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Title: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on November 11, 2023, 02:12:56 AM
Overheard today that there are many trainers and a few drivers that are going to boycott Yonkers if they don't ban the trainers like the Meadowlands.  Most are tired of training and driving against the drug trainers.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: hot2trot on November 11, 2023, 03:13:55 AM
It would work.   But everyone is too much of a pussy to stand up to these criminals.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Locked in with pace on November 11, 2023, 04:10:19 AM
Yonkers will never do that and would love it if they did boycott. Plus the drivers and trainers there have a place for easy money

Another reason that Yonkers  can be use to stop racing and eventually develop the property
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: harnessplop on November 11, 2023, 05:12:13 AM
Racing needs to go..Bartlett driving for bongiorno...dowse ...per engblum....its honestly a criminal enterprise
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: sidetracker on November 11, 2023, 05:54:47 AM
It would be like the MLB umpires strike of 1999, completely misjudging their  value to the sport.  Any excuse....sorry.. ..reason to disconnect harness racing from life support would be welcomed by any casino.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 11, 2023, 06:14:01 AM
Racing needs to go..Bartlett driving for bongiorno...dowse ...per engblum....its honestly a criminal enterprise
It's organized crime in the truest sense. A sharp prosecutor could probably shut everything down via the RICO act if he or she could get solid proof.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: NV on November 11, 2023, 12:46:42 PM
It's in the works
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Harness racer on November 11, 2023, 12:49:48 PM
I said this a long time ago.  They need to enter and then scratch late.  Let the product have one or two horses every race.  But with Yonkers, there are so many shady characters they will still have many fields with 6 or so.   ngc3
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: The Exporter on November 11, 2023, 12:52:27 PM
Where is Faraldo on this action? Unless I am missing something, I don't see where the horsemen have much if any leverage. It is not like they would be cutting off the profit center. They very well maybe signing their own death warrant.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: NV on November 11, 2023, 12:55:55 PM
It's interesting because civil RICO means treble damages

Also no statute of limitations when there's an ongoing pattern

People realize the honest horsemen were the victims, they need to step up and start claiming their victims' fund
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: NV on November 11, 2023, 12:56:30 PM
The death warrant is airing tomorrow night at 7pm
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: LUCPARK on November 11, 2023, 12:57:19 PM
faraldo is a good guy and a christian

very honest  good guy family man  tmbz1
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: jupiter on November 11, 2023, 01:03:04 PM
Like Ronnie Burke says "when the circus loses a monkey, they just get another monkey". He's not going to stop entering, just get another monkey, they'd all like the chance to pick up his drives. Tell me who the first driver or trainer who will boycott.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Harness racer on November 11, 2023, 01:07:21 PM
Like Ronnie Burke says "when the circus loses a monkey, they just get another monkey". He's not going to stop entering, just get another monkey, they'd all like the chance to pick up his drives. Tell me who the first driver or trainer who will boycott.

If it happens it will be hardly noticed.  The big guns have enough to fill the box.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Stan durbread on November 11, 2023, 01:43:10 PM
Where is Faraldo on this action? Unless I am missing something, I don't see where the horsemen have much if any leverage. It is not like they would be cutting off the profit center. They very well maybe signing their own death warrant.
Faraldo main trainer is on the list. Of course his last one is in prison. Lol
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 11, 2023, 01:43:40 PM
Like Ronnie Burke says "when the circus loses a monkey, they just get another monkey". He's not going to stop entering, just get another monkey, they'd all like the chance to pick up his drives. Tell me who the first driver or trainer who will boycott.
I would say the first drivers or trainers that boycott might be the guiltiest ones. They may figure the FEDS are watching closely so why not make it look like you're on the straight and narrow by rebelling.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Harness racer on November 11, 2023, 01:47:17 PM
Won't happen or will be short lived.  People still have to eat and pay their help.  It's only hurting them.  The casino and racing board couldn't care less!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Low Groove on November 11, 2023, 02:01:35 PM
Things that'll never happen
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: talkstohisself on November 11, 2023, 02:41:20 PM
the track owner would welcome that 100%. The only way this will end the industry will have to fix itself. The owners have to be penalized; they know the trainers are cheating but want the money. When it is all done, they will move on another investment. These animals are just a commodity. It has gone to far and probably not worth the effort to repair. Greed and corruption rule sad to say.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 11, 2023, 03:35:29 PM
Yonkers may just be hoping for a walk out. So lets review the facts. #1. They dont really want to deal with the track and its issues. #2 The dirt is worth much more per sq. ft. housing more machines. #3. Its a corporate owned casino company. they have a different view.  One that precludes horseman. And last but not least did I already mention NO HORSES = MORE REVENUE.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: theokodjak26 on November 11, 2023, 04:33:25 PM
If you knew nothing about harness racing and read all these posts you would have to ask: 1) Why would anyone want to in this business? 2) How do so many criminals walk around with so few repercussions? 3) Where is the governing body and why is their heads in the sand? and finally 4) Are people crazy betting their hard earned money on this sport?
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: remington on November 11, 2023, 07:09:55 PM
It will never happen. Everybody knows what is happening and they don't want to cut their own throats. The casino owners would love it and there is an eight-billion-dollar casino coming to NY.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Stan durbread on November 11, 2023, 08:23:22 PM
I’ll believe a walk out when I see it. If you got inside information please let us know what trainers and drivers you chirping about
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: seen2much on November 11, 2023, 09:12:51 PM
If you knew nothing about harness racing and read all these posts you would have to ask: 1) Why would anyone want to in this business? 2) How do so many criminals walk around with so few repercussions? 3) Where is the governing body and why is their heads in the sand? and finally 4) Are people crazy betting their hard earned money on this sport?
tmbz1 All good points.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 11, 2023, 09:17:41 PM
If you knew nothing about harness racing and read all these posts you would have to ask: 1) Why would anyone want to in this business? 2) How do so many criminals walk around with so few repercussions? 3) Where is the governing body and why is their heads in the sand? and finally 4) Are people crazy betting their hard earned money on this sport?
I only bet half of what I used to.
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 11, 2023, 10:43:18 PM
It will never happen. Everybody knows what is happening and they don't want to cut their own throats. The casino owners would love it and there is an eight-billion-dollar casino coming to NY.

thats going into time square, deep into Manhattan
Title: Re: Yonkers Trainers & Drivers talking about walking out
Post by: harnessplop on November 12, 2023, 01:52:42 AM
Close yonkers
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