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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Bustinout on June 02, 2018, 07:31:46 AM
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Just heard huge fire at Banca’s last night over 20
Horses dead - mostly Dean Eckley’s - awful news if true
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Just heard huge fire at Banca’s last night over 20
Horses dead - mostly Dean Eckley’s - awful news if true
AND DEAN JUST GOT HIS LICENSE BACK
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AND DEAN JUST GOT HIS LICENSE BACK
Again - I just heard a rumor - haven’t seen anything posted anywhere but source is reliable. I hope it’s not true
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Its true 28 dead if I knew how to post pictures on here I would
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AWFUL NEWS.
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Its true 28 dead if I knew how to post pictures on here I would
Unreal! Very sad
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Just plain horrible.......sa d news
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Poor horses--was it spontaneous combustion from all the chemicals they've got thrown at them?
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nothing on usta yet
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Yo bad it wasn't dean and not the horses world would be a better place
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25-30 died
Not good
I don t understand why this keeps happening
Just shut the fucking breaker before you leave at night
This is careless
And 30 lives were lost for that reason
Assuming it was electrical
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Very sad news! But, what may be worse is what it says about our society when we care more about horses than people. It is very tragic but to suggest that it should have been Dean instead of the horses is just sick. For as much of a distasteful person he may be as a horseman, he still has a family, a wife and daughter who love him and rely on him. And how about any concern for the grooms who nearly lost their lives trying to save these horses?!?
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25-30 died
Not good
I don t understand why this keeps happening
Just shut the fucking breaker before you leave at night
This is careless
And 30 lives were lost for that reason
Assuming it was electrical
I haven’t seen anything else about it online anywhere
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2nd leading trainer Billings lost about 20, just terrible
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What this individual has gotten away with in this sport and still be allowed to participate on any level is mind blowing. If this story is true and some of the horses were his.....that is unfortunate. But the sheer chemical abuse that has been placed on these animals over time now has stopped and they are in animal heaven. Just the mere sight of this guys name in anything harness related is sick in so many ways and on so many levels. RIP beautiful creatures.
tmbz1
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Everything gone , right down to the feed tube and water buckets ! Nothing left but some carcasses rotting at this point. Horrific it’s on Facebook as well . Godspeed to the horses
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http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/article.aspx?articleid=80482&zoneid=35
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So bancas horses are ok
Eckley and Billings were effected
Hope beat the drum is ok
Good horse
This is so terrible
But again could have been avoided
Heartbreaking
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So bancas horses are ok
Eckley and Billings were effected
Hope beat the drum is ok
Good horse
This is so terrible
But again could have been avoided
Heartbreaking
Probably could have been avoided. But, until all the facts are in, do ya think you could hold off on passing judgement.
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So bancas horses are ok
Eckley and Billings were effected
Hope beat the drum is ok
Good horse
This is so terrible
But again could have been avoided
Heartbreaking
THEY FUCKED UP SHELDON? HOW?
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https://www.gofundme.com/mount-hope-barn-fire
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Very sad..no matter what trainer..
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Gofundme wtf wouldn't give a dime to those thieving fucks
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You are right on with that charm tmbz1
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Very sad..no matter what trainer..
Agreed, I'm just glad and thankful for the people who claimed blue swan 5/28 as he probably would have perished too.
Blue Swan Gus G & James D Scarpias
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I hope they do a full investigation..
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Gofundme wtf wouldn't give a dime to those thieving fucks
i hope they didnt have insurence,and at
re out of the sport for ever
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i hope they didnt have insurence,and at
re out of the sport for ever
Wouldn’t the farm have insurance?
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THEY FUCKED UP SHELDON? HOW?
Fire happened at night from what I read
Doubt anyone was smoking in middle of night
Unless :1 11.a 11.zq 11.tfk
Lol
What else could have caused it potentially ?
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Fire happened at night from what I read
Doubt anyone was smoking in middle of night
Unless :1 11.a 11.zq 11.tfk
Lol
What else could have caused it potentially ?
I WONT VENTURE A GUESS ON THIS GRIM MATTER
ITS TO SERIOUS TO SPECULATE AND NOT MY DEAL
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NO NEW INFO HERE , BUT I HAVE CHECKED MULTIPLE NEWS OUTLETS AND THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I CAN FIND THAT IS AT LEAST TRYING TO COVER IT...
http://hudsonvalley.news12.com/story/38333548/spokesperson-at-least-26-horses-die-in-mt-hope-barn-fire
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SAD PICTURE HERE...NY POST
https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/24-racehorses-killed-in-upstate-barn-fire/
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why would the money go to trainers ??
