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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: dougie on April 10, 2025, 08:41:10 PM
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Harness Racing History has announced that Plainridge will allow Casey to drive there this meet. Congrats Walter!
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Is this because his 5 year restriction is up when he tried to get reinstated at other states? I believe he tried in Pennsylvania and lost a close vote then.
Can someone please verify this?
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Good luck Walter! Did he get rid of Luanne?
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Zack, i'm not sure. I do think he'll do well at "The Ridge".
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Luanne has been gone for years. Good luck Walter!
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It's so stupid that he can't drive everywhere , I don't give a fuck that he almost killed his wife , that's right I said it ! He did his time . He can't drive but crooks like John Campbell , Jackie Mo , Billy O , etc , the guy's you folks idolize could drive for decades , they fixed thousands of races , he did not , WISE UP !
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Luanne has been gone for years. Good luck Walter!
Good! He needed her like he needed another asshole. She was nothing but white trash. Good luck, Walter.
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Zack, i'm not sure. I do think he'll do well at "The Ridge".
I wish him the best and hope he does well!
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Good! He needed her like he needed another asshole. She was nothing but white trash. Good luck, Walter.
Gagoots would agree ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Good! He needed her like he needed another asshole. She was nothing but white trash. Good luck, Walter.
Is it true that she pee'd in a horse stall?
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Not sure what kind of drives Walter will get there.
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Probably Bostons mayor had some influence in this along with the Go. Of his home state.
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I don't see him listed for Monday or Tuesday. Is this legit or fake news
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If this is real and he starts making money. Gets on that sugar he won't be beat. I don't care if he is a 100 yrs old.
Let's get back to old Walter case and old Brett miller. They were the best.
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If he gets 5 and 6 choice he will be a non factor. Beckwith Athearn Ranger. I’m happy he is allowed to race again but I’m guessing he will struggle. But he is Walter Case. Who knows
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Is it true that she pee'd in a horse stall?
🤔
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If he gets 5 and 6 choice he will be a non factor. Beckwith Athearn Ranger. I’m happy he is allowed to race again but I’m guessing he will struggle. But he is Walter Case. Who knows
Walter will do very well
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who hasn't peed in a horse stall?
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He may get more than people think with all the Maine shippers. Most of the top drivers are committed to the bigger stables no matter if the horse is a longshot.
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he will do well he still drops that boot to rub up against that hock. its like he knows the camera angles so its hard to see. but he still does it and it doesnt hurt the horse.
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he will do well he still drops that boot to rub up against that hock. its like he knows the camera angles so its hard to see. but he still does it and it doesnt hurt the horse.
he will end up being the leading driver there.
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i didnt want to piss off the beckwith cult but thats very possible case could be leading driver.
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He's not the driver he once was. Wishful thinking that he passes Beckwith or Ranger. ngc3 ngc3
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Talent and ability was never a question with Walter. I don't know if he wants to go anywhere other than stay local. I wish him all the best for health, happiness, and sobriety.
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As someone who watches him here in Maine, I think Walter will head south (about 2 hours) and find it will be tougher there. He will get his share of winners and make more money. A lot more. Purses here in Maine are a lot less that at Plainridge. As for his driving skills, I think that he still pretty good in the sulky. A lot of "young guns" will get a chance to see a legend of our sport. I'm not sure that anyone was better when Casey was at his best. I wish him luck.
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When was the last time Case drove on a 5/8 mile oval. Or is that a non issue?
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He's not the driver he once was. Wishful thinking that he passes Beckwith or Ranger. ngc3 ngc3
Since he's been back, he's been an average driver at best in Maine which won't cut it at Plainridge no matter what Jenny thinks.
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If this is real and he starts making money. Gets on that sugar he won't be beat. I don't care if he is a 100 yrs old.
Let's get back to old Walter case and old Brett miller. They were the best.
If you've seen Case drive the past couple of years in Maine, he's lost the magic he once had and being in his 60's now, it ain't coming back anytime soon. You can't miss that much time and expect to be anywhere close to what you once were.
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Since he's been back, he's been an average driver at best in Maine which won't cut it at Plainridge no matter what Jenny thinks.
Agree ngc3 ngc3
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send him up there with belchers steed
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would still need live drives. just depends on who gets the livest drives.
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I don't believe he will be a factor. Still has his demons. Can't or won't shake it. No driver's license and will require others to take him back and forth. The judges at Plainridge are relentless. They will watch him like a "hawk". I personally like him and wish him well, but I think he is better off driving the Maine circuit while the others are in Mass. Especially when the fair and stakes races begin. We shall see......
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As someone who watches him here in Maine, I think Walter will head south (about 2 hours) and find it will be tougher there. He will get his share of winners and make more money. A lot more. Purses here in Maine are a lot less that at Plainridge. As for his driving skills, I think that he still pretty good in the sulky. A lot of "young guns" will get a chance to see a legend of our sport. I'm not sure that anyone was better when Casey was at his best. I wish him luck.
How much does Walter currently weigh now?
I was told by a respected horseman that even Brett will lose a few close races of his weight. From my understanding, Brett is checking in at about 180.
