too many tracks opening up now
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he has to get bigger purses somehow to attract better horses and drivers
championship meet starts soon
,,bigm should improve we hope
too many dover shippers wandering in there. tough to decipher. horrific driver colony a big turnoff for most who have a clue.
Only 10 races last night for the first timeand that's with dover closed. unless gural continues to pump his own money into this place (not sure if he even does that) place is doomed to extinction. he wants slots to save him. good luck with that fantasy in an oversaturated market.
What is with you people here? Tonight's handle will TOP last year's most likely for the same day. Last night had only 10 races with horse shortages we all know about being an issue. The idea that a closed Meadowlands HELPS harness racing is ludicrous!! The smaller tracks depend on the weekend Meadowlands simulcast to drive their nightly simulcast betting on the weekends. I don't see any reason for the comments here about hoping harness tracks close to give joy to those who post such utter stupidity! If you really want the Meadowlands to close, YOU should not be involved in harness racing, not the other way! Go bet lottery tickets instead of your $2.00 per race at the races! The comments here by the same cast of characters are pathetic!I'm not so sure. I think those M1 wagering dollars would find their way into other pools. In fact, it appears like it is happening now.
What is with you people here? Tonight's handle will TOP last year's most likely for the same day. Last night had only 10 races with horse shortages we all know about being an issue. The idea that a closed Meadowlands HELPS harness racing is ludicrous!! The smaller tracks depend on the weekend Meadowlands simulcast to drive their nightly simulcast betting on the weekends. I don't see any reason for the comments here about hoping harness tracks close to give joy to those who post such utter stupidity! If you really want the Meadowlands to close, YOU should not be involved in harness racing, not the other way! Go bet lottery tickets instead of your $2.00 per race at the races! The comments here by the same cast of characters are pathetic!the smaller tracks need their horses, owners, drivers and trainers back even though it is too late since the former patrons all just about all gone. maybe a few of the smaller ones can be saved if that albatross finally shuts down. the big M is responsible for ruining harness racing in this country 42 years ago. a novel idea at the time and it worked for about 20 years but now being a shadow of what it once was it is time to pull the plug on the place.
I'm not so sure. I think those M1 wagering dollars would find their way into other pools. In fact, it appears like it is happening now.good for bettors bad for horsemen. Goes to show the value gamblers place on a mile track... Quality means little. Purses mean little.
YTD 2018 vs 2017:
Total Wagering is down 1/2 of 1%
Total Race Days/Races is down 5%
Total Purses are down about 8%
Per Race Wagering is up just shy of 13%
Those are directionally positive numbers for bettors.
JMVHMFO
Huff ... "Did he give a little back to the NCAA". That's hilarious. You make it sound like the NCAA needs money. They make zillions off of TV revenue, while paying the stars nothing, over and above their scholarships. And many of those scholarships are useless, because no one, including the NCAA cares if an athlete actually gets an education. If you want me to despise Gural, you'd better come up with a better reason than that one !!!
Hush ... Not sure what to give you a break from. When I respond to your point, you simply change your point. It was about him not paying the NCAA and now its about turning the signal into a pay per view. That's called capitalism. if you don't support it, don't support his pay per view. If you don't support capitalism, well, you may be living in the wrong country.
Capitalism ... Industry owned by private persons for profit. Seems to fit the circumstances pretty well. I think your hatred for Gural clouds your thinking and decision making and makes you sound a little ignorant at times. But that's just my opinion.
too many tracks opening up now$3,036,706.00 vs. Yonkers' $875,891.
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he has to get bigger purses somehow to attract better horses and drivers
championship meet starts soon
,,bigm should improve we hope
Total handle for all 15 harness tracks racing last night, just under 6 million. 14 tracks combined did less than The Big M alone.
Alex .... How would tracks closing help our industry in any way? What do you envision for the industry: farmers meeting at each others home tracks every second Sunday, racing their best against best, $500 to the winner. What the fuck are you thinking?
There is no doubt the current business plan is and will continue to be a failure. What needs to be fixed before you can fix anything at all is, the relationship with the home state. The industry needs to be a generator of taxes and income to gain the political backing it needs.
This not going to happen as a source of gaming taxes or corporate taxes. So, it needs a new lead and I see that lead as an agricultural entity. Redirecting the VLT monies to a greater share to a breeding program will stimulate more economic growth and local spending as well as tax generation than overnight racing.
If we doubled the current 18 million in the NYSS program to 36 million, it would cut overnights by about 10%. All very doable.