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scratches at saratoga ,very sad
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SAD PICTURE HERE...NY POST
https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/24-racehorses-killed-in-upstate-barn-fire/
Can only imagine the sounds those horses were making
Makes me sick just reading the article and what that guy said
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Looks like Beat the drum was one of the ones that perished....as you said EQ was a nice one.
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Looks like Beat the drum was one of the ones that perished....as you said EQ was a nice one.
Was a list released ?
Sickening
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Was a list released ?
Sickening
No, just pure speculation with him being scratched tonight. Could be 100% incorrect.
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No, just pure speculation with him being scratched tonight. Could be 100% incorrect.
UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK YOUR ASSUMPTION IS A VERY FAIR ONE.
THIS FUCKING STORY HAS MADE ME SICK.
ANYONE KNOW HOW OLD THIS BARN WAS? I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THIS FARM AND WHEN THEIR BARNS WERE BUILT.
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UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK YOUR ASSUMPTION IS A VERY FAIR ONE.
THIS FUCKING STORY HAS MADE ME SICK.
ANYONE KNOW HOW OLD THIS BARN WAS? I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THIS FARM AND WHEN THEIR BARNS WERE BUILT.
Agreed, just disgusting. Seems to happen a couple times a year and story always hits close to home.
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You are right on with that charm tmbz1
Who is getting the gofundme money?dean what a scam
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IMO...no gofund me without a proper investigation is done..
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Gofundme wtf wouldn't give a dime to those thieving fucks
couldn't have happen to a better person
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https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/24-racehorses-killed-in-upstate-barn-fire/
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whoever set up this gofuckme page for these cheating pricks needs a punch in the fucking face
What a fucking disgrace
And to read the names of those who donated already
You’re just as bad as these pricks
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whoever set up this gofuckme page for these cheating pricks needs a punch in the fucking face
What a fucking disgrace
And to read the names of those who donated already
You’re just as bad as these pricks
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Rod allumsset it up says money will be shared with victims evenly ngc3
Same guy who stole Michelle eustis money
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othing on usta yet
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othing on usta yet
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couldn't have happen to a better person
While I wouldn’t ever donate money to a guy who has done the things dean has done in the business, I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
And maybe this is just me but, I can’t imagine donating money to anyone who is going to turn around and claim my horses with it.
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While I wouldn’t ever donate money to a guy who has done the things dean has done in the business, I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
And maybe this is just me but, I can’t imagine donating money to anyone who is going to turn around and claim my horses with it.
And then go around and likely abuse the poor animals with drugs.
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i know there is no money in this sport, but is there any reason why racehorse barns are not built to be more fireproof? That barn went up like it was made of kerosene soaked kindling and old newspapers.
Any barn fire is horrible, since a number of horses inevitably run back into the barn when turned loose, but in this day and age you think it would we would have less of these fires and they would be less destructive.
I realize most racetrack barns were built a hundred years ago, but all these training centers should have been constructed to higher standards.
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i know there is no money in this sport, but is there any reason why racehorse barns are not built to be more fireproof? That barn went up like it was made of kerosene soaked kindling and old newspapers.
Any barn fire is horrible, since a number of horses inevitably run back into the barn when turned loose, but in this day and age you think it would we would have less of these fires and they would be less destructive.
I realize most racetrack barns were built a hundred years ago, but all these training centers should have been constructed to higher standards.
Agree! Especially at the prices they charge for stall rent. $300-$400 per month per stall you would think they could at least install a sprinkler system
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i know there is no money in this sport, but is there any reason why racehorse barns are not built to be more fireproof? That barn went up like it was made of kerosene soaked kindling and old newspapers.
Any barn fire is horrible, since a number of horses inevitably run back into the barn when turned loose, but in this day and age you think it would we would have less of these fires and they would be less destructive.
I realize most racetrack barns were built a hundred years ago, but all these training centers should have been constructed to higher standards.
You nailed the issues but the bottomline is greed. Do guys like Eckley care one bit about horse's welfare? I know there are a lot of horseman that do but this guy doesn't seem to be one of them. If the horseman cared they would negotiate a % of slots welfare to horse well-being improvement. I'd imagine a guy like Eckley would juice a cockroach if they were racing for purses.
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Yes, Beat the Drum was one who perished in the fire. Sad ending.
:'( :'( :'(
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Reminds me of Herve Filions capital hill farms fire back in 1979 he lost 48 horses almost all owned by him . Never recovered .
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Ive seen a few farms made of concrete with rubber mats
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And not a word about the fire from President Trump yet.
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no story on usta yet ,just a go fund me link
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I see Mark Betwith donated 500 to the GoFundMe effort... I wonder what races he is going to go dead in to get his money back
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I see Mark Betwith donated 500 to the GoFundMe effort... I wonder what races he is going to go dead in to get his money back
welcome aboard
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There are actually 2 gofundme accounts started. One with a link on the USTA and another started by I don't know who.
