Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....

[Harness racer]

  Its not gonna die dont worry!   I've been hearing that nonsense for 35 years! 

You are quickly becoming one of the dumbest posters here.  And that is quite an accomplishment!   

[Pacer 2]

You are quickly becoming one of the dumbest posters here.  And that is quite an accomplishment!   

[Kenny]

  Its not gonna die dont worry!   I've been hearing that nonsense for 35 years! 

35 years ago people actually cared about harness racing. They don't know.  Go to Pocono on the biggest day of the year. You will find you can count the number of people in between races and still get your bet in..  The Jug has lost a large percentage of attendance. In PA well over 80% of the purses are made up of handouts not handle. It is only a matter of time until the politicians grab that money.

[Kenny]

You are quickly becoming one of the dumbest posters here.  And that is quite an accomplishment!   

The industry is addicted to handouts and think they will exist forever -- until they don't. With the state of the industry right now, there is no reason for it is exist except as a very marginal sport.

[Pacer 2]

35 years ago people actually cared about harness racing. They don't know.  Go to Pocono on the biggest day of the year. You will find you can count the number of people in between races and still get your bet in..  The Jug has lost a large percentage of attendance. In PA well over 80% of the purses are made up of handouts not handle. It is only a matter of time until the politicians grab that money.

   You'll be spewing that same nonsense 35 years from now if you're alive!   

[Kenny]

what a crock of shit this article is, clearly written by a left wing snowflake

Pennsylvania has the opportunity to make college more affordable to its young people who will become the next generation of teachers and nurses without raising taxes,” said Spicka. “Rather than padding the pockets of wealthy breeders and horse owners, lawmakers can relieve the stress of college payments on parents and students and support our economy.”
             really ?? padding the pockets?? and what about all the people who will lose their jobs, Vets, blacksmiths, truckers, equipment , feed suppliers, grooms, growers, i
             guess they dont count, maybe these kids getting a free education can figure out a way to find them employment or how the government should pay them when
            they are all on welfare

Racing also takes a large toll on the horses who are injured or die on the track. Over the last ten years more than 1400 horses have died at Pennsylvania’s racetracks.
      wow  just throwing out numbers, what % is this of all the horses that have raced over the last 10 years

i understand each state is different, ohio and kentuucky in particiulair seem to endorse and embrace horse racing
      people die in plane crashes, music festivals , car crashes, guess we should stop all of those as well

look we all know the industry is far from perfect but it does serve a purpose and there is an economic multiplier effect to having it around

dirty lying politicians now trying to be hollier than thou.. PLEASE!!!

Kentucky is going all in on racing and with duel eligibility, they will steal more and more of the breeding business. The rest of the states including Ohio are going to see that money and realize they can by a lot more votes by building roads, bridges, and schools. The general public could care less about racing and they elect the politicians not a sport with no customers.

[wisha roder]

Enough with the harness racing is dying. If it goes so will the throwawaybreds.  Both forms of racing have issues. Stop the bitching

[Kenny]

   You'll be spewing that same nonsense 35 years from now if you're alive!   

Again you offer no support for your statement -- NONE.

1) states have already made attempts to use the handouts for other purposes
2) harness racing has very little fan/customer support
3) Most of the general public barely know what harness racing is


It is people like you who will actually make the end come quicker. Until the industry realizes they are circling the drain, it will not evolve into something people will support.

[wisha roder]

Well, you’re going to die someday too, so do you just give up now or do you go about your life?

[Kenny]

Enough with the harness racing is dying. If it goes so will the throwawaybreds.  Both forms of racing have issues. Stop the bitching

This is not "bitching", this is about motivating the industry wake up realize the industry is in serious trouble depending on politicians for its very existence.  What happens when the states need money to make up for the Trump cuts? If there was a referendum in many states about using the racing money for roads, bridges, and schools, do you think racing would win? Trill me you are not that naive.

[Ignorance Is Bliss]

Again you offer no support for your statement -- NONE.

1) states have already made attempts to use the handouts for other purposes
2) harness racing has very little fan/customer support
3) Most of the general public barely know what harness racing is


It is people like you who will actually make the end come quicker. Until the industry realizes they are circling the drain, it will not evolve into something people will support.

Facts. 84% of purse accounts are subsidized in NYS. It averages around 80% everywhere else where subsidies exist. It's fucking embarrassing and the jackwagons in the game are proud of it. Literally living off state welfare because "this is all we know".  Which is true since about the same percentage of people in the game have no other skills to survive other than using a fork, rake and wheelbarrow. 

[Kenny]

Well, you’re going to die someday too, so do you just give up now or do you go about your life?

So you are one of the people who thinks the industry should take the handouts and not do anything to becoming self-supporting?

[Kenny]

Facts. 84% of purse accounts are subsidized in NYS. It averages around 80% everywhere else where subsidies exist. It's fucking embarrassing and the jackwagons in the game are proud of it. Literally living off state welfare because "this is all we know".  Which is true since about the same percentage of people in the game have no other skills to survive other than using a fork, rake and wheelbarrow. 

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It is well over 80% in PA. That means a $10,000 purse would become less than $1,800. The Jug attendance is down over 20% since I started going and that counts all the people at the fair. The Sun Stakes at Pocono has a handful of people.

[wisha roder]

No shortage of welfare in this country. Another democrat creation. Dependency.

[Kenny]

No shortage of welfare in this country. Another democrat creation. Dependency.

Trump is making major cuts.  That will hit the states hard. Where do you think the politicians will find the money.  Since you brought up dying, it appears you are already dead. You must not have much interest in harness racing.