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Title: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 08:24:34 PM
Here you go fuckers. First of MANY to come. Jeff Gillis on phone with Seth Fishman making his buys. BB3. Now who does Gillis train for? Who is his partner in horses? The Covered Bridge has been UNCOVERED.
https://youtu.be/mzLsNuLmg5c
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Bitter Truth on May 20, 2025, 08:36:55 PM
Nicely done GCM  tmbz1 Would love to hear others.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 08:38:42 PM
Nicely done GCM  tmbz1 Would love to hear others.

Now you all know why I have taken such a beating for so long. These, and this is just the first. I don't need to say ANYTHING. We all know who his owner and partner is, right???
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 20, 2025, 08:56:10 PM
Now you all know why I have taken such a beating for so long. These, and this is just the first. I don't need to say ANYTHING. We all know who his owner and partner is, right???
Nice job. Where is the FBI? This guy should have been indicted.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 08:57:24 PM
Nice job. Where is the FBI? This guy should have been indicted.

Mike. Where do you think this came from. People gotta start opening their fucking eyes as to who the real criminals are.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 20, 2025, 09:06:05 PM
Mike. Where do you think this came from. People gotta start opening their fucking eyes as to who the real criminals are.
There is at least 40 people that are just as guilty as the ones who went to prison but somehow they skated.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: seen2much on May 20, 2025, 09:10:42 PM
Ford should resign or be removed...from the SBOANJ & the USTA. This explains how the top cheats don't get caught. Gural is wasting his money sending tests to Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 09:11:47 PM
There is at least 40 people that are just as guilty as the ones who went to prison but somehow they skated.

They didn't skate dude. Why do you think I have this? Everything has a purpose.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: The Answer on May 20, 2025, 09:13:16 PM
So this is from over 5 years ago. Gillis is caught dead to rights and FBI decided not to prosecute. Why? Covid? Or just didn’t want to indicate too many?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 09:15:12 PM
So this is from over 5 years ago. Gillis is caught dead to rights and FBI decided not to prosecute. Why? Covid? Or just didn’t want to indicate too many?

There are reasons for everything, and I have A LOT more for everyone to see...and hear. Nobody believed me when I said it will be up to the states to do their jobs??? Well here it comes.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: The Answer on May 20, 2025, 09:19:06 PM
There are reasons for everything, and I have A LOT more for everyone to see...and hear. Nobody believed me when I said it will be up to the states to do their jobs??? Well here it comes.

My guess is Gural will be the only one to do anything although he already knows who they caught and has only suspended a few.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 09:22:04 PM
My guess is Gural will be the only one to do anything although he already knows who they caught and has only suspended a few.

There are hours of wiretaps and thousands of pages of invoices with names nobody saw coming. Here's wave two.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 20, 2025, 09:22:23 PM
They didn't skate dude. Why do you think I have this? Everything has a purpose.
It may have a purpose but what about all the races he has won since and all the innocent people that lost races and careers trying to compete with a cheater like him.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 09:27:07 PM
It may have a purpose but what about all the races he has won since and all the innocent people that lost races and careers trying to compete with a cheater like him.

INSTEAD OF ASKING ME WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO FIGHT BACK!!! GO TO THE COMMISSIONS!!!!! WTF!!!!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 20, 2025, 09:30:16 PM
INSTEAD OF ASKING ME WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO FIGHT BACK!!! GO TO THE COMMISSIONS!!!!! WTF!!!!
Who said I didn't?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harnesspower on May 20, 2025, 09:31:51 PM
All those stables/trainers at mark fords should be banned….AND mark ford , Jeff Gillis , Jordan Stratton, they should give Charlottetown their money bacK TO the people of PEI……this is what destroys the sport,
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 09:34:18 PM
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: The Answer on May 20, 2025, 09:36:08 PM
It may have a purpose but what about all the races he has won since and all the innocent people that lost races and careers trying to compete with a cheater like him.

Fishman’s stuff hasn’t been around since 2020. FBI did shut down his operation. I did find it interesting he went all the way to Dubai to treat the throughbreds. If he was caught over they could of hung him in the town square.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 09:39:20 PM
Fishman’s stuff hasn’t been around since 2020. FBI did shut down his operation. I did find it interesting he went all the way to Dubai to treat the throughbreds. If he was caught over they could of hung him in the town square.