Can someone please confirm this for us on horseplop.
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160
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Some drivers listed weights haven't changed in 30 years or more, but the majority are much heavier. Case's weight had been listed at 135 but he's much heavier than that now.
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Walter drove several of my trotters at both the Meadowlands and Yonkers in the 1980's. I didn't get to know him very well, as I spent just some 10 minute periods with him in the drivers' lounge at Yonkers, but he was definitely a GREAT driver at that time and always gave my horses top drives. While he did have a difficult time keeping his feet anchored, he really could talk to the horses! He, John Campbell, Ron Waples and Benny Webster gave my trotters their best drives over a period of 25 years.
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Are there ‘trainers’ or “chemists” at plainridge?
I understand owners/trainers are “locked” into certain drivers, but there are many others who aren’t.
From what is said about Maine, if you turn down certain drives, those people might not get a 2nd chance to drive for them again.
Thoughts and input please.
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As listed on USTA
Tentative starts Monday 4-14-25 = 0
Tentative starts Tuesday 4-15-25 = 0
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Once he starts driving, let’s set an over/under line on how many kicking infractions he gets per week.
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He moved up the ladder last year racing in Maine. Got some decent horses late in the season and handled them well. With the hot youngsters at Prc, it will never be the same for Casey, alas.
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It's official kids! Case's first drive in another state outside of Maine and hopefully the start of regular drives there!
RACE 6 - Plainridge Park - MA - April 17, 2025
Conditions: 4 YEARS AND OLDER TRACKMASTER RATING OF 79 OR LESS (NW L2 79.5 - NW L4 80) NON STARTERS IN 2025 ALLOWED 3 POINTS
Gait: Trot Purse: 12,000 Class: TRK<79Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 5:40 PM
PP Horse Med 2025 North America YTD Driver Trainer ML Claim
Equip Sts W P S Time Earnings Stable Odds Price
1 Empereurthebest Fr L - - - - - - Walter Case Jr James Dunn
2 Blue Eyed Babe † 3 0 1 1 Q2:00.0H $3990 Mark Whitcroft Megan Reynolds
3 Moms Cash † - - - - - - Wallace Watson Lisa Watson
4 Tobasco L† - - - - - - W. Drew Campbell
Joseph Di Stefano John Di Stefano
5 Pappy Go Go L† 3 1 1 0 Q2:00.1H $7250 Brett Beckwith Jesse Mcassey
6 Notoutofthewoods L 5 0 2 0 - $3300 Mark Whitcroft Cheryl Whitcroft
7 Just Roxy L† - - - - - - Kevin Switzer Jr
Matthew Athearn Gretchen Athearn
8 Massive Lightning L - - - - - - Nicholas Graffam
Brett Beckwith Michael Graffam
[9 Emmajean Jellybean - - - - - - Steven Wilson Charlene Cushing
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RACE 2 - Cumberland Raceway - ME - April 11, 2025
Conditions: QUALIFIER
Gait: Both Purse: 0 Class: QUA T/P Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 45-0
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
4 P L Pasquale 4 4/5 4°/4H 2°/1 2/HD 1/NK 1:59.4 29.1 NB Kevin Switzer Jr Neal Grass
3 Sailor Jerry 3 1/1T 1/1T 1/1 1/HD 2/NK 1:59.4 29.2 NB Nicholas Graffam Michael Graffam
1 Cash Crazy Express 1 2/1T 2/1T 3/2 3/1H 3/3Q 2:00.2 29.3 NB W. Drew Campbell Mark Harris
2 Rockin` Cougar 2 3/3Q 3/3H 4/3H 4/2H 4/3H 2:00.2 29.2 NB Aaron Hall Bethany Graffam
5 Motto 5 5/7Q 6/7H 6/5T 5/6H 5/8Q 2:01.2 29.4 NB Mcgwire Sowers Mark Harris
7 Empereurthebest Fr 7 6/8T 7°/8T 7/7Q 7/8T 6/9T 2:01.4 30.0 NB Walter Case Jr James Dunn
6 Big Al M 6 X7/10T 5°/6H 5°/5H 6/7T 7/12 2:02.1 30.4 NB David Ingraham Zach Vickerson
Time: 29.3 1:01.1 (31.3) 1:30.2 (29.1) 1:59.4 (29.2)
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No ranger at plainridge?
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Bruce has days (7) from a whipping violation from the finale day last year at Plainridge. Will be there by the end of the month.
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UNFORTUNATELY WALTER CASE HAS DIMINISHED SKILLS LIKE TONY MORGAN !!!! THE TOP DRIVERS GET THE TOP HORSES . MAYBE IF HE GETS A FEW LONGSHOTS HOME HECWILL GET FASTER HORSES TO DRIVE .
WISH HIM WELL AT MAKING A LIVING
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You obviously haven't seen Tony Morgan drive much lately like I have, he may be 66 years old but still does very well even with what you say are diminished skills. Is he the same driver he was in Chicago, no, but he's still a good driver, where Case isn't.
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I wish Casey a lot of luck.
