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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Rdp066 on June 14, 2024, 02:22:10 PM
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I just received the word that the Sports Book at Freehold Raceway will officially close on August 23rd. I hope that the racing ceases as well and the land gets sold for condos or another shopping center. Far too many dirtbags hanging out there waiting for their own funerals in my opinion. Total POS's that I wish would consider suicide and rid the earth of their scum.
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Anther jerk who hates racing.
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I just received the word that the Sports Book at Freehold Raceway will officially close on August 23rd. I hope that the racing ceases as well and the land gets sold for condos or another shopping center. Far too many dirtbags hanging out there waiting for their own funerals in my opinion. Total POS's that I wish would consider suicide and rid the earth of their scum.
Freehold's purses are subsidized by the state of New Jersey-not the sportsbook
it appears the owners--Pennwood--aka Penn National and Parx-didnt want to pay the licensing fee to the state
who goes to a sportsbook when there are a dozen or more options to open an account on your phone?
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Where will the bums hang out? They need to be in the air conditioning this time of year.
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We here out here that out east has a few tracks struggling. What’s up with both freehold and Chester ? Freehold hasn’t had a good handle in a dogs age . Racing horrible quality. Track conditions suspect . Rumors probably true . Chester no handle either and another with a bad racing surface. Looks bad
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Harrah's Philly purses suck too. That casino does business yet the purses never go up. The horsemen are demanding their fair share of the welfare! Cue the resident know it all! ngc3
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Harrah's Philly purses suck too. That casino does business yet the purses never go up. The horsemen are demanding their fair share of the welfare! Cue the resident know it all! ngc3
All the gambling organizations want the horsemen to voluntarily leave on their own. This way the organizations don’t have to waste time, effort and money and have a leg to stand on legally if this happens!!
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Well it looks like out East Freehold is done . Where will they go with such cheap dog shit ?
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North to Vernon or some could race in bottom level at M1 it's gotten so cheap there. Possibly Ocean Downs too.
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Harrah's Philly purses suck too. That casino does business yet the purses never go up. The horsemen are demanding their fair share of the welfare! Cue the resident know it all! ngc3
Sadly a lot of days the racing handles more than casino at Chester. The place is a shit hole
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Well it looks like out East Freehold is done . Where will they go with such cheap dog shit ?
Sorry Sir...racing isnt impacted by the sportsbook
Freehold not going anywhere unless NJ says so.
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That’s a private business I believe and I don’t think the state can mandate anything.
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That’s a private business I believe and I don’t think the state can mandate anything.
duh--the state subsidizes the purses
if they stop that-then it closes
so NJ does have the final say
if Pennwood could have closed the place-it would have happened years ago
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Guess the party is over . No handle no Sportsbook no subsidy this year. Done
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Guess the party is over . No handle no Sportsbook no subsidy this year. Done
What makes you believe the subsidy will end anytime soon.?
Freehold and M1 subsidies are legislated in the same package
so if freehold's subsidy ends-so does M1
its a package deal
not sure how much more i can dumb this down for you
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You guys out East make your own rules as you go . Let’s see if they open . Maybe they will and race for a hotdog and a coke
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Sandals will save Freehold in a few years. He will able to fill the cards and bring in enough bettors to make it profitable again!
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Sandals will save Freehold in a few years. He will able to fill the cards and bring in enough bettors to make it profitable again!
Yeah, bettors want juiced up 1-5 shots in every race. Profitable....too funny.
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Called a friend out East who said he had a guy go to freehold today to bet simulcast and says there are posters on a bunch of doors stating closing of the Race book permanently. No mention about the track reopening or if there are further cuts . Just Racebook to be closed permanently. That’s a first figured racing would go before sports betting
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Anther jerk who hates racing.
We don’t hate racing, we hate the juicers like Oakes and Surick who ruined the sport.
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When a sports book has to close you know you are in deep water. A glut of sports betting right now and the cell phone makes it far too easy. Minus Jersey subsidy, racing is dead a long time ago.
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ngc3
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What casino owns Freehold out east ? What Sportsbook is closing shop there ?
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What casino owns Freehold out east ? What Sportsbook is closing shop there ?
You are an idiot
NO casino owns Freehold-its owned by Pennwood
The sportsbook is run by Parx-and then dont want to pay the licensing fee
any more stupid questions?
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Out here most tracks are owned by casinos now . I assume Chester , pocono and Yonkers are all casino owned correct ? Freehold should have went that route maybe they wouldn’t be closing up if they had .
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Out here most tracks are owned by casinos now . I assume Chester , pocono and Yonkers are all casino owned correct ? Freehold should have went that route maybe they wouldn’t be closing up if they had .
Freehold isnt closing--what part of that dont you understand?
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Good news, the 15 people who watch the races can get their tables back. ngc3
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You are an idiot
NO casino owns Freehold-its owned by Pennwood
The sportsbook is run by Parx-and then dont want to pay the licensing fee
any more stupid questions?