You really believe his stuff went away???
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 20, 2025, 09:41:33 PM
Fishman’s stuff hasn’t been around since 2020. FBI did shut down his operation. I did find it interesting he went all the way to Dubai to treat the throughbreds. If he was caught over they could of hung him in the town square.
LOL. I know trainers that are still using his stuff. Get real. Do you think expiration dates mean anything to some of these criminals? hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
LOL. I know trainers that are still using his stuff. Get real. Do you think expiration dates mean anything to some of these criminals? hahahahahaha

That's how fucking stupid these people are. Like it all disappeared when Fishman went away. He isn't KFC and has the recipe hidden in a vault.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 You clearly hear him say in the audio he was going overseas, think it was for a vacation???? MORONS.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on May 20, 2025, 10:48:57 PM
All those stables/trainers at mark fords should be banned….AND mark ford , Jeff Gillis , Jordan Stratton, they should give Charlottetown their money bacK TO the people of PEI……this is what destroys the sport,

Was this when Stratton paraded the horse around the track after the win and they fell over themselves writing stories about what a great guy he is? What a sham. These people are all disgusting
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: The Answer on May 20, 2025, 10:53:39 PM
That's how fucking stupid these people are. Like it all disappeared when Fishman went away. He isn't KFC and has the recipe hidden in a vault.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 You clearly hear him say in the audio he was going overseas, think it was for a vacation???? MORONS.

Fishman is still in jail BTW
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 11:14:51 PM
Fishman is still in jail BTW

Prison. Again, does that mean the shit he was selling disappeared? This stuff was manufactured and sourced around the world and he wasn't acting alone.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 11:39:30 PM
BTW, you people do realize where Gillis is referring to when he says "down there". Meaning since the stuff couldn't be shipped to Canada it was shipped to a place in Orange County NY. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: The Answer on May 20, 2025, 11:46:17 PM
Prison. Again, does that mean the shit he was selling disappeared? This stuff was manufactured and sourced around the world and he wasn't acting alone.

EPO is available worldwide and always will be. Fishman just bottled it up as some sort of secret potion
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 20, 2025, 11:56:48 PM
EPO is available worldwide and always will be. Fishman just bottled it up as some sort of secret potion

Ah ok. Then why is he sitting in federal prison? Do you have any idea how many different drugs he had manufactured? Just to name a few...
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 21, 2025, 12:15:02 AM
EPO is available worldwide and always will be. Fishman just bottled it up as some sort of secret potion
He was having it manufactured and labeled as his brand.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 12:18:54 AM
He was having it manufactured and labeled as his brand.

There's much more to it, they stayed a step ahead. And when I drop even more wiretaps from people like Dr. Maylin in NY, you'll understand. Seth made the drugs that stayed a step ahead of testing. UNDETECTABLE. He even manufactured specifically for certain clients. And what you will all find out is THE STATES KNEW, did NOTHING and kept it all under wraps....until now.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 21, 2025, 06:45:13 AM
Wow, that is some interesting stuff I wonder if there is a trainer using that product at Saratoga Harness..hmmmmm
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Big Balled Bird on May 21, 2025, 07:16:37 AM
Wow, that is some interesting stuff I wonder if there is a trainer using that product at Saratoga Harness..hmmmmm

You! 11.wp
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: PIGLAND on May 21, 2025, 07:41:46 AM
More great work by Mike,thank you
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 08:01:31 AM
Emailed the video to both NYS Gaming and the entire membership of the SBOANJ. Shut your phone off Mark! 🤣
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 21, 2025, 08:24:01 AM
You! 11.wp
I wish
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 08:44:25 AM
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 21, 2025, 08:56:22 AM
Emailed the video to both NYS Gaming and the entire membership of the SBOANJ. Shut your phone off Mark! 🤣
   Who cares?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 21, 2025, 08:57:38 AM
Clearly, Petrelli did some illegal actions here!  Broadcasting a wire tap conversation to the public is ILLEGAL DUMBO!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 09:03:36 AM
Clearly, Petrelli did some illegal actions here!

Sure he did. He obviously broke into an FBI RA and downloaded all these wiretaps off their server.  ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 21, 2025, 09:04:26 AM
Sure he did. He obviously broke into an FBI regional office and downloaded all these wiretaps off their server.  ngc3
  Broadcasting a wire tap conversation to the public is ILLEGAL DUMBO!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 09:05:03 AM
  Broadcasting a wire tap conversation to the public is ILLEGAL DUMBO!