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When Herve came back after 7 years he was not the same. I think that Walter will go down the same path. He was very average driving in Maine since he is back.
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DOES THIS DUNN GUY HAVE ANY GAS? DID HE WORK FOR BELCHER?
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I got to agree with Sam R, here. Walter has had many opportunity to get the brilliance back. I doubt it will ever come back. I guarantee it will not if he is still sucking on Budweiser bottles.
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One thing is for sure & that is Walter Case Jr creates a buzz.
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Listed on 6 on Thursday, including one for Stalbaum. Curious how many drives he has on Monday when the top pacers go to post. After a couple of wins, you'll see him listed on more.
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You obviously haven't seen Tony Morgan drive much lately like I have, he may be 66 years old but still does very well even with what you say are diminished skills. Is he the same driver he was in Chicago, no, but he's still a good driver, where Case isn't.
OBVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND FATHER TIME WAITS FOR NOBODY
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What's the under/over on the number of boots Walter will wear out kicking horses?
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I'm well aware of father time but it varies from person to person depending on what kind of shape they're in, how physically active they are and in their genes. Tony Morgan has aged well so he's still relevant.
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Our road trip has begun. We have to drive down to see walter. Stopping at gillette stadium for lunch and then on to plainridge. Hope walter has a big day!
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Listed on 6 on Thursday, including one for Stalbaum. Curious how many drives he has on Monday when the top pacers go to post. After a couple of wins, you'll see him listed on more.
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. DONT LET THE BOMBER START USING HIM THEY WILL LIGHT SHIT UP.
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Listed on 6 on Thursday, including one for Stalbaum. Curious how many drives he has on Monday when the top pacers go to post. After a couple of wins, you'll see him listed on more.
Only listed on 1 right now on Monday
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Why are people so caught up on an over weight washed up has been of a 60 something year old attempted murderer?
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They're living in the past and think he's suddenly going to become a great driver again which ain't happening.
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Why are people so caught up on an over weight washed up has been of a 60 something year old attempted murderer?
agree
but Walter brings back warm and fuzzy memories from the 80s and early 90s--and for most of us gray beards-we dont have too many nails to hang our hat on after all these years
watching the industry spiral down is sad for all of us
as far as my memories of Case-he doesnt bring back warm and fuzzy feelings for me-i acknowledged his winning percentage . but i i didnt bet YR much when he was averaging over 5 wins every night for a few years-kicking them regularly and they let him do it
i recall a story when he helicoptered over to M1 from YR then flew back...NJ wanted a piss test but Walter ran and took off before they could get one--it was a top Open horse-i cant remember might have been Cambest
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Why are people so caught up on an over weight washed up has been of a 60 something year old attempted murderer?
There are many other individuals in the business with questionable character too!
Maybe people should start naming some other individuals and see what will be said and discussed about them.
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Glad to see Casey get his first win at Plainridge today. Was kind of cool as some of the fans yelled their congrats from the rail. He ain't the guy I watched 40 years ago. But is was fun seeing him in the "Winners Circle". Good luck Casey!
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you all say kicking
you act like he getting a running start and booting these horses. that couldnt e further from the truth.
i was once told by a multiple national dash winner that lots of drivers "kick", he said probably most do. its not real kicking.lets get that straight.
he was targeted at lots of tracks cause people making a big deal of him "kicking" horses.
if he tickled their ears with a whip would that be a fine?
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With what he showed yesterday, you'll see him getting more drives. Father time has obvioulsy taken its toll, but the natural talent is still there. He will fit there.
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He will get more drives but the talent he once had isn't there anymore. It showed the past few years when he drove in Maine.
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Bruce Ranger will be back on the 29th. He will be back on top by mid June!!
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agree
but Walter brings back warm and fuzzy memories from the 80s and early 90s--and for most of us gray beards-we dont have too many nails to hang our hat on after all these years
watching the industry spiral down is sad for all of us
as far as my memories of Case-he doesnt bring back warm and fuzzy feelings for me-i acknowledged his winning percentage . but i i didnt bet YR much when he was averaging over 5 wins every night for a few years-kicking them regularly and they let him do it
i recall a story when he helicoptered over to M1 from YR then flew back...NJ wanted a piss test but Walter ran and took off before they could get one--it was a top Open horse-i cant remember might have been Cambest
It was Cambest, he won the Presidential final , Dan Kramer owed him. I was at Meadowlands that night we finished 6 th in there but Case did not fly he drove, he was supposed to take the shuttle back to the drivers room under the grandstands but climbed over the fence where the shuttle bus parked.
