HORSEPLOP.COM
General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: MOHAWK FREAK on July 02, 2024, 10:40:48 AM
-
The biggest bull shit that is going on right now in harness racing is that open tote. Everyone I speak to says it’s at the Red Mile. How do you get someone to look into this? I am so sick and tired of a horses odds PLUMMETING 10 seconds after the windows “close”. They say it’s just the money coming in from the OTBs. I call major BULLSHIT. So the OTB money coming in is ALWAYS correct on who’s leaving?? or who made a break? Some one really has to do something.
-
I am still confused what "Open Tote" is. Anyone who is betting simulcast on site at the Red Mile is able to get their bets in after the race starts?
-
The biggest bull shit that is going on right now in harness racing is that open tote. Everyone I speak to says it’s at the Red Mile. How do you get someone to look into this? I am so sick and tired of a horses odds PLUMMETING 10 seconds after the windows “close”. They say it’s just the money coming in from the OTBs. I call major BULLSHIT. So the OTB money coming in is ALWAYS correct on who’s leaving?? or who made a break? Some one really has to do something.
the bettors at the Lexington hub are allowed to bet after the race starts
plain and simple
-
And if your 8/5 leaves the gate hard it goes from 8/5 to 3/5. Lately they even drop to 1/5. At woodbine you can hear the frustration in the announcers voice too as he calls the “late money” and their new odds from before the race. Line up exactas get hit also.
-
I am still confused what "Open Tote" is. Anyone who is betting simulcast on site at the Red Mile is able to get their bets in after the race starts?
100% correct. The tote machine is not going off for up to 20 seconds after the race starts. It’sa huge advantage. Every leaver drops in odds EVERY FUCKIN TIME. It’s very noticeable at Woodbine. You can have two horses 2-1. After the start one of them will drop to 6/5 or even 3/5 and it’s ALWAYS the leader and ALWAYS correct. I have never seen one hit late and get off the gate bad. Ever.
-
Happens the Meds also
-
how can they know and bet the winners down late and mostly be right,seem the leavers alwalys get bet
-
Special teller(s) and a team who uses modern technology to inform the bettor(s) who is leaving?? I guess.
-
the bettors at the Lexington hub are allowed to bet after the race starts
plain and simple
Please post real evidence of this, plain and simple. Have heard all the whining and crying about it but never any hardcore physical evidence. Will be waiting.
-
Please post real evidence of this, plain and simple. Have heard all the whining and crying about it but never any hardcore physical evidence. Will be waiting.
There is no evidence to post PERIOD because IT IS NOT TRUE!
There is no way Casino owned by the RED MILE @ KEENLAND would risk the license to print money with their slot machines, on the so-called payment of $2000 per week that has been rumored by some posters on here.
Its just plain SILLY, STOP IT.ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
-
how can they know and bet the winners down late and mostly be right,seem the leavers alwalys get bet
it's the so called 'guess right" the majority of time that makes it fishy that someone has open access.
Or the horse that breaks just off the gate and goes from favorite and money that gets cancelled.....
Would it really be that difficult to have a program that can leak in late money ? A group did it on the second biggest race cards --- caught and jailed doing at the Breeders Cup for runners hitting the pick 6.... Of course they got greedy and had multiple winning tickets....
-
Special teller(s) and a team who uses modern technology to inform the bettor(s) who is leaving?? I guess.
Modern technology. ? You bet, they call it cell phones.
-
Not buying the Lexington hub....thenl way to stop this is for betting to stop 30 seconds before the start.
-
1) Install a "fair start" pole at every race track
2) Do away with the idiotic fair start rule in Canada
3) Close all betting when the horses reach said fair start pole.
-
Travesty that started out East . Ruins betting no matter what the handle is .
-
I cant believe this took so long to be a topic and i also can not believe this topic does not have 10 pages of .comments ......... I also understand that very few gamblers post here,,,,,,,,, Is everyone blind to the fact that WEG has no LAW AND NO RULES that are followed....... holes given up all day by every driver that drives there and no one in the place gives a crap..... Freak is right about the RED MILE but that was the past and covered up........I know that most huge winning tickets are showing up at Oregon ADW ,,,,,,,, DANA PARHAM and most other groups that killed racing in the past are now gone and been replaced by ELITE TURF CLUB AND THEY are making HUGE PROFITS and after speaking to most high profile people in the industry they believe that ELITE TURF CLUB that has access to see every bet been made is good for the game and its simple, Just follow the money trail and its them who are cleaning up,,,,,,,,I also realize that this is a horsemans site and truth is they could not care and TRUTH BE TOLD THEY BELIEVE that slot money will never run out and life will go on,,,,,,How can you clean up this industry when the people that get paid to clean it up are JUDGES that were the problems as horse people and race office people that were drug users and pre game show people that drove that for drug cheats,,,,,,,,Most of standardrbred ,CA people are horse people and owners using high percentage trainers,,,Drivers are just workers and not the boss but in this industry the drivers are MOB bosses and follow no rules...... eLITE TURF CLUB thats the big problem