They need to consolidate these.
i think monica started one
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couldn't have happen to a better person
You shouldn’t wish this on anyone. No matter how scum someone is. Those are horses lives that were taken in that fire. That is just classless for you to think anyone should have to experience this. I hope you don’t have horses because clearly you shouldn’t. How people can be so heartless.
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FIRE MARSHAL SAID FROM LIGHTING
ANTHROP LOSE HIS GOOD 3 YEAR OLD
WHY ARE THERE STILL WOODEN BARNS
SO SAID FOR THE HORSES
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FIRE MARSHAL SAID FROM LIGHTING
ANTHROP LOSE HIS GOOD 3 YEAR OLD
WHY ARE THERE STILL WOODEN BARNS
SO SAID FOR THE HORSES
jewish lightning??
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Even an ancient barn can be retrofitted with an overhead sprinkler system. Why isn't this mandatory?
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FIRE MARSHAL SAID FROM LIGHTING
ANTHROP LOSE HIS GOOD 3 YEAR OLD
WHY ARE THERE STILL WOODEN BARNS
SO SAID FOR THE HORSES
IF NOT FER A STEEL HORSE TRAILER PARKED AT END OF BARN RICK DANE JR BARN WOULDA BURNT TOO,,,
WOOD IS READILY AVAILABLE, EASY TO WORK WITH, AND ADAPTABLE TO MULTIPLE CONCEPTS AND PROVISIONS.
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Even an ancient barn can be retrofitted with an overhead sprinkler system. Why isn't this mandatory?
AGREE tmbz1
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jewish lightning??
Right on. They had the Jewish liquidation horse sale. Everything insured for 2 million. All of the horses combine were worth about 2 thousand. Rick Dane threw the flare from what I heard last night.
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Make a donation to the Harness Horse Retirment ?? How about to the ones that lost everythibg
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Make a donation to the Harness Horse Retirment ?? How about to the ones that lost everythibg
Fuck them gassers, why do you think it’s called Mt. Dope
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Right on. They had the Jewish liquidation horse sale. Everything insured for 2 million. All of the horses combine were worth about 2 thousand. Rick Dane threw the flare from what I heard last night.
OMG
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From what i heard Greg Gardner lost 11 horses in fire
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The owners lost ?? Lost what ?? an investment !!!..when you buy a horse its a gamble isnt it ?? I feel a little sorry for the owners,,trainers..BUT IM SICK TO KNOW ALL THOSE POOR HORSES DIED..MAKING OWNERS AND TRAINERS MONEY..THE OWNER WILL JUST WRITE IT OFF AS A TAX WRITE OFF AND BUY THE TRAINER MORE HORSES..ID RATHER DONATE MONEY AND BUY FROM THE AMISH WHO ARE ABOUT TO SEND HORSES TO BE KILLED...NOW..IF A HUMAN LOST THIER LIFE TRYING TO SAVE THE HORSES THEN ID SAY MAKE A FUND TO HELP THEIR FAMILY..
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The owners lost ?? Lost what ?? an investment !!!..when you buy a horse its a gamble isnt it ?? I feel a little sorry for the owners,,trainers..BUT IM SICK TO KNOW ALL THOSE POOR HORSES DIED..MAKING OWNERS AND TRAINERS MONEY..THE OWNER WILL JUST WRITE IT OFF AS A TAX WRITE OFF AND BUY THE TRAINER MORE HORSES..ID RATHER DONATE MONEY AND BUY FROM THE AMISH WHO ARE ABOUT TO SEND HORSES TO BE KILLED...NOW..IF A HUMAN LOST THIER LIFE TRYING TO SAVE THE HORSES THEN ID SAY MAKE A FUND TO HELP THEIR FAMILY..
Wow, owners can't have attachment to horses? They all have so much money losing 11 horses doesn't impact them? Guess I know which party you vote for in elections.
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Attachment ??? as soon as a horse cant make enough to cover the bill ..the owners ready to "AMISH THAT RAT" Please owners are attached to money..as soon as they dont make it ..they leave the trainer they loved !!! They sell the horse they couldnt live without !!! the old saying my friend ..."EVERYONE LOVES A WINNER "
And im sorry I have much more respect for people who donated Anonymous then put their name ? donate Anonymous and say something nice ..no need to look like a good guy when your a scumbag !!!
Donate to make a bill to have mandatory sprinkler system in every barn to protect those horses !!!!
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Last comment on this cause im kinda pissed off..Soooooo they want you to donate to an owner who lost an investment ..oh im sorry a family member lol...so answer me this
HOW MANY PEOPLE DONATE TO A FUND WHERE A COP OR FIREMAN LOST THEIR LIFE SAVING SOMEONE !!!
