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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: lesstired on October 16, 2018, 08:39:26 PM
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I can't scratch my ass ......
Actually used to win some decent $$ at YR and RR years back.....
I cannot handicap anymore.....I am real bad......
Doesn't matter if I bet $2 or $200 cannot win.....
virtually stopped wagering....
Once they put the passing lane in.... it was all over for me.....
and my annual handle went from approx $100k -200k to under 10k
I cannot win....so why bet......?
after u guys tell me how bad I suck.....tell me how you have done....
and if u actually can win.....what angle(s) do u use.......
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very tough these days ,betting fewer and fewer races as most get over bet
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I used to be a speed handicapper at Yonkers....when they had a hub rail....
and the drivers could actually back the half down a bit and u would actually have a decent chance to win at 5-1 , 6-1, 10-1 odds....
Now even when u are 3-5....the pock ricket just comes up the rail....and the
banked turn gives the horse on the outside a slingshot effect....
You are usually dead wood......
I cannot see why drivers even cut the mile at YR....
I have basically given up harness wagering.....fun to watch....
but I cannot pick the winner...unless u give me 1 thru 5 ...maybe I would
have a shot......
and they still take out 20% or more from the win pool.....
I guess they have alot of suckers out there willing to throw their $$ away.
Total waste of time.....
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Stop betting
Watch a few nights nights
Relax. It will come back to you with. Ease tmbz1
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I had my first good hit on a cheap race at Red Mile --- $1700 tri for a dollar ticket... One of those oddities, I was hoping for $600....
Tough to nail big score in harness racing.... pools, even at the Meds, are not that big.... I have played more runners at the big tracks where they handle the Meds entire card in one race. Caught a couple good paying pick 4's, difference when a harness track has a guaranteed 10k pool in pick four compared to the runners that may have a 250k guranteed pool.
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I wager almost only on the big m and mohawk. I only wager win bets on any half mile or 5/8 in the rare instance I play any of those. The inner posts have too much of an advantage. When I do play a win wager at 1/2 miles it's almost always an angle related to a trainer.
I've hit some big scores for .20 p5 and p4's at mohawk. A few in the 5 k range. It's tough. If you have an angle on 1 horse I would use that horse and spread as deep as you can afford in other races.
This is entertainment for me though. I'm not seeing myself with a positive roi at yr end.
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Pre simulcasting I was a better bettor than I am know. I used to really pay attention to the races and identify horses to bet on the next time they raced. I find myself betting the odds board now instead of paying attention to a race. Now that is a bad bettor.
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last big score i made was 1986,and no,i am not kidding,i am in a mild slump
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i once scored 3 goals in pee wee hockey league tmbz1 ;D ;D
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had a $3,100+ tri at YR for $2. still can catch a few nice $400 & up exactas every now and again. dime bets have killed super pools at Meds. if you're a super bettor I swear you're bettor off playing the $.50 min. supers at the Meadows...tossing Palone if he's overbet a plus.
Phl + PcD - no action!
Mohawk would or should be top of the list but it's real tough to handicap, and finishing off a tri or super wheel on any sort of budget is even tougher.
Best value - little $ for ok return? either HoP or ScD. can hit ?X on lots of their $.10 supers and $2 exactas.
JMO
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New us tax rules are a plus for deep multi horse/race players. Make dealing with Uncle Sam less of a consideration
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what are the "new" tax rules?
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i once scored 3 goals in pee wee hockey league tmbz1 ;D ;D
Last week
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never was easy, never will. look for value. small pools make it difficult. not uncommon to see the 1st and 2nd choice run 1-2 and the exacta pays near $20, other times it pays $8.
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What would you consider decent score in odds or dollar amount?
for you?
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I won just under $500 on a $12 pick four ticket at Cal Expo last season.
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so...if I wagered $80 on a pik 4 ticket and it paid 5500.
would I owe any $$$ ????
approx a 75-1 return
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so...if I wagered $80 on a pik 4 ticket and it paid 5500.
would I owe any $$$ ????
approx a 75-1 return
As I understand it you wouldn't get a w-2. For many gamblers that is the impt issue.
Gambling winnings may still be taxable, but some (read most) don't evaluate paying taxes unless a w-2 is issued. The w-2 reports the winnings to the fed gvt.
Technically, my limited appreciation of Byzantine tax rules is that even a $100 win ticket needs to be reported. The variables are complicated, professional gambler status, whether you itemize etc. The bottom line is if a typical gambler doesn't get a w-2 none of the winnings are ever evaluated for tax status since the gvt doesn't know.
I don't professional to be an expert on this so others can correct me if I'm errantly understanding this.
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ok thx