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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: SeattleSlew on June 08, 2025, 06:21:02 AM
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Hopefully he doesn't drink any, or he will test positive ;>>) However, he should comfortably handle this field. Wrenn had him shut down and then when he eyed Miller charging, rustled him enough to get there. He was trying to save as much horse as possible for next week, but he was MUCH the best (no plugs pulled either, although for some horses that doesn't make much of a difference.)
In any event, even money or better he is worth a good rattle next week. Wait for the post draw to see what can come under him for the exacta.
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Louprint got an easy trip in the elim. The final will be faster. I not so sure he was within himself. Wrenn urged pretty good in deep stretch & he just made it. Will he be on the lead in the final? If so I believe will face some pressure & could spill.
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I think he and Captain Optimistic will be very close in odds.
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He was not that impressive.
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I didn't think either of his first 2 wins this year were that impressive but the horse knows how to win. He also may have wanted to save something for the final.
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Hopefully he doesn't drink any, or he will test positive ;>>) However, he should comfortably handle this field. Wrenn had him shut down and then when he eyed Miller charging, rustled him enough to get there. He was trying to save as much horse as possible for next week, but he was MUCH the best (no plugs pulled either, although for some horses that doesn't make much of a difference.)
In any event, even money or better he is worth a good rattle next week. Wait for the post draw to see what can come under him for the exacta.
What I'd love to see would be a 48 hour detention barn. But the dummies have no clue to how to clean up the game. Take blood when they arrive and blood after the race. Then you'd see competitive and exciting finishes/racing. Nobody gets it though so the big stables will continue to have an advantage as their pre race programs are simply more comprehensive and effective. Combine that with the top drivers that always get their spots in the race and it results in predictable and boring racing which in turn is killing the sport. Just look at how exciting Boyd's move was in the elim, that is what the sport needs depserately.
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Louprint was in the easiest division I believe, but he did what he had to do to win. It'll be Ronnie Wrenn Jr's biggest most pressure packed drive in his career, so I'm interested to see how he handles it. The most impressive horse to me yesterday was Fallout. Hung the whole mile with those fractions and still got 4th. Horrible drives by Tetrick and Gingras on Sippinonsearoc in that race.
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Louprint was in the easiest division I believe, but he did what he had to do to win. It'll be Ronnie Wrenn Jr's biggest most pressure packed drive in his career, so I'm interested to see how he handles it. The most impressive horse to me yesterday was Fallout. Hung the whole mile with those fractions and still got 4th. Horrible drives by Tetrick and Gingras on Sippinonsearoc in that race.
Fallout left the gate with good intentions--then was parked, looped and remained parked
not one of Tetricks best drives--but it happens
two weeks ago-Fallout was completely blown away by Louprint at Harrahs PHL--he is no match for that one
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Being parked but not driven on a 7/8th mile track is not big deal. He was okay but I didn't see anything that would make me think that horse, if he had drew into the final, would have been a factor. But Tony is not having the best go of it lately and that horse doesn't seem to have come back as a killer. I'm impressed by the Wrenn guy, both last year in the final of the BC and again last night. Just never panics and it's hard to start up horses in the last 200 yards once you have throttled them down. As usual it will most likely be Burke or Takter which is exactly what the sport doesn't need.
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Fallout left the gate with good intentions--then was parked, looped and remained parked
not one of The tricks best drives--but it happens
two weeks ago-Fallout was completely blown away by Louprint at Harrahs PHL--he is no match for that one
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Horrific night for Alagna. Duration drops in behind Miki and Minnie but can’t go with them when the Cover Flow starts, Knockout Round makes a break and looks racky the whole way, Fallout somehow gets rimmed the whole way in an 8 horse field and Beckwith scatters the field when he falls asleep down the backside.
Madden Oaks looks like a unit and could probably benefit from a driver change after Boyd throws down a 53 half in an elim.
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Fallout left the gate with good intentions--then was parked, looped and remained parked
not one of The tricks best drives--but it happens
two weeks ago-Fallout was completely blown away by Louprint at Harrahs PHL--he is no match for that one
The main goal is to make the final, so you don't cook your horse trying to get the lead from post 7 going to the half in 53. Im not saying Louprint is better or not than Fallout.. It just was impressive he got 4th with that trip. In another thread I mentioned this is only these horses 3rd, 4th start of the season. Alot can change throughout the summer. I'm not sure the process but doesn't Fallout get in the final by finishing 4th in the fastest elimination?
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Anyone else wonder what Mickey Jr was bitching at Wrenn when they were going to the winner’s circle?
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Anyone else wonder what Mickey Jr was bitching at Wrenn about going to the winner’s circle?
Probably that they would have had 3 in the final if Yannick wouldn’t have driven Sippenonseasroc like Yannick drives everything
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The main goal is to make the final, so you don't cook your horse trying to get the lead from post 7 going to the half in 53. Im not saying Louprint is better or not than Fallout.. It just was impressive he got 4th with that trip. In another thread I mentioned this is only these horses 3rd, 4th start of the season. Alot can change throughout the summer. I'm not sure the process but doesn't Fallout get in the final by finishing 4th in the fastest elimination?
