What percentage of harness races are corrupted?

[bestbetter]

I have zero knowledge of behind the scenes. Just curious what you vets think...

[Ignorance Is Bliss]

I have zero knowledge of behind the scenes. Just curious what you vets think...

You can bet that at least one horse in each race had something done to them which breaks the rules. Thus ALL the races are corrupted.

[sledge hammer]

Back in the "golden era" of harness racing with packed stands and millions bet I can only imagine how much money the drivers and trainers extracted from those pools on a nightly basis...

[gh2009]

Back in the "golden era" of harness racing with packed stands and millions bet I can only imagine how much money the drivers and trainers extracted from those pools on a nightly basis...

I used to know a few trainers and 1 or 2 drivers who bet and liked their horses almost all the time, but most of the time they bet they lost, so just because you're betting doesn't mean you're winning or extracting money from the pools.

[remington]

There were millions taken out by drivers.

[gh2009]

There were also millions lost. I know for a fact Donald Dancer used to lose big money betting at Brandywine Raceway because he bet too much on his horse and didn't win often enough.

[Yonkers1A]

You can bet that at least one horse in each race had something done to them which breaks the rules. Thus ALL the races are corrupted.

100%

[Calhoun]

93%

[The Answer]

Very little. There’s NO money in the pools to bet more can be made by racing to win! That’s one of the few positives of low handles.

[gh2009]

100%

Do you think they're even cheating in the big stake races with detention barns?

[Dostoevsky]

100%. Every single race, at every single track, has multiple horses that are not racing on hay and oats. Some have the cutting-edge designer stuff, some are just tubing, some just play fast and loose trying to sneak a little Banamine or other therapeutic by.
Less than 5% are probably racing totally clean. And I'm being charitable.

[Mr.Turnpike]

  Corrupt from top to bottom

[pocketrocketwinner]

All the races where horses are driven to stay in the same class (not win) are corrupt (a lot)

All the races where horses are driven to intentionally not finish in the top 5 (to drop a class next week) are corrupt (more than a lot)

[hoosierboy]

85-90%

[remington]

The smart drivers made their money and held on to it and retired early. The degenerates pissed their money away and didn.t hold on to it.