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Title: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Sugar trader on August 09, 2023, 12:22:30 AM
Let's all thank God this piece of garbage was finally removed from Monticellos card today. Meaning the jig is officially up all around. No room for this guy after this horrible report came out from Cornell. Showing multiple skull fractures to Finish Line. Hopefully this guy never touches another horse again.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: harnessplop on August 09, 2023, 01:23:39 AM
Who?
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 09, 2023, 06:35:06 AM
Let's all thank God this piece of garbage was finally removed from Monticellos card today. Meaning the jig is officially up all around. No room for this guy after this horrible report came out from Cornell. Showing multiple skull fractures to Finish Line. Hopefully this guy never touches another horse again.
Is the repprt public?
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Jctoronto on August 09, 2023, 08:28:03 AM
The man in question scheduled to drive in 1st,2nd,3rd and 6th today at Monti. If not satisfied by his 'side of story' the Monti judges must again, like yesterday, put a stop to his participation.

If anyone has anything more re: Cornell
pls let us know.
The kind of violent information posted above, if true, would be worthy of charges and a courtroom appearance. NOT to mention, if guilty, a potential disqualification from the USA. (if the guilty party has nothing more than a 'working visa' of some sort, you'd have to assume it could /would be torn up, followed by a one-way trip to border, and out.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Jctoronto on August 09, 2023, 11:16:39 AM
BOURGAULT OFF ALL DRIVES AGAIN TODAY.

Clearly, authorities in the mix.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: theokodjak26 on August 09, 2023, 11:20:58 AM
Finally the racing community has come together and not put up with this cruelty.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 09, 2023, 11:22:24 AM
The man in question scheduled to drive in 1st,2nd,3rd and 6th today at Monti. If not satisfied by his 'side of story' the Monti judges must again, like yesterday, put a stop to his participation.

If anyone has anything more re: Cornell
pls let us know.
The kind of violent information posted above, if true, would be worthy of charges and a courtroom appearance. NOT to mention, if guilty, a potential disqualification from the USA. (if the guilty party has nothing more than a 'working visa' of some sort, you'd have to assume it could /would be torn up, followed by a one-way trip to border, and out.

If this last paragraph is accurate, how does Peck remain in the US after 18 plus arrests between PA and NJ since January 2023? He should have been deported back and not allowed here, but he's still snaking his way around Cranbury NJ.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 09, 2023, 11:23:32 AM
I know a few will disagree. But, some credit for this is due SCM, who finally has a check in the right box.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Jctoronto on August 09, 2023, 11:35:46 AM
GenerationXYZ
I can only GUESS there might be dual citizenship-type 'full' privileges.
If not, your concern is fully warranted.

Alot less legal 'muscle' when you're just work 'visiting'.




Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 09, 2023, 11:49:40 AM
GenerationXYZ
I can only GUESS there might be dual citizenship-type 'full' privileges.
If not, your concern is fully warranted.

Alot less legal 'muscle' when you're just work 'visiting'.

Thank you for explaining. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: toothman on August 09, 2023, 02:02:24 PM
for action not to be taken by the racetracks would be shameful, even for head in the sand harness racing.
Good to see....
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: tumbleweed on August 09, 2023, 02:24:32 PM
If all is true this pos should be in jail for life!
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 09, 2023, 02:25:58 PM
for action not to be taken by the racetracks would be shameful, even for head in the sand harness racing.
Good to see....

Agreed, I believe this is equal to the doping violations, and needs to be addressed with the same severity if not more stringent investigation and penalty.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Passion on August 09, 2023, 02:32:06 PM
Agreed, I believe this is equal to the doping violations, and needs to be addressed with the same severity if not more stringent investigation and penalty.

It isn’t true. Horse was turned out in a paddock when it became injured.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 09, 2023, 03:07:10 PM
There are a lot of versions of what happened. Lets see what is rendered from the alleged on going investigation, if thats even accurate.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Hambletonian46 on August 09, 2023, 03:52:48 PM
It isn’t true. Horse was turned out in a paddock when it became injured.