HOW MANY PEOPLE DONATED TO SOMEONE IN THE MILITARY WHO CAME HOME AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO WALK AGAIN ..PLAY BALL WITH THEIR KID..WHILE PROTECTING US FROM FUCKING TERRORIST!!
Dont get me wrong ..give to the grooms who really loved those horses and might be out of a job...give to the grooms who are up 5am taking care of those horses while the trainer sleeps till 10 am ,,, emotionally ID BET the grooms are hurting more then anyone !!! Next year at tax time the groom will still miss that horse..while the owner TAKES A TAX WRITE OFF !!!
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I personally watched the barn turn to ashes, it was the most gruesome thing I have ever watched.. regardless if their were sprinkler systems during the middle of the night? Pretty hard to stop a blaze with sprinklers. Dean Eckley is not a bad person .. regardless of how many positives he’s had I’ve never seen one person so upset in my life.. most of you people do not see dean on a daily basis. People change. I’m hoping this post puts a sock in all of your mouths. The horses are dead one mans entire life’s work perished in 20 minutes! You all can say what you want but grow a set of balls and stop bashing people over the internet. Have your feelings but don’t Bring the man down at his lowest point. And to the person who said rick Dane thru the flare rick , I’m pretty sure rick saved future character fro, the kill pen.,distinct color, photo rules all riding horses. Those people care more about those horses than anything. I’m sick that anyone could say those heart wrenching thing after what everyone at MT HOPE had to deal with at 3oclock in the morning.
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Good post
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I personally watched the barn turn to ashes, it was the most gruesome thing I have ever watched.. regardless if their were sprinkler systems during the middle of the night? Pretty hard to stop a blaze with sprinklers. Dean Eckley is not a bad person .. regardless of how many positives he’s had I’ve never seen one person so upset in my life.. most of you people do not see dean on a daily basis. People change. I’m hoping this post puts a sock in all of your mouths. The horses are dead one mans entire life’s work perished in 20 minutes! You all can say what you want but grow a set of balls and stop bashing people over the internet. Have your feelings but don’t Bring the man down at his lowest point. And to the person who said rick Dane thru the flare rick , I’m pretty sure rick saved future character fro, the kill pen.,distinct color, photo rules all riding horses. Those people care more about those horses than anything. I’m sick that anyone could say those heart wrenching thing after what everyone at MT HOPE had to deal with at 3oclock in the morning.
I agree. I don't know Dean and don't really care what people think about him. The way all these horses died is terrible and I can't get that outta my head. Those poor animals
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Yea its a good post unless you were on the farm with him and watched him whip a 2 year old so bad cause the horse refused to pace..and then got him back to the barn and whipped him more..it was so bad that the people on his farm called the A,SP,C,A and investigated
sorry ill feel bad for those poor horses not dean
New York trainer arrested & then suspended
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Harness racing trainer Dean M. Eckley, 27, of Loda, Ill., was arrested on Oct. 8 by the Mount Hope (N.Y.) Police Department in Orange County on a charge of cruelty to animals after he allegedly drove a horse into a barn door at Mount Hope Training Facility, and then whipped the horse.
The New York State Racing and Wagering Board has summarily suspended the occupational license of an owner-trainer who has been charged with beating a horse in Orange County, N.Y.
After learning of the alleged incident today, the Racing and Wagering Board took swift action to summarily suspend Eckley's owner-driver license, that had allowed him to compete in harness racing in New York.
The Board's action led to the scratching of three Eckley-trained horses that had been entered to race at Yonkers Raceway this evening, said Racing and Wagering Board Chairman John D. Sabini. Eckley has also trained horses that have competed at Saratoga Raceway and Monticello Raceway.
"This Board has zero tolerance for equine abuse or animal cruelty," chairman Sabini said. "We showed that when we removed prominent trainer Ernest Paragallo from Thoroughbred racing, and we showed it again today by taking immediate action against Mr. Eckley."
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These poor horses have been racing their heart's out at Saratoga with devaux drumming on them.
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I personally watched the barn turn to ashes, it was the most gruesome thing I have ever watched.. regardless if their were sprinkler systems during the middle of the night? Pretty hard to stop a blaze with sprinklers. Dean Eckley is not a bad person .. regardless of how many positives he’s had I’ve never seen one person so upset in my life.. most of you people do not see dean on a daily basis. People change. I’m hoping this post puts a sock in all of your mouths. The horses are dead one mans entire life’s work perished in 20 minutes! You all can say what you want but grow a set of balls and stop bashing people over the internet. Have your feelings but don’t Bring the man down at his lowest point. And to the person who said rick Dane thru the flare rick , I’m pretty sure rick saved future character fro, the kill pen.,distinct color, photo rules all riding horses. Those people care more about those horses than anything. I’m sick that anyone could say those heart wrenching thing after what everyone at MT HOPE had to deal with at 3oclock in the morning.
