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Title: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Mailbox Money on February 04, 2024, 06:09:49 PM
Last night's O'BRIAN Awards for the best in all categories had what I would call a questionable selection for Trainer of the year! Dr. Ian Moore! The same guy that was barred from racing in the Jug for attempting to circumvent the Detention Barn regulations! This to me is proof that there is a Burke in every crowd! No doubt that the intro proclaimed his greatness in all facets of his life and the sport. If this doesn't make the entire selection process a farce, nothing will!💉💉💉😟
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Brown jug on February 04, 2024, 06:53:45 PM
so what ever came of that issue at the jug
was their a final decision of guilt and a fine and suspension
never heard of the outcome
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Par Four on February 04, 2024, 09:19:17 PM
Burke won one as well. (2yo filly)
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Mailbox Money on February 04, 2024, 10:12:22 PM
so what ever came of that issue at the jug
was their a final decision of guilt and a fine and suspension
never heard of the outcome
I believe that the wording was T.R.I. (Trainer Responsibility Infractions) $250 fine! & scratched!
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: ferdinand the bull on February 05, 2024, 09:17:57 AM
Last night's O'BRIAN Awards for the best in all categories had what I would call a questionable selection for Trainer of the year! Dr. Ian Moore! The same guy that was barred from racing in the Jug for attempting to circumvent the Detention Barn regulations! This to me is proof that there is a Burke in every crowd! No doubt that the intro proclaimed his greatness in all facets of his life and the sport. If this doesn't make the entire selection process a farce, nothing will!💉💉💉😟
Doc Moore is all hay and oats with some epogen and growth hormones added
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Jazzman on February 05, 2024, 09:21:12 AM
tony beaton won for 2yo pacer why are these guys even eligable this was a casie colmen horse
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: ferdinand the bull on February 05, 2024, 09:50:02 AM
If they eliminated everyone with a positive test or suspension they'd have no awards
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: dinkadoo on February 05, 2024, 10:33:53 AM
so what ever came of that issue at the jug
was their a final decision of guilt and a fine and suspension
never heard of the outcome
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Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Brown jug on February 05, 2024, 10:44:59 AM
ok, thanks
 i guess the only thing he was guilty of was trying to avoid the detention barn and paid a hefty penalty in the horse getting scratched
i mean realistically they never tested or found anything in the horses blood
 however if i am the owner i might have a few questions for the ole doc on why my horse got scratched out of a $1m race
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Artsplace on February 05, 2024, 10:50:43 AM
ok, thanks
 i guess the only thing he was guilty of was trying to avoid the detention barn and paid a hefty penalty in the horse getting scratched
i mean realistically they never tested or found anything in the horses blood
 however if i am the owner i might have a few questions for the ole doc on why my horse got scratched out of a $1m race

Yur missing a key point. Many owners are the actual  suppliers of the yum yums.
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: old guy on February 05, 2024, 10:55:27 AM
Yur missing a key point. Many owners are the actual  suppliers of the yum yums.

ie David Brooks of Perfect World and Bulletproof
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: mwins on February 05, 2024, 10:55:49 AM
tony beaton won for 2yo pacer why are these guys even eligable this was a casie colmen horse

I'm sure Tony wasn't eligible. Should they punish the owners because the trainer is a POS horse abuser?
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 05, 2024, 01:37:48 PM
Mailbox Money, great thread and great observation. Moore is more self professed than proclaimed. A true asshole in the Canadian side of the sport. But as long as you have douche bags presiding over the selections, and Gaping Assholes, and Cocksuckers at the helm of the registries in CA and US. this is what you'll get. I say its time to over throw the organizational powers that be and dis-ban they're monopolies.
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Parked on February 05, 2024, 02:37:40 PM
Other than a couple owners and/or trainers, who really gives a crap about who wins.  On this side of the border the midnight blood draw was quieted down in a hurry.   Too bad SCM didn’t get going on that ….
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: brownmoose13 on February 05, 2024, 02:54:23 PM
I'm sure Tony wasn't eligible. Should they punish the owners because the trainer is a POS horse abuser?

To answer your question, yes they should punish the owners. Until they make the horse sit out the same number of days as the trainer it will be business as usual. Hit the owners in the pocketbook and watch what happens. Burke, Rhoades, Sillachi, and everyone else can change the named trainer but if the horse can't race problem greatly solved but thats too easy of a solution
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Brown jug on February 05, 2024, 04:35:59 PM
xyz, sounds like you are talking about the grammys ??
for a results based  award personality does not factor in , just results
if he was eligible than so be it
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Mailbox Money on February 05, 2024, 04:56:21 PM
I like the idea of the Owners and trainers both sit with a positive test! They should also not be allowed to transfer Ownership with out proof of compensation,also the horse cannot be transferred back to the original owner for either 30,60,90 days! Let the cheaters put this in their pipes and smoke it! With the way they handle cheating in this game, it shocks me that there isn't a line of prospective owners lined up by the Paddock nightly! SMH
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 05, 2024, 10:38:57 PM
Other than a couple owners and/or trainers, who really gives a crap about who wins.  On this side of the border the midnight blood draw was quieted down in a hurry.   Too bad SCM didn’t get going on that ….

Bowden and his gay mid night masquerade. Another gaping asshole in the business.  With that little goatee he look like an upside down twat.
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Jazzman on February 06, 2024, 02:18:09 PM
owners should be punished their responsiable for hireing these scums
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: mwins on February 06, 2024, 07:12:56 PM
Some of you guys are so dumb, it truly amazes me.
You talk about a Beaton horse winning an award. I point out that Beaton is out of the game for beating a horse. Somehow, you guys turn it into a drug offence, and say the owners should be punished.
Incredible logic lmfao.
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: okdfool on February 06, 2024, 07:37:00 PM
Ohhhh he's not only in Canada!
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: brownmoose13 on February 06, 2024, 09:51:30 PM
Some of you guys are so dumb, it truly amazes me.
You talk about a Beaton horse winning an award. I point out that Beaton is out of the game for beating a horse. Somehow, you guys turn it into a drug offence, and say the owners should be punished.
Incredible logic lmfao.

Only speaking for myself but I said owners and their horses should be punished when their trainer gets a positive test. First time the owners get warned and if they remain and there is a second offense then the owner and only the horse getting the positive gets to sit. I will once again say that when the owners get hit in the pocketbook some things will change and until then, nothing will change
Title: Re: Standardbred Canada is no better than USTA!
Post by: Generation XYZ on February 06, 2024, 11:04:53 PM
IS Bowden actually GAY, or does he just go out of his way to appear GAY?
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