Really? Then how did I obtain it? You stupid fuck where do you think I got it!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 21, 2025, 09:06:59 AM
Really? Then how did I obtain it? You stupid fuck where do you think I got it!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3


      Broadcasting a wire tap conversation to the public is ILLEGAL DUMBO!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 09:09:37 AM


      Broadcasting a wire tap conversation to the public is ILLEGAL DUMBO!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Unsealed documents and evidence. STUPID.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 09:20:32 AM
Here ya go COUNSELOR. It was also played for the jury into evidence during the trial. You really have no idea who is behind me do you???? Ford NEVER should have put his hands on me. AND, did you know there's an NJRC hearing today???
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 21, 2025, 09:28:52 AM
The only thing I know about you is you're a no life low life scumbag rat lower than the people you accuse....
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 21, 2025, 09:36:46 AM
Fishman is still in jail BTW

Don't cloud the grandstanding, bragging, and lying with facts. It will interrupt the entertainment.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 09:39:34 AM
Don't cloud the grandstanding, bragging, and lying with facts. It will interrupt the entertainment.  tmbz1

Lying? Hmm. Wasn't me in those phone conversations with Fishman.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 09:41:40 AM
Horses presently owned by Mark Ford and trained by Jeff Gillis...
Covered Bridge
Funatthebeach N
Ultimaroca
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 09:42:32 AM
The only thing I know about you is you're a no life low life scumbag rat lower than the people you accuse....

Who hurt you?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 21, 2025, 10:08:54 AM
  Broadcasting a wire tap conversation to the public is ILLEGAL DUMBO!
One thing we know, you're not a lawyer..most likely a member of the Beckwith Crime Family
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 21, 2025, 10:17:34 AM
I thought Italians were taught not to be RATS.  You never learned!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harnesspower on May 21, 2025, 10:26:17 AM
Wow, that is some interesting stuff I wonder if there is a trainer using that product at Saratoga Harness..hmmmmm

Wait , I thought the wins was due to the young gun Brett ? Lolololol
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 21, 2025, 10:33:03 AM
I thought Italians were taught not to be RATS.  You never learned!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Far from italian..and from what I understand, you're the rat
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 21, 2025, 11:34:14 AM
Mike just keeps kicking ass
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 11:35:39 AM
Dayum! Gaagoots? Your boy Larry should have Ford and Gillis on his bedcast!!!!  ngc3
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 11:36:49 AM
Mike just keeps kicking ass

I did nothing. It's time the work and results those agents in the bureau put in come to good use.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 21, 2025, 12:33:32 PM
Cheaters get caught and it keeps the sport pretty clean!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: OF JENNY on May 21, 2025, 01:11:14 PM
he went over seas to treat the royal families camels. cmon, you dont really think he doped up xy jet and cashed for thousands do you?
camel therapy.
sold saline too most. only the people he was closest to got the good stuff. top tier trainers in both breeds.
if he didnt get greedy he would have never been caught.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: OF JENNY on May 21, 2025, 01:15:25 PM
has anyone ever wondered how he would know what would get through?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Brown jug on May 21, 2025, 01:34:02 PM
okay props on this one
this is actually interesting and has some basis for follow up and severe penalties

Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: mannix12 on May 21, 2025, 03:35:49 PM
Ford should resign or be removed...from the SBOANJ & the USTA. This explains how the top cheats don't get caught. Gural is wasting his money sending tests to Hong Kong.