Penwood is Parx and Penn National. Both are more casino companies than racing
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Sorry. Parx is Greenwood Gaming so 2 casino companies own Freehold
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Sorry.
Pennwood is a separate subsidiary created to share Freehold racing
50% Penn National 50% Greenwood-yes they are casino operators
thats why they are closing the sportsbook-they dont want to pay the hefty licensing fee and why they opened late
they are hoping for a casino at freehold but i doubt any casinos will be allowed outside Atlantic City anytime soon
ask Gural how that worked out for him
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So they stay open there average purse was 4000 now it will be 2500?? With the subsidy since obviously there handle is non existent. If it honestly closed are there really that many dead broke horsemen out East ?
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The purses didn’t go up when they opened the sports book I doubt they will go down when they close it. Not sure how they couldn’t make money with the book. That is a license to print money
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The purses didn’t go up when they opened the sports book I doubt they will go down when they close it. Not sure how they couldn’t make money with the book. That is a license to print money
They didnt lose money on the sportsbook wagering--but they are required to pay a large annual licensing fee to NJ to have the book. I cant imagine their is much betting when everyone has a dozen options/apps on their phone to make bets.
the purses wont be affected. They open 23Aug and will race Fridays and Saturdays till the end of the year, adding 6 thursdays-4 in September and 2 in October. The purse money has already been legislated and allocated to both M1 and freehold through the end of the year.
every year the state budget is another story-how much to give racing is part of that. They are pushing for historical racing machines like Kentucky but i doubt that happens.
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They waited forever to get the Sports betting. You must strike when something is hot.
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Papillon sounds like a live or die freehold guy . Hope it stays open for him .
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Papillon sounds like a live or die freehold guy . Hope it stays open for him .
i was in my college years in the mid 80s after the fire when they had big yellow tents serving as a grandstand
also played everyday from 2007-2010 until the betting after the bell ruined it for me
i could care less now--but it Americas oldest track-harness or Tbred
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i was in my college years in the mid 80s after the fire when they had big yellow tents serving as a grandstand
also played everyday from 2007-2010 until the betting after the bell ruined it for me
i could care less now--but it Americas oldest track-harness or Tbred
Oldest pari-mutuel track. Goshen Historic Track is the oldest operating track.
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They didnt lose money on the sportsbook wagering--but they are required to pay a large annual licensing fee to NJ to have the book. I cant imagine their is much betting when everyone has a dozen options/apps on their phone to make bets.
the purses wont be affected. They open 23Aug and will race Fridays and Saturdays till the end of the year, adding 6 thursdays-4 in September and 2 in October. The purse money has already been legislated and allocated to both M1 and freehold through the end of the year.
every year the state budget is another story-how much to give racing is part of that. They are pushing for historical racing machines like Kentucky but i doubt that happens.
Who would care how much licensing fee was if you were making good money.
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Here, so you people have actual numbers for once. I know, goes against Horseplop tradition to have facts.
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I just received the word that the Sports Book at Freehold Raceway will officially close on August 23rd. I hope that the racing ceases as well and the land gets sold for condos or another shopping center. Far too many dirtbags hanging out there waiting for their own funerals in my opinion. Total POS's that I wish would consider suicide and rid the earth of their scum.
You don't have to sit with those 15 other people there. The place is not huge but there is plenty of room for 16 people there. Sit in the stands with a program and bet on your phone if you cannot stand the clientele or the one teller who is nasty also.
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That place honestly only has a handful of customers?? No wonder y’all why it’s closing down. Damn dog
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That one teller is a POS. He was there when Codey and Daryl were there. He would take Daryl's bets after Codey allowed him to cash rubber checks to the tune of almost $400,000 over a period of time. Never saw a day in jail for it but Codey lost everything. That teller is one notorious scumbag and always has been.
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Someone post that that tellers name . Someone private DM and said his name was Duke ?? None other than John Wayne ?
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I believe his first name is Bob. He works the dining room on Saturday. He has white hair, about 5'7" in height and about 75 years old.
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My friend out East says there’s nothing in any paper or even talk among horse people that anything negative is happening at Freehold .
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My friend out East says there’s nothing in any paper or even talk among horse people that anything negative is happening at Freehold .
thats because nothing is affected
ding dong
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This classic track still has lots to like so for anyone hating on the place you should rethink why. Great suburban safe location with a nice restaurant open each racing day that has good food and staff. The grandstand is old but is spacious with plenty of seating and a great view of the oval.
Parking is close and free. Great outdoor apron along with concessions for beer and stadium type food and drink. Good announcers.
Monti is an absolute mess and offers nothing even close to places like Freehold who I think does their best to operate the place on what I would assume is a very limited budget.
Oldie but goodie in my view.
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Will be better when retail Sportsbook leaves. Back to just a core group of nice folks enjoying respectable daytime harness racing.
