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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Kirbys Ace on August 21, 2024, 07:24:33 PM
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Trying to figure what's the upside of not making race programs available for free on a track's website? 75% or better now involve online betters why not cater to their needs? I'm sure theirs a reason I just cant find it.
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Trying to figure what's the upside of not making race programs available for free on a track's website? 75% or better now involve online betters why not cater to their needs? I'm sure theirs a reason I just cant find it.
It is not free for the track. The USTA charges the track if they post PP's. The USTA claims that they own the information. I remember years ago, Pompano would post their PP's and the USTA stopped them unless they paid the piper.
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regardless it seems penny wise and pound foolish
i assume free programs would encourage more betting
there are many examples of harness racing shooting itself in the foot
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regardless it seems penny wise and pound foolish
i assume free programs would encourage more betting
there are many examples of harness racing shooting itself in the foot
FYI,
cloverleafsoa.org
Cloverleaf Standardbred Owners' Association Inc [Rosecroft Raceway/Ocean Downs
Plainridge Park has them on their website.
I'm pretty sure it is a track by track too.
The same is true for the horsemen's associations.
You just have to search it out.
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FYI,
cloverleafsoa.org
Cloverleaf Standardbred Owners' Association Inc [Rosecroft Raceway/Ocean Downs
Plainridge Park has them on their website.
I'm pretty sure it is a track by track too.
The same is true for the horsemen's associations.
You just have to search it out.
And how would a better know that if there's no link posted on Ocean Downs website?
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And how would a better know that if there's no link posted on Ocean Downs website?
The average bettor won't know!
I found out because I checked it out and am in the business.
Sorry, Ocean Downs and Rosecroft Raceway have this on their respective websites!
FYI, there are industry links on the Rosecroft Raceway website!
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I found it! Buried on the Cloverleaf link!
Thank you.
Now only problem is it has not been updated since 8/15. So, no pages for tonight and tomorrow.
But that's Cloverleaf doing things half azz!
tmbz1
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I found it! Buried on the Cloverleaf link!
Thank you.
Now only problem is it has not been updated since 8/15. So, no pages for tonight and tomorrow.
But that's Cloverleaf doing things half azz!
tmbz1
This is old but it shows how pathetic the USTA is about giving away its PP's. They always have their hand out.
https://harnessracingupdate.com/2017/02/24/lines-time-make-electronic-past-performances-free/
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all canadian tracks have free programs
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Trying to figure what's the upside of not making race programs available for free on a track's website? 75% or better now involve online betters why not cater to their needs? I'm sure theirs a reason I just cant find it.
The USTA needs the revenue:
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/314370196/202323189349310682/full
Scroll to page 9 about 2/3 down the page.
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When GARY SEIDEL said one saturday that he was a member of the USTA I WENT INTO SHOCK as how can someone who is as dumb as that be head of anything,,,,,,He seems like he is a ok guy but he turned his show into a joke and he promoted the game like dont bet more than 6 dollars to a win 4 and be happy getting back 10 and do you think he knows that people will bet if they get a free program,,,,,,,, I really believe that he thinks everyone who plays knows that they will lose and the game is a game of total luck and i think guys like him believe the BURKE type trainers are hay and oats,,,,,, THE USTA IS one place i made around 20 calls to over the years and always came away in shock,,,,,,,
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Saratoga harness has theirs online.
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The USTA needs the revenue:
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/314370196/202323189349310682/full
Scroll to page 9 about 2/3 down the page.
The salaries of the top people at the USTA are out of line for a nonprofit of their size and there benefit are also higher than they should be.
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The CEO of Woodbine makes over 750k a year.
Also not for profit lol.
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The CEO of Woodbine makes over 750k a year.
Also not for profit lol.
Can you post the source of this information. I don't know where to look for information about nonprofits in Canada.
WEG is much larger that the USTA. Salaries of top executives usually relate to size. The CEO of a $10 million nonprofit would be expected to be around $150,000.
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Can you post the source of this information. I don't know where to look for information about nonprofits in Canada.
WEG is much larger that the USTA. Salaries of top executives usually relate to size. The CEO of a $10 million nonprofit would be expected to be around $150,000.
While we are on this subject--does anyone know what Jim Mango's salary at Buffalo Raceway? Can someone verify that Buffalo Raceway is owned by the Erie County Agricultural Society--a non-profit also?
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While we are on this subject--does anyone know what Jim Mango's salary at Buffalo Raceway? Can someone verify that Buffalo Raceway is owned by the Erie County Agricultural Society--a non-profit also?
https://www.gaming.ny.gov/pdf/Racetrack%20Ownership%20Nov%202021%20update.pdf
7.3 Buffalo Trotting Association. The Corporation has acquired all of the voting and non-voting stock of the Buffalo Trotting Association, Inc. (BTA) and as a subsidiary organization it shall be governed as follows:
(a)BTA is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Erie County Agricultural Society, the Corporation being the sole shareholder thereof.
(b)BTA shall be controlled according to the direction of the Corporation (by unified action of its Board of Directors) and by these By- Laws of the Corporation.
(c)The Board of Directors of the Corporation shall elect individuals to serve on the Board of Directors of BTA.
(d)Five (5) Directors shall be elected to serve on the BTA Board, three (3) of whom must be Directors or Officers of the Board of Directors of the Erie County Agricultural Society. Such Directors shall serve staggered three (3) year terms, all as set forth in the By- Laws of BTA
(e)The Board of Directors of the Corporation shall direct the redrafting of the Bylaws of BTA and adopt the revised By-Laws as appropriate, and amend or alter such Bylaws as required from time to time all at a special meeting of the Board of Directors and requiring a majority vote of the Board present at such special meeting.
(f)Special meetings required or desired by the sole shareholder (the Erie County Agricultural Society) shall be held at the Corporation’s offices and shall be preceded by a special meeting of the Board of Directors of the Corporation called for such purpose, whereat, after full presentation and discussion of all matters involving shareholder action, the Board (of the Corporation) shall vote on such proposals, and upon majority vote shall instruct the Chairman of the Board (Corporation) to cast one (1) vote as the unified decision of the Corporation relative to such matters coming before the meeting. The individual Board members of the Corporation shall not cast individual ballots as shareholders of BTA, but shall vote as one, the Board of the parent Corporation.
(g)The Board of Directors shall have the right to remove or replace any BTA Director at any time.
(h)The regular annual meeting of BTA shall be held at the corporate offices on the second Wednesday in April at 12:00 noon, unless hereafter changed by Board motion.
https://www.ecfair.org/p/info/about-the-fair/erie-county-agricultural-society-by-laws
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Woodbine offers free programs in their site. I have always thought it was a great idea.