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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 30, 2023, 11:30:40 PM
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Bringing Caliber to the winners circle after the second race was disgusting. That was animal abuse in its most blatant form. Very sad.
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Jesus Christ that is beyond bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfBV6RF34dI
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Jesus Christ that is beyond bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfBV6RF34dI
I'm glad there is a video of it. What has happened to harness racing? Hard to believe this happened at M1. I never really had an opinion of Corey Callahan until now. What the fuck was he thinking?
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Callahan is a jackoffs for making that poor horse go that far after it’s clear he broke down. Get off your lazy ass you moron and get your head out of your ass. Fine this cocksucker a few thousand.
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I am almost speechless. What in the world is this driver thinking about? He could have gone directly to the paddock or just stop and call for a horse ambulance. This guy deserves a huge fine.
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I'm glad there is a video of it. What has happened to harness racing? Hard to believe this happened at M1. I never really had an opinion of Corey Callahan until now. What the fuck was he thinking?
Corey responded to Mike on FB
Michael I understand your concern. And hindsight 20/20 i should’ve just took him directly to the paddock following the race. But……this horse scored down and raced 100% sound. I’ve scratched lots of horses for being lame prior to the race. But this horse showed no signs. Initially thought maybe he just took a bad step or something (and vet and I spoke as I went by) but halfway there I realized something truly was up which is why I walked him and then walked him by hand back to the paddock. And by then he was walking sound. So just wanted to say that I appreciate your concern for the wellbeing of the horse but I was also concerned. And believe it or not but the trainer was also concerned and assured me the horse would receive proper treatment
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Kudos for the explanation! Nice to see this rather than a 2 page pissing contest! tmbz1
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Scumbag Callahan should get days and a nice fine. That’s animal abuse you jackoffs. He tries to deflect and blow it off like oh I walked him back from the winners circle. You sure did because 20 people around the winners circle were screaming at you jack off.
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Corey responded to Mike on FB
Michael I understand your concern. And hindsight 20/20 i should’ve just took him directly to the paddock following the race. But……this horse scored down and raced 100% sound. I’ve scratched lots of horses for being lame prior to the race. But this horse showed no signs. Initially thought maybe he just took a bad step or something (and vet and I spoke as I went by) but halfway there I realized something truly was up which is why I walked him and then walked him by hand back to the paddock. And by then he was walking sound. So just wanted to say that I appreciate your concern for the wellbeing of the horse but I was also concerned. And believe it or not but the trainer was also concerned and assured me the horse would receive proper treatment
LOL. The trainer was concerned. What a crock of shit. Who the fuck is the trainer? Maria Alvarez? Even in an apology, these cocksuckers lie.
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Have you ever met Corey Callahan ???
He is absolutely brain dead about horses.
Worked with him years ago at a youth camp and he didn't know where pieces of equipment went or the name of the equipment.
When you are so self absorbed and narcissistic you don't notice normal everyday things.....Like lame horses
He is lost out there.....just go to front and keep on going....that's why his earning numbers have dropped off so drastically and he now owns horse with his parents to support his family of 4 kids.
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He is still earning a nice living with 5% of these purses:
Callahan, Corey 2450-- 308-- 288-- 321-- 4,348,031
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Scumbag Callahan should get days and a nice fine. That’s animal abuse you jackoffs. He tries to deflect and blow it off like oh I walked him back from the winners circle. You sure did because 20 people around the winners circle were screaming at you jack off.
lol like there was 20 ppl near the winners circle
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Behavior like this doesnt garner the description of a Horseman. Despicable!!!
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Behavior like this doesnt garner the description of a Horseman. Despicable!!!
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Horrible display of horsemanship!
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At the rise of sounding totally ignorant,tell me....what should he have done when the race was over? You wind up on the backside of the track with a lame horse...then what? What is acceptable in the critics' minds?
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Odd part was the horse that won the first race was just as bad or worse.
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At the rise of sounding totally ignorant,tell me....what should he have done when the race was over? You wind up on the backside of the track with a lame horse...then what? What is acceptable in the critics' minds?