Expanding the SS program for older horses is now affordable and potentially profitable for an owner.
Continuing to give NYS taxpayer funded money to overnight purses that are taken out of the state and country is completely foolish short sighted.
Having a superior state breeding and racing program will generate new owners and fans, as they can follow the careers of their favorite horse.
There is over around 100 million dollars of VLT money given to harness racing every year, in NY. It can be better invested.
If you really want to grow your lobbying power, include Polo and other equine disciplines. There is plenty of money to share.
There is plenty of money, it is just not invested with forethought. Investing in a state Agricultural program can also invest in the County Fairgrounds. These places are a centerpiece of the small communities and have not seen a coat of paint in 30 years.
A solid NYS breeding and racing program has a future if invested properly.
Expand the breeding program. Now there's a thought 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2.
2 and 3 year olds get their brains blown out, and then don't race after that, imagine that. The better ones go to the breeding shed to produce what ? More garbage that needs the GAS to perform.
2 things need to happen before anything changes.
A. The OLD GUARD needs to go 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
B. Severe penalties and I mean severe. Can't drive or train one sitting in a jail cell 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
C. Things will never change. So don't worry about A and B 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
TO THE JEWS IN THIS INDUSTRY, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND PEOPLE TELLING THEM HOW GREAT THEY ARE.
2018
Total Handle
$2,185,204.
2017
Total Handle
$2,539,970
DO WE SEE THE START OF A TREND?
So glad we have someone keeping close tabs on this. tmbz1
73cv.2
MAY 12 2017 $2,450,323 10R
MAY 11 2018 $1,622,800 9R
MAYBE FLY BY NITE SOLLY CAN DO THE MATH AND FIGGER THE DROP IN HANDLE
This is very discouraging. All the hard work, time, effort and knowledge that Gooooffffrrrraaaa lllll Inc has put into Pinkys Downs, aka Freehole Horth, aka Cornhole North, aka The Pig M, this has so be a major set back to his futile efforts. How many snake oil salesmen has he had as GM's. Hard to guess what the next move is, but it will be another disaster in the making. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Why does Yonkers feel compelled to announce a million dollar handle??????? They should have been doing that and more, anyway. Even send it to the USTA.
WITH SLOTS, the racing at Yonkers STINKS.
Curious what the handle will be tonight. Shocking only 10 races
HANDLE CONTINUES ITS RACE TO THE BOTTOM
$1,824,070.00
You didn't include the Vermin Handle, shame, shame, shame on you. Please give Jeeefffiiiee his due credit Total Handle: $62,390 Attendance: 658
Which brings the Vermin / Freehold North Daily Double handle for May 12th to a STAGGERING 1,886,460.00
Another day that will go down in INFAMY 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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THE HANDLE FROM A YEAR AGO...
$2,223,336
COMPARE TO 2018
Total Handle
$1,633,824 JUST SHORT, OF A $600,000 DROP IN A YEAR
I SMELL A PURSE CUT COMING
I smell a "racetrack" closing. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
2017 HANDLE ON SAME DAY
$2,310,036
The people who make the morning lines should do a better job, like the people that used to do it.That's a very dolt-like comment.
The people who make the morning lines should do a better job, like the people that used to do it.
HANDLE CONTINUES TO PLUMMET
2018....$1,681,527
2017....$2,197,916
A DECREASE OF OVER 20%
HORSEMEN ARE BOYCOTTING THE BOX
THE TREND CONTINUES
2018 Total Handle $2,102,019
2017 Total Handle $2,349,707
BEGINNING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD
2018..… Total Handle... $1,583,322
2017..... Total Handle $1,744,602
JEWFRIE CANT WAIT TO REPLACE BUGGY BETTORS WITH SPORTS BETTORS, I BET HIS SPORTS BETTING FRANCHISE WILL BE OPEN MORE THAN 2 DAYS A WEEK
Why is it not open now when Monmouth is
Why is it not open now when Monmouth isMonmouth planned ahead and built the sports book ahead of time. Meadowlands is only just starting to build it, might be ready by September.
16W, Yonkers did 491,000. What did the Poconos do on their "big" night?those tracks could care less what they handle...… Only there because the state law says they have to.
Big M handle continues to plummet at the home where only the chosen cheaters can compete. Should be boycotting that dump
Meadowlands handles are head & shoulders above anywhere else in the U.S. They offer interviews, handicapping, and several gimmicks to entertain patrons at the track.
I certainly don't agree with ALL of Gural's business practices. But anyone with half a brain can see how much more The Meadowlands tries to promote the sport than all of it's competitors COMBINED. Had New York contributed some of it's slot money into promotions, Yonkers racing would've been in a much better place.