Seems like if this was the case there would be no story here at all; horses injure themselves all of the time. Keeping in mind that there is always some potential that a story like this is BS or grossly exaggerared, the level of details reported (horse kicked or stepped on FB, and was hit on the head with a heavy object, and then immediately buried), it just doesnt seem like the odds are in favor of this innocent solution. You would also tend to think the vet would have provided more detail if it was a completely blame free situation. While occasionally we find out these stories are exaggerated or based on second or third hand accounts, it seems more often than not that what is reported turns out to be mostly accurate.

I would like to think that at some point FB or someone on his behalf presents the full version of the accident that lead to the euthanasia of this horse, or if malfeasance was involved, a swift and severe punishment is meted out publicly.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 09, 2023, 04:11:58 PM
In total agreement here.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: hot2trot on August 09, 2023, 04:46:41 PM
Finally the racing community has come together and not put up with this cruelty.

monticello tried to do absolutely nothing for a long time. seems like their hand was finally pushed.   
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 09, 2023, 07:23:11 PM
I hope that SCM is the one thats giving the push credence. Its a well need credibility win for SCM, and removal of a black eye for the track.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Balmoral buzz on August 10, 2023, 12:23:52 AM
It isn’t true. Horse was turned out in a paddock when it became injured.
Multiple skull fractures turned out in the field. Yeah sure thing newbie FB with that being your first post. You must not know horseploppers always win out.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 10, 2023, 11:37:44 AM
It isn’t true. Horse was turned out in a paddock when it became injured.

So what, did the horse get up fall again, and again to fracture its skull in multiple places? Is your skull fractured to even make the statement you did? The guy is off drives all week, and you say it isnt true? Whats he on vacation? Come on. be smarter than your statement.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 10, 2023, 12:36:06 PM
So what, did the horse get up fall again, and again to fracture its skull in multiple places? Is your skull fractured to even make the statement you did? The guy is off drives all week, and you say it isnt true? Whats he on vacation? Come on. be smarter than your statement.

What are the odds that this asshole FB is the one who made the 1 post to say it happened that way... 1/9?
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 10, 2023, 12:37:13 PM
What are the odds that this asshole FB is the one who made the 1 post to say it happened that way... 1/9?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 1-2 ? 1-1? at least someone in his camp.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on August 14, 2023, 10:29:34 PM
Have to give SCuM some more credit on this looks like he isnt kidding. https://youtube.com/watch?v=dHWlB-DW2P4&feature=share7
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: toothman on August 14, 2023, 11:26:00 PM
Have to give SCuM some more credit on this looks like he isnt kidding. https://youtube.com/watch?v=dHWlB-DW2P4&feature=share7

SCM is on the right track. Unlike racetrack judges that turn the other way, I am hopeful that true jystice will be meted out to this POS.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 15, 2023, 02:30:46 AM
I keep saying this situation is ready made for SCM. Hope he puts it to proper use
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 15, 2023, 11:50:39 AM
This is an unexcused vicious act! SCM won't let it go unsettled! This abuser must be pursued until he's behind bars! 91.jzail
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 15, 2023, 12:52:04 PM
This is an unexcused vicious act! SCM won't let it go unsettled! This abuser must be pursued until he's behind bars! 91.jzail
He will already be hiding out on the Allard farm in Quebec
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 15, 2023, 02:27:03 PM
I think Mike (SCM as you call him) deserves full credit here. That video of the horse being exhumed is heartbreaking when you think of that POS beating it within an inch of its life b4 it was euthanized by the vet.  And Mike is right that just going to the judges and the racing powers that be would have achieved nothing.

This FB needs to be put in prison and various factions need to be clued in at what he did. That is what he deserves. 


That poor horse no doubt suffered for a blow or two before it went comatose, if indeed it did. And all this because it supposedly stepped on his foot. 