Go back to paddock. It's right on backside
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Cory was wrong. He should of pulled him up and walked him back to the paddock rather than have the horse go another 1/2 mile to the winners circle.
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Cory was wrong. He should of pulled him up and walked him back to the paddock rather than have the horse go another 1/2 mile to the winners circle.
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Go back to paddock. It's right on backside
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I am almost speechless. What in the world is this driver thinking about? He could have gone directly to the paddock or just stop and call for a horse ambulance. This guy deserves a huge fine.
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Horrible display of horsemanship!
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Scumbag Callahan should get days and a nice fine. That’s animal abuse you jackoffs. He tries to deflect and blow it off like oh I walked him back from the winners circle. You sure did because 20 people around the winners circle were screaming at you jack off.
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Stupid games draw Stupid people!
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lol like there was 20 ppl near the winners circle
They actually had a nice crowd there on Sat. it was $2 beer nite, lol.
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Happy New Year to all. We have made progress in the game of horse racing. Yes, it is a terrible look for the morals of the industry when you win a race, and return dead lame. No doubt, he should have went straight to the paddock.
But, as I said , we have made some progress. I recall racing at Monticello in 1978. Joe Ricco and his trainer, Skeeter Pines had a mid level claimer that could win every race he was entered. His full name escapes me, Hobo something . Hobo Willy maybe. Anyway, if you could get the horse on the starting gate, you were almost sure of a win.
So, the outrider could not help. The horse would dig them in and sulk. To get him there, they would place the poor guy in so much pain, he would do anything. Skeeter would place a clamp style twitch over his lips and walk him on the backside. Then, run him up and place his nose on the gait.
Every race the whole place of people and of course all the racing officials saw this cruelty and accepted it as "good horsemanship"
Monticello had others like one who would win quite often and literally walk to the winner's circle dead lame. Then walk back to the paddock that was on the back side of the quarter pole back then, getting more lame with every step. 7 days later he was back in to go. Poor bastard would win again and thousands would watch the enslaved animal go though this toucher again. All along horsemen and fans saying , "boy, what a tough SOB, he has some guts. "
Many more just like this at every racetrack. Back then we looked at as a badge of bravery to the poor horse. Like he had a choice.
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Happy New Year to all. We have made progress in the game of horse racing. Yes, it is a terrible look for the morals of the industry when you win a race, and return dead lame. No doubt, he should have went straight to the paddock.
But, as I said , we have made some progress. I recall racing at Monticello in 1978. Joe Ricco and his trainer, Skeeter Pines had a mid level claimer that could win every race he was entered. His full name escapes me, Hobo something . Hobo Willy maybe. Anyway, if you could get the horse on the starting gate, you were almost sure of a win.
So, the outrider could not help. The horse would dig them in and sulk. To get him there, they would place the poor guy in so much pain, he would do anything. Skeeter would place a clamp style twitch over his lips and walk him on the backside. Then, run him up and place his nose on the gait.
Every race the whole place of people and of course all the racing officials saw this cruelty and accepted it as "good horsemanship"
Monticello had others like one who would win quite often and literally walk to the winner's circle dead lame. Then walk back to the paddock that was on the back side of the quarter pole back then, getting more lame with every step. 7 days later he was back in to go. Poor bastard would win again and thousands would watch the enslaved animal go though this toucher again. All along horsemen and fans saying , "boy, what a tough SOB, he has some guts. "
Many more just like this at every racetrack. Back then we looked at as a badge of bravery to the poor horse. Like he had a choice.
The reason it was accepted back then was that the only people that saw those acts of abuse were the racing fans viewing it live at that particular track. Once the internet took over, evidence such as pics and video of horseracing cruelty were viewed immediately and distributed and reviewed by anyone and everyone including animal rights organizations and supporters. The internet changed the playing field.
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No doubt simulcasting exposed it to many more people. But, it was our culture that not only accepted it as slick horsemanship, but saw no wrong in it. My point is we have evolved in our equine values. There is less treating a horse as a pure commodity and more as a living being. We still have a ways to go in some circles. The claiming game is nowhere near the rent- a- horse game it was just 10 years ago. And, there is progress on the drug users.
