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Title: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 14, 2024, 05:14:47 PM
Track has more rules than any other track in the country but they let these 2 dipshits race there. They must not have done their homework.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kole Hanover on May 14, 2024, 06:03:56 PM


 Are these the same Jackson boys who had m.p walking around the paddock & everywhere he went with the camera rolling?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 14, 2024, 06:17:07 PM
Yup. It’s them. Like a cat with 9 lives
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harnessfan902 on May 14, 2024, 07:06:55 PM
They are out of options.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Frank the Zipper on May 14, 2024, 07:10:35 PM
Who are these guys?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Raging pace on May 14, 2024, 07:21:31 PM
Buffalo raceway is horrendous. Track crew are clueless, more horses come up lame and get broken coffin bones, so many trainers getting positives, sit for 1 week , management welcomes them back with open arms. Paige usiak give her race picks, she owns a couple horse with boyfriend / trainer clouser ( who has tested positive multiple times ). How can she sit there and give her race picks when her horses or clouser trained horse are in a race. You know she knows if the horse is juiced or lame . Huge conflict of interest. You haveguys inthe winners circle that can’t hold a license cause years ago they had a couple horses drop dead from to many drugs in the horses system , but yet they are allowed to train a horse under someone else’s name. So many cheating trainers and drivers. You wonder why there aren’t 150 people there on a race day. Place is a complete free for all and circus. Know a few people in the business that tell me what a joke this track is. So glad I got out of the business years ago.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Legal Larry K on May 14, 2024, 07:41:58 PM
how come these guys are so popular cause i never heard of them until they was gonna rough up petrelli
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: thesilentone on May 14, 2024, 07:59:07 PM
they’re total and complete scumbags … they dont pay anyone . they’re barn is complete joke and an absolute pig pen . dirtbags who shouldn’t have licenses .
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 14, 2024, 08:35:46 PM
Buffalo raceway is horrendous. Track crew are clueless, more horses come up lame and get broken coffin bones, so many trainers getting positives, sit for 1 week , management welcomes them back with open arms. Paige usiak give her race picks, she owns a couple horse with boyfriend / trainer clouser ( who has tested positive multiple times ). How can she sit there and give her race picks when her horses or clouser trained horse are in a race. You know she knows if the horse is juiced or lame . Huge conflict of interest. You haveguys inthe winners circle that can’t hold a license cause years ago they had a couple horses drop dead from to many drugs in the horses system , but yet they are allowed to train a horse under someone else’s name. So many cheating trainers and drivers. You wonder why there aren’t 150 people there on a race day. Place is a complete free for all and circus. Know a few people in the business that tell me what a joke this track is. So glad I got out of the business years ago.

Why didn't you say to see my May 5th post!                 
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 14, 2024, 08:44:08 PM
Not sure which one it is but one of them has 4 maybe 5 kids that he doesn’t support. How can he keep getting licensed?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 14, 2024, 08:51:39 PM

 Are these the same Jackson boys who had m.p walking around the paddock & everywhere he went with the camera rolling?

SCM was never in the paddock. Just the ship in area.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 14, 2024, 08:54:47 PM
how come these guys are so popular cause i never heard of them until they was gonna rough up petrelli

It was the all mouth bother Zach (The chickenshit) running his mouth once again. Dakota got sucked into it. So, there never was a "they" just a him.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Angelo Bralles on May 14, 2024, 09:14:27 PM
It was the all mouth bother Zach (The chickenshit) running his mouth once again. Dakota got sucked into it. So, there never was a "they" just a him.
How old are they?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: getreal on May 14, 2024, 09:30:00 PM
Torcello Agosti Mango rinse and repeat. I've been around for 40 years and this is the absolute worst and now The Torcello Agosti tag team
is headed to the other town down I90. Not good
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 14, 2024, 09:52:36 PM
How old are they?

25 I believe
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: oldjohn123 on May 14, 2024, 10:29:22 PM
they’re total and complete scumbags … they dont pay anyone . they’re barn is complete joke and an absolute pig pen . dirtbags who shouldn’t have licenses .
Last summer they came to Maine,used a 19.95 rent a truck and a trailer with no fenders to get to the track.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 14, 2024, 11:59:41 PM
SCM was never in the paddock. Just the ship in area.