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RACE 6 - Plainridge Park - MA - April 17, 2025
Conditions: 4 YEARS AND OLDER TRACKMASTER RATING OF 79 OR LESS (NW L2 79.5 - NW L4 80) NON STARTERS IN 2025 ALLOWED 3 POINTS
Gait: Trot Purse: 12,000 Class: TRK<79 Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 59-0
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
1 Empereurthebest Fr 1 6/7 6/5 6°/4H 5/2H 1/Q 1:59.1 30.4 4.40 Walter Case Jr James Dunn
5 Pappy Go Go 5 5/6 5/4 4°/3 3/1H 2/Q 1:59.1 31.0 *0.30 Brett Beckwith Jesse Mcassey
4 Tobasco 4 3/4 3/2 3/2H 4/2 3/T 1:59.2 31.2 15.80 W. Drew Campbell John Di Stefano
6 Notoutofthewoods 6 2/2 2/1 2/1 2/H 4/1Q 1:59.2 31.3 21.60 Mark Whitcroft Cheryl Whitcroft
2 Blue Eyed Babe 2 4/5 4/3 5/4 6/3 5/1T 1:59.3 31.1 14.50 Aaron Byron Megan Reynolds
9 Emmajean Jellybean [9 7/8 7/6 7/5H 7/4 6/1T 1:59.3 31.0 34.70 Steven Wilson Charlene Cushing
8 Massive Lightning 8 9/11 9/10 9/8H 8/4H 7/5 2:00.1 31.0 48.20 Nicholas Graffam Michael Graffam
3 Moms Cash 3 8/10 8/9 8/7H 9/5H 8/5 2:00.1 31.1 68.60 Wallace Watson Lisa Watson
7 Just Roxy 7 1/2 1/1 1/1 1/H 9/5Q 2:00.1 32.3 12.20 Kevin Switzer Jr Gretchen Athearn
Time: 28.4 58.1 (29.2) 1:27.3 (29.2) 1:59.1 (31.3) --------------he raced FINE! He was 4th by a 1/2, 2nd by a head, and won, with the other 3 horses dull efforts. He will do fine there and be in the top 5 drivers most likely "IF" he stays on course!
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Watch April 17 races 6 and 10 and watch the return of one of best ever! https://www.plainridgeparkcasino.com/racing/watch-live-races-replays
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RACE 6 - Plainridge Park - MA - April 17, 2025
Conditions: 4 YEARS AND OLDER TRACKMASTER RATING OF 79 OR LESS (NW L2 79.5 - NW L4 80) NON STARTERS IN 2025 ALLOWED 3 POINTS
Gait: Trot Purse: 12,000 Class: TRK<79 Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 59-0
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
1 Empereurthebest Fr 1 6/7 6/5 6°/4H 5/2H 1/Q 1:59.1 30.4 4.40 Walter Case Jr James Dunn
5 Pappy Go Go 5 5/6 5/4 4°/3 3/1H 2/Q 1:59.1 31.0 *0.30 Brett Beckwith Jesse Mcassey
4 Tobasco 4 3/4 3/2 3/2H 4/2 3/T 1:59.2 31.2 15.80 W. Drew Campbell John Di Stefano
6 Notoutofthewoods 6 2/2 2/1 2/1 2/H 4/1Q 1:59.2 31.3 21.60 Mark Whitcroft Cheryl Whitcroft
2 Blue Eyed Babe 2 4/5 4/3 5/4 6/3 5/1T 1:59.3 31.1 14.50 Aaron Byron Megan Reynolds
9 Emmajean Jellybean [9 7/8 7/6 7/5H 7/4 6/1T 1:59.3 31.0 34.70 Steven Wilson Charlene Cushing
8 Massive Lightning 8 9/11 9/10 9/8H 8/4H 7/5 2:00.1 31.0 48.20 Nicholas Graffam Michael Graffam
3 Moms Cash 3 8/10 8/9 8/7H 9/5H 8/5 2:00.1 31.1 68.60 Wallace Watson Lisa Watson
7 Just Roxy 7 1/2 1/1 1/1 1/H 9/5Q 2:00.1 32.3 12.20 Kevin Switzer Jr Gretchen Athearn
Time: 28.4 58.1 (29.2) 1:27.3 (29.2) 1:59.1 (31.3) --------------he raced FINE! He was 4th by a 1/2, 2nd by a head, and won, with the other 3 horses dull efforts. He will do fine there and be in the top 5 drivers most likely "IF" he stays on course!
I don’t see him being in the top 5. His prime has long ago past by.
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Watch April 17 races 6 and 10 and watch the return of one of best ever! https://www.plainridgeparkcasino.com/racing/watch-live-races-replays
It was fitting that both of those drives were on trotters. I had mostly nice mid-class trotters over the years and he was one of the best at teaming them.
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Walter Case is a piece of shit and doesn't belong at any racetrack. He gave up that PRIVILEGE when he tried to kill a HUMAN BEING. Don't give me that shit that he did his time. If you believe that bullshit then I guess you have no problem if a pedophile who did his time babysits your kids.
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It was Cambest, he won the Presidential final , Dan Kramer owed him. I was at Meadowlands that night we finished 6 th in there but Case did not fly he drove, he was supposed to take the shuttle back to the drivers room under the grandstands but climbed over the fence where the shuttle bus parked.
thanks for the correction
i knew he avoided the piss test--climbed the fence ngc3 probably high
i was at Garden State for the M1 simulcast--made a nice score that night
you must have had one really nice Open pacer-that division they were really tough
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Can we finally admit that Walter no longer gets anything extra out of a horse? If he’s on the best, he will be right there at the wire. But adding Walter Case is in no way a betting angle. Unless it’s to not bet the horse now! tmbz1
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For some reason people want to relive the past and think he can regain the magic he once had. It's been obvious the past couple of years driving in Maine, against mediocre drivers at best, that the magic is no longer there, and he's not an upgrade from most drivers.