I am not naive enough to believe it will ever be a drug free game, but, there has been more progress in these areas of abuse and cruelty then at anytime.
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No doubt simulcasting exposed it to many more people. But, it was our culture that not only accepted it as slick horsemanship, but saw no wrong in it. My point is we have evolved in our equine values. There is less treating a horse as a pure commodity and more as a living being. We still have a ways to go in some circles. The claiming game is nowhere near the rent- a- horse game it was just 10 years ago. And, there is progress on the drug users.
I am not naive enough to believe it will ever be a drug free game, but, there has been more progress in these areas of abuse and cruelty then at anytime.
The only people that accepted it as slick horsemanship were horsemen. The culture didn't change its opinion on animal abuse because they never saw the acts you described due to the lack of technology. Once animal rights groups were exposed to the abusive acts which are now posted all over the web, they started to get involved. This forced the horse business, not the culture to change. For example, Corey Callahan had to make a public apology on Facebook to protect his ass from groups like PETA. If that happened 40 years ago, he wouldn't have said a word and no one would be the wiser including us ploppers, as even Horseplop wasn't around then.
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The only people that accepted it as slick horsemanship were horsemen. The culture didn't change its opinion on animal abuse because they never saw the acts you described due to the lack of technology. Once animal rights groups were exposed to the abusive acts which are now posted all over the web, they started to get involved. This forced the horse business, not the culture to change. For example, Corey Callahan had to make a public apology on Facebook to protect his ass from groups like PETA. If that happened 40 years ago, he wouldn't have said a word and no one would be the wiser including us ploppers, as even Horseplop wasn't around then.
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Skeeter Pines fixed hundreds of races at Monti and Yonkers. At YR he had at least 10 top drivers going dead for him on a regular basis. He would roam the orange County OTBs and pace his bets there. Coke head was a real piece of shit and don't get me started on Joe Ricco Jr.
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Skeeter Pines fixed hundreds of races at Monti and Yonkers. At YR he had at least 10 top drivers going dead for him on a regular basis. He would roam the orange County OTBs and pace his bets there. Coke head was a real piece of shit and don't get me started on Joe Ricco Jr.
Joe Ricco and George Brennan are related some how? Ricco a step father maybe?
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Joe Ricco and George Brennan are related some how? Ricco a step father maybe?
That is correct. Stepfather, I believe he raised George.
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That is correct. Stepfather, I believe he raised George.
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All the experts are out early. Callahan should have brought the horse back to the barn . Then the topic would be Corey trying to hide a lame horse. I f he noticed something in the race and drove the horse easy the topic would be he cheated. Every horse that comes out of a race is little dinged up before they went in. only way to stop lame horses is to stop racing. T-breds race once-a-month for this reason.Standard breds can go once a week but not every week.
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All the experts are out early. Callahan should have brought the horse back to the barn . Then the topic would be Corey trying to hide a lame horse. I f he noticed something in the race and drove the horse easy the topic would be he cheated. Every horse that comes out of a race is little dinged up before they went in. only way to stop lame horses is to stop racing. T-breds race once-a-month for this reason.Standard breds can go once a week but not every week.
I'm not am expert. All I know is watching what Callahan did with that made me physically ill
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“By then he was walking sound”. Does that mean we might see a replay in a week or so ???
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Happy New Year to all. We have made progress in the game of horse racing. Yes, it is a terrible look for the morals of the industry when you win a race, and return dead lame. No doubt, he should have went straight to the paddock.
But, as I said , we have made some progress. I recall racing at Monticello in 1978. Joe Ricco and his trainer, Skeeter Pines had a mid level claimer that could win every race he was entered. His full name escapes me, Hobo something . Hobo Willy maybe. Anyway, if you could get the horse on the starting gate, you were almost sure of a win.
So, the outrider could not help. The horse would dig them in and sulk. To get him there, they would place the poor guy in so much pain, he would do anything. Skeeter would place a clamp style twitch over his lips and walk him on the backside. Then, run him up and place his nose on the gait.