There are lots of horseman who made that Seth Fisherman's list. Look at Brett Derue. He made both fisherman's list, and he has two positive test, and his wife has had a positive test for a total of 3. They were from the Brett Derue Stable all three horses. He is also connected to the bad people in new jersey to whom i wont mention. They did time in prison, put it that way. This guy continues to race horses, and is usually assigned the top 3 positions in every race he races. I think he has had 2 eight holes with cheap 4 claimers. He buys these cheap horses and loads them up. They race and take a life time mark and then he sells the horse to another trainer, to which does nothing but break down. These are the guys that should be given a life suspension, and jail time. Brett Derue also stole my business by forgery during covid 19 and Michele Kopiec did absolutely nothing. He lied to her and told her he bought me out which was another lie. I never signed off one piece of paper. 300000 dollar investment gone to rat shit. Where is the justice in this sport anymore? How much are these people betting on the horses? Can HPI and American wagering not pick up family members, and friends who might be laying bets for them? There is a lot of questions in this sport which never get addressed. Do you really blame the public for not wagering much on the sport any more due to all this corruption? I have no sympathy for any person in this sport anymore as it is nothing but a bunch of corrupt trainers who no nothing but to cheat. JMO.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 21, 2025, 03:49:48 PM
There are lots of horseman who made that Seth Fisherman's list. Look at Brett Derue. He made both fisherman's list, and he has two positive test, and his wife has had a positive test for a total of 3. They were from the Brett Derue Stable all three horses. He is also connected to the bad people in new jersey to whom i wont mention. They did time in prison, put it that way. This guy continues to race horses, and is usually assigned the top 3 positions in every race he races. I think he has had 2 eight holes with cheap 4 claimers. He buys these cheap horses and loads them up. They race and take a life time mark and then he sells the horse to another trainer, to which does nothing but break down. These are the guys that should be given a life suspension, and jail time. Brett Derue also stole my business by forgery during covid 19 and Michele Kopiec did absolutely nothing. He lied to her and told her he bought me out which was another lie. I never signed off one piece of paper. 300000 dollar investment gone to rat shit. Where is the justice in this sport anymore? How much are these people betting on the horses? Can HPI and American wagering not pick up family members, and friends who might be laying bets for them? There is a lot of questions in this sport which never get addressed. Do you really blame the public for not wagering much on the sport any more due to all this corruption? I have no sympathy for any person in this sport anymore as it is nothing but a bunch of corrupt trainers who no nothing but to cheat. JMO.
FAKE NEWS..Derue HAS NOT been assigned the 1, 2, and 3 hole all year-FACT..AND BTW Derue doesn't have any 4-claimers..where would he race them?..Maine? This has to be the Coke Head he used to train for...Give it a rest The way Brett sees it, you OWE him money
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 21, 2025, 04:56:01 PM
I find it quite interesting that Ford, I mean Gaagoots has not a thing to say about this topic.
I guess its better he keeps his pie hole shut  11.wp
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 05:13:20 PM
I find it quite interesting that Ford, I mean Gaagoots has not a thing to say about this topic.
I guess its better he keeps his pie hole shut  11.wp

Remember what happened Sunday? He put his hands on me. Game over.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on May 21, 2025, 05:21:53 PM
I find it quite interesting that Ford, I mean Gaagoots has not a thing to say about this topic.
I guess its better he keeps his pie hole shut  11.wp

Im confused. I thought Gagoots was the guy that was dating Calhouns grandma.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 05:24:00 PM
Im confused. I thought Gagoots was the guy that was dating Calhouns grandma.

It's a sordid tale of sex, lust and deceit. Gotta watch the whole series from the start.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Casualfan1 on May 21, 2025, 05:57:41 PM
Really? Then how did I obtain it? You stupid fuck where do you think I got it!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

He did not do anything illegal. If you would read my previous post from months back you will see that I said then the Petrelli is much more connected with law enforcement than you know.  And as I have said before I do not know Mike and have never spoken with him but I do know the higher up who have. He just keeps giving you pieces that he has been given the ok to do so.
Horseman that think this is over will have a rude awakening. Always a slow process.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Brown jug on May 21, 2025, 06:55:59 PM
gillis and ford need to be banded from the stake races
i hope the good folks in PEI use them for fish bait if they try to show up again
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Neef5000 on May 21, 2025, 07:14:23 PM
Surprises me to hear how willing they were to talk on the phone like that.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Calhoun on May 21, 2025, 07:17:52 PM
Im confused. I thought Gagoots was the guy that was dating Calhouns grandma.
Me too
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Calhoun on May 21, 2025, 07:18:52 PM
Surprises me to hear how willing they were to talk on the phone like that.
Stupid and greedy a bad combination
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: OF JENNY on May 21, 2025, 08:35:41 PM
Surprises me to hear how willing they were to talk on the phone like that.
You could tell gillis was try to be coy but he just isn't smart enough. Very dumb.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Slobbert23 on May 21, 2025, 09:26:16 PM
All those stables/trainers at mark fords should be banned….AND mark ford , Jeff Gillis , Jordan Stratton, they should give Charlottetown their money bacK TO the people of PEI……this is what destroys the sport,

Jordan Stratton. The snake behind the operation. That little boy smile and sitting in the corner each night by himself doesn’t make him innocent. Don’t let him fool you!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: thesilentone on May 21, 2025, 09:29:59 PM
Jordan Stratton. The snake behind the operation. That little boy smile and sitting in the corner each night by himself doesn’t make him innocent. Don’t let him fool you!

he loves sitting behind the gassed up ones
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Off the rocker on May 21, 2025, 09:41:51 PM
The executives at Red Shores Charlottetown called Ford last year and begged him to take Covered Bridge to the Gold Cup and Saucer.  He went to P.E.I. all expenses paid took the purse money and laughed the whole way home.  No doubt he will be called again by Lee Drake this year and be offered all the free lobster he can eat if he goes back.   Even if he does get chased from the tracks in the states,  He can always go train horses with Allard on PEI. 
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: whiptherabbit on May 21, 2025, 10:10:47 PM
But will any jurisdiction do anything about it???
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness racer on May 21, 2025, 10:17:21 PM
But will any jurisdiction do anything about it???