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It will go back to seeing the same low life, POS there every fucking day and night. The sickest guy there is a dirtbag named Kevin who walks around picking up tickets in garbage cans, the floor, etc. and tries to find a winner after he loses his paycheck week after week. The management takes a blind eye to his practice since they are desperate for bodies and ignore the fact that he jams the machines and then walks away fast. A complete POS which Freehold management welcomes.
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It will go back to seeing the same low life, POS there every fucking day and night. The sickest guy there is a dirtbag named Kevin who walks around picking up tickets in garbage cans, the floor, etc. and tries to find a winner after he loses his paycheck week after week. The management takes a blind eye to his practice since they are desperate for bodies and ignore the fact that he jams the machines and then walks away fast. A complete POS which Freehold management welcomes.
Don’t be an idiot that has been going on for years. At least it ain’t a poor teller running all the worthless tickets while looking at an actual better in line that might get shut out
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What the hell is going on out there ?? Sounds like a bunch of degenerates and a broke Sportsbook. What’s to like ? A teller who was involved in a scam ? Sounds like a wonderful place
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What the hell is going on out there ?? Sounds like a bunch of degenerates and a broke Sportsbook. What’s to like ? A teller who was involved in a scam ? Sounds like a wonderful place
The sportsbook started out banning anyone and everyone who cashed a few tickets. They thought everone making winning bets were pros. Great business plan. Entire place also smells of urine
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How can shit like this go on at a Sportsbook / racetrack ? Obviously run by the inmate’s situation. Freehold sounds absolutely dreadful
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I was there in the fall and had a great time there. Easy parking accross the street. Staff folks wearing "Parc" shirts and ID's were very nice. The Sports book was pretty crowded, and there were a couple of dozen on the track apron studying their programs. My wife and I sat in the restaurant and did some people watching. I'm saddened to hear the the Sports book is leaving. It will have a definite effect on the horse betting there. I noticed that the same folks that were betting way to much money on college basketball were throwing a few bucks on the races. The races were still exciting and a great view. Even from the rail. I hope Freehold survives. It would be a shame if it closed.
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Well it looks like out East Freehold is done . Where will they go with such cheap dog shit ?
New Jersey’s horse racing industry will receive a $20 million appropriation for purses as part of the state’s fiscal year 2025 budget signed recently by Gov. Phil Murphy. The appropriation will be divided equally between Standardbreds and Thoroughbreds. Funds allocated for Standardbred racing include money for overnight purses at the Meadowlands and Freehold, as well as for the New Jersey Sire Stakes and breeder awards. The state first introduced the purse appropriations in 2019. The initial legislation covered a five-year period, totaling $100 million, through 2023. The state renewed the funding for 2024. Last week, the state Senate and Assembly both approved legislation that would extend the appropriation annually through fiscal year 2029. That bill, which passed 76-0 in the Assembly and 40-0 in the Senate, has been sent to the governor for his signature.
hey you dope--i said the sportsbook has nothing to with freehold purses--and here it is
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Well it looks like out East you will continue to have your 2 day a week racing . Average purse with handouts and subsidies looks like 4k . Hard to say anyone is close to breaking even racing there . The handles so low they don’t even post it . Glad to see you have somewhere to go twice a week .
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Well it looks like out East you will continue to have your 2 day a week racing . Average purse with handouts and subsidies looks like 4k . Hard to say anyone is close to breaking even racing there . The handles so low they don’t even post it . Glad to see you have somewhere to go twice a week .
the point is...the sportsbook has absolutely nothing to do with purses--even though you insisted several times that it does
stay in your lane and stop commenting on issues you know nothing about--like NJ horse racing 73cv.2
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the point is...the sportsbook has absolutely nothing to do with purses--even though you insisted several times that it does
stay in your lane and stop commenting on issues you know nothing about--like NJ horse racing 73cv.2
It does, but they never got it. End of last year the bulletin went out that 20k a month from the sportsbook would go to the purse account. Horsemen have been asking since the start why no formal agreement was made between Freehold and the SBOANJ. At this point it's irrelevant. Coincidence it's being closed just before the meets starts up again.
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It does, but they never got it. End of last year the bulletin went out that 20k a month from the sportsbook would go to the purse account. Horsemen have been asking since the start why no formal agreement was made between Freehold and the SBOANJ. At this point it's irrelevant. Coincidence it's being closed just before the meets starts up again.
Bulletins, promises and handshakes mean nothing
the sportsbook has no affect on freehold purses like i said many times
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Bottom line it’s in a very wealthy area and has some of the lowest purses in the country. Let’s be honest it’s like our fair racing out here .
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Bottom line it’s in a very wealthy area and has some of the lowest purses in the country. Let’s be honest it’s like our fair racing out here .
the quality of the horses is equivalent to Cumberland/Bangor--which is very sad
handle means nothing so it being in Monmouth county means nothing also
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Freehold is on its last legs. The quality went downhill ever since Sandals got pinched.