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Title: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Benita S on July 09, 2023, 02:56:36 PM
my husband and i have owned, drove and trained horses at every racetrack  in illinois for over 51 years. we trained many big stakes horses and won 7 supernight races during our careers. I was asked to sign up on horseplop and make this post because a group of us local springfield horseman and women are fed up with these lowlife loser horsemen who flood the springfield fairgrounds every year around this time looking for free stall rent. we are here year round and we PAY for our stalls so why do these lowlife horseman think they can come here now and get free stalls while we have to pay? to make it worse their horses look like they are plow horses and shouldn't even be racing. you illinois bustouts know who you are since so there is all talk on fridays when we raced a morning and afternoon card. if you need free stalls then you shouldnt be in the business. take you 2 or 3 horses and go to the county fairs or PAY for stalls like we do. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Go race at the county fairs and get the hell out of here and stop complaining about everything. If you dont like it then come and talk to us.  Tom & Benita
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Calhoun on July 09, 2023, 03:31:46 PM
Thanks, Benita.

On behalf of Plop Management, welcome.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 09, 2023, 04:47:32 PM
No way would the Benita I know talk that way, and never on a puplic forum.
51 years ago she was 8 years old.
Someone is playing a dirty trick.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 09, 2023, 04:59:34 PM
This post is the same writing style as the Rick Dane post of a few minuites later.
I think the same person posted both.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Foxy Jacob on July 09, 2023, 05:05:47 PM
This post is the same writing style as the Rick Dane post of a few minuites later.
I think the same person posted both.
fuck you. I have no clue who benita is.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 09, 2023, 05:12:24 PM
fuck you. I have no clue who benita is.
Rick or Kim would for sure know Benita!
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Kole Hanover on July 09, 2023, 05:17:44 PM
my husband and i have owned, drove and trained horses at every racetrack  in illinois for over 51 years. we trained many big stakes horses and won 7 supernight races during our careers. I was asked to sign up on horseplop and make this post because a group of us local springfield horseman and women are fed up with these lowlife loser horsemen who flood the springfield fairgrounds every year around this time looking for free stall rent. we are here year round and we PAY for our stalls so why do these lowlife horseman think they can come here now and get free stalls while we have to pay? to make it worse their horses look like they are plow horses and shouldn't even be racing. you illinois bustouts know who you are since so there is all talk on fridays when we raced a morning and afternoon card. if you need free stalls then you shouldnt be in the business. take you 2 or 3 horses and go to the county fairs or PAY for stalls like we do. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Go race at the county fairs and get the hell out of here and stop complaining about everything. If you dont like it then come and talk to us.  Tom & Benita