His lifes work?
Where oh where are all those EPO horses from 3 years ago?
5 years ago?
10 years ago?
Where they in that barn?
No they couldnt be because the majority of them were already dead from the torture endured from the human you want us to empathize with?
Which was worse multiple starts in terror with organs working overtime until they fail or the blood turns to stone...or this?
Neither was fair nor humane to the horses.
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Don't confuse the fact that 28 poor horses perished in an unthinkable manner with the fact
that they were trained by one of the biggest pieces of shit ever!
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I can’t even handle how stupid some
Of you people are.. some of you need to drop dwelling in the past. And his life’s work yes.. so any of you inbesols know how much a pair of hobbles cost ? Or even a feed bucket? No I’m sure you don’t. The guy had millions of dollars invested in that barn.. and all you people are worried abo is that one day a long time ago he beat one horse.. I don’t think it’s right what he did.. but I do see him on a daily basis.. maybe having a wife and kids has changed him none of you know that bc none of you see it. And you all forget about Ron
Burke Julie miller and all those guys getting positives that magically disappear all the time bc he isn’t rich he couldn’t get his drug charges dropped? If you have something to say to dean about how big of a loser he is. He lives at mount hope come have a chat!
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Millions of dollars? Please give it a rest.
That one incident should have been enough to end his tenure. But rather he got how many more chances?
From this article (http://www.harnesslink.com/News/-2)
“Dean Eckley is a harness racing trainer. Since becoming a licensed trainer in 2008 his racing record shows 230 winners from his stable and purse earnings of more than $1.5 million. More than half of those wins have come this year. In 2013 he has sent out 389 starters with 118 wins and an impressive Universal Trainer Rating (UTR) or battling average of .433. He raced primarily at Colonial Downs and at Scioto Downs and Northfield Park in Ohio.
Looking at his USTA record under fines and suspensions you will find nothing more than a bunch of failure to designate someone responsible for his racehorse in the race paddock and numerous fines for abusive language in the race paddock and to race officials. Reads like he grooms his own horses and thus leaves them unattended too much and he has a foul mouth and a temper. Nothing earth shattering. Nothing out of the norm in the horse industry.
But there is always more than what a USTA rulings report can produce. So we Google Dean Eckely and what came up?
“Dean M. Eckley, 27, of Loda, Ill., was arrested on Oct. 8, 2010 by the Mount Hope (N.Y.) Police Department in Orange County on a charge of cruelty to animals after he allegedly drove a horse into a barn door at Mount Hope Training Facility, and then whipped the horse.”
The police did a three month investigation into Eckley and had him dead to rights guilty. The New York State Wagering Board threw him out of the state. He only sent out five horses in purse races in 2011 and none in 2012.
So Dean plays it cool for two years, more than likely handling horses via friends or “beards” to do the training as he sits on the sidelines. Then he emerges back on the scene in Ohio and Virginia this year. Apparently his past caught up with him. He could not stop trying better racing through chemistry.
He was caught with a positive test on one of his horses at Colonial Downs in Virginia and two days ago it was announced he would receive a five year suspension and a $10,000 fine. But that still does not answer the question of why any racetrack would have allowed him to compete at their track after the horse abuse crime two years ago?
Do these tracks not do their homework? Do they just allow anyone with a license to come in and start racing without doing a proper background check? Or do they feel that driving a horse into barn door and then whipping said horse is ok to do?”
As it says “beards” which is what Don Billings was doing...constant disregard for rules. Yet you seek compassion and empathy from the same people that have had the wool pulled over their heads?
As for your comments regarding other participants, sure a purge is needed. The authorties need help catching the crooks. Maybe you have info that can help?
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It looks as if KARMA, finally caught up to Eckley and Billings. And not a moment too soon
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I can’t even handle how stupid some
Of you people are.. some of you need to drop dwelling in the past. And his life’s work yes.. so any of you inbesols know how much a pair of hobbles cost ? Or even a feed bucket? No I’m sure you don’t. The guy had millions of dollars invested in that barn.. and all you people are worried abo is that one day a long time ago he beat one horse.. I don’t think it’s right what he did.. but I do see him on a daily basis.. maybe having a wife and kids has changed him none of you know that bc none of you see it. And you all forget about Ron
Burke Julie miller and all those guys getting positives that magically disappear all the time bc he isn’t rich he couldn’t get his drug charges dropped? If you have something to say to dean about how big of a loser he is. He lives at mount hope come have a chat!
true inbesols ty
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This guy has to listen to 24 horses kick and scream for their life, you really think he wanted that? I think about karma you say? All of you will rot in hell for these posts. I’ve had enough of you black hearted probably no talent trainers that couldn’t make
It in the business so let’s sit behind a computer or phone and type. I haven’t read a post on this site in probably 7 years but these posts were read to me and they make me sick. Why don’t you guys tell us your true identity’s and grow a set of balls.
