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Title: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: The Exporter on March 22, 2024, 09:15:04 AM
They said it can't be done. Well Pennsylvania said it can. Bob Belcher is back.
 Status as of 3/18/2024 - Subsequent Ruling - Ruling# 24002C ORDER AND NOW, this
27th day of February 2024, Ruling No. 22016C issued by the Bureau of Standardbred
Horse Racing denying an Owner/Trainer's license to Robert Belcher is hereby
REVERSED. HOWEVER, in accordance with 9323 (e)(2) of the Racing Act, the
Commission hereby grants Robert Belcher a one-year conditional trainer's license
upon the terms and conditions to be set by the Bureau.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: shotgunner on March 22, 2024, 09:18:23 AM
They said it can't be done. Well Pennsylvania said it can. Bob Belcher is back.
 Status as of 3/18/2024 - Subsequent Ruling - Ruling# 24002C ORDER AND NOW, this
27th day of February 2024, Ruling No. 22016C issued by the Bureau of Standardbred
Horse Racing denying an Owner/Trainer's license to Robert Belcher is hereby
REVERSED. HOWEVER, in accordance with 9323 (e)(2) of the Racing Act, the
Commission hereby grants Robert Belcher a one-year conditional trainer's license
upon the terms and conditions to be set by the Bureau.

Was just about to post about this!

Wonder if he will pick up horses from some of the rumored “belcher beards” or start from scratch?
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: The Exporter on March 22, 2024, 09:22:16 AM
How in the world is this a good move for an industry that is in hospice care, now. Maybe SCM can get the Presiding Judge's job that they are recruiting for at Yonkers.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: SwankToliverA on March 22, 2024, 10:57:23 AM
How in the world is this a good move for an industry that is in hospice care, now. Maybe SCM can get the Presiding Judge's job that they are recruiting for at Yonkers.
It's not a good move, but sadly the industry gives zero fucks about what anyone thinks.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: dinkadoo on March 22, 2024, 11:27:15 AM
Belcher Back in Business.... That a racing commission would license him.....

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That an initial ruling was reversed.....

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Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 22, 2024, 01:57:10 PM
he will need a new vet as he is no longer with us god rest his soul.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: seriously on March 22, 2024, 02:08:52 PM
How in the world is this a good move for an industry that is in hospice care, now.

BINGO! 

It is really easy to root against 90% of harness racing. 
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: shotgunner on March 22, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
I didn't realize its been 20 years since he's been licensed.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Papillon on March 22, 2024, 02:19:27 PM
I didn't realize its been 20 years since he's been licensed.

He has been on Bob's Burgers the last decade or so.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Stan durbread on March 22, 2024, 02:30:53 PM
It's not a good move, but sadly the industry gives zero fucks about what anyone thinks.

