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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Inside The Track on March 17, 2024, 11:48:48 AM
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Steel Cowboy entered in the Preferred Sale races last night at Mohawks 7th race and was clearly lame. Going into the first turn was trying to break (fall down). Drivers were doing everything they could to get around him. The horse finished distanced. Brilliant move by Anthony going into the sale. Doubt the Amish would buy him. Shareholders have lost over 100,000 in seven months. The Stable is clearly showing the industry how to rip-off many people a little at a time.
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Always a good strategy to have a good race line going into a sale! ngc3
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Not a huge fan of the concept, and was a skeptic. But it has been a success for him. But your jealousy is glaring.
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I don't have a problem with the Stable, generally, but this was a stupid buy. He was a big money yearling that good connections couldn't make go; I don't know what A-Mac thought he was going to do with him. Can't fix no talent and/or poor work ethic.
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I don't have a problem with the Stable, generally, but this was a stupid buy. He was a big money yearling that good connections couldn't make go; I don't know what A-Mac thought he was going to do with him. Can't fix no talent and/or poor work ethic.
I like the idea of the stable as a whole...but this made no sense. It was a bad buy and even worse idea to try race him in that condition. He won't bring 15k.
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He's smart enough to get rid of the junk. The stable is running with great stats everywhere they race
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How much was the kickback? Thats all he looking for
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Probably be in NW2 life in Charlottetown come May….
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interesting comment london
who is giving the kickback
was sold on ongait
just curious
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whoa, hold on sdst
top connections??
it was an idiotic purchase by heimbecker and trained by amanda fine
they are about 0/10 with the expensive yearlings they boiught
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WITH THE MONEY HE HAS BEHIND HIM, AMAC SHOULD JUST BUY PROVEN RACEHORSES THAT 3-4 YEAR OLDS AND UP. YEAH YOU PAY A LITTLE MORE MONEY FOR THEM BUT THEY ARE PROVEN AND YOURE NOT BUYING SOME YEARLING OR TWO YEAR OLD THAT YOU HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR. JUST TAKE THE PROVEN RACEHORSES AND TRY TO KEEP THEM GOING FORWARD AND IN MY OPINION HE'LL DO WAY BETTER. AMAC IS A GOOD GUY
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This guy is the biggest scam artist since madoff
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No matter how many facts are presented there are still people who do not understand that Amac only and I do mean only looks out for Amac, but as PT Barnum said...there's a sucker born every minute. Anybody wonder why he keeps posting those you tube videos of the 2 year olds training....he needs more suckers to invest $$$$$ as the well is starting to run dry
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This guy is the biggest scam artist since madoff
Is it a scam if people keep investing or a "business". Same concept as My Racehorse on the TB side. Almost zero chance of cutting a profit but "true ownership". A fool and their money easily parted in a legal way.
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What you’re all missing is he never suggests he will make you money. It’s entertainment. Golf membership, boat at the yacht club, race horse. You choose the fraction. Tell your friends…it’s a great concept.
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Two of his 2yo are up for sale today on preferred. For him to give up this early there are obvious issues now or to come with these two
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whoa, hold on sdst
top connections??
it was an idiotic purchase by heimbecker and trained by amanda fine
they are about 0/10 with the expensive yearlings they boiught
Didn't say "top" but I was under the impression they were good connections. Perhaps not. Regardless, the horse is not very good.
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trump didnt say go cause an insurrection at the capital either. but they wanna say he did.
total scam artist. he needs to be locked up. bernie madoff
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Just to be clear cause you referenced Trump, are you saying Trump should be locked up or Anthony MacDonald?
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A.Mac has the golden ticket for now. I know 3 members in this group who are tired of donating to the cause.(their words not mine) They say that the more money the horse earns,the higher the cost to each of them! They weren't very happy to fing out the expenses will be increasing more because they own enough to require them to be licensed under the new USTA regulations! 11.wp
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When did the USTA change the percentage? I thought it had always been 5%. And The Stable has always had a Canadian address so should fall under Standardbred Canada rules
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If he was legit, why does he shutoff comments on his you tube video's everyday. Three weeks ago he had a meltdown and was telling everyone he needed a business manager.
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If he was legit, why does he shutoff comments on his you tube video's everyday. Three weeks ago he had a meltdown and was telling everyone he needed a business manager.
He doesn't shut off the comments on his YouTube everyday because the comments have been off for years.
