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Title: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: SPREE2015 on September 01, 2020, 09:55:24 AM
THE FUTURE OF ILLINOIS HARNESS RACING SEEMS A BIT CONFUSING!!!!
ONLY HAWTHORNE REMAINS AVAILABLE FOR 2021 . WITH ARLINGTON APPARENTLY CLOSING . ANY IDEA WHAT HARNESS RACING DATES ARE ?????
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: LUCPARK on September 01, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
dates come out mid sept

look for hawthorne to race mid may thur mid sept for harness

the rest  tbreds

they supposed to have new track open in dec of 21

I doubt it

Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 10:08:10 AM
While a sale takes place before before racing dates. Would hate to make that judgement call buying 2 yr olds with the possibility of no summer dates. Should anyone be surprised it is IL horse racing and it's been a 25 yr plus cluster while the last decade applying the hammer to the nail. Slow and painful.
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 10:50:00 AM
If no Arlington why would harness get summer dates? Careys aren't going to let winter/spring thoroughbred horses race then leave to another state to come back in the fall? Yeah that's not happening. Carey family has owned this track since 1909 they will not be sticking it to the thoroughbred horsemen. Along with messing up a handle that is better for the track.
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: swoodall on September 01, 2020, 02:54:06 PM
I owned and bred my horses 24 years too soon. angbk

My also rans would be undefeated with today's rats. 11.wp

Finish in 53 or 52 and change today you win by 20. 11.wp

I really don't think Hawthorne's surface is any slower than it was 18-20 years ago. 87xc.2
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 02:58:31 PM
It's odd the two yr old colt trotters haven't broken two minutes yet
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: swoodall on September 01, 2020, 03:03:45 PM
If no Arlington why would harness get summer dates? Careys aren't going to let winter/spring thoroughbred horses race then leave to another state to come back in the fall? Yeah that's not happening. Carey family has owned this track since 1909 they will not be sticking it to the thoroughbred horsemen. Along with messing up a handle that is better for the track.


I see the worst case scenario playing out. 91zxa.1

1.) No new track.
2.) T-Breds only at Hawthorne.
3.) Harness demoted to Fairmount for Spring/Summer meet. :1
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: LUCPARK on September 01, 2020, 03:04:20 PM
It's odd the two yr old colt trotters haven't broken two minutes yet

DO YOU SEE WHOM THEIR BRED TO

NOTHIN MARES

WHAT DID THEY EXPECT

THE BABY GAME HAS UP ILL BREEDERS

WALKER STILL BREEDING TO MARES I BOUGHT 14 YRS AGO

NO REPLACEMENTS WITH QUALITY MARES

 tmbz1
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: SPREE2015 on September 02, 2020, 10:45:06 AM
GUESSING HOOSIER WILL BE FILLED WITH ILLINOIS TRAINED HORSES IN 3 WEEKS . ALREADY LOADED WITH HORSES FROM ILLINOIS HERE IN INDIANA.
TOUGHER TO GET IN THEN EVER .....
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: swoodall on September 02, 2020, 02:31:01 PM
GUESSING HOOSIER WILL BE FILLED WITH ILLINOIS TRAINED HORSES IN 3 WEEKS . ALREADY LOADED WITH HORSES FROM ILLINOIS HERE IN INDIANA.
TOUGHER TO GET IN THEN EVER .....



You can see the increase in Illinois horses at Hoosier over the last month which I really don't understand.

Hoosier has way more stiffer competition to get a check much less win a race.

Hawthorne has shorter fields and weaker horses. tmbz1

Why wouldn't these trainers ride Hawthorne out to the end and make as much purse money as they can?

Leaving Hawthorne ensures their rats of less income and harder miles on those sore joints. 87xc.2

I guess if you can get away with more cheating at Hoosier than Hoosier is the place to be. 77z.chf 91.jzail
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: Fatboy on September 02, 2020, 02:37:11 PM


You can see the increase in Illinois horses at Hoosier over the last month which I really don't understand.

Hoosier has way more stiffer competition to get a check much less win a race.