It ain’t the industry that gives zero fucks. It is the do nothings appointed by the governor of PA that don’t do their jobs.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: jupiter on March 22, 2024, 03:00:33 PM
IS ANYBODY SURPRISED? I am, but it just proves how totally fucked up our sport has become and not looking like it will change in the future. Does he have a USTA trainers license? Who the hell would approve him, gotta be a complete moron. I wonder if they apologized for the poor treatment he's had the past 20 years. They should have said are you out of your fucking mind, you are a criminal.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Stan durbread on March 22, 2024, 03:36:47 PM
He doesn’t have to have a USTA license to get a racing commission license. Now that PA has licensed him they USTA can’t deny him.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Wild bull on March 22, 2024, 04:44:07 PM
Bob is good people was stabled next to him many years always willing to help someone out
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Parked on March 22, 2024, 05:13:29 PM
Now Josh should be ok.   
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Mailbox Money on March 22, 2024, 07:54:40 PM
Let's just discontinue the testing process for good! This is a terrible decision for the good of the game. When someone with his history is reinstated,it leads to more corruption from the guys who should have been revoked over the years! Harness Racing just went from climbing the ladder towards re-exposure to "Screw it,we don't feel like climbing after all!
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: White Rabbit on March 22, 2024, 09:34:13 PM
Compare Belchers record to Burke’s record and Burke has 15 times more serious violations then Bob. So Bob should have gotten his license back years ago.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 23, 2024, 10:05:47 AM
Josh made that operation run on Chitteden road back in the day.  He worked hard for Bob.  Bob was just the doper. Horses still need worked, shipped,and cared for.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 23, 2024, 10:09:43 AM
If I remember correctly  he once flew a plain with a banner over the race track that said no luck for the Irish. 0-57. That was a classic.
Referring to the shamrock stable.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Ramnap on March 23, 2024, 11:39:31 AM
And then the shamrock stable went on a rampage. Grismore was on fire with those things, it may have been one of the best hot streaks I have ever seen. They were so tq'ed or in some sort of hypnotic state they just floated around the track. And then one day mulrooney just disappeared. There was some article in the plain dealer about him and Aldrich coming to some sort of agreement or something like that.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: Yonkers1A on March 23, 2024, 01:14:11 PM
Will MSO be back ?
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: SDST2009 on March 23, 2024, 06:14:42 PM
Compare Belchers record to Burke’s record and Burke has 15 times more serious violations then Bob. So Bob should have gotten his license back years ago.

Burke also has a ton more horses. Not sure the ratio would be in Belcher's favor.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on March 23, 2024, 09:59:16 PM
They said it can't be done. Well Pennsylvania said it can. Bob Belcher is back.
 Status as of 3/18/2024 - Subsequent Ruling - Ruling# 24002C ORDER AND NOW, this
27th day of February 2024, Ruling No. 22016C issued by the Bureau of Standardbred
Horse Racing denying an Owner/Trainer's license to Robert Belcher is hereby
REVERSED. HOWEVER, in accordance with 9323 (e)(2) of the Racing Act, the
Commission hereby grants Robert Belcher a one-year conditional trainer's license
upon the terms and conditions to be set by the Bureau.

This guy will show Burke's how its done!
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: White Rabbit on March 23, 2024, 11:08:13 PM
Burke also has a ton more horses. Not sure the ratio would be in Belcher's favor.
So with that logic, the more horses you have then more positive s your allowed.
Go look up Bobs violations from mid 90’s to early 2000’s , he had 50 plus horses a year and maybe 4 positives
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: The REAL Frank Petrelli on March 23, 2024, 11:46:48 PM
This guy will show Burke's how its done!
He's not a pimple on Burke's ass. Wake up.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: The Exporter on March 24, 2024, 06:24:32 AM
Will MSO be back ?
I would be happier with a case of anal warts then that.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 24, 2024, 07:27:01 PM
So the shamrock stable and Mulrooney did go on a tear.
Do you know why or how that happened?  Who was training those horses? Who was the vet?  They got help after being embarrassed. That's the only reason. 
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 24, 2024, 07:32:58 PM
Shamrock had to beg to get the vet to help him. And the vet would of never helped the shamrocks out with out the approval of a select few people. It was an offer the vet couldn't refuse.
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: hoosierboy on March 24, 2024, 09:31:33 PM
This guy will show Burke's how its done!

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Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: ROOSTER COGBURN on March 24, 2024, 09:52:35 PM
I would be happier with a case of anal warts then that.

Unfortunately the Senator is gone from here or he could have given you all the warts of choice you wished for.  ngc3 Herpes too!
Title: Re: The Big Man Is Back
Post by: SDST2009 on March 25, 2024, 07:44:20 PM
So with that logic, the more horses you have then more positive s your allowed.
Go look up Bobs violations from mid 90’s to early 2000’s , he had 50 plus horses a year and maybe 4 positives

I did not say that anyone should be allowed any more positives than another. I am saying from a ratio standpoint, # of horses trained to # of positives, I would have thought Belcher was worse off than Burke. I looked at his violations and not counting possession of prescribed meds and syringes/needles, I counted 9. However I do not recall the number of horses he was training in the 90s/early 2000s.
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