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He doesn't shut off the comments on his YouTube everyday because the comments have been off for years.
The reason the comments are shut off because he likes emails that he can handle one on one and not show how his sheep are hanging up on him. If he allowed comments on YouTube everyone would get to communicate freely and he would have a shitstorm same as when you sign up...you are not allowed to know who the other investors are...same reason. On his website which is crap...you cannot get the names of your partners even if you ask. Even if you call the Canadian racing authorities and ask about a certain horse...which I did...they will tell you that only Anthony MacDonald can tell you who the other owners are.
Unfortunately, due to privacy restrictions, we cannot share or openly post all of the names of clients associated with each horse
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LOCK MCDONALD UP. NOT TRUMP. TRUMP DID NOTHING WRONG.
ONLY THIS IDIOT WILL MAKE A A HALF A MILLION ON A MILLION DOLLAR SCHEME. AND THATS BULLSHIT THEY DONT DISCLOSE WHO THE OTHER INVESTORS ARE ON THE HORSE YOU SHARE OWNERSHIP ON. SOUNDS SHADY TO ME.
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You saying that just shows your ignorance.
Calling people an idiot to make your point, is exactly what is wrong with people nowadays.
In my disagreement with you, have I called you a name?
No, cause I have more class than that.
Congrats, you got me to respond to your post but I have learned through your posts that you are someone with very little class and therefore I will not be responding to what you write anymore.
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If he was legit, why does he shutoff comments on his you tube video's everyday. Three weeks ago he had a meltdown and was telling everyone he needed a business manager.
look in the mirror and you have the answer why he keeps them shut off
jealous pathetic fools living in mom's basement
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It's ok....they can all just write this off.
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look in the mirror and you have the answer why he keeps them shut off
jealous pathetic fools living in mom's basement
You saying Amac's people are jealous pathetic fools means you must be close to him as that is exactly what he thinks they are on a good day.
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You saying Amac's people are jealous pathetic fools means you must be close to him as that is exactly what he thinks they are on a good day.
I've never met him, the last time I owned anything was in Indiana 15 years ago.
you assholes act like it's common to own horses and make money at it.
SOS idiot
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All that Hair Dye, Starbucks & Spa Treatments; aren't going to pay for themselves.
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From the outside looking in, I will give you some perspective.
I am not a horsemen, but I have been a fan for 30 years.
A few months back, a friend of mine who has fractional ownership with The Stable, got me involved.
I always wanted to own a horse. I have heard of arrangements of 80/20, 60/40 or 50/50.
Regardless, I went in and bought 1% of a baby. Now a 2YOFP Ohio bred.
The communications have been excellent. Emails, videos, training we get to see.
Anthony has always gotten back to me and very professionally. Again, I am a 1% owner.
I do not know the man and as a fan I have always heard of him and his brothers.
I always considered him a "trot guy" Take that for what its worth.
He is doing something to try and grow the business on the whole. Is he trying to make money, absolutely, but you would be too if you had this model.
For someone to come on here and say the guy should be in jail, then you must have first hand proof to make a statement like that, otherwise you have not merit.
Then the cheap comments about someone commenting on hair dye and needing money for that.
My god people, grow up! Is your life that bad and depressing, that you have to go on a site like this and make comments like that on someone regardless of how you feel about them as a person/horsemen?
Pathetic is what I call it. People like that always will get theirs in the end. Its called Karma.
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How can you have 280 + posts on here yet seem somehow surprised by these comments?
Makes me wonder.
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Obviously, Anthony is very successful with The Stable. People run him down because they are simply jealous. 11.wp
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Your correct- Anthony is very successful with the Stable. He has created the perfect scam. Instead of ripping off one owner or a couple owners he rips off many owners a litttle bit at a time. He can't drive, the majority of his trainers are failures. I was told he has a least ten horses that he bought and no share buyers.
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What about the buyer that paid 275K for this horse as a yearling?
How did those owners make out?
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Obviously, Anthony is very successful with The Stable. People run him down because they are simply jealous. 11.wp
Not jealous at all...he has a very negative effect on people who first get in cheap before they buy a larger percentage of a horse. However, the vast, vast majority leave with a bad taste in their mouth and have nothing good to say about harness racing.
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Your correct- Anthony is very successful with the Stable. He has created the perfect scam. Instead of ripping off one owner or a couple owners he rips off many owners a litttle bit at a time. He can't drive, the majority of his trainers are failures. I was told he has a least ten horses that he bought and no share buyers.