Fuck that guy

Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Harness racer on August 15, 2023, 02:32:30 PM
I agree SCM was on this quick.  But stop trying to gain credit.  Doing the right thing should be credit enough.  Guy is so worried about notoriety.  You get it by doing the right thing, stop with the me, me, me bullshit.  And yes, this French Fuck needs the maximum punishment.  What kind of psycho could do that to a horse?  Guy is a fucking nut job and shouldn't be allowed to roam free!
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 15, 2023, 03:17:55 PM
ya know I have avoided commenting on this situation and of course this FB guy is one crazy bastard if he did indeed do this. reason i am commenting is it puts me in mind of something I witnessed almost 45 years ago when I was 16 and shy and very green about the game. Morning qualifiers at Foxboro. I am standing just off the racetrack where they come on and off just hanging out for a few minutes before packing up to leave. Right after the last race Dave Marshall comes riding off fuming. he starts towards the paddock leading the horse still in its equipment and sulky obviously, then suddenly stops to pick up a piece of 2x4 wood about 2 feet in length that was laying by a trash can. He spins the horse around and holding the lines in his left hand, proceeds to crack the horse with the flat of the board right smack across his forehead. he was about 6 feet away from me. I just watched in silence, mouth open too afraid to say a word. people were milling about all over the paddock inside and out. It is true he hit him once, but it was HARD. if horses see stars this one did. I swear he buckled a bit at the knees and shook his head and neck pretty violently making that sound they make with their lips. I have never scene anything like that ever again. Hated even looking at Dave Marshall's big fat face for the rest of my life. On the souls of my children, this story is 100 percent true.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Mailbox Money on August 15, 2023, 09:59:23 PM
One can only pray that some day it will happen to them! Animal abusers tend to be women beaters also. They think they are tough but only abuse those who won't or can't fight back!
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Gaagoots on August 15, 2023, 10:04:34 PM
I know I’ve been very critical of him, but I have to thank Mike Petrelli for his effort in this matter!

There’s nothing worse than a fucking horse killer. This cocksucker should have his nuts cut out and stuffed in his mouth! 
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: The Exporter on August 16, 2023, 05:55:57 AM
ya know I have avoided commenting on this situation and of course this FB guy is one crazy bastard if he did indeed do this. reason i am commenting is it puts me in mind of something I witnessed almost 45 years ago when I was 16 and shy and very green about the game. Morning qualifiers at Foxboro. I am standing just off the racetrack where they come on and off just hanging out for a few minutes before packing up to leave. Right after the last race Dave Marshall comes riding off fuming. he starts towards the paddock leading the horse still in its equipment and sulky obviously, then suddenly stops to pick up a piece of 2x4 wood about 2 feet in length that was laying by a trash can. He spins the horse around and holding the lines in his left hand, proceeds to crack the horse with the flat of the board right smack across his forehead. he was about 6 feet away from me. I just watched in silence, mouth open too afraid to say a word. people were milling about all over the paddock inside and out. It is true he hit him once, but it was HARD. if horses see stars this one did. I swear he buckled a bit at the knees and shook his head and neck pretty violently making that sound they make with their lips. I have never scene anything like that ever again. Hated even looking at Dave Marshall's big fat face for the rest of my life. On the souls of my children, this story is 100 percent true.
Well, Dave inherited his fathers estate valued at more than a million. Shortly after, he drove off the road and died in a 1 car accident. 
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 16, 2023, 06:01:21 AM
Ok, I do know he passed away several years ago. Probably alcohol related. He had the "drunk's nose". Not sure what your point is. Are you saying Karma caught up?
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 16, 2023, 06:04:34 AM
I guess you are saying he didn't live to enjoy it. Sorry, if i sounded harsh towards you in my previous post tmbz1
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 16, 2023, 08:15:14 AM
SCM is due a lot of credit in bringing this situation to the right light. Lets hope this gives him the platform to do things the right way going forward. Picking battles that matter, and not the fodder on here thats irrelevant. Especially any commentary or falsified observations by Calgoon.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: The Exporter on August 16, 2023, 08:43:51 AM
I guess you are saying he didn't live to enjoy it. Sorry, if i sounded harsh towards you in my previous post tmbz1
No judgment here. Yes, karma.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Superfecta on August 16, 2023, 11:35:47 AM
The guy was shit and the guy that bet for him at Monti was a prick too. Gotta love the karma.
Title: Re: Monticello Moves Slowly but Swiftly on FB
Post by: Passion on August 24, 2023, 06:45:52 PM
So what, did the horse get up fall again, and again to fracture its skull in multiple places? Is your skull fractured to even make the statement you did? The guy is off drives all week, and you say it isnt true? Whats he on vacation? Come on. be smarter than your statement.

Oh what I stated is a fact, make no doubt.
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