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The punk won all his races high. He better call Josh.
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That is or was his edge. He was able to drive high as kite with little if any of the emotions or feelings mortal humans have.
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You see it in all major sports..no beating Father Time
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Only a moron would believe that Walter can (in the current day) become what he used to be. Please. Even Walter doesn't think that. He wouldn't think it. The thought wouldn't even exist in his mind. Repeating BS like this is simply justification for criticism and hatred.
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He'll never be what he was, no one is when they age, but he will make a far better living racing at Plainridge on their 3 days a week. Maine races on his off days so he'll drive 5 days a week. In the summer, 6 or 7 days a week. He won't get the top trainer picks, but he will get his share. From what I have seen so far, he should hold his own.
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The punk won all his races high. He better call Josh.
And Dock Ellis threw a no-hitter that way too!
Your point is?
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Mickey Mantle played drunk. Had a decent career
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Mickey Mantle played drunk. Had a decent career
Rumor has it Pete Weber bowling tournaments did so too!
Someone please explain it to Mike!
We won't mention politics and certain individuals---lol!
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Locked in with pace, you're right. He's not the same person he was 40 years ago. Who is? But Walter will make better money at Plainridge than the sad Maine racing schedule.
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Locked in with pace, you're right. He's not the same person he was 40 years ago. Who is? But Walter will make better money at Plainridge than the sad Maine racing schedule.
Correct! And he is another option that trainers/owner have compared to who else is available to drive. I'd like to have this option, if I can't get a top driver(s) to sit behind my horse.
1-win yesterday and his 5% was about $ 250!
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And Dock Ellis threw a no-hitter that way too!
Your point is?
The point is jerkoff, he is supposedly off of drugs. How about shutting the fuck up for once in your pathetic life.
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The point is jerkoff, he is supposedly off of drugs. How about shutting the fuck up for once in your pathetic life.
Let's hope he is off drugs! He will have a better life because of it if this is true!
FYI, take a good long mirror at yourself as who is the real "JERKOFF" is 'KARL', OOPS I mean MIKE!
Why do I have to 'LISTEN' to a "BULLY" and a 'JERKOFF' like you?
How are you going to make me "SHUT UP"? Please tell myself and horseplop how you are going to do this "TOUGHGUY"!
Better yet, why don't you "SHUT THE FUCK UP"! All we see is your "MOUTH" here. If you leave horseplop, it will be a better place for 1 and all!
FYI, you're not going to "BULLY" me here! What are you going to do about it?
I work 2 jobs for a living, own pieces of horses, and other interests!
Watching racing on twin spires now! P.S., I have more than 20 cents in my account too!
What do you have going in life?
WHINING/CRYING on horseplop!--what a life!
Please worry about yourself before critiquing others and especially what you don't know any of the facts behind people and their lives!
Anything else?
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Walter Case, in his prime, was a very talented driver. He was a great driver. If you don't think so, so be it, as you are entitled to be a fool. You are also entitled to be an even bigger fool if you think he accomplished what he did, performed how he did, and so on.....because he was on drugs ALL THE TIME. He didn't win ALL his races while he was on drugs. He passed drug tests, more than once actually. It is simply a fact.
Now, you can debate all you want how often he was on drugs, how many races he won while on drugs, and so on and so on. Go right ahead. I never stand in the way of stupidity.
Today, from what I gather, Walter is clean and sober from drugs. He admits that he drinks. I am sure with that knowledge many people here will say he's a drunk, an alcoholic, has a drinking problem, and wins all his races because he's drunk. Have at it.
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Walter Case, in his prime, was a very talented driver. He was a great driver. If you don't think so, so be it, as you are entitled to be a fool. You are also entitled to be an even bigger fool if you think he accomplished what he did, performed how he did, and so on.....because he was on drugs ALL THE TIME. He didn't win ALL his races while he was on drugs. He passed drug tests, more than once actually. It is simply a fact.
Now, you can debate all you want how often he was on drugs, how many races he won while on drugs, and so on and so on. Go right ahead. I never stand in the way of stupidity.
Today, from what I gather, Walter is clean and sober from drugs. He admits that he drinks. I am sure with that knowledge many people here will say he's a drunk, an alcoholic, has a drinking problem, and wins all his races because he's drunk. Have at it.
The only FACT in your long winded entry is that Case was a drug addict. Everything else is your opinion which I have found to be worthless.
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Correct! And he is another option that trainers/owner have compared to who else is available to drive. I'd like to have this option, if I can't get a top driver(s) to sit behind my horse.
1-win yesterday and his 5% was about $ 250!
[/quote He is getting drives there for someone who just barged into that circuit. He has scared Greg Merton away. ]
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The only FACT in your long winded entry is that Case was a drug addict. Everything else is your opinion which I have found to be worthless.
Talking about “worthless”?