Why do you think he is selling horses and posting all those training videos on YouTube. The well is almost dry and he needs to cough up money. If memory serves me he had to take out a bank loan about a month ago to stave off the breeders and sales companies
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Not jealous at all...he has a very negative effect on people who first get in cheap before they buy a larger percentage of a horse. However, the vast, vast majority leave with a bad taste in their mouth and have nothing good to say about harness racing.
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good logic pinehurst
the original owners lost $400k canadian
the stable only lost $150 k canadian
great job right, wish i had bought shares!!
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good logic pinehurst
the original owners lost $400k canadian
the stable only lost $150 k canadian
great job right, wish i had bought shares!!
you totally missed my point
can't say I'm surprised
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From the outside looking in, I will give you some perspective.
I am not a horsemen, but I have been a fan for 30 years.
A few months back, a friend of mine who has fractional ownership with The Stable, got me involved.
I always wanted to own a horse. I have heard of arrangements of 80/20, 60/40 or 50/50.
Regardless, I went in and bought 1% of a baby. Now a 2YOFP Ohio bred.
The communications have been excellent. Emails, videos, training we get to see.
Anthony has always gotten back to me and very professionally. Again, I am a 1% owner.
I do not know the man and as a fan I have always heard of him and his brothers.
I always considered him a "trot guy" Take that for what its worth.
He is doing something to try and grow the business on the whole. Is he trying to make money, absolutely, but you would be too if you had this model.
For someone to come on here and say the guy should be in jail, then you must have first hand proof to make a statement like that, otherwise you have not merit.
Then the cheap comments about someone commenting on hair dye and needing money for that.
My god people, grow up! Is your life that bad and depressing, that you have to go on a site like this and make comments like that on someone regardless of how you feel about them as a person/horsemen?
Pathetic is what I call it. People like that always will get theirs in the end. Its called Karma.
Good tmbz1
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name 1
Can't name one as I already stated you are not allowed to know who the owners are but lets try the owners of
Greatest Ending
Steel Hanover
Atlas Hanover
Three Point Bluechip
These are off the top of my head. Positive there is at least 1 person in the group that was pissed off
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Another sign he is getting desperate...Amac is hosting 2 webinars trying to reel in more people. Can't understand that if his model and stable are so successful why aren't people flocking to invest. You would think that with his so called over 900 investors that he would not have trouble raising money...guess these 900 do not have any friends. Word must be getting around except for the few lackeys and shills he has left.
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A lot of jealously on this site. What do you care if theStable.ca is successful or not? Fractional ownership is the way the industry is going in terms of getting new owners. Maybe we ought to be looking at the fact a lot of owners are no longer in the business....and could it be that they didn't have a good experience with some of the trainers commenting on this site??? So he has 2 young 2year olds that he is dumping in March out of like 50+ yearlings bought last fall. I'd say that's a great percentage. I would think any trainer would be happy if they had those odds. If any owner is not happy all they have to do is sell their shares and move along. That's the nature of the business. I never got a guarantee on any horse i bought in my lifetime. I may not like every decision Anthony makes in regards to horses but he does a heck of a job and has a lot of responsibility and some owners just don't understand when it's time to sell.
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A lot of jealously on this site. What do you care if theStable.ca is successful or not? Fractional ownership is the way the industry is going in terms of getting new owners. Maybe we ought to be looking at the fact a lot of owners are no longer in the business....and could it be that they didn't have a good experience with some of the trainers commenting on this site??? So he has 2 young 2year olds that he is dumping in March out of like 50+ yearlings bought last fall. I'd say that's a great percentage. I would think any trainer would be happy if they had those odds. If any owner is not happy all they have to do is sell their shares and move along. That's the nature of the business. I never got a guarantee on any horse i bought in my lifetime. I may not like every decision Anthony makes in regards to horses but he does a heck of a job and has a lot of responsibility and some owners just don't understand when it's time to sell.
1. You are right, I could care less if he dried up and blew away. I care about the industry and he is all about 100% for Amac and 0% for owners. The only thing he cares about is lining his pockets, not the industry.
2. You make it sound like its real easy to sell shares. That's true if you want to dump them at a deep discount.
3. I might be missing it but when you say fractional ownership is the way the industry is going, define fractional ownership. If its so great how many others trainers offer a 1% ownership.