Where did the spineless twat say to meet him?
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Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Angelo Bralles on May 15, 2024, 12:24:38 AM
Where did the spineless twat say to meet him?
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Were y’all gonna throw down? Or were you just going to video tape them ?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness racer on May 15, 2024, 12:53:21 AM
Would have been like watching bum fights.  Combined net worth around $60.  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Ramnap on May 15, 2024, 06:28:18 AM
Ohh I'm sure every trainer out there was rollin in dough when they were in their early 20's. You all had new trucks trailers equipment bikes ya I don't think so. Who gives a fuck what you drive. If ur willing to put in the effort to train and race then I salute you.  When u have to earn it it's always worth more. Somebodys gonna back those two just because they are willing and have the drive. It wouldnt take much for them to be batting  450.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 15, 2024, 08:32:56 AM
Pay your bills. Support your Children. Karma is a beautiful thing boys.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 15, 2024, 09:34:29 AM
Ohh I'm sure every trainer out there was rollin in dough when they were in their early 20's. You all had new trucks trailers equipment bikes ya I don't think so. Who gives a fuck what you drive. If ur willing to put in the effort to train and race then I salute you.  When u have to earn it it's always worth more. Somebodys gonna back those two just because they are willing and have the drive. It wouldnt take much for them to be batting  450.

Rolling in dough? Why was I contacted by a young man named David Miller from Ohio and needed to help retrieve the $19k he gave Dakota a few months ago to buy horses? He called me last week and said he still owes him $2500. Yeah. Rolling in other people's dough. Why are they caught on video at a farm they had no business being on in the middle of the night. Why were they shoplifting in Maine? Yeah. Great honest kids. Ask Zack about the "COLT" he never pays for. If you know you know. Yet that coward balled up like a bitch when I busted him. Good kids. Great for the industry.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 15, 2024, 09:37:31 AM
Were y’all gonna throw down? Or were you just going to video tape them ?
He called me out here as Pinfire. Who's the coward. I had no fucking idea who I was looking for. I showed up. He got busted. Win.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Ramnap on May 15, 2024, 10:21:33 AM
What are you even talking about about. I said who cares if they are broke it's not a crime.  At least they are trying and not sitting on the couch. 
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: batavia24 on May 15, 2024, 11:27:27 AM
This is the plan over at that shithole they call a race track They love to bring in these type It started with that clown from Ohio 2 yrs ago Get thrown out a PA tracks no problem getting in here Gural gives you the boot no problem racing here Any decent horsemen are treated like shit The horsemen rep aint around While the track is unraceable he's in Florida enjoying a jumbo shrimp cocktail Ask him why after 50 yrs they went to a dbl draw on Mondays Thats ok his best buddy runs the show up there anyway And be careful you race elsewhere when you come back to that dump its 8 hole until you get the message Really smart racing Sat nites and can't do 150k
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness racer on May 15, 2024, 11:37:28 AM
Ohh I'm sure every trainer out there was rollin in dough when they were in their early 20's. You all had new trucks trailers equipment bikes ya I don't think so. Who gives a fuck what you drive. If ur willing to put in the effort to train and race then I salute you.  When u have to earn it it's always worth more. Somebodys gonna back those two just because they are willing and have the drive. It wouldnt take much for them to be batting  450.

.450?   ngc3  You are clearly a relative.  I agree doing it when you’re young is admirable.  But not the way these two are doing it.  Reputation follows you everywhere.  And I noticed you didn’t dispute anything Petrelli said about them.  Must be a lot of truth to it!
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 15, 2024, 12:21:03 PM
What are you even talking about about. I said who cares if they are broke it's not a crime.  At least they are trying and not sitting on the couch.

Oh my bad. Didn't know young people who choose a life of stealing from the local grocery store or deal drugs on the street are considered hard working entrepreneurs who at least aren't home playing Xbox.  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Ramnap on May 15, 2024, 02:39:16 PM
I have only met them a few times. They are not a threat to anybody except maybe Mike p but everyone is a threat to him.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on May 15, 2024, 07:23:57 PM
The Buttfuk Brothers hittin a turd track.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 15, 2024, 10:25:41 PM
I have only met them a few times. They are not a threat to anybody except maybe Mike p but everyone is a threat to him.

Yeah, everyone who is anonymous cunt is a threat to me.  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Dels Finest on May 16, 2024, 06:13:38 PM
This Petrelli guy has to be a real joke. Those kids would have beaten the life out of him. Stick with the internet Mikey boy. It’s the only way a looser like you gets heard.. well sometimes. I’d rather give pigland a handy than hear what comes out your mouth.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on May 16, 2024, 07:18:54 PM
I have only met them a few times. They are not a threat to anybody except maybe Mike p but everyone is a threat to him.