Nope!  This sport doesn’t care.  Its participants won’t stand up for themselves.  Business as usual.  Example, fat Swede hasn’t missed a day and was caught red handed more than two years ago!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 21, 2025, 10:27:21 PM
Nope!  This sport doesn’t care.  Its participants won’t stand up for themselves.  Business as usual.  Example, fat Swede hasn’t missed a day and was caught red handed more than two years ago!

Thank you for saying it. Know how many times people see what I post and say "well now you should...". The right response is NOT WE ALL SHOULD, whatever. Just in that one phone call is enough for any commission to revoke. End of story. So again, that's why when I emailed all this to our friends at the USTA and certain state commissions I included my pal from The NY Times. Just for starters...
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness racer on May 21, 2025, 10:40:10 PM
I think you posting this stuff is awesome.  I just have my doubts it will lead to anything.  No one seems to to held accountable for anything if they are one of the chosen few.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: OF JENNY on May 21, 2025, 10:46:57 PM
But will any jurisdiction do anything about it???

How about the feds take them down? They are fixing the outcome of a sporting event. That my friends is against the law. So why don't they do something?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Jctoronto on May 22, 2025, 12:13:48 AM
https://youtu.be/7p-Tc_zwLD8?si=bWpsNz9Df4h0baQD

Stratton, Gillis, etc having night of their life with Covered Bridge Aug '24..wins second yr in row in Charlottetown before the adoration of thousands on hand.

Soak it all in other sucker horsemen and punters.

15 remarkable minutes.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 22, 2025, 06:35:43 AM
I think you posting this stuff is awesome.  I just have my doubts it will lead to anything.  No one seems to to held accountable for anything if they are one of the chosen few.

The commissions ALL know. But it's never been made public. Now there are people who are aware that can turn this into a nightmare for them. There is one group of people have have done absolutely nothing though. You guys. The horsemen. These people using these drugs steal from you and you just keep taking it dry in the ass. All of you should be in every PJ face demanding the states move. You won't.
So others are now. And did you listen to what Gillis says to Fishman? Does it show up in the bill as EPM meds? Fishman says well do you want it to say blood builder? You guys crack me up.  ngc3
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: mannix12 on May 22, 2025, 07:19:04 AM
I find it quite interesting that Ford, I mean Gaagoots has not a thing to say about this topic.
I guess its better he keeps his pie hole shut  11.wp
First of all I dont do Cocaine. Brett Derue use to sell it on Division street, near Bank of America on division street. Second of all Brett Derue didnt ever pay a cent for anything. I gave him half the horses for nothing, to take care of them right. All he did was steal from me, since i was from Canada. So go fuck yourself you POS. Worry about your own ten cent stable. He is assigned inside all the fuckin time, he told me how he does it. Put your horse up in class a little, and you will get the top three positions. Take a look at his last race card in Saratoga on Tuesday. His whole barn is full of cheap horses. He buys them for next to nothing and he improves them but milk shaking the shit out of them, and other shit he got from Seth Fisherman. Did you ever look at all the horses he has sold that has broken down? All kinds of them, and the horseman are fed up with him, and his broken down rats. The horseman contacted me on his crooked acts. Anyone who would give this man a horse, has to be real corrupt himself. I wish i would of known the thieving cocksucker, before i invested with him. Jordan his brother recommended i invest with him as he was sick of Brett stealing from him week in, and week out. I got that right from the horses mouth, so its not a lie. I dont lie, and you corrupt fuckers just cant handle the truth. Jail is the only place this idiot belongs. If any one of you POS want to see the evidence from him, and the corrupt police officer let me know. I will be happy to show you all Bretts post to me, and all the corruption that took place. I could of put the fucker out of the business, but im a good hearted man who believes people deserve a second chance. This guy deserves no second chance, as he has no remorse for what he did to me. He is just a piece of shit and always will be a piece of shit. He is destroying this business more then the ones in jail.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 22, 2025, 08:17:14 AM
First of all I dont do Cocaine. Brett Derue use to sell it on Division street, near Bank of America on division street. Second of all Brett Derue didnt ever pay a cent for anything. I gave him half the horses for nothing, to take care of them right. All he did was steal from me, since i was from Canada. So go fuck yourself you POS. Worry about your own ten cent stable. He is assigned inside all the fuckin time, he told me how he does it. Put your horse up in class a little, and you will get the top three positions. Take a look at his last race card in Saratoga on Tuesday. His whole barn is full of cheap horses. He buys them for next to nothing and he improves them but milk shaking the shit out of them, and other shit he got from Seth Fisherman. Did you ever look at all the horses he has sold that has broken down? All kinds of them, and the horseman are fed up with him, and his broken down rats. The horseman contacted me on his crooked acts. Anyone who would give this man a horse, has to be real corrupt himself. I wish i would of known the thieving cocksucker, before i invested with him. Jordan his brother recommended i invest with him as he was sick of Brett stealing from him week in, and week out. I got that right from the horses mouth, so its not a lie. I dont lie, and you corrupt fuckers just cant handle the truth. Jail is the only place this idiot belongs. If any one of you POS want to see the evidence from him, and the corrupt police officer let me know. I will be happy to show you all Bretts post to me, and all the corruption that took place. I could of put the fucker out of the business, but im a good hearted man who believes people deserve a second chance. This guy deserves no second chance, as he has no remorse for what he did to me. He is just a piece of shit and always will be a piece of shit. He is destroying this business more then the ones in jail.
Closet Fag..I mean Mannix, you need to tell us how you really feel..... and you need to stop licking men's assholes (I can't take credit for that, its an old Pigland quote)
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Stan durbread on May 22, 2025, 08:35:52 AM
could of put the fucker out of the business, but im a good hearted man who believes people deserve a second chance. This guy deserves no second chance, as he has no remorse for what he did to me. He is just a piece of shit and always will be a piece of shit. He is destroying this business more then the ones in jail.

