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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Harness Racing Revolution on March 17, 2025, 07:41:24 AM
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I spoke to Eric Warner on Thursday. He told me it's under control and "they're out there working on it". There are some people I do feel bad for up there because he's telling everyone the same thing. This is the present state of harness racing, hope you people start waking up and realizing that. As for Gaagoots/King Haku, maybe you should have mommy claim some better horses so you can actually get a start in. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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USTA is saying cancelled today.
Nobody is answering the phone this morning. They must be out looking for new jobs.
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USTA is saying cancelled today.
Nobody is answering the phone this morning. They must be out looking for new jobs.
No material, no machinery and no clue. If they were trying to fill in low spots that never works. Tear it up, grade and reshape it.
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Hopefully they’re at the bar celebrating St. Patrick’s day.
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Just a thought.....until they get the track fixed - they should use Yonkers during the daytime and call it "Monti at Midday"..... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Just a thought.....until they get the track fixed - they should use Yonkers during the daytime and call it "Monti at Midday"..... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Race at Goshen. It’s much closer. I’m sure Ray Shitkicker won’t mind.
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Now we’re are thinking , NYRA does it with their Belmont at Aqueduct. I think either track can handle the Monticello crowd, however Jonkers has a better tote board. Monticello at Jonkers makes sense
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Now we’re are thinking , NYRA does it with their Belmont at Aqueduct. I think either track can handle the Monticello crowd, however Jonkers has a better tote board. Monticello at Jonkers makes sense
stop talking to yourself Mike you sound like a moron
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What's the timeframe? Legit, not the BS rumor and innuendo. The logistics wouldn't be easy. Shipping from Monticello to YR, every race day, every race, every horse? I am sure the first question will be, who is going to pay? LOL. Aside from the logistics, personally, I think the small-minded management of both tracks could pull this off anyway.
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What's the timeframe? Legit, not the BS rumor and innuendo. The logistics wouldn't be easy. Shipping from Monticello to YR, every race day, every race, every horse? I am sure the first question will be, who is going to pay? LOL. Aside from the logistics, personally, I think the small-minded management of both tracks could pull this off anyway.
First of all, NYS Gaming has to approve it. Secondly, these people can't afford to walk from their barn to the paddock at MR, who's going to pay for the trip to Yonkers? You think the track that couldn't care less if they race would entertain this? The actual issue is the track. They have no material. Nothing even close to what is necessary to correctly rebuild "not repair" the track they have. Ownership is only concerned with who gets a license in NYC, after that nothing good is going to happen. The backstretch at Monticello is absolutely disgusting. The grandstand is closed. They weren't even answering the phones at the race office this morning. And like Trump told Zelensky, the horsemen have no cards in their hand. Where are Faraldo and Schwartz in all this??? You know the horsemen's association who are there to protect and represent them? It's pushing a month and the truth is no those people cannot absorb this.
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Everyone needs to take a deep breath on this .......my "suggestion" of taking the "Monti show" on the road was a joke people!!! Just an attempt at a little Monday morning humor people.
Actually, not having Monti open has saved me some cash........I haven't had to try to figure out which Merton boy isn't stiffing his horse - in weeks!!!! 73cv.2
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At this point Monti has canceled long enough for them to redo the entire track. But I would bet, not much has been done to the track surface.
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At this point Monti has canceled long enough for them to redo the entire track. But I would bet, not much has been done to the track surface.
If they're only patching and that rain hit it last night it's a mess again. Knowing and time are the only way to regrade a track and it set.
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I was just asking if there has been any reported timeframe on racing starting again. Legit reporting, not BS. LOL.
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I was just asking if there has been any reported timeframe on racing starting again. Legit reporting, not BS. LOL.
Are you serious? Well last week Eric Warner told me it was under control and they're out there working on it. How'd that work out? My God you have issues. I read your post from earlier where you are making statements and at the same time saying you didn't know and weren't there. So you're posting BS? Like I said long ago, if someone doesn't whole heartedly agree with you, you short circuit. Jeeeze.
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Only so much you can do with a track with a winter like this. Blame management or the employees all you want but Mother Nature been a bitch this winter
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Please. Are they somehow experiencing a different winter than Nfld, Meadows, Pocono, Saratoga, Buffalo?