4. I keep beating this point, if Amac is as transparent as he wants you to believe and I am an investor in a horse, why am I not allowed to know who else owns parts of my horse and don't give me that privacy crap as that is what he uses to make sure 5 or 10 people don't get together and gang up on him. Do you realize that even if you own 51% of a horse you have NO say....Amac makes all decisions. Amac loves puppets and their money
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I can genuinely see someone wanting to own 1% of a sports franchise etc. I have never understood the appeal of owning 1% of a race horse, it does not make any sense.
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I have never understood the appeal of owning 1% of a race horse, it does not make any sense.
It makes perfect sense. If you're getting fleeced it's far far better to own only a miniscule portion of a horse.
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It makes perfect sense. If you're getting fleeced it's far far better to own only a miniscule portion of a horse.
I own 1% of a horse and it is great.
Low risk/high reward if the horse turns out to be a SS horse.
My expectations are low. If I break even or make a few dollars, I’m happy.
If the horse fails, it’s still not a huge huge investment.
I don’t have 50-100k to buy a horse on my own, so this is a much better option. Weekly updates, videos, etc.,,,
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would love to know the name of the horse so we can all follow him/her during the summer
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would love to know the name of the horse so we can all follow him/her during the summer
your a no nothing nosey piece of fucking shit
list your horses if you want of list of other peoples horses so you can belittle them when they don't race good
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Lots of bitter people on this thread...it does suck being on the outside looking in.
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your a no nothing nosey piece of fucking shit
list your horses if you want of list of other peoples horses so you can belittle them when they don't race good
At least after your first word the spelling got better. To make it simple for you I did not ask for a list just the name of one horse. Did I go slow enough for you to understand?
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At least after your first word the spelling got better. To make it simple for you I did not ask for a list just the name of one horse. Did I go slow enough for you to understand?
ok, so list ONE of your horses
or STFU ASSHOLE
Can you read that?
Is it Brownmoose because you start your day with moose cock for breakfast everyday?
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part owner Racing Hill
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I DO NOT KNOW THESE FOLKS NOR HAVE I EVER SEEN ANY OF HIS PAPERWORK BUT MY BIGGEST QUESTION WOULD BE HOW IS THIS NOT A SECURITY? THE CLIENT OR OWNER OF THE FRACTIONAL SHARE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE ANIMAL NOR INPUT---ALLEGEDLY THERE IS A SITE SETUP TO BUY AND SELL SHARES OF THE HORSES AT WILL I GUESS YOU OWN A SMALL PICE BUT HAVE NO REAL MANAGEMENT IN THE HORSE AND IF THE OWNERS DO NOT COMMUNICATE NOR MAKE MANAGEMENT DECISIONS I WOULD BE UNCERTAIN WHY THIS IS NOT DEEMED A SECURITY BY THE SEC. THE IRS WOULD ALSO BE INVOLVED IF THIS IS TRUE---TRULY, I AM UNAWARE OF THESE FOLKS BUT I WOULD QUESTION THE STRUCTURE TAX WISE AND IF IN FACT THIS IS A SECURITY AS PER THE SEC.
I KNOW IN THE PAST THIS WOULD BE DEEMED A SECURITY ---IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THESE FOLKS FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET AROUND THIS---I ALSO KNOW MANY MANY OTER ENTITIES WERE SHUT DOWN BY THE SEC FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE SEC GUIDELINES.
I WOULD THINK THESE FOLKS HAVE A GREAT SECURITIES ATTORNEY---IF NOT, I WOULD HIRE ONE ASAP IF THE PARTNERS ARE GETTING A BIT UPSET---THAT IS WHEN THE SEC STEPS IN-----
IN CLOSING I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY DOCUMENTS ON THIS STRUCTURE NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE INVOLVED ---I AM SPEAKING AS SOMEONE WITHOUT THE TRUE FACTS BUT WITH KNOWLEDGE OF SECURITY INFO.
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I can genuinely see someone wanting to own 1% of a sports franchise etc. I have never understood the appeal of owning 1% of a race horse, it does not make any sense.
I own a sliver of 9 thoroughbreds --- Sense, doesn't need to make sense... Just having fun.
For a small amount I am buying into horses costing hundreds of thousands, trained by the best in the country. Getting the best care, updates in most case weekly and many times videos attached of them breezing and comments from the trainer. An opportunity to get into the paddock before the race, winner circle photo's which if you are there, can get your picture taken. Outings that are setup at tracks like Keenland and Churchill ( which I have attended ) barn visits, training farms, breeding farms.