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this was a travisty
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Who isn't saddened by the loss of equine life ?
Horrific.
I can't get that NY post article our of my mind.
Horses crying....tears me up.
agree
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This guy has to listen to 24 horses kick and scream for their life, you really think he wanted that? I think about karma you say? All of you will rot in hell for these posts. I’ve had enough of you black hearted probably no talent trainers that couldn’t make
It in the business so let’s sit behind a computer or phone and type. I haven’t read a post on this site in probably 7 years but these posts were read to me and they make me sick. Why don’t you guys tell us your true identity’s and grow a set of balls.
Hey listen, LLCunt. I don't see you putting your real name on a posting either. You may be some guy hiding behind a pseudo fake set of tits yourself. So don't go telling others what to do, that you don't do yourself
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Hope dean has to move back to the trailer park in loda and go back to banging his cousin hey dean come to Hawthorne and I'll stick a size 12 up your ass for juicing up a 14 year old jovial joker
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I just can’t with you people, regardless if you think dean is a good person or not. Not just dean but EVERYONE here at the farm was up trying to save these horses lives, and thankfully we got to save 30 more horses lives as we got rick Danes horses out of their stalls. Say what you want I’m not going to fight via horseplop any more. We lost lives here. Everyone is devastated if that happened to my horses and people were bashing me I would probably be suicidal . But Mount hope isn’t just a training facility we call root each other to do good we are a family. And if you all cannot take into consideration that a man Regardless of his past or not has lost everything he has I’m not saying like him just give the guy a break for 5 minutes maybe think of what we all had to witness.
~HV
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This fire was a tragedy of epic proportions.
It makes me sick to think of those poor horses who died an agonizing death-I am so sorry for them and I wont forget them.
No humans died thankfully-and while this is tragic for them-they can go on with their lives -the horses cannot.
Where are the fire Inspectors? I cannot help but think this could have been prevented if enough precautions had been in place.
I hope a serious investigation happens and systems are put in place to prevent this from happening-and its happening FAR too often.
These horses deserve an investigation -so they didn't die in vain and something constructive comes from it.
RIP
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I just can’t with you people, regardless if you think dean is a good person or not. Not just dean but EVERYONE here at the farm was up trying to save these horses lives, and thankfully we got to save 30 more horses lives as we got rick Danes horses out of their stalls. Say what you want I’m not going to fight via horseplop any more. We lost lives here. Everyone is devastated if that happened to my horses and people were bashing me I would probably be suicidal . But Mount hope isn’t just a training facility we call root each other to do good we are a family. And if you all cannot take into consideration that a man Regardless of his past or not has lost everything he has I’m not saying like him just give the guy a break for 5 minutes maybe think of what we all had to witness.
~HV
Do you see anyone bashing the other people who lost horses? Looks like just Dean from what I read. You reap what you sow. I absolutely mourn the horses that had to go that gruesome way, but I also mourn their abhorrent treatment while living.
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I guess I fall somewhere in the middle on all this. I have very little sympathy for Dean but feel terribly for the horses and any grooms who actually cared about the horses, not to mention past connections of the horses that are still feeling a loss. No, I don’t believe all grooms care greatly for the horses because if they did they wouldn’t stand by and watch a horse get the shit beat out of it or get its brains blown out every week with needle, prod and tube. Dean is still a liar and a cheat who makes his living getting horses off honest trainers and “improves” them with his gas. But to say this tragedy was karma, is just so asinine! And, the asshole who brought his antisemedic beliefs into this, you are just a scum bag. But on the flip side llgirl is being overly dramatic. Dean lost millions of dollars? Really?? He had owners, I’d venture to say they lost more than he did and I still don’t think that’s millions of dollars. That would suggest that just about every horse that was lost was worth at least 50,000. And the sad thing is what I’m hearing from you is all about the value of what he’s lost, not the living creatures. Has he expressed any concern for the horses or just the investment? I’m not sure but I haven’t heard anything about him being upset over this horse or that horse that he really liked but have heard of him being upset over the financial loss. His life’s work? He’s not that old and from what I’m reading, he’s spent as much time suspended as he has racing. You guys there are all a big family? I wouldn’t claim horses off my family members. But by far, her stupidest comment was to suggest that a sprinkler system would not have helped! The fire woul not have been as out of control so quickly and while most likely some horses lives still would have been lost, there’s a good chance some would have been saved. And even if the responding groom had only been able to save one horse, had there been a sprinkler system, that investment would have been well worth it.