 Sounds like they're already at the fairs
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on July 09, 2023, 05:38:52 PM
SIMMONS ALWAYS HAVE BEEN GOOD PEOPLE. BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHY COME HERE AND BITCH AND MOAN EVEN IT IS YOU BENITA OR NOT? TELL WHOEVER IT IS THATS BOTHERING YOU TO THERE FACE AND SCREW IT. ILLINOIS RACING IS SO FAR GONE I HAVE NO CLUE WHY ANYONE WOULD WAANT TO RACE THERE OR EVEN GO TO SPRINGFIELD. ILLINOIS IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF HARNESS RACING.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Redacidsucks on July 09, 2023, 06:11:39 PM
She’s talking about people like Steve Searle, Don Ray, Doug Graham and Ivar Hygstrom who were all thrown out of Hoosier for free loading stalls and never racing too much but taking the free stalls. I didn’t know Springfield charged for stalls though?
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: hasbeen on July 09, 2023, 06:13:13 PM
Didn't Tom Simmons pull a buck knife on someone at the fair years ago? Stabby Simmons is what Duke called him.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Redacidsucks on July 09, 2023, 06:21:33 PM
Does Tom Simmons really exist? I’ve never seen the man? Benita is the only one I’ve ever seen come to Hoosier when the name Tom Simmons has one in to race here? She doesn’t race very many and always has a big goofy looking guy with her like her shadow that follows her around like a puppy dog so I thought that was Tom Simmons but I was told no. His name is Tom Kumas or something like that? The way they carried on with each other I thought that was her husband Tom? But I’ve never seen Tom Simmons here at Hoosier in the 10 years I’ve been racing here.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 09, 2023, 06:27:32 PM
Benita was always on the move st FP. She was even able to get John Reese’s leg straight...... well his middle leg. 😂
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 09, 2023, 06:30:29 PM
Rick or Kim would for sure know Benita!
I don’t know where you been but rick Dane is locked away in prison in upstate New York. He ratted on a bunch of of horsemen looking to keep his own ass safe but no way was the judge gonna let him walk. Kim is a good person and doing good with her horses at Hoosier.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 09, 2023, 06:34:28 PM
She’s talking about people like Steve Searle, Don Ray, Doug Graham and Ivar Hygstrom who were all thrown out of Hoosier for free loading stalls and never racing too much but taking the free stalls. I didn’t know Springfield charged for stalls though?
If Benita is saying that about those guys she definitely has a point. When in the fuck is the last time any of those guys won a race? Nothing in life is free. Pay up guys.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 09, 2023, 06:46:50 PM
I don’t know where you been but rick Dane is locked away in prison in upstate New York. He ratted on a bunch of of horsemen looking to keep his own ass safe but no way was the judge gonna let him walk. Kim is a good person and doing good with her horses at Hoosier.
I know.
That is why I question who is posting under his name.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 09, 2023, 09:10:42 PM
This post is the same writing style as the Rick Dane post of a few minuites later.
I think the same person posted both.
Look at the sentence structure. Long run on sentences with half starting with a capital and half not.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 09, 2023, 09:17:29 PM
No way would the Benita I know talk that way, and never on a puplic forum.
51 years ago she was 8 years old.
Someone is playing a dirty trick.
Who ever is posting wants us to believe Benita trained with her husband for 51 years, but Benita was born in 1964 59 years ago.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 09, 2023, 09:58:32 PM
Well I don’t know if it’s benita but Tom sure has been in the business probably that long or maybe even longer. They have to have been in Springfield since the 80’s so maybe the timeline is right or close. But when I think about it, who in the fuck would want to say they’re Benita or Tom if they aren’t? Maybe another Springfield hillbilly trying to start trouble?  tmbz1
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Redacidsucks on July 10, 2023, 01:06:26 PM
99% chance it’s Benita. She’s always complaining about the fairgrounds when she’s down at Hoosier racing. Saying how bad the track is and how they close it and make them use a short 1/2 mile track and how the stalls flood and people show up there and steal things? I’ve never once seen Tom Simmons here at Hoosier racing any horse in 10 years I been here. Only Benita.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Yonkers1A on July 10, 2023, 01:17:54 PM
fuck you. I have no clue who benita is.

I hope you got permission from the Warden to post in Horseplop
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 10, 2023, 01:54:27 PM
99% chance it’s Benita. She’s always complaining about the fairgrounds when she’s down at Hoosier racing. Saying how bad the track is and how they close it and make them use a short 1/2 mile track and how the stalls flood and people show up there and steal things? I’ve never once seen Tom Simmons here at Hoosier racing any horse in 10 years I been here. Only Benita.
IMHO
Is she so foolish as
to post under her own name?
No way to run a puplic stable!
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Ivarh on July 10, 2023, 06:43:38 PM
She’s talking about people like Steve Searle, Don Ray, Doug Graham and Ivar Hygstrom who were all thrown out of Hoosier for free loading stalls and never racing too much but taking the free stalls. I didn’t know Springfield charged for stalls though?

Sorry, I have never been thrown out of a track.  Really sad people hide behind screen names. 
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 10, 2023, 07:03:15 PM
Its probably Senator Potatoes going through is TRANSformstion to becoming a bigger woman than he was. Benita is his new name.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 10, 2023, 07:43:32 PM
Its probably Senator Potatoes going through is TRANSformstion to becoming a bigger woman than he was. Benita is his new name.
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 I know for sure that the Simmons family has been at the Springfield fairgrounds and Doug graham and Searle have always been freeloaders. That’s sad tho that people in Illinois are that broke that they need a free stall. Smh
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Redacidsucks on July 10, 2023, 11:06:37 PM
Sorry, I have never been thrown out of a track.  Really sad people hide behind screen names.