Again, take a long good look at yourself!! 73cv.2
And people have done worse in their lives!
Some have paid the price for their actions and some have not!
Again, your point is???
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Correct! And he is another option that trainers/owner have compared to who else is available to drive. I'd like to have this option, if I can't get a top driver(s) to sit behind my horse.
1-win yesterday and his 5% was about $ 250!
[/quote He is getting drives there for someone who just barged into that circuit. He has scared Greg Merton away. ]
Do you people even listen to the stupidity? The guy scared Greg Merton away? 🤣 come the fuck on. How delusional are you people? Case is a has been. He lost his prime time due to drugs and a attempted murder charge. The guy has yet to win a race in Maine this year wake the fuck up. If he was as good or like god like you people think he would be getting the live drives he doesn't get the live drives because he is a shadow of what he use to be. He's washed up! Wake up!
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MCR, I agree and disagree with you. There's no argument that Walter is not even close to what he was in the 80's. But as a Mainer, I see him race with what I consider a very average driving colony here. And he does not stand out as anything special to the rest of them. Young ones like Mitch Cushing and Matty Athern run from here seeking better racing venues and more money. The realtionships between trainers and drivers are pretty consistent at Plainridge and it won't be easy for Walter to get good drives. I think as the meets gets going, he might pick up some "live"mounts.
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MCR, I agree and disagree with you. There's no argument that Walter is not even close to what he was in the 80's. But as a Mainer, I see him race with what I consider a very average driving colony here. And he does not stand out as anything special to the rest of them. Young ones like Mitch Cushing and Matty Athern run from here seeking better racing venues and more money. The realtionships between trainers and drivers are pretty consistent at Plainridge and it won't be easy for Walter to get good drives. I think as the meets gets going, he might pick up some "live"mounts.
He is average at best himself now. Believe back in the day i drank the Case cool aid he was the best at his time and prime. But I also look at his off track life and can't fathom what he did. If that was my daughter Walter would be looking over his shoulder everyday. Harness racing and harness racing only would idolize this guy. It isn't 1980 anymore. He could of had life by the balls and all the money with it. Instead he had a woman on the ground and a knife in her back! Yea yea he did his time bla bla bla... you're right he did do his time. Yes he deserves to make a living.. but let's stop acting like he's something special. The kind of person that he is outweighs any talent he may have had in my opinion.
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Walter Case was one of the most overrated drivers to ever sit behind a horse. You clowns judge drivers and horses by their quality wins so ask yourself, how many big wins does he have in his resume? Breeders Crowns? Triple Crowns? Meadowlands Pace? North American Cup? ???????????????????????????????
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Walter Case was one of the most overrated drivers to ever sit behind a horse. You clowns judge drivers and horses by their quality wins so ask yourself, how many big wins does he have in his resume? Breeders Crowns? Triple Crowns? Meadowlands Pace? North American Cup? ???????????????????????????????
FYI, look at the current Plainridge Park driving colony!
Not many of these drivers have Breeders Crown, Triple Crown, Meadowlands Pace, North American Cup, et al.
I believe Walter drove at the Big M too!
Walter also drove in 1 of the toughest driving colonies in the 1990's---Northfield Park!
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Walter Case was one of the most overrated drivers to ever sit behind a horse. You clowns judge drivers and horses by their quality wins so ask yourself, how many big wins does he have in his resume? Breeders Crowns? Triple Crowns? Meadowlands Pace? North American Cup? ???????????????????????????????
Like they say with merriman 1000s of wins but no big stage
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FYI, look at the current Plainridge Park driving colony!
Not many of these drivers have Breeders Crown, Triple Crown, Meadowlands Pace, North American Cup, et al.
I believe Walter drove at the Big M too!
Walter also drove in 1 of the toughest driving colonies in the 1990's---Northfield Park!
Yes, Case drove at M1 in 1983.
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Yes, Case drove at M1 in 1983.
Walter not only drove at the Meadowlands.....b ut he was in the top 5 at the Meadowlands for a few years.....against guys named Campbell, O'Donnell, Moiseyev, Webster, and Manzi.....just to name a few.
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Do you people even listen to the stupidity? The guy scared Greg Merton away? 🤣 come the fuck on. How delusional are you people? Case is a has been. He lost his prime time due to drugs and a attempted murder charge. The guy has yet to win a race in Maine this year wake the fuck up. If he was as good or like god like you people think he would be getting the live drives he doesn't get the live drives because he is a shadow of what he use to be. He's washed up! Wake up!
Funny, how he is listed on 6 today and 2nd choice in 3 others for someone who is washed up and being boycotted. He already has won two at that track that has the highest overnight purses in the country including the Meadowlands. Trainers there are tripping over each other to get him to drive their horses.
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Funny, how he is listed on 6 today and 2nd choice in 3 others for someone who is washed up and being boycotted. He already has won two at that track that has the highest overnight purses in the country including the Meadowlands. Trainers there are tripping over each other to get him to drive their horses.
If trainers are tripping over each other to get him to drive their horses then they must be as drunk as he is.
