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Title: Who is Elite 17 ?
Post by: Yonkers1A on April 04, 2025, 09:18:47 AM
This bettor makes up 50% of the Delmar handle as reported in the TDN news, who is this guy betting millions ?
Title: Re: Who is Elite 17 ?
Post by: Papillon on April 04, 2025, 10:12:42 AM
Australia gambler who wagers hundreds of millions per year
Title: Re: Who is Elite 17 ?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 04, 2025, 11:31:49 PM
At one time, in a given year, this bettor/group allegedly was responsible for 50% of the Del Mar handle. I was told from what I think is a very reliable source that in 2023 or 2024 they bet about $650 million. I wouldn't argue it, but it just seems hard to fathom, LOL.
Title: Re: Who is Elite 17 ?
Post by: Papillon on April 05, 2025, 10:06:13 AM
At one time, in a given year, this bettor/group allegedly was responsible for 50% of the Del Mar handle. I was told from what I think is a very reliable source that in 2023 or 2024 they bet about $650 million. I wouldn't argue it, but it just seems hard to fathom, LOL.

it is true

all documented...on the Paulick Reort at least

TFI-thoroughbred integrity also has documented this
Title: Re: Who is Elite 17 ?
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on April 05, 2025, 10:36:56 AM
If anyone has questions or is interested in Elite 17, leave right now and go gamble on something else!!!
Title: Re: Who is Elite 17 ?
Post by: Yonkers1A on April 05, 2025, 01:47:46 PM
If anyone has questions or is interested in Elite 17, leave right now and go gamble on something else!!!

Thank you, I have Duke gpoing to win it all
Title: Re: Who is Elite 17 ?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on April 06, 2025, 09:21:21 PM
it is true

all documented...on the Paulick Reort at least

TFI-thoroughbred integrity also has documented this

I believe it. Like I said, I was told by someone who I say is a very reliable source. Apparently, it's been documented elsewhere as well. I know most of the major players in NA on the s-bred side. I know a couple on the t-bred side, and a couple of pros I know on the t-bred side know every major player there. Having made my living in this sport/business, I get that these are teams, investors, whatever you want to call it. I get that they play in a way, and at a level, nobody (at least individual bettors) can really understand. They are just monster numbers that are really hard to get a grasp on. I mean, you are talking over $50m a month. I don't bet every race on a card. I sometimes don't bet any race on a card. I pick and choose my spots, I am selective, etc. It's my living. But even though they mitigate or perhaps come close to eliminating risk, they are still monster numbers. I know a guy who is a member of a CAW team. We talk a lot. I get what they are doing. Even though it's their norm, the #'s are just monster numbers.
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