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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Kirbys Ace on September 13, 2024, 01:23:33 PM

Title: Whipping fines
Post by: Kirbys Ace on September 13, 2024, 01:23:33 PM
Over $5300 for last week postings. Obviously, the fines aren't working. What next?

I say take repeat offenders whips away!

 
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Papillon on September 13, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
agree

if they increased the fines substantially or threatened suspension instead of a fine maybe it might help a little bit

they wouldnt be able to get away with taking the whip away
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Kirbys Ace on September 13, 2024, 01:34:30 PM
agree

if they increased the fines substantially or threatened suspension instead of a fine maybe it might help a little bit

they wouldnt be able to get away with taking the whip away

Give them a feather duster instead!  73cv.2
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: old guy on September 13, 2024, 02:11:03 PM
Give them a feather duster instead!  73cv.2

Fifty years ago Milt Taylor at Liberty Bell took the whips away and replaced them with riding crops like the jockeys use. That didn’t last long. Yonkers tried it too.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Kirbys Ace on September 13, 2024, 02:23:25 PM
I don't understand why whips with a cracker is mandatory. There's no upside to beating an animal with a cracker! It's the cracker that does the damage.  11.wp
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Jazzman on September 13, 2024, 02:53:58 PM
nothing worse than watching a driver give my horse a couple of taps then lose the photo drive to the wire lachance parker ouellet thats the way i want mine drove
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: halfinhalfout on September 13, 2024, 04:17:12 PM
And when Milt Taylor gave them all jockey bats, during one heated stretch drive Vern Crank reached up to reef one and missed and almost fell out of the bike, so he tossed the bat into the infield...LMAO
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Mazola on September 13, 2024, 05:24:46 PM
nothing worse than watching a driver give my horse a couple of taps then lose the photo drive to the wire lachance parker ouellet thats the way i want mine drove

Agree but if none of them have whips, its fair.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Papillon on September 13, 2024, 05:36:15 PM
And when Milt Taylor gave them all jockey bats, during one heated stretch drive Vern Crank reached up to reef one and missed and almost fell out of the bike, so he tossed the bat into the infield...LMAO

Vernon Crank drove a local(Liberty Bell/Brandywine) Invitational horse named Town Drunk in the late 70s

a few years later he was run over by a drunk driver while walking his dog
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: JL52 on September 13, 2024, 05:54:08 PM
And is it true, or apocryphal, that Brandywine announcer Roy Shudt, referred to Crank during a post parade, as The Town Drunk?
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Parked on September 13, 2024, 05:54:54 PM
Fines mean little to most drivers.  They knock the hell out of a horse and the fine is often less than their commission.  Remember TDS getting pounded 2 starts in a row at Lexington ? The fine was a pittance of what the 5% was and probably the owners picked that up. 
One day the SPCA will have a person at the draw gate handing out cruelty to animal citations.   
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Papillon on September 13, 2024, 06:31:53 PM
And is it true, or apocryphal, that Brandywine announcer Roy Shudt, referred to Crank during a post parade, as The Town Drunk?

i have heard that rumor
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: White Rabbit on September 14, 2024, 09:36:11 AM
Non deterrent fines. Just listen to Anthony McDonald s podcast, he slots 6000 a month for whipping fines. These fines in PA , Ohio are like the fines NFL players get. In contrast to what the make the fines are just a write off
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: sledge hammer on September 14, 2024, 01:05:43 PM
Non deterrent fines. Just listen to Anthony McDonald s podcast, he slots 6000 a month for whipping fines. These fines in PA , Ohio are like the fines NFL players get. In contrast to what the make the fines are just a write off
I'm sure he bills the Stable owners anyway, zero out of pocket.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 14, 2024, 03:37:26 PM
I'm sure he bills the Stable owners anyway, zero out of pocket.
How the fuck would you know what he does and does not bill
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 03:43:53 PM
How the fuck would you know what he does and does not bill

Here we go again---people post and people respond.

The only difference (yet again) is that some here have to be rude, crude, and nasty about it here!

SAD BUT TRUE!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 14, 2024, 03:52:03 PM
Here we go again---people post and people respond.

The only difference (yet again) is that some here have to be rude, crude, and nasty about it here!

SAD BUT TRUE!
BooHoo. Time for another tampon retard.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 03:54:41 PM
BooHoo. Time for another tampon retard.

GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY,

AGAIN, PLEASE take a good look in the mirror again on this!

Thanks for playing!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 14, 2024, 03:58:26 PM
GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY,

AGAIN, PLEASE take a good look in the mirror again on this!

Thanks for playing!
How about we have a vote on plop jerkoff. We get the admin to sponsor a vote off. Me against you. Loser gets banned from Horseplop for life. Are you in dickbreath?
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 04:04:19 PM
How about we have a vote on plop jerkoff. We get the admin to sponsor a vote off. Me against you. Loser gets banned from Horseplop for life. Are you in dickbreath?

GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY,

NO!!!  STRAIGHT AND TO THE POINT!  NICE TRY!

Thanks for playing yet again!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 14, 2024, 04:06:52 PM
GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY,

NO!!!  STRAIGHT AND TO THE POINT!  NICE TRY!

Thanks for playing yet again!
Like I said for months now. You are nothing but a big PUSSY!!!!
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Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 04:07:31 PM
How about we have a vote on plop jerkoff. We get the admin to sponsor a vote off. Me against you. Loser gets banned from Horseplop for life. Are you in dickbreath?

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN LIL MIKEY,

Frustrated again!  You deserve this by your actions and comments!

Just more horseplop "BULLYNG" because you don't like me!  The better part of this is that you cause your own problems and cannot stop me from being here!  SAD BUT TRUE!

Thanks for playing again!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 04:10:22 PM
Like I said for months now. You are nothing but a big PUSSY!!!!
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GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY.

Your actions and comments here only show who the 'REAL' "PUSSY" is here!  ALL TALK AND NO ACTION!

The 'TRUTH' HURTS DOESN'T IT LIL MIKEY!

Thanks for playing!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 14, 2024, 04:11:37 PM
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN LIL MIKEY,

Frustrated again!  You deserve this by your actions and comments!

Just more horseplop "BULLYNG" because you don't like me!  The better part of this is that you cause your own problems and cannot stop me from being here!  SAD BUT TRUE!

Thanks for playing again!
If I am half the things you say I am, you should win in a landslide. Come on chicken shit. Let's have a vote off. Loser is banned for life on Horseplop.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 14, 2024, 04:13:22 PM
GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY.

Your actions and comments here only show who the 'REAL' "PUSSY" is here!  ALL TALK AND NO ACTION!

The 'TRUTH' HURTS DOESN'T IT LIL MIKEY!

Thanks for playing!
What do you mean? No action? I'm challenging you to a vote off. The only one saying No is YOU!!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 04:13:46 PM
If I am half the things you say I am, you should win in a landslide. Come on chicken shit. Let's have a vote off. Loser is banned for life on Horseplop.

GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY.

NOT INTERESTED!

Thanks for playing again!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 04:14:45 PM
What do you mean? No action? I'm challenging you to a vote off. The only one saying No is YOU!!

GOOD AFTERNOON LIL MIKEY.

I'LL SAY IT AGAIN---NOT INTERESTED!

Thanks for playing!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 04:17:10 PM
If I am half the things you say I am, you should win in a landslide. Come on chicken shit. Let's have a vote off. Loser is banned for life on Horseplop.

GOOD AFTERNOON LIL LIKEY,

You are the one saying things about yourself here, not me!  Please don't forget this important fact!

YOUR MOVE LIL MIKEY!

Thanks for playing!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Kirbys Ace on September 14, 2024, 05:56:46 PM
Thanks for fucking derailing my thread!

 11.dt

Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Horseshoe on September 14, 2024, 06:11:01 PM
Build a ring and throw these two in and see who wins.
Site supposed to be about harness racing.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 06:19:22 PM
Build a ring and throw these two in and see who wins.
Site supposed to be about harness racing.

I agree!!

When some people make a legitimate post, others go off because they don’t like what is posted. Look at some of the lewd and crude comments that are made. So easy to see!!

Admin has posted this in the past and so have I. I won’t let LIL MIKEY “BULLY” me!  It’s not my fault that MIKEY doesn’t comprehend well and has personal problems in his life!!

Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: bello on September 14, 2024, 06:27:39 PM
Going back to AMAC. I have seen him carve horses to welts at Northfield. No fines from the Northfield judges.

To Amac,Northfield judges and stable owners. I have a list of the abuse at Northfield.

