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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Chips N Salsa on June 09, 2025, 10:12:45 PM
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In what many are calling a blatant abuse of influence, Meadowlands owner Jeff Gural is once again throwing his weight around—this time pressuring the Standardbred Breeders and Owners Association of New Jersey (SBOANJ) into coughing up $200,000 to help secure the 2022 Breeders Crown for his racetrack.
According to several insiders, Gural has made it clear that failure to approve the expenditure could come at a high cost. He allegedly threatened to withdraw funding from cornerstone events like the Hambletonian and other stakes races—money that New Jersey horsemen rely on to sustain their operations and livelihoods.
Even more troubling is the report that respected trainers Linda Toscano and Julie Miller—both of whom train horses for Gural—were pressured to change their votes in favor of the expenditure. If true, this is not just backroom politics—it’s coercion at the highest level, a disturbing manipulation of voting integrity within the very organization meant to represent the collective interests of horsemen.
Let’s be clear: this isn’t about the Breeders Crown. It’s about control.
Gural’s long-standing pattern of leverage—using purse strings and race dates to bend the industry to his will—is well known, but this incident crosses a new line. Threatening to cancel funding for the sport’s most prestigious race if the SBOANJ doesn’t vote his way? That’s not negotiation. That’s extortion in a tailored suit.
Why should New Jersey’s horsemen be on the hook for $200,000 when the Meadowlands already benefits from industry subsidies and slot revenue elsewhere? And more importantly—who’s really benefiting from this deal?
The SBOANJ is supposed to represent all horsemen—not just the demands of one racetrack executive with an ego bigger than his entry box. Yet, with pressure mounting and key members allegedly flipping votes under duress, it’s clear that Gural’s influence extends well beyond the paddock.
At what point do we call it what it is?
This isn’t leadership. This is a shake-down. And if the horsemen don’t push back now, there may not be a voice left to represent them next time.
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Is this the same Jeff Gural who thinks he is fit to own and operate a full blown casino on the meadowlands property?
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Is this the same Jeff Gural who thinks he is fit to own and operate a full blown casino on the meadowlands property?
Told me in an email last week I need to "calm down". Like I fucking work for him or take orders from him. I think his intentions were pure at the start and now he's become sour and angry. I can tell you for sure his Clairvest partners act much more professional than he does.
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Told me in an email last week I need to "calm down". Like I fucking work for him or take orders from him. I think his intentions were pure at the start and now he's become sour and angry. I can tell you for sure his Clairvest partners act much more professional than he does.
You know when you realize that's it's time to put down a pet?
I get a similar feeling about the meadowlands. It is time to permanently put it out of its misery
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You know when you realize that's it's time to put down a pet?
I get a similar feeling about the meadowlands. It is time to permanently put it out of its misery
Two days a week and painful to watch. Realistic question is what are the projections for it in five years. It's right in the depositions where he told board members he's sick and tired of carrying it. Told me right in the conference room "I hope it fucking dies tomorrow". Think it's pretty clear.
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Two days a week and painful to watch. Realistic question is what are the projections for it in five years. It's right in the depositions where he told board members he's sick and tired of carrying it. Told me right in the conference room "I hope it fucking dies tomorrow". Think it's pretty clear.
Of course he does and not many know why - When he cut the deal with the State to bail it out his money is protected at 110% and the other investors lose it all! Jeffy can't lose a dime...
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Jeff is one of harness racings top promoters....
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Jeff is one of harness racings top promoters....
Are Jeff and/or Jason hurting you ?? Just put the lotion in the basket.
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I guess the millions he has shelled out of his own pocket to fund races and various upgrades to the plant don't count. When are you morons going to understand he is running a business and his main objective like every other business owner on planet Earth is to make as much profit as possible. If you don't like the way he runs things, don't bet there and or don't race there.
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Are Jeff and/or Jason hurting you ?? Just put the lotion in the basket.
If you dont open your trap people wouldnt see what a moron you are. Guess you didnt notice who saved the day after the devastating massive barn fire at Tioga a few years ago......
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I guess the millions he has shelled out of his own pocket to fund races and various upgrades to the plant don't count. When are you morons going to understand he is running a business and his main objective like every other business owner on planet Earth is to make as much profit as possible. If you don't like the way he runs things, don't bet there and or don't race there.
tmbz1 tmbz1
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don't think he is trying to get the 2022 Breeder Crown why post this stupid shit.
