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Title: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 13, 2022, 08:25:39 PM
horsemen its coming to a track near you ,you better start preparing
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 13, 2022, 09:46:40 PM
you are the stars of the show! do you think yonkers will continue to race after the new york state allows them to cancel you?
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 13, 2022, 09:47:17 PM
who are you gonna call joe feraldo?
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: whiptherabbit on March 13, 2022, 09:48:37 PM
I would have to agree with Pigland, many other establishments will bite the dust in the next 5 years….

Here’s a ? For the folks on here… what tracks , big or small actually give two fucks & want harness racing to succeed? Tracks who promote & get behind the game?

Mohawk, Red Shores (Charlottetown/Summerside) Hanover, Grand River… what tracks in the states actually care and promote the product?

Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 13, 2022, 09:49:04 PM
most tracks right now are forced to race ,so they can keep the slots
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 13, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
I would have to agree with Pigland, many other establishments will bite the dust in the next 5 years….

Here’s a ? For the folks on here… what tracks , big or small actually give two fucks & want harness racing to succeed? Tracks who promote & get behind the game?

Mohawk, Red Shores (Charlottetown/Summerside) Hanover, Grand River… what tracks in the states actually care and promote the product?
not saratogo or yonkers
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 13, 2022, 09:50:45 PM
I would have to agree with Pigland, many other establishments will bite the dust in the next 5 years….

Here’s a ? For the folks on here… what tracks , big or small actually give two fucks & want harness racing to succeed? Tracks who promote & get behind the game?

Mohawk, Red Shores (Charlottetown/Summerside) Hanover, Grand River… what tracks in the states actually care and promote the product?
none in pennsyvainia
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Jazzman on March 13, 2022, 09:54:35 PM
hoosier only track that comes close
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: COUNSELOR on March 13, 2022, 10:29:43 PM
I AGREE 100% WITH THE ABOVE POST.   TRULY, THERE WILL NOT BE MUCH LEFT IN 5 YEARS AS THE INDUSTRY HAS NOT FOUND AND RETAINED EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP TO MAINTAIN AND GROW THE SPORT!!!!  ALL OF THE GENEROUS SLOT MONEY WAS HANDED OUT TO A SELECT FEW---A PERCENTAGE OF ALL DOLLARS COUNTRY WIDE NEEDED TO BE ALLOTED AND A UNIFIED LOBBYING EFFORT NEEDED TO BE SUSTAINED THROUGHOUT THE LAST 20 + YEARS!!!   IT SEEMS AS THOUGH MILLION CAME IN AND MILLIONS WENT OUT.  THE RIVCH GOT RICHER AND THE REST SURVIVED.   MANY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS WHILE OTHERS BECAME RICH.  MANY COULD NOT COMPETE AS SO MANY BROKE THE LAW AND THE LAW IS FINALLY CATCHING UP WITH MANY AND IT WILL GET WORSE.  THESE FOLKS NO ONLY PROFITED BUT IN ESSENCE DESTROYED THE BUSINESS BUT YET THEY THRIVED. 

I AM VERY SURE IT IS TOO LATE TO SAVE THE INDUSTRY AS WE KNOW IT BUT IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO SAVE THE BUSINESS!!!   

LEADERSHIP IS A FUNNY THING!!!  WE DO NOT NEED LEADERSHIP FROM WITHIN THE INDUSTRY ---WE NEED LEADERSHIP THAT CAN TAKE CONTROL OF THE PRODUCT AND PROMOTE IT WITH THE LAWMAKERS AND THE PUBLIC!!

SLOTS WERE GREAT AND RESCUED THE SPORT WHEN IT NEEDED HELP BUT ALSO MADE EVERYONE LACKADASICAL---JUST REACHED OUT AND TOOK MORE AND MORE WITHOUT REINVESTING BACK INTO SAVING THE SPORT!!!!

IT IS FUNNY THAT YOU CAN NOT PAY A INVOICE BUT YOU ARE SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY BUT YOU CAN HAVE A POSITIVE TEST AND OTHER MAJOR VIOLATIONS AND BE ABLE TO RACE!!!   I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS SPORT GOT TO THIS LEVEL---MY GOD, WHERE DID COMMON SENSE GO?  THE LITTLE GUY WITH SEVERAL HORSES WAS FORCED OUT OF THE BUSINESS---WHAT SAVED OHIO WAS THE SMALL STABLES AND THE GRASSROOTS STABLES THAT BRED A MARE OR TWO AND WENT TO THE RACES!!!!!

I WATCH THESE HUGE PURSES---TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS RUNNING THE SHOW BUT USUALLY SEE MORE OF WHO IS CLEANING OUT THE CUPBOARDS!!
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 13, 2022, 10:59:59 PM
hoosier only track that comes close
agree
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Yonkers1A on March 14, 2022, 06:26:45 AM
It’s like watching a crash in slow motion
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 14, 2022, 07:49:33 AM
It’s like watching a crash in slow motion
so true
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: The Exporter on March 14, 2022, 08:06:30 AM
As if the industry was not already swimming against the tide, the IRS just designated breeding farms as hobby and not business. Making a greater tax burden for most breeders.
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Calhoun on March 14, 2022, 10:12:56 AM
horsemen its coming to a track near you ,you better start preparing
Horsemen Preparation:

1.  Extend both hands
2.  Turn palms up







Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: racing123 on March 14, 2022, 10:13:57 AM
and amazingly, illinois passed slot / casino laws to benefit racing years ago...but the horsemen have seen the supposed racinos never materialize....wh at a complete joke...

good topic here with some good responses....our industry is in trouble in many ways...
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Superfecta on March 14, 2022, 11:50:26 AM
and amazingly, illinois passed slot / casino laws to benefit racing years ago...but the horsemen have seen the supposed racinos never materialize....wh at a complete joke...

good topic here with some good responses....our industry is in trouble in many ways...

Most horsemen have shit for brains.
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: offthepace on March 14, 2022, 04:25:29 PM
the business model SUCKS!!!!  only place in the world where a guy will entrust a 100,000 dollar investment to a guy he would NOT loan 50.00 to
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Superfecta on March 14, 2022, 04:57:22 PM
When the small tracks got slot machines and a purse increase the horsemen wanted much more. When the greedy assholes got more, the bigger barns from the A tracks started to ship in and the local guys were racing for 4th and 5th if they were able to get in. It’s never enough.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 14, 2022, 09:59:22 PM
When the small tracks got slot machines and a purse increase the horsemen wanted much more. When the greedy assholes got more, the bigger barns from the A tracks started to ship in and the local guys were racing for 4th and 5th if they were able to get in. It’s never enough.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
yes
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Yonkers1A on March 16, 2022, 11:09:40 AM
what track will be next ?
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Superfecta on March 16, 2022, 11:12:48 AM
what track will be next ?

Montighetto
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 16, 2022, 12:37:23 PM
what track will be next ?
yonkers should be
Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Emperor Dapple on March 16, 2022, 12:51:43 PM
Montighetto


Never.. That track has 9 lives!! tmbz1


Title: Re: Are horsemen gonna let your track die like pompano?
Post by: Superfecta on March 16, 2022, 01:21:37 PM


Never.. That track has 9 lives!! tmbz1

It will fit perfectly in the 17B cemetery. Management has wanted to shut those doors forever and they will finally succeed.
Realistically, They have a lot of property and with the huge housing shortage that land would be excellent.
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