You are all on notice, including owners who condone this, I will report the abuses to Peta to review the abusive whipping,

I don't want to but it has to stop and I mean it. Just one phone call and all the video evidence is there for the reviewing.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 06:35:15 PM
Going back to AMAC. I have seen him carve horses to welts at Northfield. No fines from the Northfield judges.

To Amac,Northfield judges and stable owners. I have a list of the abuse at Northfield.

You are all on notice, including owners who condone this, I will report the abuses to Peta to review the abusive whipping,

I don't want to but it has to stop and I mean it. Just one phone call and all the video evidence is there for the reviewing.

For right/wrong/good/bad whether you have judges in the real world, judges is racing, and officials in sports , there will always be bias. Even if everyone can see the opposite. Welcome to the world we live in 2024!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: bello on September 14, 2024, 06:42:40 PM
For right/wrong/good/bad whether you have judges in the real world, judges is racing, and officials in sports , there will always be bias. Even if everyone can see the opposite. Welcome to the world we live in 2024!

When I let these videos out, the judges will be toast. I will let the judges at Northfield know prior to me action If I dont see serious fines.  This is also a warning to the stable owners.

Peta trumps them all. I want to see them sweat
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: SwankToliverA on September 14, 2024, 07:11:29 PM
When I let these videos out, the judges will be toast. I will let the judges at Northfield know prior to me action If I dont see serious fines.  This is also a warning to the stable owners.

Peta trumps them all. I want to see them sweat

Have you contacted the Judges, to inquire about any of the issues you've seen, where they've seemingly ignored it?

Not Northfield, but I have at a different track, and ended up having to contact that States Gaming Commission.

It's one thing to use the whip appropriately, and a completely other thing to carve and slash away.

Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on September 14, 2024, 07:38:55 PM
Here we go again---people post and people respond.

The only difference (yet again) is that some here have to be rude, crude, and nasty about it here!

SAD BUT TRUE!
My post WAS about the topic. Yours wasn't. You're the one who trolled and wrecked the thread once again. My response was to Sledgehammer. If he didn't like my post, he can respond. Instead, you once again stuck your nose where it didn't belong. Mind your own fucking business retard. Not every post is directed to you.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: rainman2 on September 14, 2024, 07:44:44 PM
My post WAS about the topic. Yours wasn't. You're the one who trolled and wrecked the thread once again. My response was to Sledgehammer. If he didn't like my post, he can respond. Instead, you once again stuck your nose where it didn't belong. Mind your own fucking business retard. Not every post is directed to you.

GOOD EVENING LIL MIKEY,

If I have a significant interest in the post, I will respond whether you do or not!

If you can't handle this, it is a problem on your end!

Speaking of retards----please look in the mirror yet again!

I see the name calling continues--SO SAD!!

Thank you for your concerns!
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: bello on September 14, 2024, 07:46:16 PM
Have you contacted the Judges, to inquire about any of the issues you've seen, where they've seemingly ignored it?

Not Northfield, but I have at a different track, and ended up having to contact that States Gaming Commission.

It's one thing to use the whip appropriately, and a completely other thing to carve and slash away.

I have contacted judges. Most recent meadows regarding Amac.  I am reluctant to contact judges until I become fed up and have visual evidence.
Title: Re: Whipping fines
Post by: Any1Left on September 15, 2024, 08:45:05 AM
Bello,,,,,,,,,,I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY SHERIFF IN A TOWN THAT DOES NOT CARE,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am finding it difficult to post due to health reasons but i had to respond as i was sure that after your post their would be no reply as i read nothing that ever shows me that anyone really cares and i am not sure if a horse is not better off dead after drug abuse and whip torture as we know horses are put down so they wont be tormented by pain,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, When i see a horse going to the kill pen i feel it by looking at their eyes moments before death that the fear that i wish on nobody,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, When i was a kid RON WAPLES had a horse called ROAN BARRON who was a FFA HOrse for years and in later life he was a claimer and RON WAPLES believed that horses loved to run and at 14 years old in late december RON WAPLES went to ORANGEVILLE racetrack to claim this horse and bring him back to ROCKWOOD to live happy for the rest of his life and that really touched me as that was the fairy tale ending most want to see but as the years went by i never really see much good to talk about in this game,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Bello i know that if AMAC reads this he will not say to himself that he was wrong and would dislike you,,,,,,,,,,,
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