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don't think he is trying to get the 2022 Breeder Crown why post this stupid shit.
because that’s what Mike does. This is just another one of his alias. Look at the conversation he is carrying on with himself the sick fuck
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John Campbell himself makes it clear the SBOANJ didn't make a fucking PENNY on sponsorships. Spent $200k of members money with ZERO return. NOT A PENNY.
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Linked in this post on Facebook is the Case Jacket including the pdf. files of all the depositions.
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John Campbell himself makes it clear the SBOANJ didn't make a fucking PENNY on sponsorships. Spent $200k of members money with ZERO return. NOT A PENNY.
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Do you think with even the 200k Jeff made money hosting the Breeders Crown? NO! He just lost less. He and the SBOANJ did it to promote harness racing in NJ. You might think it was a bad investment but considering your bank account and Jeff’s I’ll take his side.
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Where does the SBOA NJ get this type of money? It can't be from membership.
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Where does the SBOA NJ get this type of money? It can't be from membership.
Been around since 1961. It's not just memberships. Just go to their website. The money is there. Doesn't mean it's money they should flush down the toilet. Can you imagine the Breeders Crown doesn't take in over 250k in sponsorship? Embarrassing.
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You know when you realize that's it's time to put down a pet?
I get a similar feeling about the meadowlands. It is time to permanently put it out of its misery
this is an excellent analogy
10 years ago, Gural thought he a 1/9 favorite to get a casino-not knowing how NJ politics work
if he could turn back the hands of time, he would have not got involved at all
"Savior" -as many think he really is--is getting exposed little by little
pumping blood infusions into an industry with severe internal bleeding is not going to work--and "Savior" is finding out the hard way--because he is paying for the infusions out of his own pocket
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This is 2025 the Breeder Crown for 2022 is over why you post this stupid shit.
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I guess the millions he has shelled out of his own pocket to fund races and various upgrades to the plant don't count. When are you morons going to understand he is running a business and his main objective like every other business owner on planet Earth is to make as much profit as possible. If you don't like the way he runs things, don't bet there and or don't race there.
Yes but when your a BILLIONAIRE and you buy a business that is failing you try and fix then move the fuck on. If you don't move on then you say "it's my hobby and i can afford this as entertainment" - You don't keep bitching year after year about losing money. If it's so bad why doesn't El Jeffy sell? WHY? Because the greedy bastard has his money backed at 110% by the state and IF he gets a casino license he essentially bought a casino worth BILLIONS for 17 Million (his last account of what he personally has put up)
So if so horribly bad and you want out Jeff then sell out your shares for 20 Million and make a nice tidy 3 Million and walk away. You won't because your greedy scumbag that is looking to make a ton of money at the expense of the horseman.
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This is 2025 the Breeder Crown for 2022 is over why you post this stupid shit.
Because this whole case was over the 2021 Crown. Jeffy boy agreed to front all the money in 2019 then backed out in 2021 and threatened everyone at the 11th hour to pull plug unless they all voted to take the 200K from SBOAJ - scumbag dictator
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Yes but when your a BILLIONAIRE and you buy a business that is failing you try and fix then move the fuck on. If you don't move on then you say "it's my hobby and i can afford this as entertainment" - You don't keep bitching year after year about losing money. If it's so bad why doesn't El Jeffy sell? WHY? Because the greedy bastard has his money backed at 110% by the state and IF he gets a casino license he essentially bought a casino worth BILLIONS for 17 Million (his last account of what he personally has put up)
So if so horribly bad and you want out Jeff then sell out your shares for 20 Million and make a nice tidy 3 Million and walk away. You won't because your greedy scumbag that is looking to make a ton of money at the expense of the horseman.
excellent tmbz1
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Yes but when your a BILLIONAIRE and you buy a business that is failing you try and fix then move the fuck on. If you don't move on then you say "it's my hobby and i can afford this as entertainment" - You don't keep bitching year after year about losing money. If it's so bad why doesn't El Jeffy sell? WHY? Because the greedy bastard has his money backed at 110% by the state and IF he gets a casino license he essentially bought a casino worth BILLIONS for 17 Million (his last account of what he personally has put up)
So if so horribly bad and you want out Jeff then sell out your shares for 20 Million and make a nice tidy 3 Million and walk away. You won't because your greedy scumbag that is looking to make a ton of money at the expense of the horseman.
