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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Way to go on June 10, 2024, 09:01:38 AM
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Update ????
Who ?????
What horses ??????
Holdup........... ...........
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Rumor has they were swept under the rug! tmbz1
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Rumor has they all rolled on Tony Morgan and shit about to get real deep!
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They known about the trunk vet forever and have always turned a blind eye to it. Why would now be any different?
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Guess these guys all got together and figured why should they all go down for shit Tony gave to them?
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Guess these guys all got together and figured why should they all go down for shit Tony gave to them?
Haha never
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Forget about Morgan. what the hell is Glassmyer using? Hell, Berry couldn't even pull one up the other night!
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Forget about Morgan. what the hell is Glassmyer using? Hell, Berry couldn't even pull one up the other night!
Exactly
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FBI
PETA
STATE POLICE
DEA
These are the groups that should be investigating these cases....sad that everyone cannot just be trainers and managers of these horses........... ... but now are puppets of MORGAN just to drug these horses.......
The entire industry should take a long,hard look at this situation and be ashamed that the sport has come to this............
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By the way.....positives are for ABD-Fubinaca just like the Maryland positives that had hearings in April....Maryland has 5 trainers with 11 positives
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Wagner had a bunch and only got one penalty. Complete bullshit! Delaware going to sweep it under the rug and not do shit! tmbz1
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By the way.....positives are for ABD-Fubinaca just like the Maryland positives that had hearings in April....Maryland has 5 trainers with 11 positives
What Delaware trainers?
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No one is saying for sure. But all are Morgan puppets, so you can piece it together. He had a couple barns on fire not so long ago. Now just so so.
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No one is saying for sure. But all are Morgan puppets, so you can piece it together. He had a couple barns on fire not so long ago. Now just so so.
So, people are assuming they're Delaware trainers involved but you can't confirm without names? Just the Maryland trainers that have been mentioned. No Delaware people have been mentioned so far and if not by now, I don't think there's any.
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Oh forgive me....I forgot that you were the expert on everything Delaware........l ol
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Just asked who they are. No expert in that statement. lol
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Subject gone cold
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I think Delaware is trying to keep it quiet until something to do sports betting money or something like that they don’t want the unwanted attention while trying to get more money
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Bart Bradley
Art stafford
TJ lord
Jason bowers
John Wagner
Tom crissman
Justin breneman
Chris Sharp
I’m sure Ive missed some bit there the ones I know of
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Four names are Maryland....
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What Delaware trainers?
Crack head Paul Davis tested positive himself. Don't surprise anyone not his first.
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Forget about Morgan. what the hell is Glassmyer using? Hell, Berry couldn't even pull one up the other night!
Hey Kirby. Looks like Glassmyer has cooled off a little and Berry is in full swing.
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back to original subject please
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Hey Kirby. Looks like Glassmyer has cooled off a little and Berry is in full swing.
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He'll back off some because they need the front and with outside PP's its tuff at Harrington. What gets me is they are only a factor in Delaware, when they go outside of De. they're average at best.
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Kirby I noticed berry steeds are not in tonight at Harrington. Also have been told that all positive have been handed to feds and a few have turned on Tony already. Will be interesting how it will play out.
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Kirby I noticed berry steeds are not in tonight at Harrington. Also have been told that all positive have been handed to feds and a few have turned on Tony already. Will be interesting how it will play out.
If that got Bery then sure as heck got Glassmeyer! See what happens when Glassmeyer draws close to inside tonite!
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Kirby I noticed berry steeds are not in tonight at Harrington. Also have been told that all positive have been handed to feds and a few have turned on Tony already. Will be interesting how it will play out.
I see Bart Bradley has his dad back down as trainer and is doing not so hot since then. Something definitely going on there. The other Morgan disciples have been cleared or just two damn dumb to stop for now.
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If that got Bery then sure as heck got Glassmeyer! See what happens when Glassmeyer draws close to inside tonite!
Sweet angel boy 1:51.1 right down the highway $16 how did I ever miss that
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Delaware trainers not listed ???
The FEDS involved......... ...yikes ;D ;D ;D
People turning on their fearless leader.........ye ah right 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
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End of story ??????????????
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If none of that is happening, maybe you can enlighten us on what is ?
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any news??