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The drivers in almost every race are Ranger, Beckwith, Athearn, Switzer, Graffam and Monti. Walter will get drives on the others. 6 drives on Thursday will probably be a normal day going forward. He'll be listed over the 2nd tier of drivers. He's aged, but he doesn't look out of place.
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Hatred aside, either you forgive and not forget his trespasses, or you don't. If you do, the reason(s) are whatever they are. And the same for if you don't. But, he's driving. If your hatred makes you feel better, good luck with that. He's not who or what he used to be, as a driver or as a person. Either you believe that or not. He's just looking to drive, make something of a living, and be clean and sober from whatever vices he chooses, one day at a time. Hate away.
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Hatred aside, either you forgive and not forget his trespasses, or you don't. If you do, the reason(s) are whatever they are. And the same for if you don't. But, he's driving. If your hatred makes you feel better, good luck with that. He's not who or what he used to be, as a driver or as a person. Either you believe that or not. He's just looking to drive, make something of a living, and be clean and sober from whatever vices he chooses, one day at a time. Hate away.
Stabbed his wife with a knife how many times? Great guy. Knew another guy like him with the initials OJ. Perfect way to market the dead sport. ngc3
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Grandstand, you hit it right on the nail. The hate by some for Walter is just that.....hate. He knows he did a horrible thing. And you are right! He is far from the driver he was in the "old days". But he's just trying to make a living. And I think that he fits in with the driver colony at Plainridge. He will win his share and make some money. I wish him luck.
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Grandstand, you hit it right on the nail. The hate by some for Walter is just that.....hate. He knows he did a horrible thing. And you are right! He is far from the driver he was in the "old days". But he's just trying to make a living. And I think that he fits in with the driver colony at Plainridge. He will win his share and make some money. I wish him luck.
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Let’s stop with the Walter talk. He’s not even a top 5 driver in Maine. Let that sink in…MAINE! In my opinion he will not make enough at Plainridge to warrant the commute. tmbz1
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I believe Plainridge pays the driver a stipend no matter where they finish. Plus, their purses are phenomenal. The smallest purse I read was $10,000. He has 15 drives on Monday and Tuesday. Unless he takes a private jet, I think he will more than pay for his commute.
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I believe Plainridge pays the driver a stipend no matter where they finish. Plus, their purses are phenomenal. The smallest purse I read was $10,000. He has 15 drives on Monday and Tuesday. Unless he takes a private jet, I think he will more than pay for his commute.
I know he is getting listed on more races than any other driver there or at least as many as any of them are. So much for he is going to be lucky to get 2 drives a week. He already has 2 wins and will triple that this week. He said I am done with Bangor. I am not going all the way up there on Wednesdays and Sundays unless it is a stake race week. Plainridge has higher overnight purses than the Meadowlands has. I broke back in here without a hitch. I have to turn down trainers.
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Walter's driving in 7 races tomorrow (Monday). He's got those first two wins under his belt and will do better as the Plainridge meet continues. It's an interesting drivers colony there with plenty of "Mainers" to watch. If you talk with the fans attending the races, almost all I've spoke to are happy to see Walter racing there.
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Numbers don’t lie Case Jr Walter 8.7 23 2 1 3 .155 22,780,
His Plainridge #’s , I don’t see them improving very much, he’s old and over matched , BB, K jr, Shawn G when he shows up D . Monti , Nick G , Matty A.
That’s and ok driving colony and Case is struggling and anyone wanting can see that. Bret is showing he can go a lot of places and do very well, except YRs but that’s a tough colonial on a nightly basis, give a year more and he will be top 4 there to.
Case’s time has come and gone to be a top overnight driver anywhere. Just to clarify he was never above average stakes big money drive. Again stats don’t show nor do they lie
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Numbers don’t lie Case Jr Walter 8.7 23 2 1 3 .155 22,780,
His Plainridge #’s , I don’t see them improving very much, he’s old and over matched , BB, K jr, Shawn G when he shows up D . Monti , Nick G , Matty A.
That’s and ok driving colony and Case is struggling and anyone wanting can see that. Bret is showing he can go a lot of places and do very well, except YRs but that’s a tough colonial on a nightly basis, give a year more and he will be top 4 there to.
Case’s time has come and gone to be a top overnight driver anywhere. Just to clarify he was never above average stakes big money drive. Again stats don’t show nor do they lie
Thank you! Somebody who is realistic! Guy is a washed up has been. Time to move on and stop with all this Walter Case nonsense. I guarantee he won't crack top 5 at ridge. He's struggling in Maine for fuck sakes. If it wasn't for stakes season in Maine the guy would starve. Only thing plainridge is it's a little extra beer and cigarette money. Walter as we knew him in the 90s is dead and gone. When he stabbed his ex wife in the back he stabbed his career in the jugular!
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If you don’t think he’s past his prime , watch the 1st from PR , he pulls the pocket at the 3/4 ‘s following the chalk. Way past his overnight prime.
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If you don’t think he’s past his prime , watch the 1st from PR , he pulls the pocket at the 3/4 ‘s following the chalk. Way past his overnight prime.