We've all witnessed his tantrums and tirades when he doesn't get his way. On this occasion I think I know what he was trying to prove. It wasn't about the money, it was about he's done. So be done then, don't start coercing others into manipulating money he has no right to. I believe it's bordering on ILLEGAL. We'll see in August.
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Why should Gural be OK with losing money just because he is a billionaire? I never heard or read something so stupid in my life. That is the problem with Harness Racing. If you don't offer welfare or charity, you are a scumbag. I guarantee he hasn't made a dime since he took over M1 and you douchebags are all bashing him because the gravy train is slowing down. Name another racetrack owner that has done more for the horsemen and the sport than he has. YOU CAN'T!! You're all idiots.
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Gural has so much money he will never spend it all and you jerks think he needs money know what your talking about before you post,
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Gural has so much money he will never spend it all and you jerks think he needs money know what your talking about before you post,
Why should Gural be OK with losing money just because he is a billionaire? I never heard or read something so stupid in my life. That is the problem with Harness Racing. If you don't offer welfare or charity, you are a scumbag. I guarantee he hasn't made a dime since he took over M1 and you douchebags are all bashing him because the gravy train is slowing down. Name another racetrack owner that has done more for the horsemen and the sport than he has. YOU CAN'T!! You're all idiots.
Problem here is he crossed a line forcing the SBOANJ to pay. If he really wanted to teach them a lesson, cancel the Breeders Crown. Read what Campbell says, they didn't even break the 250k threshold in sponsorships so that the SBOANJ would get half of every dollar over that. More proof the game is DEAD. He couldn't even tell the attorney how many people attend the BC, they don't even take a count. I sat right next to him when he told me "I hope it fucking dies tomorrow". No matter how much good you've done, you can't threaten and it's in the depositions. If Mark Ford was a MAN and protected the people he uses, he would have said NO. I also thought just 200k? There's 12 members on the board, all of whom are millionaires, right? $16,666 each and there's your 200k. I agree with you that NEVER will horsemen reach in their pockets to pay for anything. Jeff said they are "indoctrinated welfare recipients with no leadership". And this was after this thing went down. Looking back I am sure he meant this case too.
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I guess the millions he has shelled out of his own pocket to fund races and various upgrades to the plant don't count. When are you morons going to understand he is running a business and his main objective like every other business owner on planet Earth is to make as much profit as possible. If you don't like the way he runs things, don't bet there and or don't race there.
I have some outstanding news for you and everyone at the meadowlands.
I bet zero dollars there last saturday night
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Now, a different perspective here. See this list? These people had a hand in too. Exactly what is it these people do? Their own President states in deposition HE HAS NO FUCKING IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTEND THE BREEDERS CROWN and THEY ONLY ESTIMATE THE HAMBO!!!! Yet beg for money and sponsorships??? First thing a sponsor wants to know is how many fucking people will see their ad! Most importantly, and this is a FACT. There are names on this list that are also in Equestology invoices buying BB3 and every other Fishman garbage he was selling! Can you name them????
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I have some outstanding news for you and everyone at the meadowlands.
I bet zero dollars there last saturday night
That is fine. That is your prerogative.
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That is fine. That is your prerogative.
Can we bring back Joe DeFrank and Ed Gorman?
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That is fine. That is your prerogative.
Not true. I've been told dozens of times to go bet something else with my money. 'm simply adhering to your directive and the directive of the people who operate the meadowlands
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Not true. I've been told dozens of times to go bet something else with my money. 'm simply adhering to your directive and the directive of the people who operate the meadowlands
Good call. Yet insists someone else pays to have races there that he wants because he wants to win one of those glass trophies at a track he owns. I was just asked why Ford would do his bidding. How about Ford should have been tossed multiple times for doing what others have done and been banned. Let's ask Mr. Gural why Mark Ford who rented stalls to Josh Marks in 2017 and allowed horses to race under George Buzzy Sholty while a USTA Director? Some of those horses owned by Mark Ford. Skip ahead to the Jeff Gillis saga. Last year physically assaulted a man for doing buisness with me right in the M1 paddock. How could Ford NOT do his bidding.