Priceless. You if you can put him out of business do it don’t cry on here
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 22, 2025, 12:25:07 PM
You GAVE him half the business after investing 300K?

You don't sound too smart!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 22, 2025, 05:02:44 PM
YO GAAAAAAAAAAAGOOOO OOOOOOOTTTTTTTSSS S!!!!! What Larry wouldn't do for this many views!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: captain morgan on May 22, 2025, 05:56:13 PM
The executives at Red Shores Charlottetown called Ford last year and begged him to take Covered Bridge to the Gold Cup and Saucer.  He went to P.E.I. all expenses paid took the purse money and laughed the whole way home.  No doubt he will be called again by Lee Drake this year and be offered all the free lobster he can eat if he goes back.   Even if he does get chased from the tracks in the states,  He can always go train horses with Allard on PEI.

Can they afford to give him unlimited Lobster?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 22, 2025, 07:08:29 PM
You GAVE him half the business after investing 300K?

You don't sound too smart!
You, Kirby, are being too kind
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Brkn Headpole on May 22, 2025, 07:48:49 PM
But will any jurisdiction do anything about it???

I mentioned before that a writ of mandamus can be filed to compel the commission to act and fulfill their oath under the duty of public office since they are State employed.

A higher court can force them to comply and if they don't, they can be walked out of their office by law enforcement and be relieved of their positions immediately.


A writ of mandamus is a court order that compels a government agency, a lower court, or a public authority to perform a specific act that they are legally obligated to do. It essentially commands them to act when they have failed to do so, and it's used to address situations where there is a legal duty that must be carried out.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 22, 2025, 08:41:52 PM
I think you posting this stuff is awesome.  I just have my doubts it will lead to anything.  No one seems to to held accountable for anything if they are one of the chosen few.

Everything he's posting has been public record for years. If the feds thought it was worth continuing with, they wouldn't make it a public record.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Big Balled Bird on May 22, 2025, 09:02:43 PM
Closet Fag..I mean Mannix, you need to tell us how you really feel..... and you need to stop licking men's assholes (I can't take credit for that, its an old Pigland quote)

Play nice, Kevin....  ngc3 ngc3 ;D
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: OF JENNY on May 22, 2025, 09:25:55 PM
It's no wonder why he has been able to continue to race with no issues.
He dimed fishman out. causing others to go down as well.  Fbi informant.
Way to sa e your ass gillis. YOU RAT!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: OF JENNY on May 22, 2025, 09:27:06 PM
HEY JEFFY DID THAT LIGHT GET REAL HOT?  DID YOU SING LIKE A CANARY?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 22, 2025, 09:43:06 PM
HEY JEFFY DID THAT LIGHT GET REAL HOT?  DID YOU SING LIKE A CANARY?