They're a messed up version of Dumb and Dummer.  That Jackson gene pool must be a dairy farm shit lagoon.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 16, 2024, 07:46:51 PM
Did they end up bailing out Arthur Pendragon like they told everyone they would??
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 16, 2024, 08:25:08 PM
This Petrelli guy has to be a real joke. Those kids would have beaten the life out of him. Stick with the internet Mikey boy. It’s the only way a looser like you gets heard.. well sometimes. I’d rather give pigland a handy than hear what comes out your mouth.

The Jackson boys who didn't have the balls to say who they were on here? The same chicken shit who when I forced him to apologize here, did? Yeah, I'm shaking.  ngc3

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Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 16, 2024, 08:28:49 PM
Did they end up bailing out Arthur Pendragon like they told everyone they would??

No they did not. In fact, they deleted all their comments on the Rescue Page. Many people SS them and kept tagging and asking if they ever reached out. (They didn't)
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: PIGLAND on May 16, 2024, 08:29:44 PM
we need Mike P
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 16, 2024, 10:04:29 PM
No they did not. In fact, they deleted all their comments on the Rescue Page. Many people SS them and kept tagging and asking if they ever reached out. (They didn't)

It's pretty bad when a stranger reached out to me for help collecting money they took from him. Obviously they never learn. Yet people keep doing business with them. So either they talk a good game or people are just stupid. Like I said, I took more shit for calling them out than they were held accountable for the things they have done. And we wonder why the game is in the cesspool.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 17, 2024, 06:02:04 AM
Let’s make a list of where they have been thrown out of. I’ll start
1. Northfield
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 17, 2024, 10:44:41 AM
It's pretty bad when a stranger reached out to me for help collecting money they took from him. Obviously they never learn. Yet people keep doing business with them. So either they talk a good game or people are just stupid. Like I said, I took more shit for calling them out than they were held accountable for the things they have done. And we wonder why the game is in the cesspool.

They're no good, that's obvious. I just wonder how long it will be before they're banned from everywhere? Won't take too long, if they keep going the way they are. 
There has to be a reason they seem to be protected by M1....
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 17, 2024, 10:53:15 AM
They're no good, that's obvious. I just wonder how long it will be before they're banned from everywhere? Won't take too long, if they keep going the way they are. 
There has to be a reason they seem to be protected by M1....

Family related
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 17, 2024, 01:45:46 PM
Family related

I believe that.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 17, 2024, 02:15:05 PM
we need Mike P

Yeah, and ask him how he's doing getting people accepted to race at Yonkers!
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 17, 2024, 05:45:30 PM
Yeah, and ask him how he's doing getting people accepted to race at Yonkers!

I tried. Now I don't give a fuck. If you agree with how they handle 61 million a year in state welfare decent people can't race for you must be one of them.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 17, 2024, 06:15:26 PM
I tried. Now I don't give a fuck. If you agree with how they handle 61 million a year in state welfare decent people can't race for you must be one of them.

Seems like you change your agenda as often as your attitude!
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 17, 2024, 06:29:10 PM
Seems like you change your agenda as often as your attitude!

Seems like you continue to be a chicken shit cunt who would never say any of this to my face. Stop by the farm. You only get invited once. Or are you a Jackson who is brave on Horseplop that that's it.  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 17, 2024, 07:57:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zBceTNQh-g&t=393s
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 17, 2024, 08:00:28 PM
Seems like you continue to be a chicken shit cunt who would never say any of this to my face. Stop by the farm. You only get invited once. Or are you a Jackson who is brave on Horseplop that that's it.  ngc3

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 17, 2024, 08:05:07 PM
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

And? You live in the past. Do I look like I care? (https://iili.io/JPhiScb.jpg)
Now post a pic of yourself, or are you still scared?  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 19, 2024, 11:22:11 AM
The first night they race Buffalo other trainers have equipment stolen from them in the paddock. Guess they don’t know there are cameras everywhere in the Buffalo paddock. I hope they watch the footage and catch them red handed
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 19, 2024, 04:12:04 PM
And? You live in the past. Do I look like I care? (https://iili.io/JPhiScb.jpg)
Now post a pic of yourself, or are you still scared?  ngc3


Here's a picture just for you!
              96z.p
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Whatchutalkinboutwillis on May 19, 2024, 10:22:53 PM
They're no good, that's obvious. I just wonder how long it will be before they're banned from everywhere? Won't take too long, if they keep going the way they are. 
There has to be a reason they seem to be protected by M1....
Not protected anymore. They're out.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Hey bartender on May 19, 2024, 10:54:09 PM
Ok spill the tea!! Why did they get thrown out??
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 20, 2024, 11:17:12 AM
Not protected anymore. They're out.