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Can we bring back Joe DeFrank and Ed Gorman?
Joe ran an amazing racetrack considering upwards of 20% of the income generated went to Giants Stadium and Byrne Arena. People forget that Harness Racing paid for everything on that property.
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Joe ran an amazing racetrack considering upwards of 20% of the income generated went to Giants Stadium and Byrne Arena. People forget that Harness Racing paid for everything on that property.
Sonny Werblin. He had the idea and they both made it work.
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Why should Gural be OK with losing money just because he is a billionaire? I never heard or read something so stupid in my life. That is the problem with Harness Racing. If you don't offer welfare or charity, you are a scumbag. I guarantee he hasn't made a dime since he took over M1 and you douchebags are all bashing him because the gravy train is slowing down. Name another racetrack owner that has done more for the horsemen and the sport than he has. YOU CAN'T!! You're all idiots.
Mike - Can you read? IF IT'S SO FUCKIN BAD THEN SELL. YES WHEN YOUR A BILLIONAIRE YOU DON'T GET TO BITCH ABOUT MILLIONS. Do you think anyone cares if I have i bitch about the price of gas when I drive a Rolls Royce? Get a fuckin clue man....Does anyone ultra wealthy person make more in horses? NO - You think Marvin Katz, George Segal, Frank Antonacci, Bill Pollack, or Ken Jacobs bitch about how much they lose every year in horses NOOOOOO - It's a hobby and entertainment.
Applaud Jeff for stepping years ago and saving the Meadowlands. Let's be clear though- it was a no lose deal for him financially AND he raised more money than he put in. You hear Marty Scharf bitching????? He was the largest stake besides Jeff.
Jeff would like nothing more for the Meadowlands to go down. He get's to be the savior who tried but behind closed doors he has his middle finger up your ass saying " these suckers just let me build a billion dollar casino for 17 Million and my money is guaranteed 110%"
Now if you need me to draw you some pictures or write in crayon so you can understand let me know.
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Mike - Can you read? IF IT'S SO FUCKIN BAD THEN SELL. YES WHEN YOUR A BILLIONAIRE YOU DON'T GET TO BITCH ABOUT MILLIONS. Do you think anyone cares if I have i bitch about the price of gas when I drive a Rolls Royce? Get a fuckin clue man....Does anyone ultra wealthy person make more in horses? NO - You think Marvin Katz, George Segal, Frank Antonacci, Bill Pollack, or Ken Jacobs bitch about how much they lose every year in horses NOOOOOO - It's a hobby and entertainment.
Applaud Jeff for stepping years ago and saving the Meadowlands. Let's be clear though- it was a no lose deal for him financially AND he raised more money than he put in. You hear Marty Scharf bitching????? He was the largest stake besides Jeff.
Jeff would like nothing more for the Meadowlands to go down. He get's to be the savior who tried but behind closed doors he has his middle finger up your ass saying " these suckers just let me build a billion dollar casino for 17 Million and my money is guaranteed 110%"
Now if you need me to draw you some pictures or write in crayon so you can understand let me know.
It finally makes sense to me why the place wants gamblers to stay quiet and go somewhere else with your money
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It finally makes sense to me why the place wants gamblers to stay quiet and go somewhere else with your money
I'm sure that's what casino patrons will want to hear if by some remote chance he gets one at M1.
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Mike - Can you read? IF IT'S SO FUCKIN BAD THEN SELL. YES WHEN YOUR A BILLIONAIRE YOU DON'T GET TO BITCH ABOUT MILLIONS. Do you think anyone cares if I have i bitch about the price of gas when I drive a Rolls Royce? Get a fuckin clue man....Does anyone ultra wealthy person make more in horses? NO - You think Marvin Katz, George Segal, Frank Antonacci, Bill Pollack, or Ken Jacobs bitch about how much they lose every year in horses NOOOOOO - It's a hobby and entertainment.
Applaud Jeff for stepping years ago and saving the Meadowlands. Let's be clear though- it was a no lose deal for him financially AND he raised more money than he put in. You hear Marty Scharf bitching????? He was the largest stake besides Jeff.
