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Title: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: Fair is fair on January 16, 2019, 05:46:16 PM
Lp had zero positives at the time if his lynching. Burke is involved in every scandal. Oxycodone at meadows. Betamethazone at meadows, glaucine ny, tco2 that changes all the integrity rules and only gets 15 days. Now class 3 in ohio...  and gets a slap on the wrist and gets off without real penalty how does the industry allow this to happen?
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: PIGLAND on January 16, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
racing doesnt need burk
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: silent one on January 16, 2019, 06:10:33 PM
Another reason why harness racing deserves to die. Pena, deservedly so, was run out by going after his vet's records. Has any state regulatory agency , OR that bastion of integrity, Jeff Gural gone after Burke's, Allard's, Miller's vet records? As to the answer to the question posed, there is a difference between the two. One is white, the other is Latino, they both are scum.


     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: Bernie Madoff on January 16, 2019, 06:13:12 PM
Brown and white.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: kantseeback on January 16, 2019, 06:32:27 PM
ONE IS DIRTY BURRITO
THE OTHER ONE IS CLEAN SPUD
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: TheGrimReaper on January 16, 2019, 06:54:10 PM
Immigrant vs  Plain white trash....both with cheating cash
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: Frank the Zipper on January 16, 2019, 06:57:33 PM
You guys are cruel.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: Bernie Madoff on January 16, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
You guys are cruel.






But truthful.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: viking55 on January 16, 2019, 07:29:34 PM
Burke trains for gural.  Pena used to demolish gural owned horses. Pena won with just about any horse. gural doesn't like having HIS horses lose. ESPECIALLY AT HIS OWN TRACK.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: carl baldwin on January 16, 2019, 07:32:38 PM
Brown and white.
Burke has White Privilege.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: HornbyDuke on January 16, 2019, 07:39:17 PM
Burke is just  greedy.

Pena was way too greedy.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: Fair is fair on January 16, 2019, 08:12:43 PM
All and all FAIR IS NOOOOT FAIR
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: bond on January 17, 2019, 09:11:01 AM
Edsachary and if slime like HT was as good as the headlines for getting things overturned then he would take on Pena and get him back racing because this whole thing is a flagrant violation of justice with many people benefiting Pena being suspended.

 ngc3 Iceman sorry my friend-you have this ALL wrong!

Lou Pena hasnt missed a day-hes fine. Ruiz+ty Pena=Lou

The injustice comes from the fact that ONLY Lou had his Vet records checked-Not Allard,Burke,Banca,didomenico,Oakes,Millers etc.

Lou DID break the rules 1600 times by stacking and going inside withdrawal times -so he deserved punishment IMHO-he pissed off the wrong people by shoving it in everyone's faces.

What I also found amazing-nothing happened to the Vet whose records were seized and showed the discrepancies-so who did the actual injecting? Lou or the Vet?

Surely if the Vet KNEW what Lou was doing -he would have been complicit and faced disciplinary action--did he??  wouldnt you then want to see other trainers this Vet was treating to see if they were doing the same thing??






Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: Calhoun on January 17, 2019, 10:47:21 AM
Bond my post was a mirror view of what the general public not in the game would be thinking. The general public would read Pena cheated and yes he did and then you have Burke who also cheated and again yes he did but they ask themselves why one gets the boot and the other a slap on the wrist. And this is why the industry is in the toilet in the eyes of the public because the industry is corrupt and the game is rigged and that's on us the industry, we did nothing.
Please stop trying to sound like you're some industry insider or expert. 

You're not.

FFS, you spent Christmas Eve reading all of Calhoun's posts with a few other family-less old sods.

Again, please stop.  It's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: The Exporter on January 17, 2019, 11:29:51 AM
The whole game is corrupt and, unwritten by taxpayers.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: STEVE LEITA on January 17, 2019, 05:11:34 PM
Whats the difference between pena and burke?

PENA IS A DIRTY ILLEGAL MEXICAN AND BURKE IS A ROTTEN FILTHY JEW.  NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE ACTUALLY.

SL
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: viking55 on January 18, 2019, 09:03:48 AM
ngc3 Iceman sorry my friend-you have this ALL wrong!

What I also found amazing-nothing happened to the Vet whose records were seized and showed the discrepancies-so who did the actual injecting? Lou or the Vet?

Surely if the Vet KNEW what Lou was doing -he would have been complicit and faced disciplinary action--did he??  wouldnt you then want to see other trainers this Vet was treating to see if they were doing the same thing??

They got EXACTLY WHO THEY WANTED to get. They didn't care about that vet or ANY other vet. I know someone who tried to get information on whether ANY other vets records were checked and any results were found. OR if any other trainers records were even checked. He even went the FOI requests route. He was told that ALL of that information was "a continuing investigation" and NOTHING would be released. Standard fare when they don't want something getting out. As long as it's "continuing" they don't have to release anything.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between pena and burke?
Post by: bond on January 18, 2019, 09:58:24 AM
They got EXACTLY WHO THEY WANTED to get. They didn't care about that vet or ANY other vet. I know someone who tried to get information on whether ANY other vets records were checked and any results were found. OR if any other trainers records were even checked. He even went the FOI requests route. He was told that ALL of that information was "a continuing investigation" and NOTHING would be released. Standard fare when they don't want something getting out. As long as it's "continuing" they don't have to release anything.

Very interesting Viking!  Soooo-if the Vet was "excused" IMHO-there is something very wrong about that. I would form the opinion that Vets are given information about drug testing procedures that ONLY they are privy to-and that certain people know about this and use it-so if you "break" this secret covenant the hammer comes down. Lou was rubbing it in everyones face as he was part of this select group who knew how to "beat" the system and broke the covenant.
Its all adding up--the fight to ban testing for steroids,clenbuterol,etc-then also go to extremes NOT to have "out of Competition testing".
IMHO-it would take a person(commissioner) about 5 minutes to find out who is behind all this BS-and root them all out.
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