried either, they were horrible, no competition.
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Dominated from the rail.
Far outside lost by 2 1/2 lengths.
The 1 hole was a gift.
No one is supposed to beat her from the wood, and they didn't.
No one even tried either, they were horrible, no competition.
All moot points, if you really know , watch racing then you should know that the SH having the outside had little to effect after she went a 29 second 2 nd 1/4. These are the two best aged mare in the world right now, so 29 1/4 equalized the post out at the 1/2. Know the game little pup before you start yelling, cause only big dogs bark
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Twin B was the best & avenged her defeat. Sylvia stilled raced well. As someone mentioned these two are way better than the rest.
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All moot points, if you really know , watch racing then you should know that the SH having the outside had little to effect after she went a 29 second 2 nd 1/4. These are the two best aged mare in the world right now, so 29 1/4 equalized the post out at the 1/2. Know the game little pup before you start yelling, cause only big dogs bark
Thank you White Rabbit. Here's a picture of me for your wallet.
- Lil' pup
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Slyvia was a monster today....147.2 brush and crush left poor Joe in her wake and that won got beat by EJ for 2nd....likely done in by a 26.4 3rd quarter on the lead. Slyvia must have paced her third quarter in 26.1. Unbelievable time at Plainridge
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Slyvia was a monster today....147.2 brush and crush left poor Joe in her wake and that won got beat by EJ for 2nd....likely done in by a 26.4 3rd quarter on the lead. Slyvia must have paced her third quarter in 26.1. Unbelievable time at Plainridge
I said it before that TBJF has a week side now, then she came back last week, but I stuck to my guns with Sylvia, her rightful heir / co success partner now.
TBJF and Sylvia's are like my girlfriend though, schitzo, one week peaceful another bat shit nuts, this week it's hell! ;D
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They're both such nice mares to watch. Smart drive by Tetrick today, Sylvia wanted to leap out of her skin when he ducked her for few steps on the last turn. For a big mare, the smaller track sure doesn't hurt her any.
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Very nice indeed, surged by the 1/9 like she was standing still.
Twin B Joe Fresh might need some R & R, she's still queen of NA, just not tonight.
Great day for bridge jumpers, so many locks either won or hit the board, T-breds, Thorpedo Anna in a 5 horse field, 1/4 not even 1/9 but show pool open too and she murdered them for fun. Sick! ngc3
Dunn drover her like he drove Bulldog at the Red Mile with the same result. The Bionic Man had to be foaming at the mouth at the three quarters. He had to know then he was an easy winner.
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I think Joe is better when Dunn just is making that big crush nearing 3/4s rather than on the lead early. Certainly easier to do that at the big track. She did look a bit sore at the end of that mile so hopefully she comes back strong for the Lady Liberty on Hambo Day.
Its pretty sad that there are only about the same 8 mares competing in all these races...what the heck happened. I guess all the inflated opens out in New York and Indiana and Ohio and Kentucky mean less on the grand circuit
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I think Joe is better when Dunn just is making that big crush nearing 3/4s rather than on the lead early. Certainly easier to do that at the big track. She did look a bit sore at the end of that mile so hopefully she comes back strong for the Lady Liberty on Hambo Day.
Its pretty sad that there are only about the same 8 mares competing in all these races...what the heck happened. I guess all the inflated opens out in New York and Indiana and Ohio and Kentucky mean less on the grand circuit
It’s the same with the trotting mares - it’s because of how lucrative the breeding shed is
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HN Horse Driver Win Place Show
5 Sylvia Hanover Tim Tetrick 10.20 3.60
6 My Girl Ej Scott Zeron 72.00
Pools: WIN $12,001.52 PLACE $21,396.77 72.00 to PLACE price and plenty of bettors lost place dough today!
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Meanwhile once again AKE brings in big price on a trotter in a stakes race!
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TBJF was cooked once the 53 half came up. That’s heavy lifting in a 5/8’s
Thought Zeron drove EJ a bit smarter - she needs to be given softer trips and allowed to pick up pieces right now. Todd was driving her like the best and she isn’t.
Didn’t like Periculum today - 5/8 stretch isn’t enough for him but it wouldn’t have mattered.
Why did Yannick duck across 4 lanes to go to the inside when he broke down the stretch. He should have just stayed in his lane through the wire
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TBJF was cooked once the 53 half came up. That’s heavy lifting in a 5/8’s
Thought Zeron drove EJ a bit smarter - she needs to be given softer trips and allowed to pick up pieces right now. Todd was driving her like the best and she isn’t.
Didn’t like Periculum today - 5/8 stretch isn’t enough for him but it wouldn’t have mattered.
Why did Yannick duck across 4 lanes to go to the inside when he broke down the stretch. He should have just stayed in his lane through the wire
You are right about TBJF but I don't think it would have mattered, she wasn't beating Sylvia yesterday. It's the best rivalry in racing right now.....looking forward to seeing them hook up again.