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Title: med2ndrace
Post by: talkstohisself on March 01, 2025, 07:25:37 PM
why no contest
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Bitter Truth on March 01, 2025, 07:31:52 PM
Off site you really are speculating without any number of complications unseen
when watching at home. I was surprised by it.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: SAW on March 01, 2025, 07:57:44 PM
why no contest

The 5 horse with Braxton Boyd fell just after the start of the race, (interfering with the 7 & 8) the horse and Braxton got up and it appeared no significant injury's? but Braxton is off the rest of his drives.

Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: PineHurstPacer on March 01, 2025, 08:29:40 PM
interesting part is they finished the race .........

then declared no contest

which judge missed the daily double??????????
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Birdfantammy on March 01, 2025, 08:52:20 PM
that was unreal.  Called a no contest after running and completing the entire race!  It's a mile track and horse went down after the start.  This track has become so corrupt it's sad.   What a mess!
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: MCR on March 01, 2025, 08:53:46 PM
Bad call imo.  Only because loose horse was caught and Brax was thankfully up and off the track before horses even finished. 
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on March 01, 2025, 09:04:19 PM
Braxton dazed taken to hospital for observations .

Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: SAW on March 01, 2025, 09:28:06 PM
that was unreal.  Called a no contest after running and completing the entire race!  It's a mile track and horse went down after the start.  This track has become so corrupt it's sad.   What a mess!

While I didn't like the no contest call by the judges........... ..

The decision definitely wasn't "corrupt" no one gains by refunding everyone's money, the track loses money by the refund.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: stanetelman on March 01, 2025, 09:41:57 PM
Fortunately no serious injuries to horse or driver
Should not have been a no contest,  majority of the field was unaffected by the incident.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on March 02, 2025, 01:28:36 AM
While I didn't like the no contest call by the judges........... ..

The decision definitely wasn't "corrupt" no one gains by refunding everyone's money, the track loses money by the refund.

Don't use a fact to cloud or belittle some conspiracy theory of corruption. LOL.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Meadow Ford on March 02, 2025, 09:07:23 AM
I looked up the earnings for the winner, and he was credited with the winners share of the purse.
So at least the horseman got paid.

Correction I looked up the wrong race.
The horse that fell was credited with no money.
Bobcat Bay and Villiam were each credited with $1,500, but I don't know where they finished.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Scooteroo on March 02, 2025, 09:24:43 AM
Do you know if they paid the horse or horses who didn't finish the race since Meadowlands supposedly pays all starters?
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Stan durbread on March 02, 2025, 09:58:05 AM
The USTA chart shows no order of finish. So really no way to know. Generally even in a 5 horse field any horse that is DNF doesn’t get paid. There was a NJSS race a few years ago with 2 horses in it. One was on a break for a long time and the driver pulled it up. The other horse got the whole purse
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Meadow Ford on March 02, 2025, 10:22:40 AM
I looked up the earnings for the winner, and he was credited with the winners share of the purse.
So at least the horseman got paid.

Correction I looked up the wrong race.
The horse that fell was credited with no money.
Bobcat Bay and Villiam were each credited with $1,500, but I don't know where they finished.
I had to correct above post.
Sorry for my mistake.
The purse $10,500 divided by 7 finishers is $1,500
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on March 02, 2025, 01:13:59 PM
The only people who felt like no contest was appropriate were the judges. Spare me with the nobody gained from this bs. I did. All my losing bets were refunded. It was fantastic. Was like stealing money legally. Anyone else who bet and lost the race also gained big time by the decision
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Birdfantammy on March 02, 2025, 01:26:04 PM
out of curiousity...who won that race >  Anyone know what the order of finish was?   I wasn't watching at the time
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Scooteroo on March 02, 2025, 01:26:32 PM
If they were going to declare it a no-contest, it should have been done during the race, not 30 seconds after the race was over.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Scooteroo on March 02, 2025, 01:28:25 PM
If they were going to declare it a no-contest, it should have been done during the race, not 30 seconds after the race was over.

I know Jordan Stratton's horse, #4 Stellar Yankee who was the chalk won the race easily, I know #3 Levine finished 3rd at huge odds, can't remember who finished 2nd.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on March 02, 2025, 01:34:35 PM
If they were going to declare it a no-contest, it should have been done during the race, not 30 seconds after the race was over.

100%.
2 options: race stopped for safety or let the race finish and pay it out

What they did is not an option. They can't be that incompetent right? Its such a incompetent unbelievable decision that anyone sensing corruption is well within their right. Not me personally but I totally get that perception.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Birdfantammy on March 02, 2025, 01:34:56 PM
If they were going to declare it a no-contest, it should have been done during the race, not 30 seconds after the race was over.

EXACTLY!!!!!!
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on March 02, 2025, 01:42:00 PM
The rolled the dice and risked safety but they also didn't pay the race out.

Impossibly bad.

The perception is that they waited to see the result before refunding everything. It's either that or the judges are so completely incompetent that they should never officiate another race. (I believe the latter)

Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: SAW on March 02, 2025, 02:52:54 PM
The rolled the dice and risked safety but they also didn't pay the race out.

Impossibly bad.

The perception is that they waited to see the result before refunding everything. It's either that or the judges are so completely incompetent that they should never officiate another race. (I believe the latter)

That "so called" perception is only held by a few conspiracy nuts and/or people who will complain about anything the Meadowlands does.

It may have been a BAD decision by the JUDGES, but they paid out the purse money & refunded the customers money.... No Corruption..... No Gain for the Meadowlands......

Shit I'll bet if they returned every bettor an extra $10, some of you would still say the fix was in 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2

Just 2 months ago you were complaining about just the opposite when they didnt refund a race.

This is why not declaring race 1 a no contest for betting purposes was ruthlessly unfair to gamblers
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on March 02, 2025, 03:10:17 PM
It is not surprising to me whatsoever that you (and all of your fellow coworkers) have no idea what the difference is between a terribly unsafe track wreaking havoc with a race and what we saw last night. Just total ignorance with regard to everything
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: bumby on March 02, 2025, 04:27:09 PM
I know Jordan Stratton's horse, #4 Stellar Yankee who was the chalk won the race easily, I know #3 Levine finished 3rd at huge odds, can't remember who finished 2nd.

the 6 Pat Ryder's horse was second by about a head.
Title: Re: med2ndrace
Post by: Meadow Ford on March 02, 2025, 10:06:37 PM
The USTA chart shows no order of finish. So really no way to know.
If you are referring to, if the horses got purse money.
A)  You can look  up earnings on Pathway.
B)  In my case I added Bobcat Bay and Villiam to my Trainers Online Entry List. It showed they each earned $1,500.
C)  Save last nights program and compare earnings to their next start.
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