Every race the whole place of people and of course all the racing officials saw this cruelty and accepted it as "good horsemanship"
Monticello had others like one who would win quite often and literally walk to the winner's circle dead lame. Then walk back to the paddock that was on the back side of the quarter pole back then, getting more lame with every step. 7 days later he was back in to go. Poor bastard would win again and thousands would watch the enslaved animal go though this toucher again. All along horsemen and fans saying , "boy, what a tough SOB, he has some guts. "
Many more just like this at every racetrack. Back then we looked at as a badge of bravery to the poor horse. Like he had a choice.
Back in the 80s, my friend co-owned a horse called Escortention with trainer Ray Flis. Almost every week he would win the 25k claimer at the Meadowlands, but in between races, he’d be standing in a bucket of ice water. He never looked lame, but he was sore except for those 2 minutes in the race.
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Back in the 80s, my friend co-owned a horse called Escortention with trainer Ray Flis. Almost every week he would win the 25k claimer at the Meadowlands, but in between races, he’d be standing in a bucket of ice water. He never looked lame, but he was sore except for those 2 minutes in the race.
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LOL. The trainer was concerned. What a crock of shit. Who the fuck is the trainer? Maria Alvarez? Even in an apology, these cocksuckers lie.
Can you imagine how lame that horse would be on hay and oats?
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All the experts are out early. Callahan should have brought the horse back to the barn . Then the topic would be Corey trying to hide a lame horse. I f he noticed something in the race and drove the horse easy the topic would be he cheated. Every horse that comes out of a race is little dinged up before they went in. only way to stop lame horses is to stop racing. T-breds race once-a-month for this reason.Standard breds can go once a week but not every week.
You're a fucking idiot.
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Arrested ?
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All I know he's scared shitless! Now he's explaining himself and throwing the State Vet under the bus to SCM! I mean dude WTF you doing! This guy will spin any statement you make to make him feel important and chase a story.
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Where was the state vet when the horse was scoring down? A horse that sore had a show some signs in the post parade if you’re sharp enough to see it.
State vet should be fired but no doubt was probably more concerned with texting his top clients/trainers to tell them what races they were blood gas testing just my opinion.
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All I know he's scared shitless! Now he's explaining himself and throwing the State Vet under the bus to SCM! I mean dude WTF you doing! This guy will spin any statement you make to make him feel important and chase a story.
I’m no horseman, but would suggest it’s a HUGE mistake to engage with the gaslighter Petrellie
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I’m no horseman, but would suggest it’s a HUGE mistake to engage with the gaslighter Petrellie
You're smart!
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You're smart!
According to SCM he is an abuse supporter...just because he said not to feed into SCM. Doesn't make one a supporter of anything by saying don't give SCM more ammo. I think Corey made a mistake and he thinks so too.
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I can't say it was a mistake. Mr Callahan looked to be very aware that the horse was in pain heading back to the winners circle. All of that pain for a picture? This can't be tolerated
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According to SCM he is an abuse supporter...just because he said not to feed into SCM. Doesn't make one a supporter of anything by saying don't give SCM more ammo. I think Corey made a mistake and he thinks so too.
At least he understands what gaslighting is. He’s damn good at it.
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Where was the state vet when the horse was scoring down? A horse that sore had a show some signs in the post parade if you’re sharp enough to see it.
State vet should be fired but no doubt was probably more concerned with texting his top clients/trainers to tell them what races they were blood gas testing just my opinion.
The vet was probably in the same place they were when that 2yo of Burke's this summer warmed up lame AF and then dropped dead after the wire. And the same place they were when Dream Out Loud N won the night before the Hambo 2yrs ago and came back to the WC with his amateur driver on 2 or 3 good legs. Or, as an earlier poster commented on, the horse that won the first race on the day of this event.
I don't know who is the state vet at the Big M but it's a bonafide shitshow.
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The vet was probably in the same place they were when that 2yo of Burke's this summer warmed up lame AF and then dropped dead after the wire. And the same place they were when Dream Out Loud N won the night before the Hambo 2yrs ago and came back to the WC with his amateur driver on 2 or 3 good legs. Or, as an earlier poster commented on, the horse that won the first race on the day of this event.