That's great to hear, any idea what happened at M1?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 20, 2024, 11:18:57 AM
The first night they race Buffalo other trainers have equipment stolen from them in the paddock. Guess they don’t know there are cameras everywhere in the Buffalo paddock. I hope they watch the footage and catch them red handed

What a wonderful way to show appreciation for letting them race there, lol.
Hopefully they do something about it at Buffalo, and their stay is short lived.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: batavia24 on May 20, 2024, 12:22:12 PM
BR and the so called horsemen rep only want to fill the races Look at the crew that they let back in the last few yrs Everyone with a checkered past Those brothers fit right in up there now Does the Erie Co fair care about the drug/horse abusers up there?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: rainman2 on May 20, 2024, 12:34:53 PM
BR and the so called horsemen rep only want to fill the races Look at the crew that they let back in the last few yrs Everyone with a checkered past Those brothers fit right in up there now Does the Erie Co fair care about the drug/horse abusers up there?

Not at all!  I believe it is a non-profit organization! SLOTS SLOTS SLOTS! Maybe 1 day they will bulldoze the first turn so it’s easier to navigate at the start of a race so it isn’t so dangerous! LOL
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 20, 2024, 02:06:36 PM
BR and the so called horsemen rep only want to fill the races Look at the crew that they let back in the last few yrs Everyone with a checkered past Those brothers fit right in up there now Does the Erie Co fair care about the drug/horse abusers up there?

You're right, but there have been others who have been turned away.
End of July can't come fast enough for me.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: rainman2 on May 20, 2024, 02:56:00 PM
You're right, but there have been others who have been turned away.
End of July can't come fast enough for me.

Look how many races dates have been lost at Buffalo Raceway over the last 50 years!  Look also recently since VLT’S have been added.

If there was a way it could be decoupled, it would have already been done. For better or worse, New York State makes the rules, not the entities that own/operate the tracks!!
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Harness racer on May 20, 2024, 03:13:07 PM
And? You live in the past. Do I look like I care? (https://iili.io/JPhiScb.jpg)
Now post a pic of yourself, or are you still scared?  ngc3

Don't let Kirby's Ace get to you.  Keep your chins up!  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 20, 2024, 03:25:10 PM
Don't let Kirby's Ace get to you.  Keep your chins up!  ngc3

  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: ferdinand the bull on May 20, 2024, 08:20:50 PM
Wasn't there dad/ moms cousin, a professional wrestler Hacksaw Jim or was it George The Animal
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Parked on May 20, 2024, 08:51:47 PM
Not at all!  I believe it is a non-profit organization! SLOTS SLOTS SLOTS! Maybe 1 day they will bulldoze the first turn so it’s easier to navigate at the start of a race so it isn’t so dangerous! LOL
With wonderful planning they built the new paddock 2 inches from the race track and there is no way to widen the first turn (I call it a corner).  Great track to destroy a young horse.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: White Rabbit on May 20, 2024, 09:36:07 PM
You hear all kinds of stuff about that places from both sides, horse rep and management side. I was told by someone who works there that a very inflammatory email or memo was set out a while ago by management but I haven’t been able to convince her to send me a copy to verify it
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: getreal on May 20, 2024, 09:48:26 PM
EGO Cental at good old Buffalo Raceway. Remember when Szymanski and Schweibel were there and people bitched about them? This crew is one for the ages. When the horsemen's reps assistant is best friends with the secretary and they sit in the office and conive what do you expect, Skullduggery.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Whatchutalkinboutwillis on May 21, 2024, 06:02:43 PM
That's great to hear, any idea what happened at M1?
I heard it was a profane exchange with security. Allegedly pulled the truck and trailer to the other side, went in to use the ATM, and was asked to move it.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on May 21, 2024, 09:22:29 PM
These two butt plugs will manage to screw up there as well. 11.wp
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 21, 2024, 11:02:34 PM
These two butt plugs will manage to screw up there as well. 11.wp

Sooner than later, if they were stealing from day one.  ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: No passing lane 4U on May 22, 2024, 01:01:54 PM
I raced in Michigan years ago and those little pricks were running around like a bunch of hyperactive heathens.
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on May 22, 2024, 01:33:41 PM
I raced in Michigan years ago and those little pricks were running around like a bunch of hyperactive heathens.

Probably adrenalin fueled by theft. ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: OF JENNY on May 22, 2024, 02:05:49 PM
michigan..... that says it all
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on May 22, 2024, 05:09:09 PM
News Flash Jackson brothers steal gate car, races cancelled.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: Mazola on May 22, 2024, 07:30:14 PM
Is Michael Jackson the father?
Title: Re: Jackson twins invade Buffalo
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on May 22, 2024, 08:18:18 PM
Is Michael Jackson the father?

No just a perverted Uncle.  ngc3
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