In most cases, I have not made my one time initial investment which covers everything (understand that in Amac's case there are training bills ) ranging from $42 and have paid as much as $205 for a three horse package.
But --- Did own in On Mage - last years KY Derby Winner. Made nice money at the cost of $50 share. Awaiting next payment from the money he is making from going to stud.
So to me - for a small amount - little risk - and honestly little monetary reward, but having a heck of a time, I have trained, driven, and owned harness horses. Learning how things our down in the thoroughbred world has been a great experience.
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I own a sliver of 9 thoroughbreds --- Sense, doesn't need to make sense... Just having fun.
For a small amount I am buying into horses costing hundreds of thousands, trained by the best in the country. Getting the best care, updates in most case weekly and many times videos attached of them breezing and comments from the trainer. An opportunity to get into the paddock before the race, winner circle photo's which if you are there, can get your picture taken. Outings that are setup at tracks like Keenland and Churchill ( which I have attended ) barn visits, training farms, breeding farms.
In most cases, I have not made my one time initial investment which covers everything (understand that in Amac's case there are training bills ) ranging from $42 and have paid as much as $205 for a three horse package.
But --- Did own in On Mage - last years KY Derby Winner. Made nice money at the cost of $50 share. Awaiting next payment from the money he is making from going to stud.
So to me - for a small amount - little risk - and honestly little monetary reward, but having a heck of a time, I have trained, driven, and owned harness horses. Learning how things our down in the thoroughbred world has been a great experience.
same here Dink, I own a couple of shares through Myracehorse. No big hits yet, however i did win a lottery for a trip to thw paddock at Aqueduct.
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Why do I owe anyone on here an explanation for why I want to own 1%, 2% or 5% of a standardbred ? Why do I give a hoot who my partners are on any horse I own a piece of ? What I do know is that anytrime I text AMAC, I get an answer in minutes. It's not always the answer I want to hear, but I'm fine with that. And trust me, AMAC is not making the killing the dolts on here think he is. You boys have no idea what goes into running a 100+ horse stable spread over 5 or 6 racetracks or training centres. Keeping books and sending monthly invoices and an elaborate website plus live videos of the babies training at least every other week. All this stuff is labor intensive and labor isn't cheap. Also he has to carry the expenses on any unsold portion of ANY horse he offers to the public. Go to WestPoint Thorughbreds where they sell $1.00 lettery tickets for $1.30 (if you ask them why, they will tell you "we buy at wholseales and sell at retail"). AMAC doesn't mark-up his horses at all !!
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gentleman( to be clear i have no vested interest )
we have been through all of this before
to each their own and buyer beware
everyone needs to have a interest or hobby, maybe some people on here have 1,2,3,4 different streaming services costing $10-$20 each monthly
instead of paying that perhaps some folks would rather put that money into a few shares of some race horses
if people don't like it they will stop purchasing shares and it will downsize or go away
they won a few grand circuit races in Lexington and i am sure for many owners that was a huge thrill as it should be
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Ever wonder why Amac runs a 100 head fractional business?
Pretty sure it's because he couldn't possibly have a 30 horse stable on his own. He's not a very talented trainer, and he is a terrible driver.
He is however smart enough to make a very good living through fractional ownership because he doesn't really answer to real owners.
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I'm 99% sure most of these negative posters are competing trainers that don't have the wisdom or balls to do what AMAC has done...bitching wont change your fate
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As far as Steel Cowboy goes, I had the chance to buy a piece but watched some of his races for the Marty/Amanda Fine and he was bumpy gaited back then. Horse is not lame, just doesn't have a fluid gait. I passed and glad I did as admittedly The Stable wasn't able to make any progress with him.
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I'm 99% sure most of these negative posters are competing trainers that don't have the wisdom or balls to do what AMAC has done...bitching wont change your fate
If you are right then I am in the 1%....never a trainer, always an owner. I suggest you look into the shenanigans Amac pulled with Steve Palermo with High Gear No Fear.
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Do elaborate...I'm all ears. Maybe you change my mind...
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Bought the horse from Palermo, one of his best friends. Horse was racing at Yonkers and on getting worse. Amac bought the horse for either $60K. or $65K, sold shares touting that the horse was an open trotter. Paid Palermo $50K and Amac pocketed the rest. HGNF made just over $1000 and was sold for under $15K. With expenses for 4-6 months you do the math. Certainly not an arms length transaction. The only facts you can check are what Amac paid for HGNF, what he made, and what he sold for. You connect the dots about the rest.