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I was about to start a new thread on this. This is how I see things. TJ Lord and Jason Bowers switch trainers but still paddocking their own in MD. John Wagner is said to have switched 30+ horses in his daughter’s name as owner. In DE a new commission guy has apparently taken over but has to clean up the mess that mark davis has left. We shall see how it plays out but something has to be done
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Big barns involved or you would’ve seen the little guys get the book thrown at them! tmbz1
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Big barns involved or you would’ve seen the little guys get the book thrown at them! tmbz1
Probably 100% correct. If you get a positive and burkes get one your safe lol nothing will happen
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Probably 100% correct. If you get a positive and burkes get one your safe lol nothing will happen
Ain’t that the truth. Or the Miller's or any of Jeffie’s trainers. It’s environmental contamination at that point! tmbz1
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I can see a trainer getting a minor positive on banamine or methocarbamol minor stuff but if it’s a repeat offender shut their barn down for a month or 2 .. Burke gets a positive his brother goes down as trainer and never misses a beat.
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I like when it always says that all trainer transfers has to be approved by presiding judge and has one ever said no, damn well knowing the new trainer is going to be a beard?
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I like when it always says that all trainer transfers has to be approved by presiding judge and has one ever said no, damn well knowing the new trainer is going to be a beard?
This whole business has turned into a joke
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This whole business has turned into a joke
True but Delaware does take it to another level.
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They do definitely take it to the next level.
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The whole positive thing has been one big embarrassment for the Delaware Racing Commission!
But that's the norm when shit gets out of hand in Delaware!
It's been over 4 months and still no statement from them on the matter. Nothing like transparency to keep the horsemen up to date!
Time to clean house!
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Hearings are on Tuesday the 13th open to anyone that wants to go
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Something coming because T. Mo sold his wheel business to someone in Ohio. He would not have sold that cash cow otherwise
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Not sure with selling a wheel business has to do with the Delaware positives? He's not named in the positives I believe.
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Not sure with selling a wheel business has to do with the Delaware positives? He's not named in the positives I believe.
The rumblings when it first happened was that he was the provider. One of the people told Maryland RC that’s whom they got it from.
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The rumblings when it first happened was that he was the provider. One of the people told Maryland RC that’s whom they got it from.
Yeap I’m sure that was true he is racing in Maryland
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results???
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DE does not like to make waves or disrupt the day to day operation. Large barns and figures like Tony Morgan are nearly untouchable if the offense occurs in DE. When bigger names get popped in other jurisdictions like Kevin Lare did, it forces their hand to an extent. They then allow horses to be transferred into the suspended person’s son or employee’s name and the horses never even have to change stalls. If that’s all you are going to do, why do anything. And their answer is: “ok, we won’t”! 😂. I’m making light of the situation, but it really is sad. And is a slap in the face to the other horsemen racing there! tmbz1
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Same everywhere.
No one wants this business cleaned up
so the beat goes on and on and on.
Why have judges?
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I heard Wagner has to return well over $150,000 in prizemoney-and had proof he personally had nothing to do with the positives.Judges gave him 0 days--but the monetary fines and return of purses stands--which is substantial.
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Everyone who got these positives 1000% gave it to the horse. The drug is not even supposed to be in USA
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DE does not like to make waves or disrupt the day to day operation. Large barns and figures like Tony Morgan are nearly untouchable if the offense occurs in DE. When bigger names get popped in other jurisdictions like Kevin Lare did, it forces their hand to an extent. They then allow horses to be transferred into the suspended person’s son or employee’s name and the horses never even have to change stalls. If that’s all you are going to do, why do anything. And their answer is: “ok, we won’t”! 😂. I’m making light of the situation, but it really is sad. And is a slap in the face to the other horsemen racing there! tmbz1
I don't think you are making light of the situation at all. This is no different than the Lance Armstrong scandal. They got away with it until the dam broke from all the cracks. This will get resolved when members of racing commissions, governing bodies, whatever, start getting indicted along with the criminals they're protecting.
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GRANDSTAND,,,,,,,,,people born in my era the 60s believe that if people can see the truth they will run to the hills,,,,,,,,,Baseball and other sports will tell you that someone got caught with PEDS but in harness racing they lie about everything and never talk thruths,,,,,,,,, Having nobody talking about the sport has killed the sport and racetracks have gone so far that most newspapers do not cover harness racing as thats not how a good reporter works,,,,,,,At weg THEY will say a horse looks great on the track but never say a horse looks real bad on the track,,,,,,,,,,,,,, If a weg person was calling a football game he would say that the QB GOES BACK TO PASS AND THROWS A 3 YARD INTERCEPTION and that was just a great pass,,,,,,,,,,
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Tracks like Maryland and Delaware are tight nit communities. If you start investigating you might not like, were it leads, thus why everything is tight lip when it comes to positives and no information being released. They know if they mess up with Casino money then they're back racing for $800 per race.