Total Handle tonight: $2,790,769.00 tmbz1---------last year $1,920,413 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o7LfnK9oMc
The handle should top $4 million tonight! tmbz1
Total Handle $4,083,401.00 tmbz1
Wonder if week to week handle will drop 2 million dollars this week?
Total Handle $4,083,401.00 tmbz1
HANDLE OF LESS THAN 2 MILLION LAST NIGHT. AND THE JEWISH TRACK OWNER IS TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING STEAKS RACING?
PERHAPS HE COULD CHARGE A FEE OF $200-500 EACH TO ENTER AN OVERNITE AND ADD THAT TO THE PURSE, BETTORS LIKE TO BET MORE WHEN HORSE OWNERS ARE PAYING TO RACE
A lot of people might not realise that Gural gets a 5% kickback of driver & trainer earnings from all regulars & he also demands & gets the regular drivers & trainers & owners to put up big dollars to sponsor races. Their is more then one way to take advantage of the pari mutuel license he has been granted.
A lot of people might not realise that Gural gets a 5% kickback of driver & trainer earnings from all regulars & he also demands & gets the regular drivers & trainers & owners to put up big dollars to sponsor races. Their is more then one way to take advantage of the pari mutuel license he has been granted.
You definitely need help, asswipe. Are you related to Sean Hannity or Jeannine Perro? (Whoooppeee gave her a spanking!)
Next on the docket: Jewffrey will begin to complain that the Fan Duel Dungeon isn't generating enough cash and he still needs the $30 mil from AC. I've seen and heard some great whiners in my day (especially that little prick Andrew Cohen after losing a race) but I have to say that Jewffrey takes the cake............o r should I say babka. Until next time, darlings......... ..HEIL HITLER!!
Am I the asswipe?HE DID QUOTE YOU, SO MAYBE
HE DID QUOTE YOU, SO MAYBE
You definitely need help, asswipe. Are you related to Sean Hannity or Jeannine Perro? (Whoooppeee gave her a spanking!)
Next on the docket: Jewffrey will begin to complain that the Fan Duel Dungeon isn't generating enough cash and he still needs the $30 mil from AC. I've seen and heard some great whiners in my day (especially that little prick Andrew Cohen after losing a race) but I have to say that Jewffrey takes the cake............o r should I say babka. Until next time, darlings......... ..HEIL HITLER!!
THE POST TIME DRAG ISNT HELPING.... SPORTS BETTING ISNT HELPING
2018....
Total Handle $1,621,378.
2017....
Total Handle $2,121,250
WHERE IS THE AMATUER RACES WHEN YOU NEED THEM?
Meadowlands outhandled by Mohawk on a Friday.
Where are the Guralnick fans?
We need a.good reason!
Or.at least.a.snappy.re tort!
We deserve that much
Very damp in my basement
Who gives a fuck you loser. Go kiss Gurals Ass and ask him why he let a fucking con-man like Libous and a fucking Mafioso group like Cimenelli, who were just convicted build Tioga. Fucking cheating scum.AND MRS CLINTON WILL WIN EASILY 321 ELECTORAL VOTES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
AND MRS CLINTON WILL WIN EASILY 321 ELECTORAL VOTES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3Hey Fatfuck, that's the past you fucking loser. What the fuck are you still doing on this forum anyway? Heres some advice straight from Pigfuck.....GSAC
WHO THE FUC CARES.
Last Years Hambletonian day Handle was 5.7 million. Will this be an over or an under this year?
Hey Fatfuck, that's the past you fucking loser. What the fuck are you still doing on this forum anyway? Heres some advice straight from Pigfuck.....GSACWelcome back. This forum is now less worthless.
2017....$2,629,872
2018.…. $2,332,354
ALMOST 300 GRAND LESS IN HANDLE THIS YEAR THAN COMPARED TO LAST. DAY IS SETTING UP FOR A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT FOR MEADOWLANDS ACCOUNTANTS
And word on the street is that traffic has been extremely light in the Fan Stool Janitor Closet, too. Camels, corn, casino, Cote, integrity initiative, pick and choose, no DACA for mexican horsemen, new bus station, Fan Stool, etc., etc., etc. Jooffrey has tried 1000 things and NOTHING has worked. He is one stupid cocksucker.
But........let us join hands and pray. Dear God, Fuck Jooffrey Gural. Amen. Until next time, laddies.......... .......HEIL HITLER!!