Hawthorne has shorter fields and weaker horses. tmbz1

Why wouldn't these trainers ride Hawthorne out to the end and make as much purse money as they can?

Leaving Hawthorne ensures their rats of less income and harder miles on those sore joints. 87xc.2

I guess if you can get away with more cheating at Hoosier than Hoosier is the place to be. 77z.chf 91.jzail
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  When Illinois racing is done, are you gone too?
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: cigar on September 02, 2020, 05:07:23 PM
Swoodall has been gone for years ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: SPREE2015 on September 02, 2020, 10:01:23 PM
ACTUALLY A FEW TRAINERS LIKE HERRARA GILERMAN HAVE DONE WELL AT HOOSIER
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: cigar on September 02, 2020, 10:14:30 PM
ACTUALLY A FEW TRAINERS LIKE HERRARA GILERMAN HAVE DONE WELL AT HOOSIER
Gilerman has 0 starts in Indiana all year  ngc3
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: Dingus on September 02, 2020, 10:30:26 PM
Gilerman has 0 starts in Indiana all year  ngc3

Undefeated!
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: cigar on September 02, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
Or winless  ngc3
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: LUCPARK on September 03, 2020, 09:30:24 AM
ACTUALLY A FEW TRAINERS LIKE HERRARA GILERMAN HAVE DONE WELL AT HOOSIER

herrara has low level claimers  and has been racin the same
bunch of nothins for last 5 yrs,

low level ride the rail nothins..

stop it,, ngc3 ngc3

nothville soon tmbz1
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: swoodall on September 03, 2020, 09:36:00 AM
Gilerman has 0 starts in Indiana all year  ngc3



Why don't you go to Hoosier? tmbz1

You can milkshake them right in the paddock next to Bowermaster and no one will care. 77z.chf 91zxa.1
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on September 03, 2020, 10:13:41 AM
Don't RIP other guys stock, they don't rip you, you Benedict Arnold.
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: cigar on September 03, 2020, 12:41:35 PM


Why don't you go to Hoosier? tmbz1

You can milkshake them right in the paddock next to Bowermaster and no one will care. 77z.chf 91zxa.1
tmbz1 I’m there Steve as long as you come along

What kind of milf do you use Steve?
Chocolate
2%
Low fat?????????
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: SPREE2015 on September 04, 2020, 10:17:30 PM
Gilerman has 0 starts in Indiana all year  ngc3

CIGAR
THEN WHO DID I TALK TO IN THE PADDOCK
MODEL RACED HUGE
HUGE EXACTA TOO
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: POOLSHARK on September 04, 2020, 11:24:55 PM
THINK GILERMAN LOST HORSES TO HERERRA
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: swoodall on September 04, 2020, 11:57:52 PM
tmbz1 I’m there Steve as long as you come along

What kind of milf do you use Steve?
Chocolate
2%
Low fat?????????


2%

Gotta watch the figure. 84zac.1 ngc3
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: hasbeen on September 05, 2020, 12:17:22 PM
geno gillermen too cheap to use milkshake. he goes the old tony morgan/carl porcelli route and buy a gallon of bleach at the dollar store...then still loses 90 in a row because he barely knows which end of a horse is which. only thing worse is his pathetic handicapping. couldn't pick a winner in a walkover.

fact...legit...10 0%
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: SPREE2015 on September 05, 2020, 11:18:43 PM
geno gillermen too cheap to use milkshake. he goes the old tony morgan/carl porcelli route and buy a gallon of bleach at the dollar store...then still loses 90 in a row because he barely knows which end of a horse is which. only thing worse is his pathetic handicapping. couldn't pick a winner in a walkover.

fact...legit...10 0%

Are you high????
Gilerman has won races at hawthorne!!!!!
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 06, 2020, 12:15:23 AM
Wins races ,,,plus seems like an ok guy
Title: Re: ILLINOIS ONLY 9 DAYS OF RACING LEFT
Post by: Winners Win on September 06, 2020, 08:43:43 PM
Wins races ,,,plus seems like an ok guy

He is a real good guy and wins his fair share.
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