He's got a win and 2 seconds in the first 4 races. 2nd on a 60-1 shot in the 4th. He is putting on a clinic there today.
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Thank you! Somebody who is realistic! Guy is a washed up has been. Time to move on and stop with all this Walter Case nonsense. I guarantee he won't crack top 5 at ridge. He's struggling in Maine for fuck sakes. If it wasn't for stakes season in Maine the guy would starve. Only thing plainridge is it's a little extra beer and cigarette money. Walter as we knew him in the 90s is dead and gone. When he stabbed his ex wife in the back he stabbed his career in the jugular!
Tough to be a top 5 driver when you get the 6th/7th best horse! At least he has an opportunity to make decent money at the ridge compared to the ‘bullring’ of Bangor!
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He's got a win and 2 seconds in the first 4 races. 2nd on a 60-1 shot in the 4th. He is putting on a clinic there today.
You'll be the only person at his clinic.
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mtnskipper.....Ca sey is doing good at Plainridge. He will make a decent living. He won't probably in the top 5 drivers there, but I think he's got a shot to be in the top 10.
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Considering there aren't that many drivers in the first place, if he's not in the top 10 he might as well retire.
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Scooteroo.....I think Casey will be glad with kind of day he had today. If he wins one each day and is in the money a few times, he'll be making more money then if he races in Maine.
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There's no reason he shouldn't be somewhere around 7th or 8th, which is decent money for someone who's basically broke.
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I agree. I think he'll do fine. I'm not sure if anyone can make a great living racing in Maine.
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Friday/ Saturday at Cumby and down here Monday, Tuesday and Thursdays for chunks of those 10k purses.
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I remember the horse Mountain Skipper from a long time ago driven by Arthur Nason.
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He's got a win and 2 seconds in the first 4 races. 2nd on a 60-1 shot in the 4th. He is putting on a clinic there today.
1 for 7 is no Clinic , he’s a bottom feeder there, give it a another 2 weeks and he will be driving long odds horses. After he shows he’s in over his head the few trainers that are showing some allegiance to him will list him as a back up.
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He's also benefitted by Bruce Ranger not driving there yet.
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Everyone, let’s simmer down a little.
The guy can still drive.
If you watched him yesterday, and not convinced, then you’ll never be.
He fits fine into that driving colony, and I’m sure he is thrilled.
How about just enjoy it and don’t look for ways to be so negative.
If you don’t like the guy for his past, so be it.
It’s out of your control, so either enjoy the racing product or find another track to consume.
“All the negativity in this town sucks and it stinks!”
Coach Rick Pitino when he was with the Celtics.
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Everyone, let’s simmer down a little.
The guy can still drive.
If you watched him yesterday, and not convinced, then you’ll never be.
He fits fine into that driving colony, and I’m sure he is thrilled.
How about just enjoy it and don’t look for ways to be so negative.
If you don’t like the guy for his past, so be it.
It’s out of your control, so either enjoy the racing product or find another track to consume.
“All the negativity in this town sucks and it stinks!”
Coach Rick Pitino when he was with the Celtics.
Thank you. Hear hear.
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Everyone, let’s simmer down a little.
The guy can still drive.
If you watched him yesterday, and not convinced, then you’ll never be.
He fits fine into that driving colony, and I’m sure he is thrilled.
How about just enjoy it and don’t look for ways to be so negative.
If you don’t like the guy for his past, so be it.
It’s out of your control, so either enjoy the racing product or find another track to consume.
“All the negativity in this town sucks and it stinks!”
Coach Rick Pitino when he was with the Celtics.
For the purse structure plainridge has a very very weak driving colony.
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I remember the horse Mountain Skipper from a long time ago driven by Arthur Nason.
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As a "Mainer', all I can say is Congrats Casey. He fits the driving colony at Plainridge. I know that he'll make a better living splitting his time between Massacusetts and Maine. Watching him drive, anyone can see that he still has the ability to get to the winner's circle. There's a rumor that the state of Deleware has lifted it's suspension of Casey. I've tried to check with no success on that rumor. I doubt he'll go that far away from home anyway.
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Friday/ Saturday at Cumby and down here Monday, Tuesday and Thursdays for chunks of those 10k purses.
Where is Gumby?
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Where is Gumby?
Check your glasses. Cumby is Cumberland race track and fairgrounds. Walter has many drives there today and tomorrow actually. The purses are less than half of Plainridge's but he lives near there I believe. All the horseman and the 15 fans who attend the races there call it that.
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I'm about 30 miles from Cumberland. It's really a fair track. But despite the very low attendance. you can stand around and chat with the owners and trainers. Purses stink, racing is mediocre, grandstand looks like it will fall down any minute. But the air is fresh and the area is very pretty.
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Casey had a couple of wins at Cumberland today. With his success at Plaunridge, he could carve out a decent living. A lot of driving back and forth.
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Right now he is in 6th place in the standings and doing just fine! 6th place: Case Jr Walter 12.8% 47-6-4-5 $72,500
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I agree Wiz!
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If you bypass Case at # 6 with the top 5 taken, who drives for you if you're racing at Plainridge??