As time passed and things slowed to a crawl they all got a false sense of security that they dodged the bullet. They couldn't be more wrong. Their demise comes in many forms. The states had their chance to run them out when this was presented to them in hearing behind closed doors. They didn't, and here we are now. CHECKMATE.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 22, 2025, 09:48:12 PM
Just YouTube. Imagine the people talking in the barns, paddocks, texts....IT'S OVER.
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on May 22, 2025, 10:38:32 PM
Play nice, Kevin....  ngc3 ngc3 ;D
Holy Christ, how many family members do you have on this site 
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 23, 2025, 10:38:45 AM
here is a big question? why did Gillis call Fishman and ask all these pre loaded questions?  It was like he was being coached on what to ask.  Fishman didn't even have his number in phone and he went on to say hey this is jeff gillis.  Sounds fishy to me....
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 10:44:31 AM
here is a big question? why did Gillis call Fishman and ask all these pre loaded questions?  It was like he was being coached on what to ask.  Fishman didn't even have his number in phone and he went on to say hey this is jeff gillis.  Sounds fishy to me....

After they bought enough from Giannelli and were trusted they were allowed to buy from the almighty himself and call him. Some were even billed direct from Equestology. All the billing was done buy Giannelli. She would cover for people when it came to billing if it needed to be split to individual owners for specific horses. Those bills were full of false items covering for the real stuff, but were correct in the prices. Like billing for EPM meds 3 doses 900 bucks when in fact is was BB3. Also she is the one who created the names so horsemen could understand what it was, SIMPLE. In her testimony said horsemen aren't exactly smart. So BB3 means Blood Builder 3. Treat for bleeding was Bleeder. And so on. They had it down to a science. But wait until you see the names I have and their invoices. FUCKING SCARY. See how angry some people are here now? They KNOW they're fucked.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 23, 2025, 11:06:13 AM
After they bought enough from Giannelli and were trusted they were allowed to buy from the almighty himself and call him. Some were even billed direct from Equestology. All the billing was done buy Giannelli. She would cover for people when it came to billing if it needed to be split to individual owners for specific horses. Those bills were full of false items covering for the real stuff, but were correct in the prices. Like billing for EPM meds 3 doses 900 bucks when in fact is was BB3. Also she is the one who created the names so horsemen could understand what it was, SIMPLE. In her testimony said horsemen aren't exactly smart. So BB3 means Blood Builder 3. Treat for bleeding was Bleeder. And so on. They had it down to a science. But wait until you see the names I have and their invoices. FUCKING SCARY. See how angry some people are here now? They KNOW they're fucked.


     Obviously you were fucked from birth....... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 23, 2025, 11:07:08 AM

     Obviously you were fucked from birth....... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

You are a cheat
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 11:15:07 AM

     Obviously you were fucked from birth....... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

How's that? I'm in my shop I created with money I earned none of which was funneled through state welfare to support a dead industry that knowingly allows criminals like your friends to operate and profit. It's all there in black and white AND AUDIO!!! And guess who has it ALL plus the privilege of bringing it out to the public for the first time. Add in the rest of the people these scumbags have fucked and controlled for decades. Stolen from without question out of fear of repercussion. You know what's happening right now? The USTA, state commissions and the individuals being exposed with these documents and recordings are buying stock in Depends, Immodium and Charmin because they are shitting their pants uncontrollably. They may not be brought into court, but it's going to be tough racing when half the industry loses their licenses. Speaker Coughlin's office has been inundated with reports and complaints the past two days. ALL HORSEMEN SICK OF THESE SCUMBAGS. The same people who just lost one racetrack and their industry is bugging out for Kentucky. So type away!!! Doesn't change what's happening a milligram. Peace!!!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 23, 2025, 11:15:33 AM
You are a cheat
  Everyone cheats in every facet of life. Dont be so naive.  Ya think Trump doesnt cheat?   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3   If you aint cheating you aint trying!
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 12:10:38 PM
  Everyone cheats in every facet of life. Dont be so naive.  Ya think Trump doesnt cheat?   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3   If you aint cheating you aint trying!

