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Title: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: SAW on November 17, 2023, 02:31:30 PM
https://www.caesars.com/content/dam/empire/hhp/racing/pdfs/free-online-program/hop1117p.pdf

Hoosier Park Early Pick 5, (1st Race) Carryover of $2,326.

https://playmeadowlands.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/mxx1117p.pdf

Pick 8, (starts in the 4th race) Carryover of $3,432

Pick 6, (starts in the 8th race) Carryover of $18,334, Should be a Big Pool......... $100k+???????

Carryovers are a horse players best friend, by reducing take-out to zero or close to zero tmbz1 tmbz1

Good Luck To Alll & Post any picks..........
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 06:12:44 PM
I'll sat this about the Big M card....There should be some prices tonight.

In race 1 we get a coveted amateur race

#9 Justa rocket man...Very live on the board for a hot trainer. Yogi has cooled off driving but may be better than Tyler Miller
#6 Stone Cold Savage...should get  acovered up trip and is usually there
#8 Paprika Blue Chip...  the rest are terrible
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: Jackie Mo on November 17, 2023, 06:19:10 PM
https://www.caesars.com/content/dam/empire/hhp/racing/pdfs/free-online-program/hop1117p.pdf

Hoosier Park Early Pick 5, (1st Race) Carryover of $2,326.

https://playmeadowlands.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/mxx1117p.pdf

Pick 8, (starts in the 4th race) Carryover of $3,432

Pick 6, (starts in the 8th race) Carryover of $18,334, Should be a Big Pool......... $100k+???????

Carryovers are a horse players best friend, by reducing take-out to zero or close to zero tmbz1 tmbz1

Good Luck To Alll & Post any picks..........

Carryovers draw the attention of CAWs--so your perceived edge gets wiped out and is non-existent

there is no edge for the regular player
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: SAW on November 17, 2023, 06:26:12 PM
Good Luck Bello, also like Yogi in the1st & 5th?

Meadowlands

1st - 3 Knox the Fox 9,1,2
2nd - 7 Magritte 5,1,2
3rd - 5 Say You Do 4,6,7
4th - 6 Era of Love 1,4,8
5th - 2 Shore of Himself 3,6,7

Hoosier

1st - 5 Fox Valley Sampson 3,4,7
2nd - 5 Kassagi 2,3,4
3rd - 3
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 06:31:22 PM
Recall race 1...#8 either had broken equipment or was ready to fall down

Good luck Saw. I would love to see some other opinions tonight. These race are wide open.
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 06:35:29 PM
I'll sat this about the Big M card....There should be some prices tonight.

In race 1 we get a coveted amateur race

#9 Justa rocket man...Very live on the board for a hot trainer. Yogi has cooled off driving but may be better than Tyler Miller
#6 Stone Cold Savage...should get  acovered up trip and is usually there
#8 Paprika Blue Chip...  the rest are terrible

#9  12-1 ML goes off at 9-5 and jogs.  I'll will concede it was a dumbass ML
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 06:40:25 PM
Good Luck Bello, also like Yogi in the1st & 5th?

Meadowlands

1st - 3 Knox the Fox 9,1,2
2nd - 7 Magritte 5,1,2
3rd - 5 Say You Do 4,6,7
4th - 6 Era of Love 1,4,8
5th - 2 Shore of Himself 3,6,7

Hoosier

1st - 5 Fox Valley Sampson 3,4,7
2nd - 5 Kassagi 2,3,4
3rd - 3

Saw, you were all around this in race 1  9-1-2-3 at the big M
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
Race 2 

7 Magritte...Jammed into a very soft spot for another hot trainer
#3 Pack your bags..Pelling didnt try very hard in last weeks combacker at
#5 See you Friday...quevado again, but he would be better off using Yogi
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: PucksnHorses on November 17, 2023, 06:48:03 PM
2nd. I am going with a bomber in here #3 Pack Your Bags over 7&9
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: SAW on November 17, 2023, 06:54:09 PM
Good luck to both of you with the 3 in the 2nd long layoff since May I think he will still need this race??
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: PucksnHorses on November 17, 2023, 06:55:45 PM
Empty, took a shot in a bad field
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 06:58:44 PM
3 needs to be retired. 7 stunk as well. 5 hung, but Tyler Miller often hangs. 1 figured
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 07:10:55 PM
Race 3
6 Believer...Totall y ded on the board. Wiped out last and vs better prior.
3 Brutal Storm..dirtied up at Monti?
4 cyiuagaindk...Per but kid drives, negative but has the class

p3  346/8/247
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 07:20:22 PM
Missed the driver change on the 7. Zeron for Steve Smith, huge. 5 at 6-5 off the board. Program says he should have been 20-1. Bad tip for the suckers.. With Marcus Miller to boot.
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 07:30:26 PM
Big m race 4   this race got me dizzy. Must be why I wound up with Marcus Miller

#8  EA Audit...should like the big track if Marcus gets some cover

p8  not playing myself  8/247/3710/179/3610/38/1510/3
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 07:45:58 PM
Zeron the only real driver at the Big tonight. Schooling the guys. Amateurs are better.  Speaking of which, Race 5 another amateur race.

