The state of harness racing

[dougie]

With the news about the impending sale and future of Northfield, I gotta wonder.....how many tracks would make a profit if casinos are 'de-coupled" from the tracks? I know from going to Monticello often, that's it's impossible for the two dozen bettors to keep it viable. Even with the betting off track, how much profit can they actually make?  I know from one of the trainers there that the casino despises being in the racing business, and would love to dissolve their agreement. And now the news that Sullivan County is mulling a 585 million rescue plan for Resorts World Catskills by issuing bonds to purchase "non-gaming assets" of the casino. How long can the "Mighty M" make it?

[Sweet]

With the news about the impending sale and future of Northfield, I gotta wonder.....how many tracks would make a profit if casinos are 'de-coupled" from the tracks? I know from going to Monticello often, that's it's impossible for the two dozen bettors to keep it viable. Even with the betting off track, how much profit can they actually make?  I know from one of the trainers there that the casino despises being in the racing business, and would love to dissolve their agreement. And now the news that Sullivan County is mulling a 585 million rescue plan for Resorts World Catskills by issuing bonds to purchase "non-gaming assets" of the casino. How long can the "Mighty M" make it?

How many tracks?  , c'mon Dougie look at the handles / purses and operating costs, try to keep up bro 

Gamblers getting fucked in 4 major directions without quit -

Race fixing, staging and tampering
Performance drugs, illegal and unknown
CAW
Corrupt, aloof, stupid regulatory.

Who the fuck cares.  This is a hobby for me, a form of therapy, a challenge, and ya never know.

Not affecting my life, my future financial or otherwise one iota i.e. negligible monies invested and no interest, no chance in accelerating that, more so decelerating and diversifying into higher risk and less outlay.

The state / province of RACING is - Horseshit, North America 

[Sweet]

Gamblers, and ---- honest horseman who are too scared, desperate, and overall foolish to not do a complete fucking North American walkout.

[dougie]

How many tracks?  , c'mon Dougie look at the handles / purses and operating costs, try to keep up bro 

Gamblers getting fucked in 4 major directions without quit -

Race fixing, staging and tampering
Performance drugs, illegal and unknown
CAW
Corrupt, aloof, stupid regulatory.

Who the fuck cares.  This is a hobby for me, a form of therapy, a challenge, and ya never know.

Not affecting my life, my future financial or otherwise one iota i.e. negligible monies invested and no interest, no chance in accelerating that, more so decelerating and diversifying into higher risk and less outlay.

The state / province of RACING is - Horseshit, North America 

So very sad. I grew up with Harness racing and seeing it's demise is heartbreaking. When I owned horses at the now defunct Pompano Park, my partners and I lost a ton of money. I know of the purses and the corruption I hear every day by "Plopsters" who know a lot more than I do. Then I look at a guy like Jeff Gural. He's got 3 tracks. I can't understand how Tioga and Vernon stay open. And every year I read/hear those tracks are "done". Yet every year they race. I just don't understand how they survive businesswise.

[Sweet]

So very sad. I grew up with Harness racing and seeing it's demise is heartbreaking. When I owned horses at the now defunct Pompano Park, my partners and I lost a ton of money. I know of the purses and the corruption I hear every day by "Plopsters" who know a lot more than I do. Then I look at a guy like Jeff Gural. He's got 3 tracks. I can't understand how Tioga and Vernon stay open. And every year I read/hear those tracks are "done". Yet every year they race. I just don't understand how they survive businesswise.

Jeff Gural, same as me, a hobby...also like me an accepted sucker.

He's a real estate developer, investor by trade. 

We both see the same end game, his a casino and me a score. 

Keep dreaming   

That's so obvious, that if any one says we're very immature, they got us!