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Title: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: lesstired on October 16, 2018, 08:39:26 PM
I can't scratch my ass ......


Actually used to win some decent $$ at YR and RR years back.....


I cannot handicap anymore.....I am real bad......


Doesn't matter if I bet $2 or $200      cannot win.....


virtually stopped wagering....


Once they put the passing lane in.... it was all over for me.....


and my annual handle went from approx $100k -200k to    under 10k


I cannot win....so why bet......?


after u guys tell me how bad I suck.....tell me how you have done....


and if u actually can win.....what angle(s) do u use.......
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: PIGLAND on October 16, 2018, 08:43:13 PM
very tough these days ,betting fewer and fewer races as most get over bet
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: lesstired on October 16, 2018, 08:52:34 PM
I used to be a speed handicapper at Yonkers....when they had a hub rail....



and the drivers could actually back the half down a bit and u would actually have a decent chance to win at  5-1 , 6-1, 10-1 odds....


Now even when u are 3-5....the pock ricket just comes up the rail....and the

banked turn gives the horse on the outside a slingshot effect....


You are usually dead wood......


I cannot see why drivers even cut the mile at YR....


I have basically given up harness wagering.....fun to watch....


but I cannot pick the winner...unless u give me 1 thru 5   ...maybe I would


have  a shot......


and they still take out 20% or more from the win pool.....


I guess they have alot of suckers out there willing to throw their $$ away.


Total waste of time.....


Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: LUCPARK on October 16, 2018, 08:55:11 PM
Stop betting

Watch a few nights nights

Relax.  It will come back to you with.  Ease tmbz1
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: dinkadoo on October 16, 2018, 08:57:30 PM
I had my first good hit on a cheap race at Red Mile --- $1700 tri for a dollar ticket... One of those oddities, I was hoping for $600....

Tough to nail big score in harness racing.... pools, even at the Meds, are not that big.... I have played more runners at the big tracks where they handle the Meds entire card in one race. Caught a couple good paying pick 4's, difference when a harness track has a guaranteed 10k pool in pick four compared to the runners that may have a 250k guranteed pool.

Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: HornbyDuke on October 16, 2018, 09:19:49 PM
I wager almost only on the big m and mohawk. I only wager win bets on any half mile or 5/8 in the rare instance I play any of those. The inner posts have too much of an advantage. When I do play a win wager at 1/2 miles it's almost always an angle related to a trainer.

I've hit some big scores for .20 p5 and p4's at mohawk. A few in the 5 k range. It's tough. If you have an angle on 1 horse I would use that horse and spread as deep as you can afford in other races.

This is entertainment for me though. I'm not seeing myself with a positive roi at yr end.
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: The Human Anchor on October 16, 2018, 09:38:21 PM
Pre simulcasting I was a better bettor than I am know.  I used to really pay attention to the races and identify horses to bet on the next time they raced.  I find myself betting the odds board now instead of paying attention to a race.  Now that is a bad bettor.
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on October 16, 2018, 09:57:05 PM
last big score i made was 1986,and no,i am not kidding,i am in a mild slump
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: LUCPARK on October 16, 2018, 09:58:02 PM
i once scored 3 goals in pee wee hockey league tmbz1 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: bigbettor on October 16, 2018, 10:14:52 PM
had a $3,100+ tri at YR for $2. still can catch a few nice $400 & up exactas every now and again. dime bets have killed super pools at Meds. if you're a super bettor I swear you're bettor off playing the $.50 min. supers at the Meadows...tossing Palone if he's overbet a plus.
Phl + PcD - no action!

Mohawk would or should be top of the list but it's real tough to handicap, and finishing off a tri or super wheel on any sort of budget is even tougher.

Best value - little $ for ok return? either HoP or ScD. can hit ?X on lots of their $.10 supers and $2 exactas.

JMO
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: HornbyDuke on October 16, 2018, 10:20:10 PM
New us tax rules are  a plus for deep multi horse/race players. Make dealing with Uncle Sam less of a consideration
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: lesstired on October 17, 2018, 10:29:49 AM
what are the "new" tax rules?
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 17, 2018, 11:07:22 AM
i once scored 3 goals in pee wee hockey league tmbz1 ;D ;D

Last week
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: Claimed Again on October 17, 2018, 03:58:38 PM
never was easy, never will. look for value. small pools make it difficult. not uncommon to see the 1st and 2nd choice run 1-2 and the exacta pays near $20, other times it pays $8.
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: PIGLAND on October 17, 2018, 05:27:48 PM
What would you consider decent score in odds or dollar amount?
for you?
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: moelarrythecheese on October 17, 2018, 05:45:40 PM
I won just under $500 on a $12 pick four ticket at Cal Expo last season.
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: lesstired on October 17, 2018, 05:48:07 PM
so...if I wagered $80  on a pik 4   ticket and it paid  5500.


would I owe any $$$   ????


approx  a  75-1 return
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: HornbyDuke on October 17, 2018, 06:14:31 PM
so...if I wagered $80  on a pik 4   ticket and it paid  5500.

would I owe any $$$   ????
approx  a  75-1 return


As I understand it you wouldn't get a w-2. For many gamblers that is the impt issue.

Gambling winnings may still be taxable, but some (read most) don't evaluate  paying taxes unless a w-2 is issued. The w-2 reports the winnings to the fed gvt.

Technically, my limited appreciation of Byzantine tax rules is that even a $100 win ticket needs to be reported. The variables are complicated, professional gambler status, whether you itemize etc. The bottom line is if a typical gambler doesn't get a w-2 none of the winnings are ever evaluated for tax status since the gvt doesn't know.

I don't professional to be an expert on this so others can correct me if I'm errantly understanding this.
Title: Re: Has anyone made a decent harness gambling score last 5 years?
Post by: lesstired on October 17, 2018, 08:09:50 PM
ok thx
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