Big M race 5
7 Sports Advisor...Jor Lee aone of the top amateur drivers. Has a live horse here for an unkown ( by me) trainer
2 Shore of Himself...Hung for life last. toss that one.
4 Shortys Girl...plodder that needs a trip. May get one here

p3  247/3710/179

Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 08:10:29 PM
Jeez, I needed Lyons Pride last week...Pipsqueek Nicole wins for fun. Easy on a forsee tugging 80 pounds

Race 6   10 win box  3710  p4  3710/179/3610/38
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: PucksnHorses on November 17, 2023, 08:11:08 PM
#9 Hockey Hanover in the 6th
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: SAW on November 17, 2023, 08:14:33 PM
6th - 7 Chiplosive 3,9,4
7th - 9 Random Hanover 7,1,2
8th - 2 Boiler Maker 5,8,10
9th - 5 New Rules 3,4,6
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 08:37:58 PM
Race 7

9 win box 179
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: PucksnHorses on November 17, 2023, 08:39:21 PM
7th. #9 Random Hanover
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 08:58:35 PM
These amateur races are ridiculous...Neve r would play the 10. Like you need yo hit the all button in all these amateur races.
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 09:09:41 PM
ALERT  P6 Carryover   20 cent tickets

Race 8  box 3610  p6  3610/38/1510/3/28/13
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: SAW on November 17, 2023, 09:10:22 PM
These amateur races are ridiculous...Neve r would play the 10. Like you need yo hit the all button in all these amateur races.
I did not use tonight because of the 10 hole (I did 2 weeks ago LOL)........... was bet down 2 weeks ago to .70 on the dollar and had a tough trip, but has a good record for his 3-year-old campaign, definitely likes the long stretch.

Trainer/driver comment.......... "No go at all had big reason hoping lasix does the trick 10 post is a problem. Nead a half in 53 and a lot to go my way"
 
Thats gambling......... ..
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 09:35:40 PM
Another for Zeron...From a mile back...Best closing driver in the business...Some of these young drivers need to learn from Rick and stop overdriving their horses early.

Race 9
8 bad morning line...big shot
3 engblum not using his kid..may have been dirtied up at YR

P3  38/1510/3
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: Bitter Truth on November 17, 2023, 09:37:28 PM
Wonder what they could learn from Scott? 11.wp
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: SAW on November 17, 2023, 09:38:27 PM
Back-to-back winners from the 10 hole............. ...

9th race the 8 Swan Captain is taking plenty of early money off the 8-1 ML............ I dont see it but good luck to those who do..........

Slip of names Bello..... Scott not Rick
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 09:51:19 PM
6th - 7 Chiplosive 3,9,4
7th - 9 Random Hanover 7,1,2
8th - 2 Boiler Maker 5,8,10
9th - 5 New Rules 3,4,6

New rules jogged. I blew it. Cullipher often goes for class relief. I over handicapped. Much the best
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 09:58:57 PM
Wonder what they could learn from Scott? 11.wp

Well look who is lurking out there. Come on, who do you like. How about a single selection.
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 10:07:21 PM
Race 10   Pliridge horses shouldnt be overlooked

Box 1510  slight choice being the 1 but Marcus has been lost out there. What else is new. Zeron from the 10 also plainridge shipper. Good value here

p4  1510/3/28/13
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: Bitter Truth on November 17, 2023, 10:11:31 PM
Don't do M[1]..Might make an exception and 'watch' a few next week. No $$ for Gural here.
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: SAW on November 17, 2023, 10:13:41 PM
10th - 2 Strawberry Fields 3,1,8 (very tough race?)
11th - 2 Buddy Earl 3,5,1
12th - 3 Shezafreaklikeme 6,9,2
13th - 3 Celia B Money 2,5,8
Title: Re: 11-17-23 Hoosier Park & Meadowlands Carryovers
Post by: bello on November 17, 2023, 10:24:52 PM
Don't do M[1]..Might make an exception and 'watch' a few next week. No $$ for Gural here.

Let me know..I'm sure you can handicap.

Not a big m player myself. I thought tonight was a good night for value. I was correct, but no value in my pocketbook

The rest.

Race 11 3 win  p3  3/28/13

Race 12  2 win...box 28  p3  28/13/256

Race 13  box 13

Race 14   2 win box 256

Saw, thanks for indulging me. I never met a handicapping thread I didnt like ( other than canadian tracks and Hoosier)

Good luck the rest of the way

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