I think not. I do think they apparently suck. BIG TIME.
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Please. Are they somehow experiencing a different winter than Nfld, Meadows, Pocono, Saratoga, Buffalo?
I think not. I do think they apparently suck. BIG TIME.
Exactly. First of all every time they scrape the track up there when they lose material it's never replaced. They get right into the base. And because those people can't last a week without racing, they will sacrifice to race one day and pay for it later. Like right now. I was taught by the Coons boys and their old man. Don't think of it as a track, it's a road. And is built the same way. The track is only 3 inches think, the rest is your foundation. Layers of the correct materials compacted evenly. But if you expose it, collapse. Just like a road. And if you try to fill in a pothole or on a track "low spots" you can't expect the same compaction. My bet is last nights rain destroyed whatever it is they did and now there's an even bigger mess. We'll see tomorrow I guess. But it's a shit show. When is the last time you heard of a track losing three weeks and the sun has been out the entire time except for one day?
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Please. Are they somehow experiencing a different winter than Nfld, Meadows, Pocono, Saratoga, Buffalo?
I think not. I do think they apparently suck. BIG TIME.
Absolutely correct and this winter wasn’t any different than the past 10 years except less snow.
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Absolutely correct and this winter wasn’t any different than the past 10 years except less snow.
Really??? This has been the worst winter for most of the eastern coast in 10 years. Not only for snow and ice but for freeze thaw. When it starts to thaw out just before post time you are screwed
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Really??? This has been the worst winter for most of the eastern coast in 10 years. Not only for snow and ice but for freeze thaw. When it starts to thaw out just before post time you are screwed
That's because the track can't rid itself of water. Any decent racetrack can handle it. That track has been stripped to its base, that's not the trackman's fault. It's not a farm track where you have to freeze dry and beat the thaw. They can never ready it for winter with a coarse material and ride out the winter. But come on, three weeks? If it's holding that much moisture they should have shut down and tore it up to expose it.
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That's because the track can't rid itself of water. Any decent racetrack can handle it. That track has been stripped to its base, that's not the trackman's fault. It's not a farm track where you have to freeze dry and beat the thaw. They can never ready it for winter with a coarse material and ride out the winter. But come on, three weeks? If it's holding that much moisture they should have shut down and tore it up to expose it.
You have you have a course material to race all winter or it breaks down and turns into mush by spring. Not saying they were not short on material there starting the winter but this winter has been brutal for every trackman. It happens and very few racetracks are set up for a winter like this these days. Northfield races at night which gives them the advantage of catching it as the temperature drops. The other tracks mentioned just started back racing so material isn’t so beat up. Other than the Meadows and Bruce has a big advantage with his material budget over most tracks
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You have you have a course material to race all winter or it breaks down and turns into mush by spring. Not saying they were not short on material there starting the winter but this winter has been brutal for every trackman. It happens and very few racetracks are set up for a winter like this these days. Northfield races at night which gives them the advantage of catching it as the temperature drops. The other tracks mentioned just started back racing so material isn’t so beat up. Other than the Meadows and Bruce has a big advantage with his material budget over most tracks
You have to replace it along the way. As for every track....why only Monticello? Since the day the place started racing year round it's been the same. Never ever this bad. Saratoga goes year round on the main track even not racing it's used and maintained. Not blaming the trackman, I know they don't give him any budget to work with. So now it rained, today another shit show, tonight goes down to 25 then sun and warm tomorrow. What's the over/under on racing?
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You have to replace it along the way. As for every track....why only Monticello? Since the day the place started racing year round it's been the same. Never ever this bad. Saratoga goes year round on the main track even not racing it's used and maintained. Not blaming the trackman, I know they don't give him any budget to work with. So now it rained, today another shit show, tonight goes down to 25 then sun and warm tomorrow. What's the over/under on racing?
When did Saratoga start racing year round?