I don't know who is the state vet at the Big M but it's a bonafide shitshow.
I remember when the state Vet at the Meadowlands would actually stand out by the track and watch the horses warm up! Now they’re busy telling their buddies what races they’re testing for soda!
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When will SCM get back to ripping Joe and Howie a new one on a daily basis? Some of those posts were quite humorous. In the meantime, HT and Dylan continue to win races at Dover and it gets no mention.
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I remember when the state Vet at the Meadowlands would actually stand out by the track and watch the horses warm up! Now they’re busy telling their buddies what races they’re testing for soda!
I too remember the state vet doing that. If he say a questionable horse he would tell the driver to score the horse at a good pace. Sometimes he would scratch the horse. No more, now it is just a night (well paid) at the races.
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I too remember the state vet doing that. If he say a questionable horse he would tell the driver to score the horse at a good pace. Sometimes he would scratch the horse. No more, now it is just a night (well paid) at the races.
I also witnessed a state vet calling a top trainer to tell him what races they were blood gas testing.
If that trainer had a horse racing in a race that was not being tested a box of baking soda and confectionery sugar was tubed along with a win ticket for the vet.
I would never mention names because I'm not a rat bastard like that fucking bum out of Goshen.
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There is nothing more phony than a self anointed tough guy claiming to know where all the bodies are buried then, saying he is so stand up, you will never make him talk.
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It is not that bad horse was sore State vet said nothing no one with the Meadowland said any thing better then the runners who drop dead at the wire it happens in racing get use to it.
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There is nothing more phony than a self anointed tough guy claiming to know where all the bodies are buried then, saying he is so stand up, you will never make him talk.
Gaagoots can't find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight. Guy's a nitwit.
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There is nothing more phony than a self anointed tough guy claiming to know where all the bodies are buried then, saying he is so stand up, you will never make him talk.
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It is not that bad horse was sore State vet said nothing no one with the Meadowland said any thing better then the runners who drop dead at the wire it happens in racing get use to it.
It is a sad reality, but the state vet is there to help prevent it where possible, right? I did not see this horse warm up so maybe there was nothing to see and maybe it was injured during the race. But the one I referenced over the summer was clearly not right warming up. I am not a vet but I have eyeballs.
If some of the above stories are true re: vets telling trainers what races are being blood-gassed, that's a problem. Though since the supposed witness won't talk because of their alleged non-rat-bastardness, all hearsay I guess.
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It is a sad reality, but the state vet is there to help prevent it where possible, right? I did not see this horse warm up so maybe there was nothing to see and maybe it was injured during the race. But the one I referenced over the summer was clearly not right warming up. I am not a vet but I have eyeballs.
If some of the above stories are true re: vets telling trainers what races are being blood-gassed, that's a problem. Though since the supposed witness won't talk because of their alleged non-rat-bastardness, all hearsay I guess.
Hearsay? If you say so. I'm not a fucking rat like you're wandering bum out of Goshen.
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Hearsay? If you say so. I'm not a fucking rat like you're wandering bum out of Goshen.
But you shouldn't bitch about something you won't make an effort to improve. JMHO.
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But you shouldn't bitch about something you won't make an effort to improve. JMHO.
I hear you guys and you're not wrong but under full disclosure the trainer and the vet are friends of mine I can't rat out my friends sorry. I'm kind of caught between a rock and a hard place.
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any update on Caliber
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I hear you guys and you're not wrong but under full disclosure the trainer and the vet are friends of mine I can't rat out my friends sorry. I'm kind of caught between a rock and a hard place.
I met Maria in the meadowlands paddock a year ago. We had a nice talk about our trotters competing against each other at Running Aces the previous few meets there. Hers was All American N.
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Is this still an on going thread? tmbz1
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Hearsay? If you say so. I'm not a fucking rat like you're wandering bum out of Goshen.
Rats are needed to clean things up…. Most people are afraid to step up due to repercussions. I’m just going to race out the horses I have now and then consider being another SCM.