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Fallout is not in the finals. They randomly drew from the three 4th place finishers and Fast Choice got in.
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The main goal is to make the final, so you don't cook your horse trying to get the lead from post 7 going to the half in 53. Im not saying Louprint is better or not than Fallout.. It just was impressive he got 4th with that trip. In another thread I mentioned this is only these horses 3rd, 4th start of the season. Alot can change throughout the summer. I'm not sure the process but doesn't Fallout get in the final by finishing 4th in the fastest elimination?
well--i cannot Monday Morning QB Tim Tetrick and probably never will
when I mentioned he left with "good intentions"--of course that doesn't mean "go get parked the mile"--i am sure he left hard to secure a pocket trip or at worst a three hole trip on the cones--but it didn't work out that way
as far as main goal is to make the final--100% agree--the fact that he isn't towering over these by any means, so assuming he makes the Final by taking back then rallying for 3rd...that's not a good idea
maybe TT isn't what he used to be--that question has arisen recently--but his record and accomplishments speak for themselves..not saying you are bashing him
he was a tough spot vs that group--i felt he had to blast out--it just turned in to an ugly loss where he doesn't make the Final
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well--i cannot Monday Morning QB Tim Tetrick and probably never will
when I mentioned he left with "good intentions"--of course that doesn't mean "go get parked the mile"--i am sure he left hard to secure a pocket trip or at worst a three hole trip on the cones--but it didn't work out that way
as far as main goal is to make the final--100% agree--the fact that he isn't towering over these by any means, so assuming he makes the Final by taking back then rallying for 3rd...that's not a good idea
maybe TT isn't what he used to be--that question has arisen recently--but his record and accomplishments speak for themselves..not saying you are bashing him
he was a tough spot vs that group--i felt he had to blast out--it just turned in to an ugly loss where he doesn't make the Final
Its a shame he didn't make the finals. Alot of people on here have been questioning Timmy and whether his skills are diminished etc.. I would not hesitate to put him on a horse of mine of that caliber. I've always thought that with most drivers, they are only as good as their stock, and in recent years with the exceptions of Shartin and Confederate, he hasn't had the best of the best stock to drive. This might end up being a year where the top 3 year olds take turns beating one another with no true standout. Louprint could prove me wrong and I also love Rick Wink, another Burke horse. Im not sure what he's staked to, but he's only had 1 lifetime loss and his mile at Delaware last year was ultra impressive.
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Probably that they would have had 3 in the final if Yannick wouldn’t have driven Sippenonseasroc like Yannick drives everything
likely because he thought he had the race in hand and was coasting until he glanced over and saw Prince Hal charging fast so he had to so some urging to hold on.
Still think Louprint is the best and I think others will do the work next week and he will be close enough to brush and crush by the 3/4s
Shame about Fallout..he went a huge mile but bad drive by Tetrick but not as bad as Gingras on Sippinonasearoc, a horse I think overrated based on one big mile and Burkes filly Lookinatloulou lost yesteday and wasnt she being talked about being a monster..what happened, not even in Canada
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Probably that they would have had 3 in the final if Yannick wouldn’t have driven Sippenonseasroc like Yannick drives everything
I agree--the guy is sooooo overrated!! Because he is so predictably aggressive the other drivers take advantage of this and are able to benefit in these kinds of races.
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likely because he thought he had the race in hand and was coasting until he glanced over and saw Prince Hal charging fast so he had to so some urging to hold on.
Still think Louprint is the best and I think others will do the work next week and he will be close enough to brush and crush by the 3/4s
Shame about Fallout..he went a huge mile but bad drive by Tetrick but not as bad as Gingras on Sippinonasearoc, a horse I think overrated based on one big mile and Burkes filly Lookinatloulou lost yesteday and wasnt she being talked about being a monster..what happened, not even in Canada
Agree with all of this other than Searoc only having 1 huge mile. He paced home out of his skin in the breeders crown final last year and wins if it is another 10 feet. In that race though Zeron gave him a covered up trip and let him chase
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Anyone else wonder what Mickey Jr was bitching at Wrenn when they were going to the winner’s circle?
Great observation. I think it was directed at Wrenn, based on his expression during the exchange. Perhaps Burke was not happy with his measuring the horse he could see, and only catching a later glimpse of Prince Hal charging, where he had to start him up again??
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Ronnie’s facial expression says it all
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Louprint got an easy trip in the elim. The final will be faster. I not so sure he was within himself. Wrenn urged pretty good in deep stretch & he just made it. Will he be on the lead in the final? If so I believe will face some pressure & could spill.
Plugs were in and the couple pecks of the whip were over,he was in total shutdown mode when the runner -up came into the picture.