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You have to replace it along the way. As for every track....why only Monticello? Since the day the place started racing year round it's been the same. Never ever this bad. Saratoga goes year round on the main track even not racing it's used and maintained. Not blaming the trackman, I know they don't give him any budget to work with. So now it rained, today another shit show, tonight goes down to 25 then sun and warm tomorrow. What's the over/under on racing?
How many times has Northfield cancelled this year? How about Western Fair,Flamboro or for that matter Mohawk?
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When did Saratoga start racing year round?
Since the horsemen wanted “winter racing” to race for less purse money and increased opportunity to endanger their barns!!
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Nobody is saying it doesn't happen 'HERE OR THERE' with tracks racing in winter BUT not WEEKS at a time.
No excuse. Powers that be obviously don't give a rat's ass if they race or not.
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Since the horsemen wanted “winter racing” to race for less purse money and increased opportunity to endanger their barns!!
You might want to look at race dates before showing how dumb you are
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First of all, NYS Gaming has to approve it. Secondly, these people can't afford to walk from their barn to the paddock at MR, who's going to pay for the trip to Yonkers? You think the track that couldn't care less if they race would entertain this? The actual issue is the track. They have no material. Nothing even close to what is necessary to correctly rebuild "not repair" the track they have. Ownership is only concerned with who gets a license in NYC, after that nothing good is going to happen. The backstretch at Monticello is absolutely disgusting. The grandstand is closed. They weren't even answering the phones at the race office this morning. And like Trump told Zelensky, the horsemen have no cards in their hand. Where are Faraldo and Schwartz in all this??? You know the horsemen's association who are there to protect and represent them? It's pushing a month and the truth is no those people cannot absorb this.
Damn I thought I was going to respond to someone else that was illiterate so you couldn’t sue me. What does Faraldo have to do with Monti?? You really can’t be that stupid about the industry you trying to save/destroy
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Miami Valley and Dayton race in daytime. 11.wp
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Miami Valley and Dayton race in daytime. 11.wp
And they only race 4 months a year each. Oh and the weather is just a little different in southern Ohio than NY
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My final point will be and believe me, I don't play Monti [garbage] and could care less if they race or even stay open.
BUT they have raced there year round forever. I'm sure this isn't the worst winter ever. I never recall 'EVER' there
being WEEKS missed at a time. And yes it does freeze and thaw in Ohio. 11.wp
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My final point will be and believe me, I don't play Monti [garbage] and could care less if they race or even stay open.
BUT they have raced there year round forever. I'm sure this isn't the worst winter ever. I never recall 'EVER' there
being WEEKS missed at a time. And yes it does freeze and thaw in Ohio. 11.wp
I was there when Ron Saxe went through the snow fence. That's when they brought out the traffic cones to race around. All short term. Even when the grader sunk into the track it was days, not weeks.
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As a public service announcement, here is Tuesday's Monticello update as posted on the USTA website:
Monticello, NY — Once again, due to track conditions, Monticello Raceway has canceled live racing on Tuesday (March 18).
"We now return you to your regular local programming".........
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As a public service announcement, here is Tuesday's Monticello update as posted on the USTA website:
Monticello, NY — Once again, due to track conditions, Monticello Raceway has canceled live racing on Tuesday (March 18).
"We now return you to your regular local programming".........
Last week when I called the race office I was told it’s day to day. Obviously that’s a lie.
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Whether it's greed, money, ineptness, or whatever-----the optics and the reality are simply bad.
It doesn't appear that they don't give a $hit.....the reality is they don't.
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Whether it's greed, money, ineptness, or whatever-----the optics and the reality are simply bad.
It doesn't appear that they don't give a $hit.....the reality is they don't.
Since day 1 of the slots, they did everything they could to get rid of the fans and succeeded.
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I personally think Monticello is doing quite well. I think the Race Secretary has done an amazing job with inferior horses. There are only a handful of tracks that do more business on a daily basis.
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As a public service announcement, please see below for an update from Monticello Raceway, as seen on the USTA website moments ago.
Monticello, NY — Monticello Raceway has canceled live racing Wednesday (March 19) and Thursday (March 20) in order to make the track safe to race on.
Not exactly sure WHEN the track will be safe to race on.... but at least they are being more realistic for the balance of the week.
We now return you to your regular local programming...... .