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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 12:14:29 PM
Well well well....already reaping the rewards!!!!  ngc3
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2025/05/23/3087630/0/en/AGCO-issues-10-year-suspension-to-trainer-Jeffrey-Gillis-for-buying-illegal-performance-enhancing-drugs-from-convicted-US-veterinarian.html
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Brown jug on May 23, 2025, 12:29:51 PM
yes people cheat in most all aspects of like and business and if you get caught cheating you are supposed to pay the piper
looks like gillis just got his ticket punched , now he can go work at macdonalds
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 12:36:38 PM
yes people cheat in most all aspects of like and business and if you get caught cheating you are supposed to pay the piper
looks like gillis just got his ticket punched , now he can go work at macdonalds

So will Ford be opening up more stalls for Jeffrey down here? If he does it won't last long... ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: ferdinand the bull on May 23, 2025, 03:02:09 PM
Is Corey Stratton sweating?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 03:23:25 PM
Is Corey Stratton sweating?

Let's start with one common denominator. Where are most of these people stabled, and whose house nearby were the deliveries made. All I'm gonna give you.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: captain morgan on May 23, 2025, 04:42:33 PM
So will Ford be opening up more stalls for Jeffrey down here? If he does it won't last long... ngc3

A few of these horses just posted on Ongait. Covered Bridge is 1 of them
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 04:47:58 PM
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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 04:57:14 PM
https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/building-blood-is-not-cheap-friend-harness-trainer-suspended-10-years-after-purchasing-peds-from-seth-fishman

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/agco-issues-10-suspensions-40-140000823.html
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: ferdinand the bull on May 23, 2025, 05:19:27 PM
Let's start with one common denominator. Where are most of these people stabled, and whose house nearby were the deliveries made. All I'm gonna give you.
Some trainers and shippers in Ontario should be sweating too, the dots all connect when you pay attention.  Keep up the good fight
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: AgentQ on May 23, 2025, 05:24:36 PM
Care to elaborate? Obviously Blake was a customer but I only see a bunch of US based trainers on that list.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: ferdinand the bull on May 23, 2025, 05:29:45 PM
Care to elaborate? Obviously Blake was a customer but I only see a bunch of US based trainers on that list.
The original lists are posted here somewhere.  Then look who associates with Ford, Gillis and the Ford farm in general. The border patrol should be looking into trucks and trailers crossing the border going north
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: AgentQ on May 23, 2025, 05:40:24 PM
There are many many people training at Ford's center, think it's a tad unfair to throw people under the bus if they are not on Fishman's list and train there. That being said, it certainly looks as though Fishman had extensive clientele at that place but I'd caution throwing all trainers under the proverbial bus.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 05:47:47 PM
There are many many people training at Ford's center, think it's a tad unfair to throw people under the bus if they are not on Fishman's list and train there. That being said, it certainly looks as though Fishman had extensive clientele at that place but I'd caution throwing all trainers under the proverbial bus.

Not to burst your bubble. But I've seen all of it. The list you all saw did not match the 5000 pages of sales invoices I'm privy to. In good time.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: WTF Hanover on May 23, 2025, 05:49:12 PM
As seen on Twitter earlier:

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Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: AgentQ on May 23, 2025, 05:51:42 PM
No offence taken but until i see a name with an invoice for BB3 then I'm taking a wait and see approach. Like you said, in time.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 06:01:51 PM
No offence taken but until i see a name with an invoice for BB3 then I'm taking a wait and see approach. Like you said, in time.

Will this do? 52 bottles for Nick Devita to start.
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Post by: The Answer on May 23, 2025, 06:05:41 PM
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My guess is if they look hard enough Gillis is the real owner of these horses. If not why wouldn’t Ford just put them in his name?
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: AgentQ on May 23, 2025, 06:27:57 PM
Will this do? 52 bottles for Nick Devita to start.
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I saw Devita but I was exchanging with another poster about Canadian trainers or others that reside at Ford's. I suspect all the high percentage guys were clients. Will be interesting to see if Per is on that list.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 06:29:45 PM
I saw Devita but I was exchanging with another poster about Canadian trainers or others that reside at Ford's. I suspect all the high percentage guys were clients. Will be interesting to see if Per is on that list.

Per didn't come on the scene until after Fishman was indicted.
Title: Re: Jeff Gillis - Seth Fishman EXCLUSIVE WIRETAP AUDIO 9 Minutes...
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 23, 2025, 06:41:59 PM
Everyone needs to remember this never happens had it not been for the work those agents did at the bureau. When you see all of it, holy shit. If you're not one of the criminals you should have them on your Christmas card lists. Right out of the movies stuff. And may have saved what is left of your sport.
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