Jeff would like nothing more for the Meadowlands to go down. He get's to be the savior who tried but behind closed doors he has his middle finger up your ass saying " these suckers just let me build a billion dollar casino for 17 Million and my money is guaranteed 110%"
Now if you need me to draw you some pictures or write in crayon so you can understand let me know.
It's his show. Gamble and race somewhere else. It is irrelevant what his motive was for buying the M1 business, as obtaining it was open to anyone.
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I'm sure that's what casino patrons will want to hear if by some remote chance he gets one at M1.
180 degree difference in how casinos and sportsbooks treat me. They act like a normal business who wants and values my business. As a gambler, racing treats me as a complete nondesireable degenerate dirtbag. All they want from me is to go away and bet somewhere else. Anywhere else. Just not with them.
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180 degree difference in how casinos and sportsbooks treat me. They act like a normal business who wants and values my business. As a gambler, racing treats me as a complete nondesireable degenerate dirtbag. All they want from me is to go away and bet somewhere else. Anywhere else. Just not with them.
Because they need to make enough money to satisfy their stockholders AND support the dead harness game! ngc3
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It's his show. Gamble and race somewhere else. It is irrelevant what his motive was for buying the M1 business, as obtaining it was open to anyone.
Wow, Mike — thank you for that profound revelation. “It’s his show.” Genius. Never would’ve figured that out without your help. Let me guess, next you’ll tell me water is wet and the sky is blue? Yes, Jeff owns the Meadowlands. Yes, anyone technically could’ve bought it — just like anyone can technically buy a Picasso or a private island. Spare me the “open to anyone” fairytale. The point — and I know this is hard — isn’t who bought it, it’s what’s been done since. When someone walks in, stacks the deck, pushes a self-serving agenda, and bullies the people footing the bill, they don’t get to hide behind “it’s my sandbox.” Not when they’re demanding $200K from horsemen and threatening to pull funding if they don’t kneel. That’s not leadership — that’s mob tactics with a media team. But hey, if you’re cool playing cheerleader while someone turns racing into a vanity project with guaranteed profits and zero accountability, by all means — grab the pom-poms. Me? I still believe in calling out bullshit when I see it.
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Wow, Mike — thank you for that profound revelation. “It’s his show.” Genius. Never would’ve figured that out without your help. Let me guess, next you’ll tell me water is wet and the sky is blue? Yes, Jeff owns the Meadowlands. Yes, anyone technically could’ve bought it — just like anyone can technically buy a Picasso or a private island. Spare me the “open to anyone” fairytale. The point — and I know this is hard — isn’t who bought it, it’s what’s been done since. When someone walks in, stacks the deck, pushes a self-serving agenda, and bullies the people footing the bill, they don’t get to hide behind “it’s my sandbox.” Not when they’re demanding $200K from horsemen and threatening to pull funding if they don’t kneel. That’s not leadership — that’s mob tactics with a media team. But hey, if you’re cool playing cheerleader while someone turns racing into a vanity project with guaranteed profits and zero accountability, by all means — grab the pom-poms. Me? I still believe in calling out bullshit when I see it.
Apparently, you think I care what your opinion is.
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Apparently, you think I care what your opinion is.
Oh, I never thought you cared — that would’ve required self-awareness. But you sure replied fast for someone who doesn’t. Anyway, thanks for confirming everything I already assumed. I’ll let you get back to pretending your apathy is wisdom.
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Oh, I never thought you cared — that would’ve required self-awareness. But you sure replied fast for someone who doesn’t. Anyway, thanks for confirming everything I already assumed. I’ll let you get back to pretending your apathy is wisdom.
Thanks, and I will let you get back to selling fuzzy dice, hubcaps and cleaning motel rooms.
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Thanks, Mike — it’s adorable that you think I’m in the hospitality and novelty accessory business. Meanwhile, you’re out here bootlicking billionaires like it comes with a pension. If you spent half as much time thinking critically as you do defending people who wouldn’t notice if you spontaneously combusted at a board meeting, you might actually say something worth reading. But hey, if playing back-alley PR rep for Jeff helps you feel important — carry on. Just don’t confuse proximity to power with actually having any. Now go polish that participation trophy and tell yourself you won something.