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No doubt that when the new barn is built, technology should be put in place to help in efforts to hope it doesn't happen again. And rents should be raised to cover the costs of this new technology
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I guess I fall somewhere in the middle on all this. I have very little sympathy for Dean but feel terribly for the horses and any grooms who actually cared about the horses, not to mention past connections of the horses that are still feeling a loss. No, I don’t believe all grooms care greatly for the horses because if they did they wouldn’t stand by and watch a horse get the shit beat out of it or get its brains blown out every week with needle, prod and tube. Dean is still a liar and a cheat who makes his living getting horses off honest trainers and “improves” them with his gas. But to say this tragedy was karma, is just so asinine! And, the asshole who brought his antisemedic beliefs into this, you are just a scum bag. But on the flip side llgirl is being overly dramatic. Dean lost millions of dollars? Really?? He had owners, I’d venture to say they lost more than he did and I still don’t think that’s millions of dollars. That would suggest that just about every horse that was lost was worth at least 50,000. And the sad thing is what I’m hearing from you is all about the value of what he’s lost, not the living creatures. Has he expressed any concern for the horses or just the investment? I’m not sure but I haven’t heard anything about him being upset over this horse or that horse that he really liked but have heard of him being upset over the financial loss. His life’s work? He’s not that old and from what I’m reading, he’s spent as much time suspended as he has racing. You guys there are all a big family? I wouldn’t claim horses off my family members. But by far, her stupidest comment was to suggest that a sprinkler system would not have helped! The fire woul not have been as out of control so quickly and while most likely some horses lives still would have been lost, there’s a good chance some would have been saved. And even if the responding groom had only been able to save one horse, had there been a sprinkler system, that investment would have been well worth it.
Great post-my feelings exactly-well said.
"Karma" or "you reap what you sow"-is not what this should be about.That makes it personal and somehow that its 'OK' that scumbag people "deserve' to have their animals killed for no good reason.
I cried when I heard this story-its just so sad for those horses-like Beat the Drum ,Tyler the Terror and 26 others. They are the innocent victims here.
I hope something positive comes out of this-like fire resistant materials for barns etc etc.
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Great post-my feelings exactly-well said.
"Karma" or "you reap what you sow"-is not what this should be about.That makes it personal and somehow that its 'OK' that scumbag people "deserve' to have their animals killed for no good reason.
I cried when I heard this story-its just so sad for those horses-like Beat the Drum ,Tyler the Terror and 26 others. They are the innocent victims here.
I hope something positive comes out of this-like fire resistant materials for barns etc etc.
Bond--the "reap what you sow" comment is in regard to people having little sympathy for Dean. I don't suggest he deserves to have his animals killed or he himself physically harmed. In fact, I wish he and others like him are never allowed around animals at all. Those horses don't deserve to die in a fire and they definitely don't deserve the chemical warfare that is happened upon them by guys like Eckley. The last thing I would do is donate to something that would potentially allow him to get horses under his care ago. I don't care what that HV person says about him "changing" a history of suspensions and administrative action would prove otherwise. Furthermore, basic human nature dictates that most people do not inherently change once they reach a certain point in life.
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Bond--the "reap what you sow" comment is in regard to people having little sympathy for Dean. I don't suggest he deserves to have his animals killed or he himself physically harmed. In fact, I wish he and others like him are never allowed around animals at all. Those horses don't deserve to die in a fire and they definitely don't deserve the chemical warfare that is happened upon them by guys like Eckley. The last thing I would do is donate to something that would potentially allow him to get horses under his care ago. I don't care what that HV person says about him "changing" a history of suspensions and administrative action would prove otherwise. Furthermore, basic human nature dictates that most people do not inherently change once they reach a certain point in life.
Fair enough-fully agree.
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How many barn fires have there to be before more preventative actions are taken? Whether to mitigate loss or prevent altogether there seems to be a rash of them. Classy Lane, Brewer Adams place, Mt. Hope among others I can't think of off the top of my head. There seems to be an attitude of "well if theres a fire we'll just set up a gofundme account to recover the losses". How about doing something to design barns so there are escape routes.
As for the "family" of druggists that train there, maybe you should reflect on your actions and what you ultimately do to the game. Eckley has been found guilty of abuse and has been kicked out of PA til 2021. Maybe he should take up another vocation.
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How many barn fires have there to be before more preventative actions are taken? Whether to mitigate loss or prevent altogether there seems to be a rash of them. Classy Lane, Brewer Adams place, Mt. Hope among others I can't think of off the top of my head. There seems to be an attitude of "well if theres a fire we'll just set up a gofundme account to recover the losses". How about doing something to design barns so there are escape routes.