You were Ivar. Stop it. You know the incident you had at Hoosier with Peine when you used your ship in stalls and left them dirty and didn’t clean them and when Hoosier sent you a bill you through a fit and refused to pay and now you cannot have stalls til it’s paid and you had to use Essig to get your rats in here last year and this year cuz essig is at the farm you couldn’t come and had to use Angie Coleman to get raced at the Meadows.Stop the bullshit with the screen names.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on July 11, 2023, 12:23:18 PM
HEY BENETIA IF YOU DON'T WANT DOUG GRAHAM AND SEARLE AND IVAR GETTING THE FREE STALLS THEN WHY DO YOU EVEN TALK TO THEM? IVAR DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THE GUY HAS HORSES HE CAN RACE. NOW GRAHAM, THATS A REALLY BAD NAME IN HARNESS RACING. DIDNT DOUG GRAHAM GET BARRED FOR DRUGGING HORSES WITH SUBLIMAZE IN THE 70'S. THERE IS A WHOLE FAMILY OF GRAHAMS IN SALEM ILLINOIS WHO CHEAT EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. DOUG GRAHAM WORKS FOR OTHER REAL TRAINERS AND STEALS FEED AND EQUIPMENT SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR HIM. SEARLE HAS BEEN A ZERO FOR YEARS AND DONT KNOW THE FRONT OF A HORSE FROM THE BACK OF ONE. ONLY REASON WHY SEARLE HAS HORSES IS BECAUSE ROBIN LIKES HIM AND HE TRAINS FLACCOS HORSES FOR FREE.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 11, 2023, 12:51:17 PM
HEY BENETIA IF YOU DON'T WANT DOUG GRAHAM AND SEARLE AND IVAR GETTING THE FREE STALLS THEN WHY DO YOU EVEN TALK TO THEM? IVAR DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THE GUY HAS HORSES HE CAN RACE. NOW GRAHAM, THATS A REALLY BAD NAME IN HARNESS RACING. DIDNT DOUG GRAHAM GET BARRED FOR DRUGGING HORSES WITH SUBLIMAZE IN THE 70'S. THERE IS A WHOLE FAMILY OF GRAHAMS IN SALEM ILLINOIS WHO CHEAT EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. DOUG GRAHAM WORKS FOR OTHER REAL TRAINERS AND STEALS FEED AND EQUIPMENT SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR HIM. SEARLE HAS BEEN A ZERO FOR YEARS AND DONT KNOW THE FRONT OF A HORSE FROM THE BACK OF ONE. ONLY REASON WHY SEARLE HAS HORSES IS BECAUSE ROBIN LIKES HIM AND HE TRAINS FLACCOS HORSES FOR FREE.
It was Jerry Graham that was set down for many sublimaze positives, but with enough money and lawyers he got reinstated.

My friend , You are totally wrong about Steve Searle!
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on July 11, 2023, 01:04:22 PM
It was Jerry Graham that was set down for many sublimaze positives, but with enough money and lawyers he got reinstated.