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Rats are needed to clean things up…. Most people are afraid to step up due to repercussions. I’m just going to race out the horses I have now and then consider being another SCM.
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Rats are needed to clean things up…. Most people are afraid to step up due to repercussions. I’m just going to race out the horses I have now and then consider being another SCM.
Maybe you two can start your own group? RatsRUs!
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Talk about being Overrated! Sure, Cory can win some races..Mainly when Dunn is absent, and Tim T isn't there. But he sure does make some bonehead decisions and talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time! OMG. Saw him the other night at Dover ride the rail the entire race with a 40 to 1 all the way from 7th to 3rd and decided to pull 3/4 thru the final turn and guess what happen? Yes you got it( Back stroke) Not to mention let the horse behind him up the rail to get win!
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If your going to arrest Cory, whats the delay on Hunter Biden?
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All the silly talk no one is going to jail or any where else you stupid bunch of jerks.
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Ive never been a fan of Callahan for a myriad of reasons. One of them hes a jinx.
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You cant arrest him for being STUPID, in this case.
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Anyone know the whereabouts of Caliber?
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Good question. Hopefully turned out for some R&R.
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Though shall not judge you to shall be judged. THE BOOK OF DANIEL GOD THE JUDGE
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Though shall not judge you to shall be judged. THE BOOK OF DANIEL GOD THE JUDGE
you mean the dook of a moron is the only book you know
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Good question. Hopefully turned out for some R&R.
He’s listed as NYSire eligible standing at Blue Chip. Don’t know if that means he’s retired from racing though?????
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Still no sign of Caliber since he was tortured by Callahan for a winners circle picture?
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Still no sign of Caliber since he was tortured by Callahan for a winners circle picture?
There’s this;
https://www.nysirestakes.com/backend/News/news_upload/NYSS_Stallion_Directory_2024_1730.pdf (https://www.nysirestakes.com/backend/News/news_upload/NYSS_Stallion_Directory_2024_1730.pdf)
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BOOK FULL AND CLOSE FOR ‘24
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BOOK FULL AND CLOSE FOR ‘24
This thread is about Caliber. You are talking about Cannibal.
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You are CORRECT Sir! ngc3
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This thread is about Caliber. You are talking about Cannibal.
Shit man. Hate when that happens. I need to take my own advice and “Reread It”
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Caliber qualified at Pocono on Wednesday.
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Caliber qualified at Pocono on Wednesday.
Hmmm I’d guess a quarter crack, qualified very solid from his line.
Definitely didn’t break a bone or have a tear somewhere, not enough time to heal up and get qualified.
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Hmmm I’d guess a quarter crack, qualified very solid from his line.
Definitely didn’t break a bone or have a tear somewhere, not enough time to heal up and get qualified.
I guess you're not familiar with a high nerve shockwave treatment. I've seen horses that could barely walk turn into Niatross in 48 hours.
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Good point. But lets hope the horse isnt racing on a serious tear or bone break.
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Good point. But lets hope the horse isnt racing on a serious tear or bone break.
SCM will be following up I'm sure.
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I guess you're not familiar with a high nerve shockwave treatment. I've seen horses that could barely walk turn into Niatross in 48 hours.
So the horse is always extremely lame, he just gets his shockwave treatment and is sound to race. And they gave him off two months for appearances sake?
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Pulled up dead lame after race 4 Saturday at Pocono Downs.
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Pulled up dead lame after race 4 Saturday at Pocono Downs.
Definitely racing on a tear or quarter crack. Right Admin?
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Back in the 80s, my friend co-owned a horse called Escortention with trainer Ray Flis. Almost every week he would win the 25k claimer at the Meadowlands, but in between races, he’d be standing in a bucket of ice water. He never looked lame, but he was sore except for those 2 minutes in the race.
I was made a decent score with Escortention in 1985 at Garden St--i played a $500 one way exacta and he won by a nose after being parked--the exacta paid $6-i was very young and was thrilled because I thought I lost the photo
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viva la callehad
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Francisco Del Cid thats the only Illegal on plop ngc3
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Blame the trainer that is who is wrong.