As for the "family" of druggists that train there, maybe you should reflect on your actions and what you ultimately do to the game. Eckley has been found guilty of abuse and has been kicked out of PA til 2021. Maybe he should take up another vocation.
The fire at the Roman Lopez barn in Florida
And goshen fire last year
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Gaitway farm some years back barn4...
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There has to be a way to build a fire safe barn for these creatures......en ough is enough......the loss of these innocent lives is to painful to think about.
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https://www.cnn.com/specials/live-video-1
FIRE THREATENS HORSE FARMS IN CALI
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THE FIRE MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH !!! AND I FEEL BAD FOR ALL INVOLVED ..BUT DO THEY DESERVE MONEY ????
IM SORRY I JUST DONT THINK SO...AGAIN IM SURE THOSE ASSHOLE OWNERS ALREADY CALLED THEIR ACCOUNTANT AND SAID I HAVE A WRITE OFF FOR NEXT YEAR
AND YES 95 PERCENT OF ALL OWNERS ARE DIRTBAGS..THERE IS NO LOYALITY ..TO ANYONE..LET ALONE THEIR HORSES
AND LL GIRL..WERENT YOU THE ONE SUCKING NICK SURICKS COCK LAST YEAR
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Gaitway farm some years back barn4...
thanksgiving day robbie seigelman's barn, man made, hot water heater left unattended in a bucket .
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https://www.cnn.com/specials/live-video-1
FIRE THREATENS HORSE FARMS IN CALI
Is this another one or the one that killed a bunch at San Luis Rey?
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I hope they put in survelience cameras in the new barn with live feeds so we know who is juicing so we can bet accordingly
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This guy has to listen to 24 horses kick and scream for their life, you really think he wanted that? I think about karma you say? All of you will rot in hell for these posts. I’ve had enough of you black hearted probably no talent trainers that couldn’t make
It in the business so let’s sit behind a computer or phone and type. I haven’t read a post on this site in probably 7 years but these posts were read to me and they make me sick. Why don’t you guys tell us your true identity’s and grow a set of balls.
Look Ms. Blinded by the cheater, our hearts hurt for the 28 horses that perished in this fire. We could give a shit about a horse abuser. Donate on gofundme? FUCK NO. I'll take my money, speak to my horsemen friends and find an aftercare facility to donate to in the name of these animals who perished in the fire. Support the horses not the cheaters.
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Very tired of all the people blaming Dean and his crew for what he’s gotten away with. BLAME the law makers. They know his beards. Nothing to do with the tradgedy.
SPOKEN FROM A GUY WHO STEALS THE PENNIES OUT OF THE BLIND GUY'S TIN CUP
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SPOKEN FROM A GUY WHO STEALS THE PENNIES OUT OF THE BLIND GUY'S TIN CUP
Same guy wouldn’t put those pennies in tin cup to pay for his laundry at the bungalow. He cheated the merit system.
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Same guy wouldn’t put those pennies in tin cup to pay for his laundry at the bungalow. He cheated the merit system.
OF COURSE HE DIDN'T, THE BLIND GUY GOT HIS REVENGE, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK HE GOT THAT BLACK EYE?
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I just can’t with you people, regardless if you think dean is a good person or not. Not just dean but EVERYONE here at the farm was up trying to save these horses lives, and thankfully we got to save 30 more horses lives as we got rick Danes horses out of their stalls. Say what you want I’m not going to fight via horseplop any more. We lost lives here. Everyone is devastated if that happened to my horses and people were bashing me I would probably be suicidal . But Mount hope isn’t just a training facility we call root each other to do good we are a family. And if you all cannot take into consideration that a man Regardless of his past or not has lost everything he has I’m not saying like him just give the guy a break for 5 minutes maybe think of what we all had to witness.
~HV
Hey bitch Rick Dane threw the flare cause his Chicago owner had the horses insured. He was hoping to lose all his horses and make money for once in his life. At least Eckley makes money. Dane walks around like a big shot but has a capital L inscribed in his forehead for lowlife.
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RICK DANA JR IS NO GOOD. I WOULKD BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD BE OUT FOR A QUICK BUCK AND KILL A FEW FOR THE INSJURANCE DOUGH.
SL
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nothing on the usta yet
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I hope they put in survelience cameras in the new barn with live feeds so we know who is juicing so we can bet accordingly
THERES MORE GAS ON THAT FARM THAN SOME MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES
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Hey bitch Rick Dane threw the flare cause his Chicago owner had the horses insured. He was hoping to lose all his horses and make money for once in his life. At least Eckley makes money. Dane walks around like a big shot but has a capital L inscribed in his forehead
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Has anyone noticed any claims/purchases by the owners or trainers who lost horses in this horrible incident.