My friend , You are totally wrong about Steve Searle!
YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT JERRY BUT THAT WHOLE GRAHAM FAMILY HAS A BAD NAME IN CHEATING ILLINOIS HARNESS RACING. AT LEAST THAT WAS HOW PHIL LANGLEY ALWAYS PUT IT.
AND OK, PROVE ME WRONG ABOUT STEVE SEARLE? WHAT HAS THAT GUY EVER DONE IN ILLINOIS RACING THAT WAS BREATH TAKING. WIN 20 RACES AT QUAD CITY DOWNS? HIS DAD JOHN WAS A PROVEN CHEAT TOO. ALL OF THESE GUYS WHO BENITIA IS BITCHING ABOUT TRYING TO GET FREE STALL RENT SHE IS RIGHT ON ABOUT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IVAR. HE HAS MONEY TO PAY HIS WAY.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 11, 2023, 02:23:18 PM
HIS DAD JOHN WAS A PROVEN CHEAT TOO.
AH come on now.
Do you have to speak bad of the dead.
Hub Rail Johnny was a good friend of mine.
I guess now we would have to call him Pylon Johnny.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 11, 2023, 02:43:22 PM
NOW GRAHAM, THATS A REALLY BAD NAME IN HARNESS RACING. DIDNT DOUG GRAHAM GET BARRED FOR DRUGGING HORSES WITH SUBLIMAZE IN THE 70'S. THERE IS A WHOLE FAMILY OF GRAHAMS IN SALEM ILLINOIS WHO CHEAT
As you know I am an old man and easily confused.
On the IL. trainers thread you listed Jerry as the real deal.
So what is it a cheat or the real deal?
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 11, 2023, 02:55:19 PM
Is it not strange that poster Benita S has not come on to explain herself.
She (or whoever) has made only one post, and has only been logged on for a total of 12 minutes.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on July 11, 2023, 03:26:05 PM
As you know I am an old man and easily confused.
On the IL. trainers thread you listed Jerry as the real deal.
So what is it a cheat or the real deal?
HE DID GOOD AND HAD REALLY WELL BRED HORSES FROM GO. BUT AFTER I FOUND OUT GULLIVER AND SMASHING DON AND GOOSE FILTER WON ALL OF THOSE RACES THEN I KNEW IT WASNT THE HORSEMANSHIP. BUT JERRY AND TOM WERE GOOD TRAINERS ITS JUST THAT THEY CHEATED. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE YOU SHOULD OF ASKED GENE WASZAK
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 11, 2023, 04:01:22 PM
Oh I believe!
I raced against all the horses you named plus all the Romanlines.
One, two, three in the Cardinal all high on sublimaze.
Roman Joe, Roman Dasher, and I forgot the name of  third.
Jerry, Tom, and Jim Dolbee driving.
When they started tessting for sublimaze The Graham boys were out of business.
Then along came Little Joe Anderson with an all new chemistry set.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on July 11, 2023, 04:03:32 PM
Is it not strange that poster Benita S has not come on to explain herself.
She (or whoever) has made only one post, and has only been logged on for a total of 12 minutes.
IM NOT SURE WHAT TO MAKE OF THAT OTHER THEN MAYBE SHE STARTED A SHIT POST AND DOESNT WANT TO LOG BACK ON AND EXPLAIN THINGS.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 11, 2023, 04:06:05 PM
IM NOT SURE WHAT TO MAKE OF THAT OTHER THEN MAYBE SHE STARTED A SHIT POST AND DOESNT WANT TO LOG BACK ON AND EXPLAIN THINGS.
I agree
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 11, 2023, 07:44:58 PM
Benita has no room to speak bad of anyone. She moved around quick and if you don’t believe me, John Reese and Larry stalbaum could show you pics of her in action.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on July 12, 2023, 03:12:30 PM
I agree
PROBABLY JUST BENITA SOUNDING OFF CAUSE THESE GUYS PROBABLY STOLE SOMETHING FROM THEIR BARN OR THEY DID SOMETHING TO PISS HER OFF. LOL ITS ONE REASON WHY IVE ALWAYS LIKED HORSEPLOP. A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK YOUR MIND AND FUCK IT ALL. LOL
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 12, 2023, 10:04:21 PM
Oh I believe!
I raced against all the horses you named plus all the Romanlines.
One, two, three in the Cardinal all high on sublimaze.
Roman Joe, Roman Dasher, and I forgot the name of  third.
Jerry, Tom, and Jim Dolbee driving.
When they started tessting for sublimaze The Graham boys were out of business.
Then along came Little Joe Anderson with an all new chemistry set.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Joe Anderson the pharmacist, not conditioner.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on July 12, 2023, 11:15:33 PM
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Joe Anderson the pharmacist, not conditioner.
LITTLE JOE ANDERSON WAS REALLY GOOD IF YOU LISTED HIM TO CATCH DRIVE YOUR HORSE AND THEN TELL THE TRAINER HES NO GOOD. THE NEXT DAY HE WOULD CALL THE OWNER AND SAY HEY I CAN MAKE YOU A LOT OF MONEY IF YOU GIVE ME THAT HORSE TO TRAIN. ALL OF THAT SHIT IS COMING BACK TO HIM NOW.
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Calhoun on July 13, 2023, 04:23:37 AM
Joe Anderson = All Time Legend.

Fact
Title: Re: attention to all of you springfield illinois horsepeople
Post by: Bernie Madoff on July 13, 2023, 06:16:30 AM
Joe Anderson = All Time Legend.

Fact



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