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Thanks, Mike — it’s adorable that you think I’m in the hospitality and novelty accessory business. Meanwhile, you’re out here bootlicking billionaires like it comes with a pension. If you spent half as much time thinking critically as you do defending people who wouldn’t notice if you spontaneously combusted at a board meeting, you might actually say something worth reading. But hey, if playing back-alley PR rep for Jeff helps you feel important — carry on. Just don’t confuse proximity to power with actually having any. Now go polish that participation trophy and tell yourself you won something.
You'll always be Miquel Sanchez. Now don't forget to trim those bushes on the west side of my mansion and when you detail my Lambo, please check the oil.
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Appreciate the fantasy roleplay, Mike. Must be exhausting pretending to own a mansion and a Lambo when your greatest asset is a keyboard and a grudge. But hey, if it helps you cope with the fact that you peaked somewhere between dial-up internet and your last participation ribbon, I’ll play along. Just know this — when you need those bushes trimmed, I’ll make sure they spell out “Beta.” And I’ll detail your imaginary Lambo right after I finish pressure washing your self-esteem off the sidewalk. Thinking of changing my handle again. What do you think of: @StillRicherThanYou or maybe @MansionMaidToMillionaire or my personal favorite: @OilCheckedYourEgoToo Let me know which one hurts more.
— Chips n Salsa / Legend in Any Language
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Appreciate the fantasy roleplay, Mike. Must be exhausting pretending to own a mansion and a Lambo when your greatest asset is a keyboard and a grudge. But hey, if it helps you cope with the fact that you peaked somewhere between dial-up internet and your last participation ribbon, I’ll play along. Just know this — when you need those bushes trimmed, I’ll make sure they spell out “Beta.” And I’ll detail your imaginary Lambo right after I finish pressure washing your self-esteem off the sidewalk. Thinking of changing my handle again. What do you think of: @StillRicherThanYou or maybe @MansionMaidToMillionaire or my personal favorite: @OilCheckedYourEgoToo Let me know which one hurts more.
— Chips n Salsa / Legend in Any Language
Miquel, I applaud your conviction and am impressed by your communication skills. As an abortion survivor, your grasp of reality although compromised is exemplary, even with your short comings. My only question is if you are going to remove that hanger from your head or are you keeping it for better TV reception.
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Mike, Wow — abortion jokes and coat hanger one-liners? Bold move. Always fascinating when someone’s argument collapses and they resort to middle school shock humor in a desperate grasp for relevance. But I’ll give you this — you’ve finally found a way to contribute: as a cautionary tale. Every group needs one. You keep flailing, I’ll keep building. One of us is clearly living rent-free in the other’s head — and spoiler: it’s not the guy with the imaginary mansion and Lambo. Let me know if you ever want to discuss reality again. Until then, enjoy shouting into the void.
a.k.a. “Miquel,” CEO of Your Latest Obsession
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Mike, Wow — abortion jokes and coat hanger one-liners? Bold move. Always fascinating when someone’s argument collapses and they resort to middle school shock humor in a desperate grasp for relevance. But I’ll give you this — you’ve finally found a way to contribute: as a cautionary tale. Every group needs one. You keep flailing, I’ll keep building. One of us is clearly living rent-free in the other’s head — and spoiler: it’s not the guy with the imaginary mansion and Lambo. Let me know if you ever want to discuss reality again. Until then, enjoy shouting into the void.
a.k.a. “Miquel,” CEO of Your Latest Obsession
Here is a dose of reality for you, "Miquel". Four IM's sent to me all reveal your true identity. Now we all know why you despise Gural. I'll let that simmer in that convoluted head of yours before I reveal your true ID. PS..The only void I am shouting into is the one between your ears.
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Here is a dose of reality for you, "Miquel". Four IM's sent to me all reveal your true identity. Now we all know why you despise Gural. I'll let that simmer in that convoluted head of yours before I reveal your true ID. PS..The only void I am shouting into is the one between your ears.
Same one's I got? Does this guy have horses with Devita???
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Same one's I got? Does this guy have horses with Devita???
Sure does. Others also.
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Sure does. Others also.
He's gone awful quiet.