About 4 years ago I bought a horse off Amac for 9K. He told the investors he sold the horse for 6K. Problem for Amac was that one of the partners loved the horse and wanted to purchase a third of him for $2K. Had to tell him he was not for sale and that I paid 9K. When he confronted Amac, Amac said he had the horse confused with another and had to admit to the 9K sale and the had to cough up the $3K to the partners. I had the check to prove the 9K purchase.
So if you think these are 2 isolated cases I think you are badly mistaken
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Sounds like the sorta stuff that goes on daily in the harness racing business...I do realize that Palermo and AMAC are good friends, but CAVEAT EMPTOR. I never buy into TheStable.ca horses w/o looking at the racelines and watching the horses recent races, and even then the price has to make sense. I've passed on a bunch and some have gone on to do well (Texsong Soprano), and I've bought into some that have disappointed (not Steel Cowboy). I'm just looking for some action and with The Stable, I've found great action and although AMAC isn't the best driver or trainer (he doesn't claim to be) he's good enough for my purposes and perfection does not exist in a fractional ownership way.
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Not the first time AMac has pulled that kind of stuff. Got a long suspension in Ontario about 10 years ago for the same kind of thing. Told the owner horse was no good and they should sell to Amish for $2000. AMac got the papers and changed the horses name. Fortunately the owner saw the horse at the races and thought he looked familiar. Looked him up and found the name had been changed from what it was when he owned him.
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Someone asked me who the horse I own the 1% in is.
Based on my years being on this forum, reading the comments (good and bad) it is not worth it to me.
There is too much negativity, so I will pass.
I am a fan, not a horseman. I do not have family in the business.
Always wanted to own a horse and this was a way for me to get started on a low scale.
We will see where it takes me.
As a 1% owner, who does not know AMAC at all, I do not feel compelled to get involved in the everyday dealings with my 2YOFP.
He runs the operation and is very good with communicating when asked.
I can only hope they can get the horse to the races and time will tell.
Until he gives me a reason to get out, I will enjoy the ride and fun with my friends who also own shares.
If the horse does get to the races and I am fortunate enough to be in the winner's circle for a race, I will post the picture.
Best of luck to all the people that own and race horses.
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Someone asked me who the horse I own the 1% in is.
Based on my years being on this forum, reading the comments (good and bad) it is not worth it to me.
There is too much negativity, so I will pass.
I am a fan, not a horseman. I do not have family in the business.
Always wanted to own a horse and this was a way for me to get started on a low scale.
We will see where it takes me.
As a 1% owner, who does not know AMAC at all, I do not feel compelled to get involved in the everyday dealings with my 2YOFP.
He runs the operation and is very good with communicating when asked.
I can only hope they can get the horse to the races and time will tell.
Until he gives me a reason to get out, I will enjoy the ride and fun with my friends who also own shares.
If the horse does get to the races and I am fortunate enough to be in the winner's circle for a race, I will post the picture.
Best of luck to all the people that own and race horses.
Good luck. Your first win is something you will never forget
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as i said buyer beware
if you stick to the horses bought at public auctions you know what the real numbers are
i agree with some of the comments that when you start dealing in private transactions this is where it gets sketchy and it has for years
also know who you are dealing with, if some of these stories are in fact true than you should have your guard up and tread carefully when buying into horses the stable has
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Good luck. Your first win is something you will never forget
I agree. I will probably see it via Simulcast, as she will be in Ohio and I am in the New England area.
Still will be cool. Probably be a watch party with friends who also own a piece.
Thank you.
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as i said buyer beware
if you stick to the horses bought at public auctions you know what the real numbers are
i agree with some of the comments that when you start dealing in private transactions this is where it gets sketchy and it has for years
also know who you are dealing with, if some of these stories are in fact true than you should have your guard up and tread carefully when buying into horses the stable has
Always buyer beware, you are right. That is why I went in small to start. A friend of mine's cousin is a trainer and I hope to meet him this Spring to pick his brain about the business, my current set-up, so I can learn more and make even more informed decisions for the future. This trainer has a Hambo winner, so I am looking forward to that conversation.
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Won't be long before the new pitch will begin....."and you too can be a fractional owner of the new TheStable ranch and when you come see your investments train,you will be standing on the ground that you are a part owner of!" tmbz1 ngc3