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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 15, 2025, 11:52:54 AM
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Andrew Cohen misses A LOT of key points regarding the Taylor vs. Gural defamation lawsuit. The USTA and how it's basically useless, good job again Mr. Williams for doing NOTHING. And the Ford/Gillis saga. One thing in common, they all "didn't know" ngc3
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Why did you keep mentioning Howard Taylor defended Nick Surick. What law do you think he broke , in this country aren’t criminals entitled to be represented by lawyers.
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Why did you keep mentioning Howard Taylor defended Nick Surick. What law do you think he broke , in this country aren’t criminals entitled to be represented by lawyers.
You tell me where I said he broke the law representing Surick. You obviously don't pay attention to the point being made.
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I didn’t say you said he broke the law but it seems like you’re trying to defame him by mentioning it. Obviously Nick Surick is a bad guy but even O J Simpson and Sean Combs had a right to counsel. You make a lot of good points but it seems like you have some kind of vendetta against Howard Taylor , you manipulate things the way you want them to be . You understand that after a thorough investigation he wasn’t charged with any crimes , so who do you think knows all the facts better you or the FBI.
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I didn’t say you said he broke the law but it seems like you’re trying to defame him by mentioning it. Obviously Nick Surick is a bad guy but even O J Simpson and Sean Combs had a right to counsel. You make a lot of good points but it seems like you have some kind of vendetta against Howard Taylor , you manipulate things the way you want them to be . You understand that after a thorough investigation he wasn’t charged with any crimes , so who do you think knows all the facts better you or the FBI.
Wow. You said "What law do you think he broke". "Seems" and reality are two different things. Still you miss the point of why he is using Jeff Gural when in fact he is guilty of exactly what Gural asserts. I couldn't care less about Howard Taylor. But he was motivated enough by what I've been exposing to speak to a friend of his who called me about it. Did he think having a presiding judge call me would coerce me to change what I'm doing?
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I didn’t say you said he broke the law but it seems like you’re trying to defame him by mentioning it. Obviously Nick Surick is a bad guy but even O J Simpson and Sean Combs had a right to counsel. You make a lot of good points but it seems like you have some kind of vendetta against Howard Taylor , you manipulate things the way you want them to be . You understand that after a thorough investigation he wasn’t charged with any crimes , so who do you think knows all the facts better you or the FBI.
tmbz1 Yes, Petrelli has a VENDETTA against EVERYONE including you and me now! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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tmbz1 Yes, Petrelli has a VENDETTA against EVERYONE including you and me now! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
A vendetta against a coward who we don't even know who you are, but is pretty brave keeping anonymous. For now...... ngc3
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You keep insisting that he’s guilty , please tell me where he has been found guilty of anything. Just because you’re interpreting those invoices the way you want to doesn’t mean anybody is guilty of anything. Like I said you make some valid points about Harness Racing but you’re not on the board of any racing commission, you’re not a district attorney, and you’re not a member of law enforcement.
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You keep insisting that he’s guilty , please tell me where he has been found guilty of anything. Just because you’re interpreting those invoices the way you want to doesn’t mean anybody is guilty of anything. Like I said you make some valid points about Harness Racing but you’re not on the board of any racing commission, you’re not a district attorney, and you’re not a member of law enforcement.
Again, show me where I say he's guilty? Unless of course you want to use how AGCO and the USTA reciprocated handing Jeff Gillis a ten year supsension. Just for BUYING BB3. Oh, isn't that what Howard was doing??? He tells his "really really good friend" Tony Zubkoff that I have all these invoices and will destroy him. Just listen to the audio. I'm not destroying him, he's responsible for his own actions. And who says the investigations are over? There's a new trial starting in NYC tomorrow. It's very simple, the precedent has been set that you don't have to have a horse test positive for these "undetectable" drugs. Purchasing them is enough to be handed a lengthy suspension. Remember, others have gone to prison having NEVER tested positive. tmbz1
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Just one of dozens....from just one year btw.
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Your invoices are obviously correct Mike but please tell me how Howard Taylor would be responsible for things that his trainer ordered and his trainer received. As we know a lot of these trainers are doing business week to week and month to month because outside of the big shots most trainers are just scraping bye. Therefore the Vet’s are billing the owners direct because the trainers have no money to pay them on time. That’s the long and short of it Mike , you and me can agree to disagree. I’ll give you credit for one thing , you’re a persistent son of a gun
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I'll never forget when Bartlett would tell me how easy it was just parking this horse in the mile and a half races at Yonkers and he would just keep going.
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Your invoices are obviously correct Mike but please tell me how Howard Taylor would be responsible for things that his trainer ordered and his trainer received. As we know a lot of these trainers are doing business week to week and month to month because outside of the big shots most trainers are just scraping bye. Therefore the Vet’s are billing the owners direct because the trainers have no money to pay them on time. That’s the long and short of it Mike , you and me can agree to disagree. I’ll give you credit for one thing , you’re a persistent son of a gun
In Seth Fishman's own voice. ONLY THOSE HE DEALT WITH DIRECTLY AND WERE APPROVED CAN PURCHASE BB3. Thus why Jeff Gillis is gone having never tested positive. Notice the communications I haven't posted yet? Those aren't ready to be publicized since there's ongoing litigation.... tmbz1
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Paid complete with check#....
I repeat, the precedent has been established, if you purchased it, you broke the rules.
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He kept very meticulous records of the stuff he didn't know he purchased..... ngc3
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And feel free to cross reference that address Equestology sent the bills to. How could Howard possibly know!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Just one of dozens....from just one year btw.
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Who hurt you?
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Who hurt you?
When you were a kid, were you forced into 11.bz with a family member?
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If you tell us, you will probably feel better
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Funny HT used to chime in here and talk down to people. Crickets from him on this matter says a lot! tmbz1
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Funny HT used to chime in here and talk down to people. Crickets from him on this matter says a lot! tmbz1
He was logged in watching a few nights ago.
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He was logged in watching a few nights ago.
At 4am? Maybe he’s having trouble sleeping. ngc3
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Just one of dozens....from just one year btw.
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Who hurt you?
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Who hurt you?
Sorry about your childhood